Fuck you, you fat fucking piece of shit (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/46799-seattle-mariners-clubhouse-in-turmoil)
QuoteRecently many of these frustrations have been coming to a head, and players have begun throwing each other under the bus publicly.
This all started about a week ago when Carlos Silva mouthed off to the media about how the pitchers have all been showing up focused, and ready to go, while the batters are playing lackadaisically.
Really? The batters are to blame for you being possibly the worst starting pitcher in the major leagues. You lead the AL in losses, and have a dispicable ERA of 5.93. I would say you should look in the mirror before blaming others for your shortcomings.
Silva was brought in to be a veteran leader in the clubhouse, and to solidify the pitching staff. Leaders typically do not blame other players on the team publicly. Generally, they lead by example, take due blame, or if needed to, call out players behind closed doors.
Nice choice, Jim.
Quote from: Yeti on December 18, 2009, 12:14:39 PM
Fuck you, you fat fucking piece of shit (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/46799-seattle-mariners-clubhouse-in-turmoil)
QuoteRecently many of these frustrations have been coming to a head, and players have begun throwing each other under the bus publicly.
This all started about a week ago when Carlos Silva mouthed off to the media about how the pitchers have all been showing up focused, and ready to go, while the batters are playing lackadaisically.
Really? The batters are to blame for you being possibly the worst starting pitcher in the major leagues. You lead the AL in losses, and have a dispicable ERA of 5.93. I would say you should look in the mirror before blaming others for your shortcomings.
Silva was brought in to be a veteran leader in the clubhouse, and to solidify the pitching staff. Leaders typically do not blame other players on the team publicly. Generally, they lead by example, take due blame, or if needed to, call out players behind closed doors.
Nice choice, Jim.
Seconded.
Quote from: Yeti on December 18, 2009, 12:14:39 PM
Fuck you, you fat fucking piece of shit (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/46799-seattle-mariners-clubhouse-in-turmoil)
QuoteRecently many of these frustrations have been coming to a head, and players have begun throwing each other under the bus publicly.
This all started about a week ago when Carlos Silva mouthed off to the media about how the pitchers have all been showing up focused, and ready to go, while the batters are playing lackadaisically.
Really? The batters are to blame for you being possibly the worst starting pitcher in the major leagues. You lead the AL in losses, and have a dispicable ERA of 5.93. I would say you should look in the mirror before blaming others for your shortcomings.
Silva was brought in to be a veteran leader in the clubhouse, and to solidify the pitching staff. Leaders typically do not blame other players on the team publicly. Generally, they lead by example, take due blame, or if needed to, call out players behind closed doors.
Nice choice, Jim.
So we're replacing a hitter who runs his mouth, is a "clubhouse cancer", butts heads with the team and fans, and basically is an all-around douche with a pitcher who also runs his mouth, is also a "clubhouse cancer", who also butts heads with the team and fans, and is also an all-around douche. Great. Yes, this is much better.
Fuck this fat fucking retard.
Quote from: C-C-Cats on December 18, 2009, 12:21:24 PM
Quote from: Yeti on December 18, 2009, 12:14:39 PM
Fuck you, you fat fucking piece of shit (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/46799-seattle-mariners-clubhouse-in-turmoil)
QuoteRecently many of these frustrations have been coming to a head, and players have begun throwing each other under the bus publicly.
This all started about a week ago when Carlos Silva mouthed off to the media about how the pitchers have all been showing up focused, and ready to go, while the batters are playing lackadaisically.
Really? The batters are to blame for you being possibly the worst starting pitcher in the major leagues. You lead the AL in losses, and have a dispicable ERA of 5.93. I would say you should look in the mirror before blaming others for your shortcomings.
Silva was brought in to be a veteran leader in the clubhouse, and to solidify the pitching staff. Leaders typically do not blame other players on the team publicly. Generally, they lead by example, take due blame, or if needed to, call out players behind closed doors.
Nice choice, Jim.
So we're replacing a hitter who runs his mouth, is a "clubhouse cancer", butts heads with the team and fans, and basically is an all-around douche with a pitcher who also runs his mouth, is also a "clubhouse cancer", who also butts heads with the team and fans, and is also an all-around douche. Great. Yes, this is much better.
I'm glad Yeti found that article about him. I couldn't remember if that fat fuck had gotten a DUI or what, but I knew he was as a flaming bag of douche.
http://www.mlbnotebook.com/2009-articles/april/carlos_silva_is_mean.html
QuoteCarlos Silva came out of the training room and I asked how his back was. He'd had spasms a night earlier, come out of the game after gritting his teeth on each pitch the final two innings - and Silva had won.
So I asked the question, and he ignored me and kept walking. Sometimes, players are focused and don't hear you. Sometimes, they ignore you.
A few minutes later, Silva walked back across the clubhouse and as he passed, I asked again, 'How's your back this morning?'
"Good," he said, and kept moving.
Not exactly expansive, but straight forward. About two minutes later, MLB.com writer Jim Street entered the clubhouse and glanced around, then asked who was winning the card game. We beat guys don't miss a thing.
"They both are," I told him.
Street saw Silva across the room and asked me, "How's Carlos feeling?"
I told him Carlos might not be in a talkative mood, explaining our brief conversation. Silva came walking over, angry.
