Since the Bulls are now significant, and last season is over...figured it was time for a new thread.
Interesting draft prospects at 16 and 26.
K.C. reporting (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-23-bulls-draft-chicago-jun23,0,3324174.story), among other things, that
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The Bulls have held trade talks with several teams about packaging picks Nos. 16 and 26 into one higher selection, with two league sources insisting the target is Duke shooting guard Gerald Henderson.
I assume you only do this if Gordon is a lock not to come back.
Still think that with Deng coming back there are too many odd-fitting pieces here to not make a trade, but that was the thinking going into last season with 14 guards, and that worked out...decently.
The Bulls still feel like Rose and a bunch of questionable guys, though better than a year ago.
Pen, you've got about two more days to hop on the Okie City bandwagon with me before all the seats are taken. It's Ricky Rubio or STEPH CURRY and either's fine with me. Sam Presti's seen Arizona State play. He knows about Harden and he's not really fooled by workout numbers. Presti's gonna take the guy ya can't not watch and then everyone's gonna lovin' this team.
You have 2 days.
Quote from: JD on June 23, 2009, 08:37:40 PM
Pen, you've got about two more days to hop on the Okie City bandwagon with me before all the seats are taken. It's Ricky Rubio or STEPH CURRY and either's fine with me. Sam Presti's seen Arizona State play. He knows about Harden and he's not really fooled by workout numbers. Presti's gonna take the guy ya can't not watch and then everyone's gonna lovin' this team.
You have 2 days.
I'm just gonna wait a bit and hop on the bandwagon of whatever team JD switches to in the middle of next season.
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Quote from: JD on June 23, 2009, 08:37:40 PM
Pen, you've got about two more days to hop on the Okie City bandwagon with me before all the seats are taken. It's Ricky Rubio or STEPH CURRY and either's fine with me. Sam Presti's seen Arizona State play. He knows about Harden and he's not really fooled by workout numbers. Presti's gonna take the guy ya can't not watch and then everyone's gonna lovin' this team.
You have 2 days.
I'm just gonna wait a bit and hop on the bandwagon of whatever team JD switches to in the middle of next season.
I have a growing suspicion that JD no longer roots for the Cubs.
Boo!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4282279
Why do the Wiz need Foye? That's a pretty big trade, though. The Timberwolves have about 14 first round picks.
The Twolves are going to package their 4 1st round picks and draft Coach K.
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Quote from: JD on June 23, 2009, 08:37:40 PM
Pen, you've got about two more days to hop on the Okie City bandwagon with me before all the seats are taken. It's Ricky Rubio or STEPH CURRY and either's fine with me. Sam Presti's seen Arizona State play. He knows about Harden and he's not really fooled by workout numbers. Presti's gonna take the guy ya can't not watch and then everyone's gonna lovin' this team.
You have 2 days.
I'm just gonna wait a bit and hop on the bandwagon of whatever team JD switches to in the middle of next season.
If they take Harden, then I'll be on the lookout. That's for sure. I do not positive guys that play slow in college. And he's left-handed. I have no real allegiances to any NBA team because it only interests me about 2 months out of the year. If Curry goes to the Knicks to join forces with D'Antoni, then you might not have to wait until midseason to find out which team's bandwagon we'll be cuddling on come playoff time.
Quote from: MAD on June 24, 2009, 12:19:30 AM
I have a growing suspicion that JD no longer roots for the Cubs.
Boo!
No, I do. The cubs are like herpes. I'll never be able to fully get them out of my system. However, I haven't been able to watch much baseball this year, so it's hard to talk about them. If I made it through the Dusty/Neifi/Burnitz years, then not a thing's gonna chase me off.
Well, now I don't know what team to follow.
Quote from: JD on June 26, 2009, 05:49:49 PM
Well, now I don't know what team to follow.
I would stick with the Thundernuggets.
Even though Harden was a questionable pick, there's still a nice nucleus there with Green, Durant and Westbrook.
Seems like Presti knows what he's doing, maybe he truly feels that Westbrook is the guy they want with the ball and didn't want to let a 17 year old Spanish kid take over the offense.
Not sure he's right and I don't think Harden's going to be a great pro.....never mind, it was a shitty pick.
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Well, now I don't know what team to follow.
I would stick with the Thundernuggets.
Even though Harden was a questionable pick, there's still a nice nucleus there with Green, Durant and Westbrook.
Seems like Presti knows what he's doing, maybe he truly feels that Westbrook is the guy they want with the ball and didn't want to let a 17 year old Spanish kid take over the offense.
Not sure he's right and I don't think Harden's going to be a great pro.....never mind, it was a shitty pick.
Rubio and his dad are already trying to call the shots. The ThunderNuggets did ok.
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Well, now I don't know what team to follow.
I would stick with the Thundernuggets.
Even though Harden was a questionable pick, there's still a nice nucleus there with Green, Durant and Westbrook.
Seems like Presti knows what he's doing, maybe he truly feels that Westbrook is the guy they want with the ball and didn't want to let a 17 year old Spanish kid take over the offense.
Not sure he's right and I don't think Harden's going to be a great pro.....never mind, it was a shitty pick.
Rubio and his dad are already trying to call the shots. The ThunderNuggets did ok.
Even if not Rubio, seems like Curry over Harden would make sense.
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Well, now I don't know what team to follow.
I would stick with the Thundernuggets.
Even though Harden was a questionable pick, there's still a nice nucleus there with Green, Durant and Westbrook.
Seems like Presti knows what he's doing, maybe he truly feels that Westbrook is the guy they want with the ball and didn't want to let a 17 year old Spanish kid take over the offense.
Not sure he's right and I don't think Harden's going to be a great pro.....never mind, it was a shitty pick.
Rubio and his dad are already trying to call the shots. The ThunderNuggets did ok.
Even if not Rubio, seems like Curry over Harden would make sense.
CURRY and Rubio are special. Harden is, most definitely, not. Some players have a little extra something in their step. A hop. It makes everyone watching the game focus on them. That's Rubio. That's CURRY. Okie City had a chance to take either of 'em and they took freaking Morris Peterson. I want the star. I want the exciting guy. Basketball's supposed to be entertaining. Entertain me. I'm selfish like that. AND, to top it off, Rubio and CURRY go to 2 turr-ble teams. Minnesota drafted point guards back to back. Are you kidding me? They can't play together. I rarely agree with Dickie V anymore(probably because I generally ignore what he says), but he was exactly right when he said that was the sort of thing that gets coaches fired. Luckily, Minnesota doesn't have a coach. And don't take that as a slight against Flynn. I like him. Then, CURRY ends up in Golden State. Will I ever see him play now? No. Plus, he'll be in the same backcourt as Monta Ellis and beside Stephen Jackson. I don't care that Nelson's there. Nelson's old and gettin' senile. Seriously, this draft couldn't have turned out worse. Blake Griffin's knee(one of 'em) will go out sometime in the third preseason game. Rubio's gonna stay in Spain(smart move...stay away from that crazy Minnesota dude). And CURRY's gonna be quickly labeled a bust because he's in a sorry situation. The fact that James Harden played in a college system that was designed to get him points doesn't make me feel better. Julius Hodge averaged almost 20 under Sendek...I don't want him on the team either. It's all just very disappointing.
Quote from: JD on June 26, 2009, 06:57:45 PM
And CURRY's gonna be quickly labeled a bust because he's in a sorry situation.
Not sure about that. Golden State may not win a lot, but if Curry stays there, he very well could average 20 a game as a rookie. No one would call him a bust then.
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Quote from: JD on June 26, 2009, 06:57:45 PM
And CURRY's gonna be quickly labeled a bust because he's in a sorry situation.
Not sure about that. Golden State may not win a lot, but if Curry stays there, he very well could average 20 a game as a rookie. No one would call him a bust then.
Yeah, but I'm saying that's gonna be hard playing with Monta Ellis and Stephen Jackson. They're goofballs and I don't want STEPH CURRY around those types of persons. Plus, it just seems like Nelson's been fickle with young players' playing time the last few years. He's old. I think he forgets who's on his team. I could be wrong about the playing time. I'm not gonna do too much research on it(that means there won't be ANY research into it). And don't correct me if I am wrong, though. Save yourself some time, Eli. You can't change my mind.
If Nelson lets him go like he did with Dirk, then it's all gonna be peaches and gravy. Except for the fact that I won't ever get to see him play.
Just in case anyone was wondering, Tyrus would like you to know that he's the starting Power Forward for the Bulls.
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The draft! I keep getting the question "what's up with the two forwards?" Let me say this, I'm the starting power forward and I don't plan on playing anywhere but Chicago. Some may say I'm arrogant, or full of myself, some may even say I'm crazy! I'm just giving yall the truth.
In other news, Tyrus Thomas has a blog. (http://www.mouthpiecesports.com/blog/2009/06/29/tell-em-tyrus-im-the-starting-power-forward/)
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Just in case anyone was wondering, Tyrus would like you to know that he's the starting Power Forward for the Bulls.
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The draft! I keep getting the question "what's up with the two forwards?" Let me say this, I'm the starting power forward and I don't plan on playing anywhere but Chicago. Some may say I'm arrogant, or full of myself, some may even say I'm crazy! I'm just giving yall the truth.
In other news, Tyrus Thomas has a blog. (http://www.mouthpiecesports.com/blog/2009/06/29/tell-em-tyrus-im-the-starting-power-forward/)
His literacy is more of a shock than anything, here.
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Just in case anyone was wondering, Tyrus would like you to know that he's the starting Power Forward for the Bulls.
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The draft! I keep getting the question “what’s up with the two forwards?” Let me say this, I’m the starting power forward and I don’t plan on playing anywhere but Chicago. Some may say I’m arrogant, or full of myself, some may even say I’m crazy! I’m just giving yall the truth.
In other news, Tyrus Thomas has a blog. (http://www.mouthpiecesports.com/blog/2009/06/29/tell-em-tyrus-im-the-starting-power-forward/)
His literacy is more of a shock than anything, here.
I would imagine he updates like seven times one day and then only once the following day.
Then Vinny Del Negro forgets to read it in during the playoffs.
To the three other people who read this thread: do you agree with the Bulls that $20 mildo is too much for Amare (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=303249)? Or is this just another excuse for not paying the luxury tax? (let's just assume McGraw isn't talking out of his ass)
QuoteThat raises another question: If the Suns have discussed moving Stoudemire to Golden State or Houston, why aren't the Bulls getting involved? They probably would if Stoudemire agreed to a contract extension worth $14-15 million per season. The Bulls don't want to make the trade and then pony up $20 million per when Stoudemire becomes a free agent next year. They'd feel better paying Bosh that kind of money.
Quote from: RV on June 29, 2009, 02:29:24 PM
To the three other people who read this thread: do you agree with the Bulls that $20 mildo is too much for Amare (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=303249)? Or is this just another excuse for not paying the luxury tax? (let's just assume McGraw isn't talking out of his ass)
QuoteThat raises another question: If the Suns have discussed moving Stoudemire to Golden State or Houston, why aren't the Bulls getting involved? They probably would if Stoudemire agreed to a contract extension worth $14-15 million per season. The Bulls don't want to make the trade and then pony up $20 million per when Stoudemire becomes a free agent next year. They'd feel better paying Bosh that kind of money.
I'd say microfracture surgery has a lot to do with it.
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Quote from: RV on June 29, 2009, 02:29:24 PM
To the three other people who read this thread: do you agree with the Bulls that $20 mildo is too much for Amare (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=303249)? Or is this just another excuse for not paying the luxury tax? (let's just assume McGraw isn't talking out of his ass)
QuoteThat raises another question: If the Suns have discussed moving Stoudemire to Golden State or Houston, why aren't the Bulls getting involved? They probably would if Stoudemire agreed to a contract extension worth $14-15 million per season. The Bulls don't want to make the trade and then pony up $20 million per when Stoudemire becomes a free agent next year. They'd feel better paying Bosh that kind of money.
I'd say microfracture surgery has a lot to do with it.
The microfracture surgery he had 3 years ago and returned from to play 82 games?
I'm going to go on record as saying, all things being equal as far as contracts and so forth, I would rather have Amare on the Bulls than Bosh. And I really like Chris Bosh.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 29, 2009, 02:48:58 PM
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Quote from: RV on June 29, 2009, 02:29:24 PM
To the three other people who read this thread: do you agree with the Bulls that $20 mildo is too much for Amare (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=303249)? Or is this just another excuse for not paying the luxury tax? (let's just assume McGraw isn't talking out of his ass)
QuoteThat raises another question: If the Suns have discussed moving Stoudemire to Golden State or Houston, why aren't the Bulls getting involved? They probably would if Stoudemire agreed to a contract extension worth $14-15 million per season. The Bulls don't want to make the trade and then pony up $20 million per when Stoudemire becomes a free agent next year. They'd feel better paying Bosh that kind of money.