"If you have something to say to me, say it to me, don't tell him," he said. "You're always stirring up poo."
Ok, he didn't say poo. Close enough.
"I was trying to save him and you time," I told Silva.
"You're always stirring up poo," he said. "That's why I don't talk to you."
I stared at him. A confused beat guy does that. Carlos had never not talked to me before.
"Don't ever ask me for another interview," Silva said and walked away.
I turned to Street.
"See what you started?" I asked. I thought about accusing him of stirring up poo.
And that, sometimes, is life in the clubhouse.
Quote from: Yeti on December 18, 2009, 12:41:32 PM
http://www.mlbnotebook.com/2009-articles/april/carlos_silva_is_mean.html
QuoteCarlos Silva came out of the training room and I asked how his back was. He'd had spasms a night earlier, come out of the game after gritting his teeth on each pitch the final two innings - and Silva had won.
So I asked the question, and he ignored me and kept walking. Sometimes, players are focused and don't hear you. Sometimes, they ignore you.
A few minutes later, Silva walked back across the clubhouse and as he passed, I asked again, 'How's your back this morning?'
"Good," he said, and kept moving.
Not exactly expansive, but straight forward. About two minutes later, MLB.com writer Jim Street entered the clubhouse and glanced around, then asked who was winning the card game. We beat guys don't miss a thing.
"They both are," I told him.
Street saw Silva across the room and asked me, "How's Carlos feeling?"
I told him Carlos might not be in a talkative mood, explaining our brief conversation. Silva came walking over, angry.
"If you have something to say to me, say it to me, don't tell him," he said. "You're always stirring up poo."
Ok, he didn't say poo. Close enough.
"I was trying to save him and you time," I told Silva.
"You're always stirring up poo," he said. "That's why I don't talk to you."
I stared at him. A confused beat guy does that. Carlos had never not talked to me before.
"Don't ever ask me for another interview," Silva said and walked away.
I turned to Street.
"See what you started?" I asked. I thought about accusing him of stirring up poo.
And that, sometimes, is life in the clubhouse.
Don't trash BH's savior like that.
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 12:48:17 PM
Quote from: Yeti on December 18, 2009, 12:41:32 PM
http://www.mlbnotebook.com/2009-articles/april/carlos_silva_is_mean.html
QuoteCarlos Silva came out of the training room and I asked how his back was. He'd had spasms a night earlier, come out of the game after gritting his teeth on each pitch the final two innings - and Silva had won.
So I asked the question, and he ignored me and kept walking. Sometimes, players are focused and don't hear you. Sometimes, they ignore you.
A few minutes later, Silva walked back across the clubhouse and as he passed, I asked again, 'How's your back this morning?'
"Good," he said, and kept moving.
Not exactly expansive, but straight forward. About two minutes later, MLB.com writer Jim Street entered the clubhouse and glanced around, then asked who was winning the card game. We beat guys don't miss a thing.
"They both are," I told him.
Street saw Silva across the room and asked me, "How's Carlos feeling?"
I told him Carlos might not be in a talkative mood, explaining our brief conversation. Silva came walking over, angry.
"If you have something to say to me, say it to me, don't tell him," he said. "You're always stirring up poo."
Ok, he didn't say poo. Close enough.
"I was trying to save him and you time," I told Silva.
"You're always stirring up poo," he said. "That's why I don't talk to you."
I stared at him. A confused beat guy does that. Carlos had never not talked to me before.
"Don't ever ask me for another interview," Silva said and walked away.
I turned to Street.
"See what you started?" I asked. I thought about accusing him of stirring up poo.
And that, sometimes, is life in the clubhouse.
Don't trash BH's savior like that.
Yeti forgot to include this part.
"And Carlos Silva WON'T stop playing Kings of Leon's new album in the clubhouse. Ichiro has asked him to turn off that poo several times."
My new goal for 2010 is to get close enough to the field so I can berate Carlos Silva so badly that I get banned from Wrigley for life and he goes home and puts his head in the oven.
Here's what I've got so far: Ugueth Urbina is going to chop off your mom's head with a machete and then light you on fire.
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 01:03:26 PM
Here's what I've got so far: Ugueth Urbina is going to chop off your mom's head with a machete and then light you on fire.
Keep this up and I'll join you.
I hope a stray raccoon crawls into his home and gnaws his dick off in his sleep.
I want to kick Jim Hendry in the balls so hard that they just instantly explode and leak out of his urethra in a nasty, nasty fluid.
And Carlos Silva? Fuck that fat fuck.
So, I guess that instead of collecting 2nd basemen or left-handed hitters, Hendry is going to try and corner the market on fat guys named Carlos this year?
I didn't want to read or post in this thread because doing so acknowledges the reality of this shitty deal.
But seriously...fuck.
I want Pat Burrell.
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 01:03:26 PM
Here's what I've got so far: Ugueth Urbina is going to chop off your mom's head with a machete and then light you on fire.
Hey Carlos, your wife was just in a horrible accident. She's in a coma now.
Does Silva have a fiance with a pickup truck?
Quote from: R-V on December 18, 2009, 01:14:52 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 01:03:26 PM
Here's what I've got so far: Ugueth Urbina is going to chop off your mom's head with a machete and then light you on fire.