I'd say microfracture surgery has a lot to do with it.
The microfracture surgery he had 3 years ago and returned from to play 82 games?
Well his minutes were up and his production was down but he's still pretty damn good.
Quote from: Ivy6 on June 29, 2009, 02:55:10 PM
I'm going to go on record as saying, all things being equal as far as contracts and so forth, I would rather have Amare on the Bulls than Bosh. And I really like Chris Bosh.
I agree, Amare's the better player. His 2004 and 2007 seasons are both better than anything Bosh has put up. It's just a question of whether his knee holds up - his very good 2007 was post-microfracture, so that's encouraging. And even though Bosh is about a year and a half younger, he's actually logged more minutes. Some statfaggotry - Bosh looks to be the better passer, but Amare is better pretty much everywhere else.
Amare (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/stoudam01.html)16,198 minutes
22.6 PER
.542 Effective FG %
14.8 Total Rebound %
6.7 Assist %
Bosh (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html)16,710 minutes
20.7 PER
.490 Effective FG %
14.5 Total Rebound %
10.3 Assist %
Quote from: RV on June 29, 2009, 03:51:59 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on June 29, 2009, 02:55:10 PM
I'm going to go on record as saying, all things being equal as far as contracts and so forth, I would rather have Amare on the Bulls than Bosh. And I really like Chris Bosh.
I agree, Amare's the better player. His 2004 and 2007 seasons are both better than anything Bosh has put up. It's just a question of whether his knee holds up - his very good 2007 was post-microfracture, so that's encouraging. And even though Bosh is about a year and a half younger, he's actually logged more minutes. Some statfaggotry - Bosh looks to be the better passer, but Amare is better pretty much everywhere else.
Amare (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/stoudam01.html)
16,198 minutes
22.6 PER
.542 Effective FG %
14.8 Total Rebound %
6.7 Assist %
Bosh (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html)
16,710 minutes
20.7 PER
.490 Effective FG %
14.5 Total Rebound %
10.3 Assist %
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RV "Well, it appears I was wrong."
For posterity.
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I'm going to go on record as saying, all things being equal as far as contracts and so forth, I would rather have Amare on the Bulls than Bosh. And I really like Chris Bosh.
I agree, Amare's the better player. His 2004 and 2007 seasons are both better than anything Bosh has put up. It's just a question of whether his knee holds up - his very good 2007 was post-microfracture, so that's encouraging. And even though Bosh is about a year and a half younger, he's actually logged more minutes. Some statfaggotry - Bosh looks to be the better passer, but Amare is better pretty much everywhere else.
Amare (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/stoudam01.html)
16,198 minutes
22.6 PER
.542 Effective FG %
14.8 Total Rebound %
6.7 Assist %
Bosh (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html)
16,710 minutes
20.7 PER
.490 Effective FG %
14.5 Total Rebound %
10.3 Assist %
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RV "Well, it appears I was wrong."
For posterity.
DPD.
For the record, I am totally for Amare over Bosh.
For all the statfaggy reasons.
Those aside, my Dustygut tells me that Amare is not a guy you want to spend a ton of money on.
He's pretty "me-first", and just doesn't feel like the max-deal kind of guy.
However, Rose seems like someone who you can build around without worrying about a ton of ego.
Translation: I have no idea. I like Amare a lot, he's immensely talented and competitive. He's also seems a bit delusional about his own talent and extremely self-absorbed.
I remember this from a D-Backs game last year.
As if anyone was confused as to who the 6'11 black dude in Phoenix was.
(http://www.totalprosports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/1563288886_a1b2713faf_o.jpg)
Part of me was concerned that his numbers were Nash/D'Antoni inflated but then I remembered that we have a pretty nice PG in town. Furthermore, though he's a dipshit, Vinny's background is in Phoenix and that type of system.
I can't really fault the Bulls for feeling that Bosh represents a more stable and a more likely guarantee on their investment. I can fault them, however, if they miss out on both by passing* on the more talented of the two.
*I say this knowing full well there's been no indication that Amare to the Bulls is even in the works, let alone realistic.
Amare's going to my Warriors to play with STEPH CURRY.
Quote from: JD on June 29, 2009, 06:07:13 PM
Amare's going to my Warriors to play with STEPH CURRY.
You're awesome.
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Amare's going to my Warriors to play with STEPH CURRY.
You're awesome.
Thanks. I did that special for the 4 people that read this thread.
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Amare's going to my Warriors to play with STEPH CURRY.
You're awesome.
Thanks. I did that special for the 4 people that read this thread.
Pen, RV, TDubbs, Air, Me, you.... That's six by my count
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Amare's going to my Warriors to play with STEPH CURRY.
You're awesome.
Thanks. I did that special for the 4 people that read this thread.
Pen, RV, TDubbs, Air, Me, you.... That's six by my count
Slaky and I have more NBA posts than the rest of you dopes ALL ADDED TOGETHER.
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Amare's going to my Warriors to play with STEPH CURRY.
You're awesome.
Thanks. I did that special for the 4 people that read this thread.
Pen, RV, TDubbs, Air, Me, you.... That's six by my count
Slaky and I have more NBA posts than the rest of you dopes ALL ADDED TOGETHER.
Make that 8
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Amare's going to my Warriors to play with STEPH CURRY.
You're awesome.
Thanks. I did that special for the 4 people that read this thread.
Pen, RV, TDubbs, Air, Me, you.... That's six by my count
Slaky and I have more NBA posts than the rest of you dopes ALL ADDED TOGETHER.
All part of our SNEAK ATTACK! And our quality over quantity mantra.
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Amare's going to my Warriors to play with STEPH CURRY.
You're awesome.
Thanks. I did that special for the 4 people that read this thread.
Pen, RV, TDubbs, Air, Me, you.... That's six by my count
Slaky and I have more NBA posts than the rest of you dopes ALL ADDED TOGETHER.
All part of our SNEAK ATTACK! And our quality over quantity mantra.
There's quality?
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There's quality?
I know exactly where it isn't.
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Amare's going to my Warriors to play with STEPH CURRY.
You're awesome.
Thanks. I did that special for the 4 people that read this thread.
Just because we don't post don't mean we don't read, sucka!
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Amare's going to my Warriors to play with STEPH CURRY.
You're awesome.
Thanks. I did that special for the 4 people that read this thread.
Just because we don't post don't mean we don't read, sucka!
Seconded. You guys almost make me interested in watching the Bulls. I actually mean that as a compliment.
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Amare's going to my Warriors to play with STEPH CURRY.
You're awesome.
Thanks. I did that special for the 4 people that read this thread.
Just because we don't post don't mean we don't read, sucka!
Seconded. You guys almost make me interested in watching the Bulls. I actually mean that as a compliment.
Our My constant complaining about the make-up of the roster makes you want to watch?
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Amare's going to my Warriors to play with STEPH CURRY.
You're awesome.
Thanks. I did that special for the 4 people that read this thread.
Just because we don't post don't mean we don't read, sucka!
Seconded. You guys almost make me interested in watching the Bulls. I actually mean that as a compliment.
Our My constant complaining about the make-up of the roster makes you want to watch?
No, it almost makes me interested in watching. I watch the Cubs, and I bitch about the roster at least once a day.
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Amare's going to my Warriors to play with STEPH CURRY.
You're awesome.
Thanks. I did that special for the 4 people that read this thread.
Just because we don't post don't mean we don't read, sucka!
Seconded. You guys almost make me interested in watching the Bulls. I actually mean that as a compliment.
Forget about the Bulls and just follow my lead, BK. I don't watch crappy basketball and I never get attached to teams. If some basketball team wanted me to follow them blindly and obsess over them, then they should have been the cubs.
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Amare's going to my Warriors to play with STEPH CURRY.
You're awesome.
Thanks. I did that special for the 4 people that read this thread.
Just because we don't post don't mean we don't read, sucka!
Seconded. You guys almost make me interested in watching the Bulls. I actually mean that as a compliment.
Forget about the Bulls and just follow my lead, BK. I don't watch crappy basketball and I never get attached to teams. If some basketball team wanted me to follow them blindly and obsess over them, then they should have been the cubs.
Kerm's got his hands full with Notre Dame football. Give him some space.
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Amare's going to my Warriors to play with STEPH CURRY.
You're awesome.
Thanks. I did that special for the 4 people that read this thread.
Just because we don't post don't mean we don't read, sucka!
Seconded. You guys almost make me interested in watching the Bulls. I actually mean that as a compliment.
Forget about the Bulls and just follow my lead, BK. I don't watch crappy basketball and I never get attached to teams. If some basketball team wanted me to follow them blindly and obsess over them, then they should have been the cubs.
KermFat Charlie's got his hands full of ice cream sammiches and pop tartswith Notre Dame football. Give him some spacemoist towlettes so he can clean the dirt off of that package of hot dogs he calls a neck.
I think you were setting me up, but I'm a little out of practice on the Fat Charlie jokes. I plan on attacking them with a passion this year, though. They're primed to be WAY overrated. Anyway, I know the "strike/bold" was a little forced, but I'm really gonna try hard to make the next one better.
Quote from: JD on June 30, 2009, 09:38:57 PM
Quote from: CT III on June 30, 2009, 07:47:33 PM
Quote from: JD on June 30, 2009, 06:53:55 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 30, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Quote from: MAD on June 30, 2009, 09:56:49 AM
Quote from: JD on June 29, 2009, 06:53:06 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 29, 2009, 06:10:15 PM
Quote from: JD on June 29, 2009, 06:07:13 PM
Amare's going to my Warriors to play with STEPH CURRY.
You're awesome.
Thanks. I did that special for the 4 people that read this thread.
Just because we don't post don't mean we don't read, sucka!
Seconded. You guys almost make me interested in watching the Bulls. I actually mean that as a compliment.
Forget about the Bulls and just follow my lead, BK. I don't watch crappy basketball and I never get attached to teams. If some basketball team wanted me to follow them blindly and obsess over them, then they should have been the cubs.
KermFat Charlie's got his hands full of ice cream sammiches and pop tartswith Notre Dame football. Give him some spacemoist towlettes so he can clean the dirt off of that package of hot dogs he calls a neck.
I think you were setting me up, but I'm a little out of practice on the Fat Charlie jokes. I plan on attacking them with a passion this year, though. They're primed to be WAY overrated. Anyway, I know the "strike/bold" was a little forced, but I'm really gonna try hard to make the next one better.
I say it looks like JD has finally gotten his fastball back.
Quote from: MAD on June 30, 2009, 09:41:45 PM
Quote from: JD on June 30, 2009, 09:38:57 PM
Quote from: CT III on June 30, 2009, 07:47:33 PM
Quote from: JD on June 30, 2009, 06:53:55 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 30, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Quote from: MAD on June 30, 2009, 09:56:49 AM
Quote from: JD on June 29, 2009, 06:53:06 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 29, 2009, 06:10:15 PM
Quote from: JD on June 29, 2009, 06:07:13 PM
Amare's going to my Warriors to play with STEPH CURRY.
You're awesome.
Thanks. I did that special for the 4 people that read this thread.
Just because we don't post don't mean we don't read, sucka!
Seconded. You guys almost make me interested in watching the Bulls. I actually mean that as a compliment.
Forget about the Bulls and just follow my lead, BK. I don't watch crappy basketball and I never get attached to teams. If some basketball team wanted me to follow them blindly and obsess over them, then they should have been the cubs.
KermFat Charlie's got his hands full of ice cream sammiches and pop tartswith Notre Dame football. Give him some spacemoist towlettes so he can clean the dirt off of that package of hot dogs he calls a neck.
I think you were setting me up, but I'm a little out of practice on the Fat Charlie jokes. I plan on attacking them with a passion this year, though. They're primed to be WAY overrated. Anyway, I know the "strike/bold" was a little forced, but I'm really gonna try hard to make the next one better.
I say it looks like JD has finally gotten his fastball back.
I haven't been this excited about college football season in years.
Quote from: JD on June 30, 2009, 09:38:57 PM
Quote from: CT III on June 30, 2009, 07:47:33 PM
Quote from: JD on June 30, 2009, 06:53:55 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 30, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Quote from: MAD on June 30, 2009, 09:56:49 AM
Quote from: JD on June 29, 2009, 06:53:06 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 29, 2009, 06:10:15 PM
Quote from: JD on June 29, 2009, 06:07:13 PM
Amare's going to my Warriors to play with STEPH CURRY.
You're awesome.
Thanks. I did that special for the 4 people that read this thread.
Just because we don't post don't mean we don't read, sucka!
Seconded. You guys almost make me interested in watching the Bulls. I actually mean that as a compliment.
Forget about the Bulls and just follow my lead, BK. I don't watch crappy basketball and I never get attached to teams. If some basketball team wanted me to follow them blindly and obsess over them, then they should have been the cubs.
KermFat Charlie's got his hands full of ice cream sammiches and pop tartswith Notre Dame football. Give him some spacemoist towlettes so he can clean the dirt off of that package of hot dogs he calls a neck.
I think you were setting me up, but I'm a little out of practice on the Fat Charlie jokes. I plan on attacking them with a passion this year, though. They're primed to be WAY overrated. Anyway, I know the "strike/bold" was a little forced, but I'm really gonna try hard to make the next one better.
Any kind of jokes about Coach Frontbutt are good with me.
This sounds bad:
QuoteChicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon(notes) and Milwaukee Bucks forward Charlie Villanueva(notes) flew to Detroit on Wednesday morning for a mid-day meeting with team president Joe Dumars and indications are both are moving rapidly toward deals with the Detroit Pistons, league and sources close to the two players told Yahoo! Sports.
Hope everyone enjoys the 90-ppg, 33-win Bulls next season.
Quote from: Eli on July 01, 2009, 11:14:50 AM
This sounds bad:
QuoteChicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon(notes) and Milwaukee Bucks forward Charlie Villanueva(notes) flew to Detroit on Wednesday morning for a mid-day meeting with team president Joe Dumars and indications are both are moving rapidly toward deals with the Detroit Pistons, league and sources close to the two players told Yahoo! Sports.
Hope everyone enjoys the 90-ppg, 33-win Bulls next season.
I'm fine with losing Gordon if they end up with Amare, Bosh, or Wade. I know it
shouldn't be an either/or proposition, but I'd rather Reinsdorf's cheap ass go over the luxury tax for an actual top 10 NBA talent.
If they lose Gordon AND don't acquire an established star by this time next year, who's up for flipping Huey's Malibu over on top of Reinsdorf, Paxson and Gar?
Quote from: RV on July 01, 2009, 11:21:25 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 01, 2009, 11:14:50 AM
This sounds bad:
QuoteChicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon(notes) and Milwaukee Bucks forward Charlie Villanueva(notes) flew to Detroit on Wednesday morning for a mid-day meeting with team president Joe Dumars and indications are both are moving rapidly toward deals with the Detroit Pistons, league and sources close to the two players told Yahoo! Sports.
Hope everyone enjoys the 90-ppg, 33-win Bulls next season.
I'm fine with losing Gordon if they end up with Amare, Bosh, or Wade. I know it shouldn't be an either/or proposition, but I'd rather Reinsdorf's cheap ass go over the luxury tax for an actual top 10 NBA talent.
If they lose Gordon AND don't acquire an established star by this time next year, who's up for flipping Huey's Malibu over on top of Reinsdorf, Paxson and Gar?
Huey will be thrilled if the Bulls don't re-sign Gordon. Hooray for that.
Quote from: Slak on July 01, 2009, 11:52:50 AM
Quote from: RV on July 01, 2009, 11:21:25 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 01, 2009, 11:14:50 AM
This sounds bad:
QuoteChicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon(notes) and Milwaukee Bucks forward Charlie Villanueva(notes) flew to Detroit on Wednesday morning for a mid-day meeting with team president Joe Dumars and indications are both are moving rapidly toward deals with the Detroit Pistons, league and sources close to the two players told Yahoo! Sports.
Hope everyone enjoys the 90-ppg, 33-win Bulls next season.
I'm fine with losing Gordon if they end up with Amare, Bosh, or Wade. I know it shouldn't be an either/or proposition, but I'd rather Reinsdorf's cheap ass go over the luxury tax for an actual top 10 NBA talent.
If they lose Gordon AND don't acquire an established star by this time next year, who's up for flipping Huey's Malibu over on top of Reinsdorf, Paxson and Gar?
Huey will be thrilled if the Bulls don't re-sign Gordon. Hooray for that.
I'm kind of okay with them not re-signing Gordon.
I mean, you can just slot Wayne Ellington into the SG role.
Wait, what?
Quote from: Slak on July 01, 2009, 11:52:50 AM
Quote from: RV on July 01, 2009, 11:21:25 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 01, 2009, 11:14:50 AM
This sounds bad:
QuoteChicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon(notes) and Milwaukee Bucks forward Charlie Villanueva(notes) flew to Detroit on Wednesday morning for a mid-day meeting with team president Joe Dumars and indications are both are moving rapidly toward deals with the Detroit Pistons, league and sources close to the two players told Yahoo! Sports.
Hope everyone enjoys the 90-ppg, 33-win Bulls next season.
I'm fine with losing Gordon if they end up with Amare, Bosh, or Wade. I know it shouldn't be an either/or proposition, but I'd rather Reinsdorf's cheap ass go over the luxury tax for an actual top 10 NBA talent.
If they lose Gordon AND don't acquire an established star by this time next year, who's up for flipping Huey's Malibu over on top of Reinsdorf, Paxson and Gar?
Huey will be thrilled if the Bulls don't re-sign Gordon. Hooray for that.
I'm sorry. You must be mistaking me for a guy who gives a shit.
Quote from: MAD on July 01, 2009, 12:12:53 PM
Quote from: Slak on July 01, 2009, 11:52:50 AM
Quote from: RV on July 01, 2009, 11:21:25 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 01, 2009, 11:14:50 AM
This sounds bad:
QuoteChicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon(notes) and Milwaukee Bucks forward Charlie Villanueva(notes) flew to Detroit on Wednesday morning for a mid-day meeting with team president Joe Dumars and indications are both are moving rapidly toward deals with the Detroit Pistons, league and sources close to the two players told Yahoo! Sports.
Hope everyone enjoys the 90-ppg, 33-win Bulls next season.
I'm fine with losing Gordon if they end up with Amare, Bosh, or Wade. I know it shouldn't be an either/or proposition, but I'd rather Reinsdorf's cheap ass go over the luxury tax for an actual top 10 NBA talent.
If they lose Gordon AND don't acquire an established star by this time next year, who's up for flipping Huey's Malibu over on top of Reinsdorf, Paxson and Gar?
Huey will be thrilled if the Bulls don't re-sign Gordon. Hooray for that.
I'm sorry. You must be mistaking me for a guy who gives a shit.
My mistake. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=5537.msg181585#msg181585)
Quote from: CT III on June 30, 2009, 07:47:33 PM
Quote from: JD on June 30, 2009, 06:53:55 PM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on June 30, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Quote from: MAD on June 30, 2009, 09:56:49 AM
Quote from: JD on June 29, 2009, 06:53:06 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 29, 2009, 06:10:15 PM
Quote from: JD on June 29, 2009, 06:07:13 PM
Amare's going to my Warriors to play with STEPH CURRY.
You're awesome.
Thanks. I did that special for the 4 people that read this thread.
Just because we don't post don't mean we don't read, sucka!
Seconded. You guys almost make me interested in watching the Bulls. I actually mean that as a compliment.
Forget about the Bulls and just follow my lead, BK. I don't watch crappy basketball and I never get attached to teams. If some basketball team wanted me to follow them blindly and obsess over them, then they should have been the cubs.
Kerm's got his hands full with Notre Dame football. Give him some space.
There's a reason the Sons of Jim Essian play on Saturday afternoons. A big, fat reason.
Quote from: Slak on July 01, 2009, 12:15:49 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 01, 2009, 12:12:53 PM
Quote from: Slak on July 01, 2009, 11:52:50 AM
Quote from: RV on July 01, 2009, 11:21:25 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 01, 2009, 11:14:50 AM
This sounds bad:
QuoteChicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon(notes) and Milwaukee Bucks forward Charlie Villanueva(notes) flew to Detroit on Wednesday morning for a mid-day meeting with team president Joe Dumars and indications are both are moving rapidly toward deals with the Detroit Pistons, league and sources close to the two players told Yahoo! Sports.
Hope everyone enjoys the 90-ppg, 33-win Bulls next season.
I'm fine with losing Gordon if they end up with Amare, Bosh, or Wade. I know it shouldn't be an either/or proposition, but I'd rather Reinsdorf's cheap ass go over the luxury tax for an actual top 10 NBA talent.
If they lose Gordon AND don't acquire an established star by this time next year, who's up for flipping Huey's Malibu over on top of Reinsdorf, Paxson and Gar?
Huey will be thrilled if the Bulls don't re-sign Gordon. Hooray for that.
I'm sorry. You must be mistaking me for a guy who gives a shit.
My mistake. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=5537.msg181585#msg181585)
It's called "attempting to be irreverent (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=5537.msg181605#msg181605)"
No, seriously. I really don't care. Go jump on someone else's ballsack.
Quote from: MAD on July 01, 2009, 12:34:40 PM
Quote from: Slak on July 01, 2009, 12:15:49 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 01, 2009, 12:12:53 PM
Quote from: Slak on July 01, 2009, 11:52:50 AM
Quote from: RV on July 01, 2009, 11:21:25 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 01, 2009, 11:14:50 AM
This sounds bad:
QuoteChicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon(notes) and Milwaukee Bucks forward Charlie Villanueva(notes) flew to Detroit on Wednesday morning for a mid-day meeting with team president Joe Dumars and indications are both are moving rapidly toward deals with the Detroit Pistons, league and sources close to the two players told Yahoo! Sports.
Hope everyone enjoys the 90-ppg, 33-win Bulls next season.
I'm fine with losing Gordon if they end up with Amare, Bosh, or Wade. I know it shouldn't be an either/or proposition, but I'd rather Reinsdorf's cheap ass go over the luxury tax for an actual top 10 NBA talent.
If they lose Gordon AND don't acquire an established star by this time next year, who's up for flipping Huey's Malibu over on top of Reinsdorf, Paxson and Gar?
Huey will be thrilled if the Bulls don't re-sign Gordon. Hooray for that.
I'm sorry. You must be mistaking me for a guy who gives a shit.
My mistake. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=5537.msg181585#msg181585)
It's called "attempting to be irreverent (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=5537.msg181605#msg181605)"
No, seriously. I really don't care. Go jump on someone else's ballsack.
Damnit, Huey...stop forking up this thread.
Quote from: PenFoe on July 01, 2009, 12:45:22 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 01, 2009, 12:34:40 PM
Quote from: Slak on July 01, 2009, 12:15:49 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 01, 2009, 12:12:53 PM
Quote from: Slak on July 01, 2009, 11:52:50 AM
Quote from: RV on July 01, 2009, 11:21:25 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 01, 2009, 11:14:50 AM
This sounds bad:
QuoteChicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon(notes) and Milwaukee Bucks forward Charlie Villanueva(notes) flew to Detroit on Wednesday morning for a mid-day meeting with team president Joe Dumars and indications are both are moving rapidly toward deals with the Detroit Pistons, league and sources close to the two players told Yahoo! Sports.
Hope everyone enjoys the 90-ppg, 33-win Bulls next season.
I'm fine with losing Gordon if they end up with Amare, Bosh, or Wade. I know it shouldn't be an either/or proposition, but I'd rather Reinsdorf's cheap ass go over the luxury tax for an actual top 10 NBA talent.
If they lose Gordon AND don't acquire an established star by this time next year, who's up for flipping Huey's Malibu over on top of Reinsdorf, Paxson and Gar?
Huey will be thrilled if the Bulls don't re-sign Gordon. Hooray for that.
I'm sorry. You must be mistaking me for a guy who gives a shit.
My mistake. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=5537.msg181585#msg181585)
It's called "attempting to be irreverent (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=5537.msg181605#msg181605)"
No, seriously. I really don't care. Go jump on someone else's ballsack.
Damnit, Huey...stop forking up this thread.
I was summoned, jerkstore.
Quote from: RV on July 01, 2009, 11:21:25 AM
I'm fine with losing Gordon if they end up with Amare, Bosh, or Wade. I know it shouldn't be an either/or proposition, but I'd rather Reinsdorf's cheap ass go over the luxury tax for an actual top 10 NBA talent.
I agree with all of this. They should be creative enough to find a way to keep their second-best player, but I guess that's not possible.
Quote from: Eli on July 01, 2009, 12:52:25 PM
Quote from: RV on July 01, 2009, 11:21:25 AM
I'm fine with losing Gordon if they end up with Amare, Bosh, or Wade. I know it shouldn't be an either/or proposition, but I'd rather Reinsdorf's cheap ass go over the luxury tax for an actual top 10 NBA talent.
I agree with all of this. They should be creative enough to find a way to keep their second-best player, but I guess that's not possible.
The bigger problem, to me, is that Ben Gordon was the Bulls second best player.
Quote from: Ivy6 on July 01, 2009, 01:18:19 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 01, 2009, 12:52:25 PM
Quote from: RV on July 01, 2009, 11:21:25 AM
I'm fine with losing Gordon if they end up with Amare, Bosh, or Wade. I know it shouldn't be an either/or proposition, but I'd rather Reinsdorf's cheap ass go over the luxury tax for an actual top 10 NBA talent.