Hey Carlos, your wife was just in a horrible accident. She's in a coma now.
And then I had sex with her.
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 01:17:15 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 18, 2009, 01:14:52 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 01:03:26 PM
Here's what I've got so far: Ugueth Urbina is going to chop off your mom's head with a machete and then light you on fire.
Hey Carlos, your wife was just in a horrible accident. She's in a coma now.
And then I had sex with her.
Also, about your kids. Turns out Ruben Quevedo is the father.
Isn't all of your angst going to be taken care of by Carlos Z? He won't stand it for it. Oh no.
There is some Grade-A quality hatred going on here.
Well done fellas.
I say we grab him, pants him, pour honey all over his buttcrack, taint and ballsack, then sit him bare-assed in a colony of fire ants.
Quote from: R-V on December 18, 2009, 01:21:38 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 01:17:15 PM
Quote from: R-V on December 18, 2009, 01:14:52 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 01:03:26 PM
Here's what I've got so far: Ugueth Urbina is going to chop off your mom's head with a machete and then light you on fire.
Hey Carlos, your wife was just in a horrible accident. She's in a coma now.
And then I had sex with her.
Also, about your kids. Turns out Ruben Quevedo Hector Villanueva is the father.
Slightly more biologically plausible'd.
Quote from: CT III on December 18, 2009, 01:13:57 PM
So, I guess that instead of collecting 2nd basemen or left-handed hitters, Hendry is going to try and corner the market on fat guys named Carlos this year?
Carlos Lee is next. All part of the plan.
Quote from: Eli on December 18, 2009, 02:40:39 PM
Quote from: CT III on December 18, 2009, 01:13:57 PM
So, I guess that instead of collecting 2nd basemen or left-handed hitters, Hendry is going to try and corner the market on fat guys named Carlos this year?
Carlos Lee is next. All part of the plan.
Just keep Mencia the fuck away from Chicago.
The Cubs don't by chance host the Mariners in interleague play next year do they?
Quote from: Armchair_QB on December 18, 2009, 02:52:02 PM
The Cubs don't by chance host the Mariners in interleague play next year do they?
Lucky for Milt, that series is in Seattle.
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 02:58:08 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on December 18, 2009, 02:52:02 PM
The Cubs don't by chance host the Mariners in interleague play next year do they?
Lucky for Milt, that series is in Seattle.
Damn, there would have been a LaTroy Hawkins Return-level of bile at Wrigley if the Mariners were in town this season.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on December 18, 2009, 03:49:44 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 02:58:08 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on December 18, 2009, 02:52:02 PM
The Cubs don't by chance host the Mariners in interleague play next year do they?
Lucky for Milt, that series is in Seattle.
Damn, there would have been a LaTroy Hawkins Return-level of bile at Wrigley if the Mariners were in town this season.
Can you imagine that series at Wrigley if the Mariners ended up with DeRosa too? That God that won't happen. I would have to swear off baseball forever.
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 18, 2009, 04:46:10 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on December 18, 2009, 03:49:44 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on December 18, 2009, 02:58:08 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on December 18, 2009, 02:52:02 PM
The Cubs don't by chance host the Mariners in interleague play next year do they?
Lucky for Milt, that series is in Seattle.
Damn, there would have been a LaTroy Hawkins Return-level of bile at Wrigley if the Mariners were in town this season.
Can you imagine that series at Wrigley if the Mariners ended up with DeRosa too? That God that won't happen. I would have to swear off baseball forever.
It'd be a slumpbuster convention.
Fire Jim Hendry?
Maybe Silva will get hit in the eye socket with a baseball. The force of the ball entering his socket would be so great that the ball would be forever fused with his skull, thus he would forever have a baseball instead of an eye. Then we could make fun of his mom.
ANGRY ANGER RED-FACED ANGRY ANGER RAGE HATRED ANGER PISSED-OFFEDNESS KICK-A-PUPPY ANGRY SWEATY-FOREHEAD ANGER
Studly (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-contact-tales-2004)
QuoteThe Worst:
Carlos Silva 90%
Ismael Valdez 88.9%
Jimmy Gobble 88.7%
Kirk Rueter 88.6%
Aaron Sele 87.9%
Speaking of poor contracts ... here's the scary thing: Silva not only tops this contact rate in 2005, but he does even worse at missing bats in 2009. Yeah, Silva at his best gets groundballs and avoids walks – and yes, that is a successful formula – but at the same time, Silva posted xFIP of 3.94, 4.81, and 4.57 before signing his four-year, $48M poison pill that the Cubs swallowed. Nick Blackburn can only hope Bill Bavasi is a general manager when he reaches free agency.
What's xFAP? Some sort of made-up masturbatory stat?
Quote from: Eli on January 11, 2010, 10:18:26 AM
What's xFAP? Some sort of made-up masturbatory stat?
That would be xFWAPFWAP
Quote from: Yeti on January 11, 2010, 10:34:53 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 11, 2010, 10:18:26 AM
What's xFAP? Some sort of made-up masturbatory stat?
That would be xFWAPFWAP
I'd like to see one of those faggstats that can show how good Silva will be once Rothschild fixes him! He's like a swarthy Latino Glendon Rusch!