I agree with all of this. They should be creative enough to find a way to keep their second-best player, but I guess that's not possible.
The bigger problem, to me, is that Ben Gordon was the Bulls second best player.
It's really pathetic how many Bulls fans don't realize this.
Quote from: Slak on July 01, 2009, 01:56:50 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on July 01, 2009, 01:18:19 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 01, 2009, 12:52:25 PM
Quote from: RV on July 01, 2009, 11:21:25 AM
I'm fine with losing Gordon if they end up with Amare, Bosh, or Wade. I know it shouldn't be an either/or proposition, but I'd rather Reinsdorf's cheap ass go over the luxury tax for an actual top 10 NBA talent.
I agree with all of this. They should be creative enough to find a way to keep their second-best player, but I guess that's not possible.
The bigger problem, to me, is that Ben Gordon was the Bulls second best player.
It's really pathetic how many Bulls fans don't realize this.
Losing Gordon is a big loss short-term, still seems like the right decision long-term.
He is better at scoring than pretty much anyone else on the Bulls is at anything (except Rose at being awesome), so it's hard to lose a guy like that.
Still, it's hard to imagine a championship team with Ben Gordon getting a sizable chunk of the salary cap.
Quote from: Eli on July 01, 2009, 11:14:50 AM
This sounds bad:
QuoteChicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon(notes) and Milwaukee Bucks forward Charlie Villanueva(notes) flew to Detroit on Wednesday morning for a mid-day meeting with team president Joe Dumars and indications are both are moving rapidly toward deals with the Detroit Pistons, league and sources close to the two players told Yahoo! Sports.
Hope everyone enjoys the 90-ppg, 33-win Bulls next season.
Who cares. What's the difference between 33 wins with no playoffs and 41 wins but losing in the first round? Yeah I was sucked into the Celtics series, but it was pretty meaningless.
Quote from: butthead on July 01, 2009, 03:02:22 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 01, 2009, 11:14:50 AM
This sounds bad:
QuoteChicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon(notes) and Milwaukee Bucks forward Charlie Villanueva(notes) flew to Detroit on Wednesday morning for a mid-day meeting with team president Joe Dumars and indications are both are moving rapidly toward deals with the Detroit Pistons, league and sources close to the two players told Yahoo! Sports.
Hope everyone enjoys the 90-ppg, 33-win Bulls next season.
Who cares. What's the difference between 33 wins with no playoffs and 41 wins but losing in the first round? Yeah I was sucked into the Celtics series, but it was pretty meaningless.
A potential #1 draft pick
I've been reading quite a bit of KD today, and this paragraph got my heartrate up:
Quote
Portland needs a defender, and it needs a point guard. Chicago's Kirk Hinrich would seem to be the obvious fit, but if the Blazers sign Hedo, they'd have to ship Outlaw to Chicago for Hinrich. The team plays great for a year, but by the time Turkoglu reveals himself to be a seventh or eighth man as a 32-year old in 2011, where's the relief? Where's the payoff, from all that cap space? The ability to plug in Nicolas Batum? You have that right now!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie, for those unenlightened.
The tone of the article doesn't sound like it's inevitable or anything, but sign me up.
Quote from: Ivy6 on July 01, 2009, 03:26:52 PM
I've been reading quite a bit of KD today, and this paragraph got my heartrate up:
Quote
Portland needs a defender, and it needs a point guard. Chicago's Kirk Hinrich would seem to be the obvious fit, but if the Blazers sign Hedo, they'd have to ship Outlaw to Chicago for Hinrich. The team plays great for a year, but by the time Turkoglu reveals himself to be a seventh or eighth man as a 32-year old in 2011, where's the relief? Where's the payoff, from all that cap space? The ability to plug in Nicolas Batum? You have that right now!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie, for those unenlightened.
The tone of the article doesn't sound like it's inevitable or anything, but sign me up.
Are you trying to get us excited for Travis Outlaw?
yes?
I was more excited before I looked up his stats. I thought he was a better rebounder. Turns out he's he wasn't what I thought he were.
On the plus side, however, he's younger than Taj Gibson.
That was fast.
The Pistons have reached agreement with free agent guard Ben Gordon on a five-year contract worth around $55 million, according to Yahoo! Sports. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-gordonpistons070109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
Quote from: PenFoe on July 01, 2009, 06:20:09 PM
That was fast.
The Pistons have reached agreement with free agent guard Ben Gordon on a five-year contract worth around $55 million, according to Yahoo! Sports. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-gordonpistons070109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
You are fast, my friend. Wow this offense is going to suck.
Quote from: Slak on July 01, 2009, 06:21:38 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 01, 2009, 06:20:09 PM
That was fast.
The Pistons have reached agreement with free agent guard Ben Gordon on a five-year contract worth around $55 million, according to Yahoo! Sports. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-gordonpistons070109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
You are fast, my friend. Wow this offense is going to suck.
That contract seems ridiculous.
I don't understand what the Pistons are doing at all.
If they sign Villanueva, I understand it even less.
Quote from: Slak on July 01, 2009, 06:21:38 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 01, 2009, 06:20:09 PM
That was fast.
The Pistons have reached agreement with free agent guard Ben Gordon on a five-year contract worth around $55 million, according to Yahoo! Sports. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-gordonpistons070109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
You are fast, my friend. Wow this offense is going to suck.
Two words on the Bulls here: Marian Hossa.
Quote from: PenFoe on July 01, 2009, 06:24:01 PM
Quote from: Slak on July 01, 2009, 06:21:38 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 01, 2009, 06:20:09 PM
That was fast.
The Pistons have reached agreement with free agent guard Ben Gordon on a five-year contract worth around $55 million, according to Yahoo! Sports. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-gordonpistons070109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
You are fast, my friend. Wow this offense is going to suck.
That contract seems ridiculous.
I don't understand what the Pistons are doing at all.
If they sign Villanueva, I understand it even less.
Get ready to be perplexed:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4301111
Well, that sucked. I don't know what the pistons are doing, but what the hell are the bulls doing? I don't get why the bulls couldn't give him the same deal.
Quote from: PenFoe on July 01, 2009, 06:24:01 PM
Quote from: Slak on July 01, 2009, 06:21:38 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 01, 2009, 06:20:09 PM
That was fast.
The Pistons have reached agreement with free agent guard Ben Gordon on a five-year contract worth around $55 million, according to Yahoo! Sports. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-gordonpistons070109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
You are fast, my friend. Wow this offense is going to suck.
That contract seems ridiculous.
I don't understand what the Pistons are doing at all.
If they sign Villanueva, I understand it even less.
Revenge for the horrible deal the Bulls gave Ben Wallace?
A friend of mine, who is intelligent, believes that we should wager 100 dollars on 2 of the 3 happening and 200 if all three happen (I win if they don't):
Quote1) Bulls win more games in 09-10 than in 08-09
2) Bulls have a better pt differential in 09-10 than in 08-09
3) John Salmons averages more ppg than Ben Gordon in 09-10
I'm more than happy to take those odds - am I crazy? I don't think Salmons will average 20 or more ppg. And considering how the Bulls had to fight and claw to get to the number of wins they had last year with a better team, I like my odds.
Thoughts?
Quote from: Slak on July 02, 2009, 09:20:05 AM
A friend of mine, who is intelligent, believes that we should wager 100 dollars on 2 of the 3 happening and 200 if all three happen (I win if they don't):
Quote1) Bulls win more games in 09-10 than in 08-09
2) Bulls have a better pt differential in 09-10 than in 08-09
3) John Salmons averages more ppg than Ben Gordon in 09-10
I'm more than happy to take those odds - am I crazy? I don't think Salmons will average 20 or more ppg. And considering how the Bulls had to fight and claw to get to the number of wins they had last year with a better team, I like my odds.
Thoughts?
You're pretty safe with the Salmons bet, I think. He'll be 30 next year and only four over-30 guys average more than 20.7 points last season -- Kobe, Dirk, Jamison and Vince Carter. Obviously, Salmons isn't any of those guys.
There's always a chance that Rose could develop enough to somehow help the team squeak out more wins than last season. But I still feel pretty confident saying they won't win more than 41 games. If they do, it'll be because Rose vaulted himself into a top-10 player. And if that happens by next season, we're all winners.
Point differential is a slightly more tricky one. The early-season Bulls were so terrible last year and got blown out so frequently that they actually had a negative point differential for the season (-0.3). They'll probably be right around there next year, too.
Even still, you probably have better odds than he does.
Quote from: Eli on July 02, 2009, 09:33:24 AM
Quote from: Slak on July 02, 2009, 09:20:05 AM
A friend of mine, who is intelligent, believes that we should wager 100 dollars on 2 of the 3 happening and 200 if all three happen (I win if they don't):
Quote1) Bulls win more games in 09-10 than in 08-09
2) Bulls have a better pt differential in 09-10 than in 08-09
3) John Salmons averages more ppg than Ben Gordon in 09-10
I'm more than happy to take those odds - am I crazy? I don't think Salmons will average 20 or more ppg. And considering how the Bulls had to fight and claw to get to the number of wins they had last year with a better team, I like my odds.
Thoughts?
You're pretty safe with the Salmons bet, I think. He'll be 30 next year and only four over-30 guys average more than 20.7 points last season -- Kobe, Dirk, Jamison and Vince Carter. Obviously, Salmons isn't any of those guys.
There's always a chance that Rose could develop enough to somehow help the team squeak out more wins than last season. But I still feel pretty confident saying they won't win more than 41 games. If they do, it'll be because Rose vaulted himself into a top-10 player. And if that happens by next season, we're all winners.
Point differential is a slightly more tricky one. The early-season Bulls were so terrible last year and got blown out so frequently that they actually had a negative point differential for the season (-0.3). They'll probably be right around there next year, too.
Even still, you probably have better odds than he does.
That's some damn good ammo - and fast. How the hell did you find that so quickly?
Quote from: Slak on July 02, 2009, 09:39:00 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 02, 2009, 09:33:24 AM
Quote from: Slak on July 02, 2009, 09:20:05 AM
A friend of mine, who is intelligent, believes that we should wager 100 dollars on 2 of the 3 happening and 200 if all three happen (I win if they don't):
Quote1) Bulls win more games in 09-10 than in 08-09
2) Bulls have a better pt differential in 09-10 than in 08-09
3) John Salmons averages more ppg than Ben Gordon in 09-10
I'm more than happy to take those odds - am I crazy? I don't think Salmons will average 20 or more ppg. And considering how the Bulls had to fight and claw to get to the number of wins they had last year with a better team, I like my odds.
Thoughts?
You're pretty safe with the Salmons bet, I think. He'll be 30 next year and only four over-30 guys average more than 20.7 points last season -- Kobe, Dirk, Jamison and Vince Carter. Obviously, Salmons isn't any of those guys.
There's always a chance that Rose could develop enough to somehow help the team squeak out more wins than last season. But I still feel pretty confident saying they won't win more than 41 games. If they do, it'll be because Rose vaulted himself into a top-10 player. And if that happens by next season, we're all winners.
Point differential is a slightly more tricky one. The early-season Bulls were so terrible last year and got blown out so frequently that they actually had a negative point differential for the season (-0.3). They'll probably be right around there next year, too.
Even still, you probably have better odds than he does.
That's some damn good ammo - and fast. How the hell did you find that so quickly?
Ok, first off the contracts Piston handed out are ridiculous. I think that's only a million more a year than the Bulls offered Gordon and he would have made up for that with other deals playing in the 3rd biggest market in the league along side Rose. I guess he doesn't want to be the second fiddle to Rose but he's certainly not going to lead the Pissed Ons very far with how much he turns the ball over. They're shaping up to be the Bulls under Skiles that relied on the outside shot to do anything. Streaky shooter is streaky. I'd love to still have him here, but screw it. If Rose can get that 3 shot working he's going to be much more valuable that Ben.
I comletely agree with the 3 bets to make on the bulls according to a certain unnamed interweb friend. this team is bigger, younger, and they've got a good season together under their belts. Scoring in the paint and the 10-15 footer will be the main weapons and that's good basketball. Screw relying on the 3 to win every god damn game.
I'm in Detroit right now and look forward to all the shit talk about this trade all weekend.
Ramblings:
Chris Mannix reported this AM that he thinks Detroit is also going to end up with Tyson Chandler.
Which maybe makes a little more sense, but they still just shelled out $95 million to Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva which is space crazy.
But fuck Detroit, I didn't want BG for another 5 years at $55 million, but it sure leaves a big hole.
Going all in for the Free Agent class of '10 seems like too big a gamble (see McGrady, Hill).
Watching Salmons launch 20 shots a game is a very painful proposition.
None of the available FA's in '09 seem like a particularly good fit.
Go Bulls.