Quote from: Yeti on January 11, 2010, 10:15:39 AM
Studly (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-contact-tales-2004)
QuoteThe Worst:
Carlos Silva 90%
Ismael Valdez 88.9%
Jimmy Gobble 88.7%
Kirk Rueter 88.6%
Aaron Sele 87.9%
Speaking of poor contracts ... here's the scary thing: Silva not only tops this contact rate in 2005, but he does even worse at missing bats in 2009. Yeah, Silva at his best gets groundballs and avoids walks – and yes, that is a successful formula – but at the same time, Silva posted xFIP of 3.94, 4.81, and 4.57 before signing his four-year, $48M poison pill that the Cubs swallowed. Nick Blackburn can only hope Bill Bavasi is a general manager when he reaches free agency.
I read that post and I don't really understand what they're trying to say or show with the percentages. Best and worst what? Is there some other post that explains what they're trying to say?
Quote from: Oleg on January 11, 2010, 11:54:15 AM
Quote from: Yeti on January 11, 2010, 10:15:39 AM
Studly (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-contact-tales-2004)
QuoteThe Worst:
Carlos Silva 90%
Ismael Valdez 88.9%
Jimmy Gobble 88.7%
Kirk Rueter 88.6%
Aaron Sele 87.9%
Speaking of poor contracts ... here's the scary thing: Silva not only tops this contact rate in 2005, but he does even worse at missing bats in 2009. Yeah, Silva at his best gets groundballs and avoids walks – and yes, that is a successful formula – but at the same time, Silva posted xFIP of 3.94, 4.81, and 4.57 before signing his four-year, $48M poison pill that the Cubs swallowed. Nick Blackburn can only hope Bill Bavasi is a general manager when he reaches free agency.
I read that post and I don't really understand what they're trying to say or show with the percentages. Best and worst what? Is there some other post that explains what they're trying to say?
I thought you statfags were all in agreement.
NERDFIGHT!
Quote from: MAD on January 11, 2010, 12:10:42 PM
Quote from: Oleg on January 11, 2010, 11:54:15 AM
Quote from: Yeti on January 11, 2010, 10:15:39 AM
Studly (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-contact-tales-2004)
QuoteThe Worst:
Carlos Silva 90%
Ismael Valdez 88.9%
Jimmy Gobble 88.7%
Kirk Rueter 88.6%
Aaron Sele 87.9%
Speaking of poor contracts ... here's the scary thing: Silva not only tops this contact rate in 2005, but he does even worse at missing bats in 2009. Yeah, Silva at his best gets groundballs and avoids walks – and yes, that is a successful formula – but at the same time, Silva posted xFIP of 3.94, 4.81, and 4.57 before signing his four-year, $48M poison pill that the Cubs swallowed. Nick Blackburn can only hope Bill Bavasi is a general manager when he reaches free agency.
I read that post and I don't really understand what they're trying to say or show with the percentages. Best and worst what? Is there some other post that explains what they're trying to say?
I thought you statfags were all in agreement.
NERDFIGHT!
It is? Well, I guess I'll have to pop Oleg in the back of the head when he starts making out with some chick this Friday.
Anyway, they've been doing a little series on the contact percentages over the years. They started in 02 and have made their way through 04. I just found it funny how much Silva got pounded (by making no one miss at his pitches) and yet Seattle signed him to his 4/48 contract after this season.
Quote from: SKO on January 11, 2010, 10:38:10 AM
Quote from: Yeti on January 11, 2010, 10:34:53 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 11, 2010, 10:18:26 AM
What's xFAP? Some sort of made-up masturbatory stat?
That would be xFWAPFWAP
I'd like to see one of those faggstats that can show how good Silva will be once Rothschild fixes him! He's like a swarthy Latino Glendon Rusch!
If Rothschild does manage to fix him, I would think that'd be grounds for the Cubs to retain him for quite some time, and hell, even retire his number. (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/01/source-cubs-would-retire-dawsons-number.html) A guy who doesn't know what K is besides his bra size being a viable asset on a strikeout staff? That would be something.
Quote from: Oleg on January 11, 2010, 11:54:15 AM
I read that post and I don't really understand what they're trying to say or show with the percentages. Best and worst what? Is there some other post that explains what they're trying to say?
Contact Percentage (Contact) – The percentage of times a batter hits the ball when he swings the bat.
In this case, the contact % for batters faced. Obviously lower % is better, but you can't really look at it
in a vacuum because there's a balance w/ throwing strikes, how good of contact batters make, and what
not. In general, if you contact % is approaching the same as a home run derby pitcher, it's a bad sign.
Quote from: Pre on January 11, 2010, 12:31:06 PM
Quote from: Oleg on January 11, 2010, 11:54:15 AM
I read that post and I don't really understand what they're trying to say or show with the percentages. Best and worst what? Is there some other post that explains what they're trying to say?
Contact Percentage (Contact) – The percentage of times a batter hits the ball when he swings the bat.
In this case, the contact % for batters faced. Obviously lower % is better, but you can't really look at it
in a vacuum because there's a balance w/ throwing strikes, how good of contact batters make, and what
not. In general, if you contact % is approaching the same as a home run derby pitcher, it's a bad sign.
God damnit! I read that as
contract percentage! I had no idea what they were talking about. Now, it all makes sense and the world is whole again.