Quote from: PenFoe on July 02, 2009, 11:56:53 AM
Ramblings:
Chris Mannix reported this AM that he thinks Detroit is also going to end up with Tyson Chandler.
Which maybe makes a little more sense, but they still just shelled out $95 million to Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva which is space crazy.
But fuck Detroit, I didn't want BG for another 5 years at $55 million, but it sure leaves a big hole.
Going all in for the Free Agent class of '10 seems like too big a gamble (see McGrady, Hill).
Watching Salmons launch 20 shots a game is a very painful proposition.
None of the available FA's in '09 seem like a particularly good fit.
Go Bulls.
Well if they get Chandler it makes a little more sense but not really if Gordon is running the point and feeding him. Gordon is a shooting guard, not the point guard Tyson needs to clean up after and take feeds from.
Quote from: Poon on July 02, 2009, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 02, 2009, 11:56:53 AM
Ramblings:
Chris Mannix reported this AM that he thinks Detroit is also going to end up with Tyson Chandler.
Which maybe makes a little more sense, but they still just shelled out $95 million to Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva which is space crazy.
Buttfuck Detroit, I didn't want BG for another 5 years at $55 million, but it sure leaves a big hole.
Going all in for the Free Agent class of '10 seems like too big a gamble (see McGrady, Hill).
Watching Salmons launch 20 shots a game is a very painful proposition.
None of the available FA's in '09 seem like a particularly good fit.
Go Bulls.
Well if they get Chandler it makes a little more sense but not really if Gordon is running the point and feeding him. Gordon is a shooting guard, not the point guard Tyson needs to clean up after and take feeds from.
Tyson Chandler is just a guy. He fell into a perfect situation in New Orleans with Chris Paul, where his non-existant offensive game could be covered up by alley-oops and tip ins because Paul's penetration left him unboxed in the lane. He's an overpaid Joakim Noah. The Pistons can have him.
I think the Gordon signing makes Luol Deng the pivotal Bull next year. If he can produce anywhere near his last fully healthy season (19ppg, 7rpg, 52% shooting, 82 starts) we'll be fine, and then Slaky loses all three of his bets. It's an enormous IF, seeing as how he's a forgotten man at this point.
Is he going to be 100% at the start of the season?
Quote from: Poon on July 02, 2009, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 02, 2009, 11:56:53 AM
Ramblings:
Chris Mannix reported this AM that he thinks Detroit is also going to end up with Tyson Chandler.
Which maybe makes a little more sense, but they still just shelled out $95 million to Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva which is space crazy.
But fuck Detroit, I didn't want BG for another 5 years at $55 million, but it sure leaves a big hole.
Going all in for the Free Agent class of '10 seems like too big a gamble (see McGrady, Hill).
Watching Salmons launch 20 shots a game is a very painful proposition.
None of the available FA's in '09 seem like a particularly good fit.
Go Bulls.
Well if they get Chandler it makes a little more sense but not really if Gordon is running the point and feeding him. Gordon is a shooting guard, not the point guard Tyson needs to clean up after and take feeds from.
Wait, Gordon is running the point?!?
Quote from: Ivy6 on July 02, 2009, 12:24:21 PM
Quote from: Poon on July 02, 2009, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 02, 2009, 11:56:53 AM
Ramblings:
Chris Mannix reported this AM that he thinks Detroit is also going to end up with Tyson Chandler.
Which maybe makes a little more sense, but they still just shelled out $95 million to Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva which is space crazy.
Buttfuck Detroit, I didn't want BG for another 5 years at $55 million, but it sure leaves a big hole.
Going all in for the Free Agent class of '10 seems like too big a gamble (see McGrady, Hill).
Watching Salmons launch 20 shots a game is a very painful proposition.
None of the available FA's in '09 seem like a particularly good fit.
Go Bulls.
Well if they get Chandler it makes a little more sense but not really if Gordon is running the point and feeding him. Gordon is a shooting guard, not the point guard Tyson needs to clean up after and take feeds from.
Tyson Chandler is just a guy. He fell into a perfect situation in New Orleans with Chris Paul, where his non-existant offensive game could be covered up by alley-oops and tip ins because Paul's penetration left him unboxed in the lane. He's an overpaid Joakim Noah. The Pistons can have him.
I think the Gordon signing makes Luol Deng the pivotal Bull next year. If he can produce anywhere near his last fully healthy season (19ppg, 7rpg, 52% shooting, 82 starts) we'll be fine, and then Slaky loses all three of his bets. It's an enormous IF, seeing as how he's a forgotten man at this point.
Is he going to be 100% at the start of the season?
I'd say I hope I lose the bets, but that would probably mean something like 43 wins and another first round exit. Really not that appealing to me. If the Bulls don't want to keep their good players around and keep the front office stocked with dunderheads fuck 'em.
Hehehe. (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=4302507)
QuoteBen Gordon said the Chicago Bulls did not make him an offer, despite general manager Gar Forman saying recently that re-signing Gordon was the team's goal.
"I mean, they didn't pursue me at all," Gordon said. "They didn't even make an offer, so it was pretty much a one-man race."
Quote from: PenFoe on July 02, 2009, 12:25:46 PM
Quote from: Poon on July 02, 2009, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 02, 2009, 11:56:53 AM
Ramblings:
Chris Mannix reported this AM that he thinks Detroit is also going to end up with Tyson Chandler.
Which maybe makes a little more sense, but they still just shelled out $95 million to Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva which is space crazy.
But fuck Detroit, I didn't want BG for another 5 years at $55 million, but it sure leaves a big hole.
Going all in for the Free Agent class of '10 seems like too big a gamble (see McGrady, Hill).
Watching Salmons launch 20 shots a game is a very painful proposition.
None of the available FA's in '09 seem like a particularly good fit.
Go Bulls.
Well if they get Chandler it makes a little more sense but not really if Gordon is running the point and feeding him. Gordon is a shooting guard, not the point guard Tyson needs to clean up after and take feeds from.
Wait, Gordon is running the point?!?
Who else is gonna? Rip? Did they get some other point guard I don't know about that's worth a damn? The answer is gone.
Quote from: Poon on July 02, 2009, 01:27:25 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 02, 2009, 12:25:46 PM
Quote from: Poon on July 02, 2009, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 02, 2009, 11:56:53 AM
Ramblings:
Chris Mannix reported this AM that he thinks Detroit is also going to end up with Tyson Chandler.
Which maybe makes a little more sense, but they still just shelled out $95 million to Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva which is space crazy.
But fuck Detroit, I didn't want BG for another 5 years at $55 million, but it sure leaves a big hole.
Going all in for the Free Agent class of '10 seems like too big a gamble (see McGrady, Hill).
Watching Salmons launch 20 shots a game is a very painful proposition.
None of the available FA's in '09 seem like a particularly good fit.
Go Bulls.
Well if they get Chandler it makes a little more sense but not really if Gordon is running the point and feeding him. Gordon is a shooting guard, not the point guard Tyson needs to clean up after and take feeds from.
Wait, Gordon is running the point?!?
Who else is gonna? Rip? Did they get some other point guard I don't know about that's worth a damn? The answer is gone.
I figured Stuckey was going to run the point like last year.
Gordon says Bulls never made him an offer. (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=4302507)
Quote from: Eli on July 02, 2009, 01:17:08 PM
Hehehe. (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=4302507)
QuoteBen Gordon said the Chicago Bulls did not make him an offer, despite general manager Gar Forman saying recently that re-signing Gordon was the team's goal.
"I mean, they didn't pursue me at all," Gordon said. "They didn't even make an offer, so it was pretty much a one-man race."
Not a strong start to the afternoon for you, Pen
Quote from: Ivy6 on July 02, 2009, 02:06:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 02, 2009, 01:17:08 PM
Hehehe. (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=4302507)
QuoteBen Gordon said the Chicago Bulls did not make him an offer, despite general manager Gar Forman saying recently that re-signing Gordon was the team's goal.
"I mean, they didn't pursue me at all," Gordon said. "They didn't even make an offer, so it was pretty much a one-man race."
Not a strong start to the afternoon for you, Pen
It's still morning in Arizona!
Quote from: PenFoe on July 02, 2009, 01:54:13 PM
Gordon says Bulls never made him an offer. (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=4302507)
Michael touched a lot of people.
Quote from: PenFoe on July 02, 2009, 02:08:55 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on July 02, 2009, 02:06:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 02, 2009, 01:17:08 PM
Hehehe. (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=4302507)
QuoteBen Gordon said the Chicago Bulls did not make him an offer, despite general manager Gar Forman saying recently that re-signing Gordon was the team's goal.
"I mean, they didn't pursue me at all," Gordon said. "They didn't even make an offer, so it was pretty much a one-man race."
Not a strong start to the afternoon for you, Pen
It's still morning in Arizona!
Actually, it's not.
Quote from: PenFoe on July 02, 2009, 01:29:13 PM
Quote from: Poon on July 02, 2009, 01:27:25 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 02, 2009, 12:25:46 PM
Quote from: Poon on July 02, 2009, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 02, 2009, 11:56:53 AM
Ramblings:
Chris Mannix reported this AM that he thinks Detroit is also going to end up with Tyson Chandler.
Which maybe makes a little more sense, but they still just shelled out $95 million to Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva which is space crazy.
But fuck Detroit, I didn't want BG for another 5 years at $55 million, but it sure leaves a big hole.
Going all in for the Free Agent class of '10 seems like too big a gamble (see McGrady, Hill).
Watching Salmons launch 20 shots a game is a very painful proposition.
None of the available FA's in '09 seem like a particularly good fit.
Go Bulls.
Well if they get Chandler it makes a little more sense but not really if Gordon is running the point and feeding him. Gordon is a shooting guard, not the point guard Tyson needs to clean up after and take feeds from.
Wait, Gordon is running the point?!?
Who else is gonna? Rip? Did they get some other point guard I don't know about that's worth a damn? The answer is gone.
I figured Stuckey was going to run the point like last year.
thi
Well, at least David Kahn is having a worse day than me.
Quote
Ricky Rubio will remain in Spain to play for his DKV Joventut team for the remaining two years of his contract rather than try to move to the NBA this season, El Periodico reported today.
Quote from: TDubbs on July 02, 2009, 02:13:25 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 02, 2009, 01:29:13 PM
Quote from: Poon on July 02, 2009, 01:27:25 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 02, 2009, 12:25:46 PM
Quote from: Poon on July 02, 2009, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 02, 2009, 11:56:53 AM
Ramblings:
Chris Mannix reported this AM that he thinks Detroit is also going to end up with Tyson Chandler.
Which maybe makes a little more sense, but they still just shelled out $95 million to Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva which is space crazy.
But fuck Detroit, I didn't want BG for another 5 years at $55 million, but it sure leaves a big hole.
Going all in for the Free Agent class of '10 seems like too big a gamble (see McGrady, Hill).
Watching Salmons launch 20 shots a game is a very painful proposition.
None of the available FA's in '09 seem like a particularly good fit.
Go Bulls.
Well if they get Chandler it makes a little more sense but not really if Gordon is running the point and feeding him. Gordon is a shooting guard, not the point guard Tyson needs to clean up after and take feeds from.
Wait, Gordon is running the point?!?
Who else is gonna? Rip? Did they get some other point guard I don't know about that's worth a damn? The answer is gone.
I figured Stuckey was going to run the point like last year.
thi
Well they still have Rip right? Stuckey isn't the guy you want running the point with the team they are putting together. Odds are they'll stick Gordon at the point.
Quote from: Poon on July 02, 2009, 04:27:37 PM
Well they still have Rip right? Stuckey isn't the guy you want running the point with the team they are putting together. Odds are they'll stick Gordon at the point.
I doubt this could be any more incorrect than it is as currently constructed.
Quote from: Ivy6 on July 02, 2009, 04:44:09 PM
Quote from: Poon on July 02, 2009, 04:27:37 PM
Well they still have Rip right? Stuckey isn't the guy you want running the point with the team they are putting together. Odds are they'll stick Gordon at the point.
I doubt this could be any more incorrect than it is as currently constructed. You are absolutely correct and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Fix'd
Yeah, I'm going to get into an argument with a guy who thinks the Pistons signed Ben Gordon-- he of average ball-handling skills and 3.0 assists per game in his career-- not to score, but to initiate their offense.
Smart money's on Hamilton being traded.
Quote from: PenFoe on July 02, 2009, 02:13:41 PM
Well, at least David Kahn is having a worse day than me.
Quote
Ricky Rubio will remain in Spain to play for his DKV Joventut team for the remaining two years of his contract rather than try to move to the NBA this season, El Periodico reported today.
I positive this development. I feel bad for Jonny Flynn, though.
Flawed as Gordon is, he is very important to the bulls. I just don't get why the bulls don't even offer him a contract. Who is going to score next year for this team? I am not really looking forward to Rose killing himself next year trying to get this team to 40 wins.