I'm a fucking dope.
The only stat involving Carlos Silva that I anybody should find encouraging would be 0 innings pitched.
Quote from: Pre on January 11, 2010, 12:31:06 PM
Quote from: Oleg on January 11, 2010, 11:54:15 AM
I read that post and I don't really understand what they're trying to say or show with the percentages. Best and worst what? Is there some other post that explains what they're trying to say?
Contact Percentage (Contact) – The percentage of times a batter hits the ball when he swings the bat.
In this case, the contact % for batters faced. Obviously lower % is better, but you can't really look at it
in a vacuum because there's a balance w/ throwing strikes, how good of contact batters make, and what
not. In general, if you contact % is approaching the same as a home run derby pitcher, it's a bad sign.
Contact% is the percentage of plate appearances where the final outcome was a ball in play. A batter can swing/miss on two pitches, but if he grounds out to short (or lines a hit to short left) on the third, his contact% is 100--not 33.
Edit: Nevermind. That's incorrect. As you were.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-worst-contract-in-baseball
It's pretty sweet that we have 2 out of the 4 guys on this list.
"I was having a debate a few days ago across twitter with some folks and figured it worth bringing up here. Evan Longoria is likely the best contract in baseball. It's just obscene, in a good way, for the Rays. But who is the worst? Not talking about ever, or worst at the time, just worst as it stands right now in January of 2010. Which player would you least like on your team going forward, or who do you think would be the most difficult to trade?
I would have nominated Carlos Silva, but apparently he wasn't that difficult to trade, thank you Cubs, and it would have been more of a biased suggestion than a real one. It's an awful contract, but it does only have two years left on it. No, I think in the debate for worst contract left in baseball, it comes down to three contenders.
Barry Zito has four guaranteed years left on his contract with a total payout of $76 million and then either an $18 million club option or a $7 million buyout for a minimum for $83 million left to be paid. He also comes with a full no-trade clause. Zito, as mentioned yesterday, has produced 5.3 WAR so far for San Francisco. At least he is sort of trending upwards?
Going back to the Cubs, Alfonso Soriano has five years, a full no-trade clause and $90 million left on his deal. He started off promising with a 5.6 win season in 2007 but fell to 3.1 wins in 2008 and then a horrendous -0.7 last year. The defense has taken about a 15-run hit each consecutive year and the offense has been trending downward as well.
Vernon Wells also has the benefit of a full no-trade clause and due to his protracted signing bonus, is actually owed a whopping $107 million over the remaining five years of his contract. Since his 5.8 win 2006 season, after which his extension was signed, Wells has been worth 0.9, 1.3 and -0.1 wins. His offense has always been sporadic, but his fielding has really taken a hit lately, being well below average the last two seasons.
So, weighing those, who is worst, Zito, Wells or Soriano? Or is there someone else that you think is even more of a dead weight?"
This thread is going to really hit its stride once we start seeing actual games. Can't wait.
Quote from: Slack-E on January 21, 2010, 05:38:15 PM
This thread is going to really hit its stride once we start seeing actual games. Can't wait.
Yes, but will it approach "Clusterfuck" proportions?
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on January 21, 2010, 05:52:53 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 21, 2010, 05:38:15 PM
This thread is going to really hit its stride once we start seeing actual games. Can't wait.
Yes, but will it approach "Clusterfuck" proportions?
I won't lock it. All the Fucking Youing of Carlos Silva will be welcome
Quote from: Yeti on January 21, 2010, 07:36:05 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on January 21, 2010, 05:52:53 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 21, 2010, 05:38:15 PM
This thread is going to really hit its stride once we start seeing actual games. Can't wait.
Yes, but will it approach "Clusterfuck" proportions?
I won't lock it. All the Fucking Youing of Carlos Silva will be welcome
Yeah, I don't wanna hear any of this ledge jumper bullshit either. Carlos Silva sucks and he's always going to suck. My friend mentioned him today and stopped himself short of saying he's hoping Silva resurrects himself. He quickly realized that you can't resurrect yourself if you've never been good.
I plan to have no mercy on this fat jerkoff. I hope, for your sakes, that I can be a little more clever and interesting about it than our old pal Lonestar was on a day to day basis.
I'm kind of looking forward to watching Silva pitch.
Of course also slow down to stare at really gruesome car accidents too.
O/U ERA -- 5.76
I think Wrigley Field will help him. To a fat ol' 5.94. O
I don't know how much I'll manage to care about him. I guess when he's a huge asshole
in addition to the sucking then I'll have some hate. But he's going to suck. We all know
he's going to suck.
If the Cubs actually manage to not suck next year, then every Silva inning will anger me,
but if they live down to my Lowered Expectations (<-- that would be a fancy url to a picture
of Ronnie fucking WooWoo in his fucking single Michael Jackson white glove from the Cub
convention if the internet could handle my metaphors), then who the fuck cares who the
5th starter is? Might as well let Samardzija and Silva take turns and take bets on who can
give up more homeruns.
Quote from: Pre on January 21, 2010, 10:07:40 PM
I don't know how much I'll manage to care about him. I guess when he's a huge asshole
in addition to the sucking then I'll have some hate. But he's going to suck. We all know
he's going to suck.
If the Cubs actually manage to not suck next year, then every Silva inning will anger me,
but if they live down to my Lowered Expectations (<-- that would be a fancy url to a picture
of Ronnie fucking WooWoo in his fucking single Michael Jackson white glove from the Cub
convention if the internet could handle my metaphors), then who the fuck cares who the
5th starter is? Might as well let Samardzija and Silva take turns and take bets on who can
give up more homeruns.
If I were to actually give a shit, I think I would hope he gets booed so hard he ends up retiring.
Quote from: Yeti on January 21, 2010, 07:36:05 PM
Quote from: Gil Gunderson on January 21, 2010, 05:52:53 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 21, 2010, 05:38:15 PM
This thread is going to really hit its stride once we start seeing actual games. Can't wait.
Yes, but will it approach "Clusterfuck" proportions?
I won't lock it. All the Fucking Youing of Carlos Silva will be welcome
(http://chimeraobscura.com/vm/images/pew.jpg)
Bump.
Quote from: Yeti on February 25, 2010, 04:16:36 PM
Bump.
[Fork]Given his size, shouldn't that be "Lump?"[/Fork]
Bump.
Quote@PWSullivan Blake Lalli nearly impales Silva with broken bat in b.p. Near miss
Quote from: Slack-E on March 02, 2010, 12:10:08 PM
Bump.
Quote@PWSullivan Blake Lalli nearly impales Silva with broken bat in b.p. Near miss
So close...
Quote from: D. Doluntap on March 02, 2010, 12:13:24 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on March 02, 2010, 12:10:08 PM
Bump.
Quote@PWSullivan Blake Lalli nearly impales Silva with broken bat in b.p. Near miss
So close...
Try, try again.
While writing from his parents' laundry room, CrazyMLBRumorguy says:
QuoteWhich Overpaid Veterans Could Be Released?...Carlos Silva, Cubs: two years, $25MM. Though the Cubs are only on the hook for $16MM of Silva's contract, it still may make sense to cut him if he shows nothing in Spring Training.
Lame.
I'm extremely disappointed. However, I appreciate the fact that he gave me a nice laugh
Bump.
I was going to rant about Carlos Silva's predictable performance (Pat Hughes during the first inning today characterized his 2009 ERA as "beefy") .
Then I decided that I'd rather present the tits of Christina Hendricks;
(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0dd27b3127ccef9d99652389a00000030O01QYtmbduxZA9vPho/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/)
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on March 06, 2010, 03:11:01 PM
I was going to rant about Carlos Silva's predictable performance (Pat Hughes during the first inning today characterized his 2009 ERA as "beefy") .
Then I decided that I'd rather present the tits of Christina Hendricks;
(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0dd27b3127ccef9d99652389a00000030O01QYtmbduxZA9vPho/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/)
A wise choice.
Who's fatter Carlos Silva or Kyle Wellwood?
Quote from: BBM on March 06, 2010, 03:21:09 PM
Who's fatter Carlos Silva or Kyle Wellwood?
A: Huey's mom.
Say what you will about my feelings about who they traded away for him, but acquiring that piece of shit was fucking retarded even if they gave up Sam Fuld for him. My one disappointment in regards to Silva is that he won't be around for bumpage of this thread during the season
Quote from: Yeti on March 06, 2010, 03:33:55 PM
Say what you will about my feelings about who they traded away for him, but acquiring that piece of shit was fucking retarded even if they gave up Sam Fuld for him. My one disappointment in regards to Silva is that he won't be around for bumpage of this thread during the season
I agree. It is a good thing that the Cubs didn't trade Sam Fuld for Carlos Silva.
Quote from: Yeti on March 06, 2010, 03:33:55 PM
Say what you will about my feelings about who they traded away for him, but acquiring that piece of shit was fucking retarded even if they gave up Sam Fuld for him.
I think giving up Sam Fuld for Silva would have been even more retarded than giving up Bradley.
Quote from: Yeti on March 06, 2010, 03:33:55 PM
My one disappointment in regards to Silva is that he won't be around for bumpage of this thread during the season
For reals? The one thing I like about him is that he is on pace to not make the team.
It makes a lot of things clearer to me knowing that you're more excited about the idea
of bumping a negative thread on an internet message board than the idea of having a
decent 5th starter.
Quote from: Pre on March 06, 2010, 06:05:03 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 06, 2010, 03:33:55 PM
My one disappointment in regards to Silva is that he won't be around for bumpage of this thread during the season
For reals? The one thing I like about him is that he is on pace to not make the team.
It makes a lot of things clearer to me knowing that you're more excited about the idea
of bumping a negative thread on an internet message board than the idea of having a
decent 5th starter.
Is he really in danger of getting cut? I assumed they'd keep him around no matter what but I haven't been paying attention to the games yet.
Quote from: Slack-E on March 06, 2010, 06:07:24 PM
Is he really in danger of getting cut? I assumed they'd keep him around no matter what but I haven't been paying attention to the games yet.
Well, his 6 runs in 2 innings couldn't have helped. I don't know how the Rickets will
handle situations like this with sunken costs, but on the telecast Len&Bob were throwing
him under the bus for being fat and lazy which generally isn't a good sign for the player's
career with the Cubs.
I'm sure he'll be this year's Patton, but it's spring and I can delude myself.