UPDATE:
From Tyrus Thomas' Twitter account:
QuoteIs it me or everytime u have to drop 1, the closer u get to the toilet, the more it has to come out? LMAO
DPD:
We're always chugging KD's dick around here, but the guy deserves every ounce of our slobber. Great column (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Jannero-Pargo-could-be-a-Bull-again?urn=nba,174951) on the Bulls' inexplicable interest in Jannero Pargo.
QuoteUnless you're bringing him on for a slim salary that only lasts for one year, Jannero Pargo doesn't help. Jannero Pargo hurts, especially if he's on the books beyond 2009-10.
Why? Because nobody ever remembers the shots that he misses. Nobody likes to think about on-ball defense, when booming three-pointers can be reflected upon. And nobody obsesses over the free throws JP doesn't shoot.
QuoteChicago wants to sign this guy, because you've heard of him. Either the team is awful at player evaluation, and doesn't understand advanced (or even obvious) basketball metrics, or the Bulls are evil geniuses, bent on keeping the moderate NBA fans coming back for more, filling up that stadium.
QuoteOr they could tell you that he's some sort of answer, sign him beyond this season, and continue to pile "assets" without actually trying to build anything more than a second round hopeful. As it's always been ... prove me wrong, Bulls. Please.
As it's been for a while, Reinsdorf is the biggest thing holding back the Bulls. Anyone want to start a
hirelonkruger.com firejerryreinsdorf.com Bulls blog? No? OK.
Quote from: Eli on July 08, 2009, 09:59:36 AM
DPD:
We're always chugging KD's dick around here, but the guy deserves every ounce of our slobber. Great column (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Jannero-Pargo-could-be-a-Bull-again?urn=nba,174951) on the Bulls' inexplicable interest in Jannero Pargo.
QuoteUnless you're bringing him on for a slim salary that only lasts for one year, Jannero Pargo doesn't help. Jannero Pargo hurts, especially if he's on the books beyond 2009-10.
Why? Because nobody ever remembers the shots that he misses. Nobody likes to think about on-ball defense, when booming three-pointers can be reflected upon. And nobody obsesses over the free throws JP doesn't shoot.
QuoteChicago wants to sign this guy, because you've heard of him. Either the team is awful at player evaluation, and doesn't understand advanced (or even obvious) basketball metrics, or the Bulls are evil geniuses, bent on keeping the moderate NBA fans coming back for more, filling up that stadium.
QuoteOr they could tell you that he's some sort of answer, sign him beyond this season, and continue to pile "assets" without actually trying to build anything more than a second round hopeful. As it's always been ... prove me wrong, Bulls. Please.
As it's been for a while, Reinsdorf is the biggest thing holding back the Bulls. Anyone want to start a hirelonkruger.com firejerryreinsdorf.com Bulls blog? No? OK.
I'm with you 100% on this. My friends (the ones that care about the Bulls) shared an intense hatred of all things Jannero Pargo while he was here. This potential signing makes me very, very sad.
I love Jannero Pargo. I'd love him even more if he stayed with the Hornets.
Quote from: Ivy6 on July 08, 2009, 10:28:25 AM
I love Jannero Pargo. I'd love him even more if he stayed with the Hornets.
I think I like his brother. Does that count for anything?
Quote from: TDubbs on July 08, 2009, 10:32:45 AM
Quote from: Ivy6 on July 08, 2009, 10:28:25 AM
I love Jannero Pargo. I'd love him even more if he stayed with the Hornets.
I think I like his brother. Does that count for anything?
Do you think he likes you back? That's what you need to find out first.
Quote from: Ivy6 on July 08, 2009, 10:47:45 AM
Quote from: TDubbs on July 08, 2009, 10:32:45 AM
Quote from: Ivy6 on July 08, 2009, 10:28:25 AM
I love Jannero Pargo. I'd love him even more if he stayed with the Hornets.
I think I like his brother. Does that count for anything?
Do you think he likes you back? That's what you need to find out first.
He check maybe.
Quote from: Ivy6 on July 08, 2009, 10:28:25 AM
I love Jannero Pargo. I'd love him even more if he stayed with the Hornets.
Jannero Pargo is just like Ben Gordon is you remove 90% of the talent.
Quote from: PenFoe on July 08, 2009, 11:18:03 AM
Quote from: Ivy6 on July 08, 2009, 10:28:25 AM
I love Jannero Pargo. I'd love him even more if he stayed with the Hornets.
Jannero Pargo is just like Ben Gordon is you remove 90% of the talent.
Is you? or is me?
I love Ron Artest. (http://lakers.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/08/how-crazy-is-ron-artest/20317/)
Quote
We're all moved by the death of Michael Jackson, but newest Laker Ron Artest is spectacularly moved. And by that I mean, he was moved to Ron Artesty, crazy lengths.
He not only chose to wear the number 37, which coincides with the number of weeks Michael Jackson's "Thriller" album was on the charts, he went a bit farther.
Artest recorded a song, posted on Youtube, that is his "tribute" to the King of Pop. The song is laced with the N-word, the F-word, and strange lyrics:
"I know you're in heaven. I hope to see you next year."
"You used to show me love. I know you didn't know me, but you showed me love."
From Basketball Prospectus, http://www.basketballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=716
QuoteShawn Marion is the odd player out in the wake of Turkoglu's turn, generating surprisingly little interest for a guy who was an All-Star every year from 2005 through 2007. The big problem is that Marion's value, as much as almost any free agent's, is contextual. As I laid out in an Every Play Counts piece while Marion was still in Miami, to be successful he needs an up-tempo team, one that will play him at power forward and one that will give him the chance to make plays on offense without the ball. The Raptors were, at best, one out of three on those points. Lo and behold, his rate stats changed little following the trade save for a considerable increase in possession usage. Unfortunately, unless Mike D'Antoni shows interest in a reunion in New York, it's tough to see what team can offer Marion all of the things he needs to succeed.
Could a guy like Marion succeed under Vinny, a student of the D'Antoni system (to a degree)? We've got room at the four and a playmaking PG- how bad of an idea could it be?
Quote from: Ivy6 on July 08, 2009, 04:48:13 PM
From Basketball Prospectus, http://www.basketballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=716
QuoteShawn Marion is the odd player out in the wake of Turkoglu's turn, generating surprisingly little interest for a guy who was an All-Star every year from 2005 through 2007. The big problem is that Marion's value, as much as almost any free agent's, is contextual. As I laid out in an Every Play Counts piece while Marion was still in Miami, to be successful he needs an up-tempo team, one that will play him at power forward and one that will give him the chance to make plays on offense without the ball. The Raptors were, at best, one out of three on those points. Lo and behold, his rate stats changed little following the trade save for a considerable increase in possession usage. Unfortunately, unless Mike D'Antoni shows interest in a reunion in New York, it's tough to see what team can offer Marion all of the things he needs to succeed.
Could a guy like Marion succeed under Vinny, a student of the D'Antoni system (to a degree)? We've got room at the four and a playmaking PG- how bad of an idea could it be?
Looks like that train is leaving the station. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4314637)
Quote
It appears that the Dallas Mavericks and Toronto Raptors have successfully recruited the Memphis Grizzlies to help them complete a trade that would eventually route free-agent swingman Shawn Marion to the Mavericks, according to NBA front-office sources.
Meanwhile, reports suggest that Jannero Pargo is a Bull.
FUCK MY LIFE.
Quote from: Slak on July 08, 2009, 05:18:01 PM
Meanwhile, reports suggest that Jannero Pargo is a Bull.
FUCK MY LIFE.
Here's the thing...it's a one year deal worth $2 mill. I think that meets the criteria that KD set out in the original article Eli pointed out:
Quote from: Eli on July 08, 2009, 09:59:36 AM
QuoteUnless you're bringing him on for a slim salary that only lasts for one year, Jannero Pargo doesn't help. Jannero Pargo hurts, especially if he's on the books beyond 2009-10.
By far not the worst thing the Bulls have done the last month or so, which is sadly saying something. But it's not doom.
Quote from: Ivy6 on July 09, 2009, 10:43:25 AM
Quote from: Slak on July 08, 2009, 05:18:01 PM
Meanwhile, reports suggest that Jannero Pargo is a Bull.
FUCK MY LIFE.
Here's the thing...it's a one year deal worth $2 mill. I think that meets the criteria that KD set out in the original article Eli pointed out:
Quote from: Eli on July 08, 2009, 09:59:36 AM
QuoteUnless you're bringing him on for a slim salary that only lasts for one year, Jannero Pargo doesn't help. Jannero Pargo hurts, especially if he's on the books beyond 2009-10.
By far not the worst thing the Bulls have done the last month or so, which is sadly saying something. But it's not doom.
It's been doom, but I really don't like Pargo.
Sources: Boozer could go to Chicago
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4317515
Quote from: Ivy6 on July 09, 2009, 04:41:40 PM
Sources: Boozer could go to Chicago
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4317515
I'd be cool with that one.
I may have missed something, but what does Portland sacrafice in that equation? For the Bulls it's Thomas/Hinrich for Boozer (fuck and yes). For the Jazz it would be Tyrus and probably resigning Milsap to replace Boozer (fine for them). Portland gets Hinrich for....the ability to take on his contract?
Furthermore, isn't Boozer an UFA after this year?
Quote from: Ivy6 on July 09, 2009, 04:48:47 PM
I may have missed something, but what does Portland sacrafice in that equation? For the Bulls it's Thomas/Hinrich for Boozer (fuck and yes). For the Jazz it would be Tyrus and probably resigning Milsap to replace Boozer (fine for them). Portland gets Hinrich for....the ability to take on his contract?
Furthermore, isn't Boozer an UFA after this year?
Yeah, he is. This would be outstanding. You get a really good player who you can either sign to an extension if he fits well with Rose, or use as a trade asset if somebody better (Bosh/Amare) is available at the deadline. This sounds too good to be true. As for what the Blazers are giving up, good question.
Damn you Tyrus:
QuoteNo I'm not traded. Just switching locations for the weekend! 23 minutes ago
Quote from: RV on July 09, 2009, 05:00:46 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on July 09, 2009, 04:48:47 PM
I may have missed something, but what does Portland sacrafice in that equation? For the Bulls it's Thomas/Hinrich for Boozer (fuck and yes). For the Jazz it would be Tyrus and probably resigning Milsap to replace Boozer (fine for them). Portland gets Hinrich for....the ability to take on his contract?
Furthermore, isn't Boozer an UFA after this year?
Yeah, he is. This would be outstanding. You get a really good player who you can either sign to an extension if he fits well with Rose, or use as a trade asset if somebody better (Bosh/Amare) is available at the deadline. This sounds too good to be true. As for what the Blazers are giving up, good question.
Damn you Tyrus:
QuoteNo I'm not traded. Just switching locations for the weekend! 23 minutes ago
I'd like to also sign up for "on board" with this.
Also, I think anyone who want to take on Hinrich's contract really shouldn't have to give up anything.
Maybe Paxson can finally get his wish and get Przybilla out of the deal too, now that he completely sucks.
Buzzkill (http://twitter.com/YahooSportsNBA/status/2557615249)
Quote from: PenFoe on July 09, 2009, 05:08:01 PM
Buzzkill (http://twitter.com/YahooSportsNBA/status/2557615249)
Twitter blocked at work...can anyone help?
Quote from: Ivy6 on July 09, 2009, 05:11:15 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 09, 2009, 05:08:01 PM
Buzzkill (http://twitter.com/YahooSportsNBA/status/2557615249)
Twitter blocked at work...can anyone help?
Adrian Wojnarowski, the Yahoo NBA guy.
This is the one I linked earlier:
Quote
Bulls haven't had a "single conversation" about a 3-way deal Blazers and "have nothing going" with Utah about Boozer, Bulls source tells Y!.
And since then:
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Multiple NBA GM's fear Boozer's high-demands for an extension, especially with 2010 cap projections. CHI has never wanted to be a tax team.
Quote from: PenFoe on July 09, 2009, 05:13:29 PM
Multiple NBA GM's fear Boozer's high-demands for an extension, especially with 2010 cap projections. CHI has never wanted to be a tax team.
I love Reinsdorf.
Today's installment of "Tribune Mushbrains" is brought to you by KC Johnson (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-10-bulls-bits-jul10,0,4975283.story):
QuoteWhile Utah is gauging the trade market on Boozer, trading Hinrich from a thin backcourt without getting a guard in return makes little sense.
I couldn't agree more, KC. Trading your backup point guard who is owed $26.5 million through 2012 for a legitimate 20-10 power forward is a terrible idea UNLESS you get the Jazz to throw in Brevin Knight. Then, and only then, would such a deal make sense.
DPD for a Groucho buzzkill (http://blogs.bulls.com/chicago_bulls_blog/2009/07/johnson-and-gibson-look-better-than-bad-boozer-rumor.html).