Quote from: Pre on March 06, 2010, 06:20:26 PM
I'm sure he'll be this year's Patton...
Not sure I get you...
(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5524/slide1zm.jpg)
Quote from: D. Doluntap on March 06, 2010, 10:54:01 PM
Quote from: Pre on March 06, 2010, 06:20:26 PM
I'm sure he'll be this year's Patton...
Not sure I get you...
(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5524/slide1zm.jpg)
I don't get this Kurt Evans photoshop at all.
He pitches like crap through a goose?
Seems to reflect some sort of pathological ideation regarding epaulets.
Quote from: Pre on March 06, 2010, 06:05:03 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 06, 2010, 03:33:55 PM
My one disappointment in regards to Silva is that he won't be around for bumpage of this thread during the season
For reals? The one thing I like about him is that he is on pace to not make the team.
It makes a lot of things clearer to me knowing that you're more excited about the idea
of bumping a negative thread on an internet message board than the idea of having a
decent 5th starter.
I think he's disappointed about not being able to bump a thread with Christina Hendricks' hogans.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 06, 2010, 11:40:35 PM
I think he's disappointed about not being able to bump a thread with Christina Hendricks' hogans.
(http://www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com/pictures/20100303/Christina%20Hendricks%20The%20Stylist%20Project/t/Christina-Hendricks-Vanity%20Fair-0thumb.jpg)
Just stay away from her sans-makeup face.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 07, 2010, 12:47:51 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 06, 2010, 11:40:35 PM
I think he's disappointed about not being able to bump a thread with Christina Hendricks' hogans.
(http://www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com/pictures/20100303/Christina%20Hendricks%20The%20Stylist%20Project/t/Christina-Hendricks-Vanity%20Fair-0thumb.jpg)
Just stay away from her sans-makeup face.
Why? Because she's still good looking?
Quote from: Pre on March 06, 2010, 06:05:03 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 06, 2010, 03:33:55 PM
My one disappointment in regards to Silva is that he won't be around for bumpage of this thread during the season
For reals? The one thing I like about him is that he is on pace to not make the team.
It makes a lot of things clearer to me knowing that you're more excited about the idea
of bumping a negative thread on an internet message board than the idea of having a
decent 5th starter.
It's clear that I think the Cubs won't be dumb enough to keep him on the roster on Opening Day?
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 07, 2010, 01:12:58 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 07, 2010, 12:47:51 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 06, 2010, 11:40:35 PM
I think he's disappointed about not being able to bump a thread with Christina Hendricks' hogans.
(http://www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com/pictures/20100303/Christina%20Hendricks%20The%20Stylist%20Project/t/Christina-Hendricks-Vanity%20Fair-0thumb.jpg)
Just stay away from her sans-makeup face.
Why? Because she's still good looking?
Seriously. I'd be pretty happy coming home to see that every night. Finding an unflattering photo of a human being is the easiest thing to cherry-pick about someone in the world. And yet Internet Chuck managed to chuck that up. Bra-
vo.
Fuck you Carlos Silva, you fat piece of shit.
Quote from: Day Man on March 07, 2010, 10:26:14 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 07, 2010, 01:12:58 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 07, 2010, 12:47:51 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 06, 2010, 11:40:35 PM
I think he's disappointed about not being able to bump a thread with Christina Hendricks' hogans.
(http://www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com/pictures/20100303/Christina%20Hendricks%20The%20Stylist%20Project/t/Christina-Hendricks-Vanity%20Fair-0thumb.jpg)
Just stay away from her sans-makeup face.
Why? Because she's still good looking?
Seriously. I'd be pretty happy coming home to see that every night. Finding an unflattering photo of a human being is the easiest thing to cherry-pick about someone in the world. And yet Internet Chuck managed to chuck that up. Bra-vo.
This is the reason we let IAN take care of our "ugly pictures of hot women" needs.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on March 08, 2010, 10:30:08 AM
Quote from: Day Man on March 07, 2010, 10:26:14 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 07, 2010, 01:12:58 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 07, 2010, 12:47:51 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 06, 2010, 11:40:35 PM
I think he's disappointed about not being able to bump a thread with Christina Hendricks' hogans.
(http://www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com/pictures/20100303/Christina%20Hendricks%20The%20Stylist%20Project/t/Christina-Hendricks-Vanity%20Fair-0thumb.jpg)
Just stay away from her sans-makeup face.
Why? Because she's still good looking?
Seriously. I'd be pretty happy coming home to see that every night. Finding an unflattering photo of a human being is the easiest thing to cherry-pick about someone in the world. And yet Internet Chuck managed to chuck that up. Bra-vo.
This is the reason we let IAN take care of our "ugly pictures of hot women" needs.
Sans penis, of course.
The fat plug had a good game today. 4 IP, no hits, no runs and 3 ks. No walks either. One HBP marred an otherwise perfect outing.
Damn you.
Quote from: Slack-E on March 16, 2010, 05:28:01 PM
The fat plug had a good game today. 4 IP, no hits, no runs and 3 ks. No walks either. One HBP marred an otherwise perfect outing.
Damn you.
That's 7 straight scoreless...
Carlos Silva will be a Cub. Warm up the vocal chords people. I'm not backing down from anything I said earlier in this thread.