QuoteAs in the teams have "not" discussed a deal, and there have "not" been substantive talks.
I have checked this out thoroughly and am convinced there never have been discussions about any such deal. There's a theory going around that the Trailblazers have been putting out the false leaks (you'll notice they make out well in all the scenarios without much detail of what they give up) because of pressure they've been getting in Portland over losing out on Hedo Turkoglu after they said they would sign him.
Quote from: RV on July 10, 2009, 11:50:37 AM
DPD for a Groucho buzzkill (http://blogs.bulls.com/chicago_bulls_blog/2009/07/johnson-and-gibson-look-better-than-bad-boozer-rumor.html).
QuoteAs in the teams have "not" discussed a deal, and there have "not" been substantive talks.
I have checked this out thoroughly and am convinced there never have been discussions about any such deal. There's a theory going around that the Trailblazers have been putting out the false leaks (you'll notice they make out well in all the scenarios without much detail of what they give up) because of pressure they've been getting in Portland over losing out on Hedo Turkoglu after they said they would sign him.
Looks like Ivy6 sniffed this one out before Groucho. Well done.
The Bulls have signed 38-year-old guard Lindsey Hunter to a one-year contract for the veteran's minimum of $1.3 million.
Jannero Pargo just signed a similar deal, as the Bulls look to fortify their backcourt after the departure of Ben Gordon. Chicago's unwillingness to offer long-term contracts indicates they might trade someone (probably Kirk Hinrich) to free up cap space in 2010.
Source: ESPN.com
Quote from: BH on July 13, 2009, 04:35:13 PM
Chicago's unwillingness to offer long-term contracts indicates they might trade someone (probably Kirk Hinrich) to free up cap space in 2010.
If the Bulls' plan is to clear cap space and really shoot for 2010, they should do more than unload Kirk's contract. I'd love to see them try to get Tracy McGrady and his $23 million expiring contract, because if they're going to go for it, they might as well really go for it. Just freeing up Kirk's money up may not be enough to get a max FA.
Quote from: BH on July 13, 2009, 04:35:13 PM
The Bulls have signed 38-year-old guard Lindsey Hunter to a one-year contract for the veteran's minimum of $1.3 million.
Jannero Pargo just signed a similar deal, as the Bulls look to fortify their backcourt after the departure of Ben Gordon. Chicago's unwillingness to offer long-term contracts indicates they might trade someone (probably Kirk Hinrich) to free up cap space in 2010.
Source: ESPN.com
Get those season tickets now.
Quote from: Eli on July 13, 2009, 05:31:08 PM
Quote from: BH on July 13, 2009, 04:35:13 PM
Chicago's unwillingness to offer long-term contracts indicates they might trade someone (probably Kirk Hinrich) to free up cap space in 2010.
If the Bulls' plan is to clear cap space and really shoot for 2010, they should do more than unload Kirk's contract. I'd love to see them try to get Tracy McGrady and his $23 million expiring contract, because if they're going to go for it, they might as well really go for it. Just freeing up Kirk's money up may not be enough to get a max FA.
They could even let Derrick Rose keep his number. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/basketball/nba/07/13/mcgrady.ap/index.html)
Quote from: Eli on July 13, 2009, 05:31:08 PM
Quote from: BH on July 13, 2009, 04:35:13 PM
Chicago's unwillingness to offer long-term contracts indicates they might trade someone (probably Kirk Hinrich) to free up cap space in 2010.
If the Bulls' plan is to clear cap space and really shoot for 2010, they should do more than unload Kirk's contract. I'd love to see them try to get Tracy McGrady and his $23 million expiring contract, because if they're going to go for it, they might as well really go for it. Just freeing up Kirk's money up may not be enough to get a max FA.
That would be so poetic. Trade for McGrady, who they failed to sign to a max deal in 2000, mainly for his expiring contract. Then, in turn, fail to use that space to sign a would-be megastar to a max deal 10 years later.
Quote from: Ivy6 on July 13, 2009, 06:21:30 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 13, 2009, 05:31:08 PM
Quote from: BH on July 13, 2009, 04:35:13 PM
Chicago's unwillingness to offer long-term contracts indicates they might trade someone (probably Kirk Hinrich) to free up cap space in 2010.
If the Bulls' plan is to clear cap space and really shoot for 2010, they should do more than unload Kirk's contract. I'd love to see them try to get Tracy McGrady and his $23 million expiring contract, because if they're going to go for it, they might as well really go for it. Just freeing up Kirk's money up may not be enough to get a max FA.
That would be so poetic. Trade for McGrady, who they failed to sign to a max deal in 2000, mainly for his expiring contract. Then, in turn, fail to use that space to sign a would-be megastar to a max deal 10 years later.
That would be so Cub.
Just wanted to let you thread-readers know that Taj Gibson, the Bulls 24-year-old rookie, has committed 19 fouls in two summer league games (you can't foul out in summer league).
I'm seriously impressed.
Quote from: Eli on July 15, 2009, 10:42:48 PM
Just wanted to let you thread-readers know that Taj Gibson, the Bulls 24-year-old rookie, has committed 19 fouls in two summer league games (you can't foul out in summer league).
I'm seriously impressed.
Actually, I think there is a 10 foul and you're out rule. (http://twitter.com/SamSmithHoops/status/2660150951)
Quote from: PenFoe on July 16, 2009, 11:27:04 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 15, 2009, 10:42:48 PM
Just wanted to let you thread-readers know that Taj Gibson, the Bulls 24-year-old rookie, has committed 19 fouls in two summer league games (you can't foul out in summer league).
I'm seriously impressed.
Actually, I think there is a 10 foul and you're out rule. (http://twitter.com/SamSmithHoops/status/2660150951)
That's true. I forgot about it since it so rarely happens.
So far, Taj is averaging about 13 fouls per 36 minutes.
Quote from: Eli on July 16, 2009, 11:36:25 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on July 16, 2009, 11:27:04 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 15, 2009, 10:42:48 PM
Just wanted to let you thread-readers know that Taj Gibson, the Bulls 24-year-old rookie, has committed 19 fouls in two summer league games (you can't foul out in summer league).
I'm seriously impressed.
Actually, I think there is a 10 foul and you're out rule. (http://twitter.com/SamSmithHoops/status/2660150951)
That's true. I forgot about it since it so rarely happens.
So far, Taj is averaging about 13 fouls per 36 minutes.
Is that bad?
Quote from: PenFoe on July 16, 2009, 11:27:04 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 15, 2009, 10:42:48 PM
Just wanted to let you thread-readers know that Taj Gibson, the Bulls 24-year-old rookie, has committed 19 fouls in two summer league games (you can't foul out in summer league).
I'm seriously impressed.
Actually, I think there is a 10 foul and you're out rule. (http://twitter.com/SamSmithHoops/status/2660150951)
What's impressive is that he had the wherewithal to save that last foul to stay in a game.
Anthony Randolph of MY Golden State Warriors dropped a big 4-Deuce on your Bulls. That hasn't been done since Von Wafer. He couldn't have done it without STEPH CURRY runnin' the pick-and-roll(I don't really know anything that's going on in summer league games).
There's still room on the bandwagon, fellas. Join me! CT's already sittin' beside me. We just split a funnel cake. He's got some powdered sugar on his shirt, but I'm NOT TELLING! Shhhhh...don't you say a word.
Quote from: JD on July 16, 2009, 07:14:43 PM
Anthony Randolph of MY Golden State Warriors dropped a big 4-Deuce on your Bulls. That hasn't been done since Von Wafer. He couldn't have done it without STEPH CURRY runnin' the pick-and-roll(I don't really know anything that's going on in summer league games).
There's still room on the bandwagon, fellas. Join me! CT's already sittin' beside me. We just split a funnel cake. He's got some powdered sugar on his shirt, but I'm NOT TELLING! Shhhhh...don't you say a word.
You can tell JD. There's no shame in getting powdered sugar on your shirt when you're eating something as awesome as funnel cake.
" Chris Paul believes that the Hornets are looking to trade away players to cut costs and that it might mean he's the one going.
The Hornets are already in salary cap trouble with plenty of holes in their roster still to be filled. "I can be dealt. It's possible. It's possible." Paul told Pro Basketball News.
Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune "
Quote from: BH on July 17, 2009, 02:40:18 PM
" Chris Paul believes that the Hornets are looking to trade away players to cut costs and that it might mean he's the one going.
The Hornets are already in salary cap trouble with plenty of holes in their roster still to be filled. "I can be dealt. It's possible. It's possible." Paul told Pro Basketball News.
Chris Paul is dumb if he really thinks that.
http://www.thebrushback.com/nbadraftreview2k9.htm
"Say what you want about Tyreke Evans' flaws, but he was a lottery pick for a reason: because this is the weakest draft in the about 20 years."
Quote from: BH on July 24, 2009, 09:32:09 AM
http://www.thebrushback.com/nbadraftreview2k9.htm
"Say what you want about Tyreke Evans' flaws, but he was a lottery pick for a reason: because this is the weakest draft in the about 20 years."
Seems kind of early to say that. The players all have long, hard roads of failure ahead of them if they hope to match the awfulness of the 2000 draft. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_NBA_Draft#Round_one)
Quote from: Eli on July 24, 2009, 09:44:23 AM
Quote from: BH on July 24, 2009, 09:32:09 AM
http://www.thebrushback.com/nbadraftreview2k9.htm
"Say what you want about Tyreke Evans' flaws, but he was a lottery pick for a reason: because this is the weakest draft in the about 20 years."
Seems kind of early to say that. The players all have long, hard roads of failure ahead of them if they hope to match the awfulness of the 2000 draft. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_NBA_Draft#Round_one)
What about 1986? Isn't that the one where Len Bias croaked 48 hours after getting picked, Chris Washburn was washing windows within 5 years, and Bulls fans were all up in arms when Crumbs picked Brad Sellers over Johnny Dawkins? Turns out, they both sucked.
DPD. Sorry. I guess that would have been twenty two years ago. Carry on.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/basketball/nba/08/24/michael.beasley.ap/index.html
I'd rather the Bulls have a test cheater than a Khalil wannabe
Quote from: IrishYeti on August 24, 2009, 03:06:07 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/basketball/nba/08/24/michael.beasley.ap/index.html
I'd rather the Bulls have a test cheater than a Khalil wannabe
That's our Yeti!
Nothing like a good depression joke.
Quote from: PenFoe on August 24, 2009, 04:03:28 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on August 24, 2009, 03:06:07 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/basketball/nba/08/24/michael.beasley.ap/index.html
I'd rather the Bulls have a test cheater than a Khalil wannabe
That's our Yeti!
Nothing like a good depression joke.
Oh, am I supposed to feel sorry for someone who's probably been handed everything in life?
EDIT: Probably not the best choice of words, but fuck it. I don't give a shit that he's depressed. He can fuck himself.
Quote from: IrishYeti on August 24, 2009, 06:10:17 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 24, 2009, 04:03:28 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on August 24, 2009, 03:06:07 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/basketball/nba/08/24/michael.beasley.ap/index.html
I'd rather the Bulls have a test cheater than a Khalil wannabe
That's our Yeti!
Nothing like a good depression joke.
Oh, am I supposed to feel sorry for someone who's probably been handed everything in life?
EDIT: Probably not the best choice of words, but fuck it. I don't give a shit that he's depressed. He can fuck himself.
You aren't supporting a fellow tailwinder? I thought you guys were supposed to say fuck people less fortunate?
Quote from: IrishYeti on August 24, 2009, 06:10:17 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 24, 2009, 04:03:28 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on August 24, 2009, 03:06:07 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/basketball/nba/08/24/michael.beasley.ap/index.html
I'd rather the Bulls have a test cheater than a Khalil wannabe
That's our Yeti!
Nothing like a good depression joke.
Oh, am I supposed to feel sorry for someone who's probably been handed everything in life?
EDIT: Probably not the best choice of words, but fuck it. I don't give a shit that he's depressed. He can fuck himself.
I don't get IrishYeti's unnecessary hostility at all.
Quote from: Eli on August 24, 2009, 11:00:05 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on August 24, 2009, 06:10:17 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 24, 2009, 04:03:28 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on August 24, 2009, 03:06:07 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/basketball/nba/08/24/michael.beasley.ap/index.html
I'd rather the Bulls have a test cheater than a Khalil wannabe
That's our Yeti!
Nothing like a good depression joke.
Oh, am I supposed to feel sorry for someone who's probably been handed everything in life?
EDIT: Probably not the best choice of words, but fuck it. I don't give a shit that he's depressed. He can fuck himself.
I don't get IrishYeti's unnecessary hostility at all.
Whatever happened to personal responsibility? In Yeti's day, when a medical doctor diagnosed you with clinical depression and suggested some sort of "treatment" or "prescription", you slugged that damn fool in his lily-livered face. Any clod knows the best treatment for "the blues" (as Granpappy Yeti called them) is to enjoy a quiet evening on the front porch, polishing your bootstraps while enjoying a cool tailbreeze.
Quote from: R-V on August 25, 2009, 09:04:53 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 24, 2009, 11:00:05 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on August 24, 2009, 06:10:17 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 24, 2009, 04:03:28 PM
Quote from: IrishYeti on August 24, 2009, 03:06:07 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/basketball/nba/08/24/michael.beasley.ap/index.html
I'd rather the Bulls have a test cheater than a Khalil wannabe
That's our Yeti!
Nothing like a good depression joke.
Oh, am I supposed to feel sorry for someone who's probably been handed everything in life?
EDIT: Probably not the best choice of words, but fuck it. I don't give a shit that he's depressed. He can fuck himself.
I don't get IrishYeti's unnecessary hostility at all.
Whatever happened to personal responsibility? In Yeti's day, when a medical doctor diagnosed you with clinical depression and suggested some sort of "treatment" or "prescription", you slugged that damn fool in his lily-livered face. Any clod knows the best treatment for "the blues" (as Granpappy Yeti called them) is to enjoy a quiet evening on the front porch, polishing your bootstraps while enjoying a cool tailbreeze.
I don't get this R-V unnecessary incorrectness at all
Season starts tonight, female escorts.
All the matchups are interesting, too.
Anyone here in JD's league on ESPN besides me and him? Let's throw some poo at each other.
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 27, 2009, 12:00:34 PM
Season starts tonight, female escorts.
All the matchups are interesting, too.
Anyone here in JD's league on ESPN besides me and him? Let's throw some poo at each other.
I bowed out when he moved the league from Yahoo to ESPN.
BOOO, JD.
Boo.
Quote from: PenFoe on October 27, 2009, 12:02:51 PM
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 27, 2009, 12:00:34 PM
Season starts tonight, female escorts.
All the matchups are interesting, too.
Anyone here in JD's league on ESPN besides me and him? Let's throw some poo at each other.
I bowed out when he moved the league from Yahoo to ESPN.
BOOO, JD.
Boo.
I'm in it, but I missed the draft. The Sweaty Hoopleheads got severely boned by the autopick cyborg. I've got the market cornered on ugly white centers though.
Quote from: Slack-E on October 27, 2009, 12:00:34 PM
Season starts tonight, female escorts.
All the matchups are interesting, too.
Anyone here in JD's league on ESPN besides me and him? Let's throw some poo at each other.
I think the Bulls are really going to miss Ben DeRosa.
Quote from: R-V on October 27, 2009, 12:08:02 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 27, 2009, 12:02:51 PM
Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 27, 2009, 12:00:34 PM
Season starts tonight, female escorts.
All the matchups are interesting, too.
Anyone here in JD's league on ESPN besides me and him? Let's throw some poo at each other.
I bowed out when he moved the league from Yahoo to ESPN.
BOOO, JD.
Boo.
I'm in it, but I missed the draft. The Sweaty Hoopleheads got severely boned by the autopick cyborg. I've got the market cornered on ugly white centers though.
Oof - that's never good.
Quote from: Vinny del DumbfuckYou do your job, I'll do mine. Also, Derrick Rose is not our best player at the end of the game.
What a moron. (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=4599244) Skip to about the 9:45 mark of the interview.
I'm just going to pretend Vinny doesn't exist. I'm sure that will work out really well after the Bulls get their nuts stomped by the Spurs and Celtics.
Holy shit the Celtics are good.
Nice to see the Cavs off to a hot start. They really must be anxious to get rid of Lebron.
How about Brook Lopez for MVP?
Quote from: Slack-E on October 29, 2009, 09:00:59 AM
How about Brook Lopez for MVP?
Yeah, he's good. At first I thought he was going to be just another big white stiff, but then I realized he's like Hispanic or something.
Also, I'm calling a Bulls win tonight. 106-102. You heard it here first. We'll see how that goes.
Quote from: Eli on October 29, 2009, 09:19:24 AM
Quote from: Slack-E on October 29, 2009, 09:00:59 AM
How about Brook Lopez for MVP?
Yeah, he's good. At first I thought he was going to be just another big white stiff, but then I realized he's like Hispanic or something.
Also, I'm calling a Bulls win tonight. 106-102. You heard it here first. We'll see how that goes.
I don't have him JD's league but I got him in my other league and I'm glad he's gotten his career best game out of the way instantly. Get ready for disappointment, bitches.
As for the Bulls - yeah, we'll see about that. Maybe this new-fangled VDN is so sick of the critics that he'll shut them all up by coaching a decent game.
Nah.
(so much for forgetting about Vinny)
Quote from: Slack-E on October 29, 2009, 09:23:39 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 29, 2009, 09:19:24 AM
Quote from: Slack-E on October 29, 2009, 09:00:59 AM
How about Brook Lopez for MVP?
Yeah, he's good. At first I thought he was going to be just another big white stiff, but then I realized he's like Hispanic or something.
Also, I'm calling a Bulls win tonight. 106-102. You heard it here first. We'll see how that goes.
I don't have him JD's league but I got him in my other league and I'm glad he's gotten his career best game out of the way instantly. Get ready for disappointment, bitches.
As for the Bulls - yeah, we'll see about that. Maybe this new-fangled VDN is so sick of the critics that he'll shut them all up by coaching a decent game.
Nah.
(so much for forgetting about Vinny)
You made it nearly 24 minutes. It's a start.
Quote from: Eli on October 29, 2009, 09:19:24 AM
Quote from: Slack-E on October 29, 2009, 09:00:59 AM
How about Brook Lopez for MVP?
Yeah, he's good. At first I thought he was going to be just another big white stiff, but then I realized he's like Hispanic or something.
Also, I'm calling a Bulls win tonight. 106-102. You heard it here first. We'll see how that goes.
Spurs looked awfully good against the Hornets last night. I say Bulls lose 94-82, James Johnson dribbles off his foot out of bounds once while DeJuan Blair goes for another double-double while Ivy6 pokes himself in the eye but not really since he'll be watching 30 Rock.
Quote from: Eli on October 29, 2009, 09:19:24 AM
Quote from: Slack-E on October 29, 2009, 09:00:59 AM
How about Brook Lopez for MVP?
Yeah, he's good. At first I thought he was going to be just another big white stiff, but then I realized he's like Hispanic or something.
Also, I'm calling a Bulls win tonight. 106-102. You heard it here first. We'll see how that goes.
Too many points, dummy. Nice start to the season though. The Bulls winning with rebounding and defense (http://www.blogabull.com/2009/10/29/1107151/bulls-92-spurs-85-improved-defense)? I could live with that.
Also, THIS:
(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20091030/capt.0e821cf5a87448a59b129fae612f11ad.spurs_bulls_basketball_cxa401.jpg)
Quote from: R-V on October 30, 2009, 08:42:19 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 29, 2009, 09:19:24 AM
Quote from: Slack-E on October 29, 2009, 09:00:59 AM
How about Brook Lopez for MVP?
Yeah, he's good. At first I thought he was going to be just another big white stiff, but then I realized he's like Hispanic or something.
Also, I'm calling a Bulls win tonight. 106-102. You heard it here first. We'll see how that goes.
Too many points, dummy.
I know. I'm still kicking myself over that. What was I thinking?
Great win for the Bulls though. I thought Luol looked as good as he has in two years, and I was impressed with how they moved the ball on offense. They even managed to beat the Spurs with John Salmons doing his finest Larry Hughes impression. 1-of-9 on three-pointers? Yuck.
Nice win against a veteran team (albeit on the back end of a back-to-back). I liked what I saw, and Taj shook off a rough start to finish with a decent game (6 and 6, though 3 fouls)
.
Andres Nocioni: Scrappy, hustley, drunk (http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/crime/archives/2009/11/kings-forward-n.html).
QuoteSacramento Kings forward Andres Nocioni has been arrested on suspicion of drunk driving.
Nocioni, 29, was arrested by Sacramento Police and booked into Sacramento County Jail at 3:30 this morning, according to a Sacramento County Jail Web site.
A Sacramento police spokesman said that at about 2 a.m. an officer noticed a motorist southbound on 15th Street near L Street whose vehicle was weaving within its lane. The officer stopped the car near Ninth and L streets.
The officer noticed that there was an odor of alcohol when speaking with the driver. Nocioni was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence.
Quote from: Eli on November 05, 2009, 11:32:30 AM
Andres Nocioni: Scrappy, hustley, drunk (http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/crime/archives/2009/11/kings-forward-n.html).
QuoteSacramento Kings forward Andres Nocioni has been arrested on suspicion of drunk driving.
Nocioni, 29, was arrested by Sacramento Police and booked into Sacramento County Jail at 3:30 this morning, according to a Sacramento County Jail Web site.
A Sacramento police spokesman said that at about 2 a.m. an officer noticed a motorist southbound on 15th Street near L Street whose vehicle was weaving within its lane. The officer stopped the car near Ninth and L streets.
The officer noticed that there was an odor of alcohol when speaking with the driver. Nocioni was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence.
In his defense, what else is there to do in Sacramento?
This team might just be decent. They can actually beat good teams. We are all witnesses.
Non-Bulls related, but here's Dwayne Wade nearly ending Anderson Varejao's life:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDok0D97x10&feature=related
Michael Jordan has bought the Bobcats.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2010/02/27/2010-02-27_jordan_buying_controlling_interest_of_bobcats.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2010/02/27/2010-02-27_jordan_buying_controlling_interest_of_bobcats.html)
I don't really care much, but hey, it's NBA news with a tenuous connection to Chicago!
Quote from: CT III on February 27, 2010, 10:37:56 AM
Michael Jordan has bought the Bobcats.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2010/02/27/2010-02-27_jordan_buying_controlling_interest_of_bobcats.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2010/02/27/2010-02-27_jordan_buying_controlling_interest_of_bobcats.html)
I don't really care much, but hey, it's NBA news with a tenuous connection to Chicago!
Oh sure. The guy takes in 1 Bulls game, and now he thinks he can post willy-nilly in the NBA threads. Shame on you, sir.
Quote from: MAD on March 05, 2010, 12:01:45 PM
Quote from: CT III on February 27, 2010, 10:37:56 AM
Michael Jordan has bought the Bobcats.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2010/02/27/2010-02-27_jordan_buying_controlling_interest_of_bobcats.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2010/02/27/2010-02-27_jordan_buying_controlling_interest_of_bobcats.html)
I don't really care much, but hey, it's NBA news with a tenuous connection to Chicago!
Oh sure. The guy takes in 1 Bulls game, and now he thinks he can post willy-nilly in the NBA threads. Shame on you, sir.
I posted this last Saturday, you fool.
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Well, now I don't know what team to follow.
I would stick with the Thundernuggets.
Even though Harden was a questionable pick, there's still a nice nucleus there with Green, Durant and Westbrook.
Seems like Presti knows what he's doing, maybe he truly feels that Westbrook is the guy they want with the ball and didn't want to let a 17 year old Spanish kid take over the offense.
Not sure he's right and I don't think Harden's going to be a great pro.....never mind, it was a shitty pick.
Rubio and his dad are already trying to call the shots. The ThunderNuggets did ok.
Even if not Rubio, seems like Curry over Harden would make sense.
CURRY and Rubio are special. Harden is, most definitely, not. Some players have a little extra something in their step. A hop. It makes everyone watching the game focus on them. That's Rubio. That's CURRY. Okie City had a chance to take either of 'em and they took freaking Morris Peterson. I want the star. I want the exciting guy. Basketball's supposed to be entertaining. Entertain me. I'm selfish like that. AND, to top it off, Rubio and CURRY go to 2 turr-ble teams. Minnesota drafted point guards back to back. Are you kidding me? They can't play together. I rarely agree with Dickie V anymore(probably because I generally ignore what he says), but he was exactly right when he said that was the sort of thing that gets coaches fired. Luckily, Minnesota doesn't have a coach. And don't take that as a slight against Flynn. I like him. Then, CURRY ends up in Golden State. Will I ever see him play now? No. Plus, he'll be in the same backcourt as Monta Ellis and beside Stephen Jackson. I don't care that Nelson's there. Nelson's old and gettin' senile. Seriously, this draft couldn't have turned out worse. Blake Griffin's knee(one of 'em) will go out sometime in the third preseason game. Rubio's gonna stay in Spain(smart move...stay away from that crazy Minnesota dude). And CURRY's gonna be quickly labeled a bust because he's in a sorry situation. The fact that James Harden played in a college system that was designed to get him points doesn't make me feel better. Julius Hodge averaged almost 20 under Sendek...I don't want him on the team either. It's all just very disappointing.
In my defense, I was right about a whole lot of other stuff in this thread.