I'm not sure how I'm going to feel if this guy is, you know, good and stuff.
But I'm confident I won't have the chance to find out.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ps99P64mA_E/Sb1R8wDLI6I/AAAAAAAAASg/mMBi8-u-H1Q/s320/Man-Exasperated.jpg)
QuoteCarlos Silva vs. Carlos Zambrano: Who knew this would be a debate? Silva, referred to as a release candidate in this space last week, has been an absolute revelation in his last two starts for the Cubs, throwing a combined seven scoreless innings.
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/your-morning-phil-silva-heyward-hechavaria.html
Quote from: R-V on March 17, 2010, 10:42:36 AM
QuoteCarlos Silva vs. Carlos Zambrano: Who knew this would be a debate? Silva, referred to as a release candidate in this space last week, has been an absolute revelation in his last two starts for the Cubs, throwing a combined seven scoreless innings.
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/your-morning-phil-silva-heyward-hechavaria.html
What a moron.
If I was an opposing manager, anytime in spring training when a team pitched a total PoS like
Silva I'd tell my hitters to make him look good. And I'd tell my pitchers to make garbage like
Millar look good. Sabotage.
Quote from: R-V on March 17, 2010, 10:42:36 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ps99P64mA_E/Sb1R8wDLI6I/AAAAAAAAASg/mMBi8-u-H1Q/s320/Man-Exasperated.jpg)
QuoteCarlos Silva vs. Carlos Zambrano: Who knew this would be a debate? Silva, referred to as a release candidate in this space last week, has been an absolute revelation in his last two starts for the Cubs, throwing a combined seven scoreless innings.
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/your-morning-phil-silva-heyward-hechavaria.html
ANGER!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2010, 11:07:26 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 17, 2010, 10:42:36 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ps99P64mA_E/Sb1R8wDLI6I/AAAAAAAAASg/mMBi8-u-H1Q/s320/Man-Exasperated.jpg)
QuoteCarlos Silva vs. Carlos Zambrano: Who knew this would be a debate? Silva, referred to as a release candidate in this space last week, has been an absolute revelation in his last two starts for the Cubs, throwing a combined seven scoreless innings.
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/your-morning-phil-silva-heyward-hechavaria.html
ANGER!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Absolute revelation"???
Come the fuck on.
It's 7 innings in Spring Training.
The Rangers couldn't hit anything yesterday either...not just vs. Silva.
Quote from: R-V on March 17, 2010, 10:42:36 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ps99P64mA_E/Sb1R8wDLI6I/AAAAAAAAASg/mMBi8-u-H1Q/s320/Man-Exasperated.jpg)
QuoteCarlos Silva vs. Carlos Zambrano: Who knew this would be a debate? Silva, referred to as a release candidate in this space last week, has been an absolute revelation in his last two starts for the Cubs, throwing a combined seven scoreless innings.
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/your-morning-phil-silva-heyward-hechavaria.html
What the hell does Carlos Zambrano have to do with Carlos Silva? I don't understand this Phil Rogers-created battle at all.
Quote from: Eli on March 17, 2010, 11:16:41 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 17, 2010, 10:42:36 AM
QuoteCarlos Silva vs. Carlos Zambrano: Who knew this would be a debate? Silva, referred to as a release candidate in this space last week, has been an absolute revelation in his last two starts for the Cubs, throwing a combined seven scoreless innings.
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/your-morning-phil-silva-heyward-hechavaria.html
What the hell does Carlos Zambrano have to do with Carlos Silva? I don't understand this Phil Rogers-created battle at all.
Both are named Carlos, and there can only be one Carlos on the team.
Quote from: CT III on March 17, 2010, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 17, 2010, 11:16:41 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 17, 2010, 10:42:36 AM
QuoteCarlos Silva vs. Carlos Zambrano: Who knew this would be a debate? Silva, referred to as a release candidate in this space last week, has been an absolute revelation in his last two starts for the Cubs, throwing a combined seven scoreless innings.
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/your-morning-phil-silva-heyward-hechavaria.html
What the hell does Carlos Zambrano have to do with Carlos Silva? I don't understand this Phil Rogers-created battle at all.
Both are named Carlos, and there can only be one Carlos on the team.
I vote for Carlos Marmol, in that case. He makes 1/56th of what the other two do.
"I'm sorry, but you can't be allowed into the Ancient Mystical Society of No Carloses, Mr. Zambrano."
"But you let Carlos Marmol in!"
Quote from: Bort on March 17, 2010, 11:57:14 AM
"I'm sorry, but you can't be allowed into the Ancient Mystical Society of No Carloses, Mr. Zambrano."
"But you let Carlos Marmol in!"
It's no Carloses, plural, we're allowed to have one.
Quote from: CT III on March 17, 2010, 12:02:49 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 17, 2010, 11:57:14 AM
"I'm sorry, but you can't be allowed into the Ancient Mystical Society of No Carloses, Mr. Zambrano."
"But you let Carlos Marmol in!"
It's no Carloses, plural, we're allowed to have one.
(http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/david-kaplan-chicago-sports/CarlosZambrano.jpg)
"This. Ain't. Over."
Let us not forget Carlos the Jackal, who could terrorize all three of our Carloses.
Quote from: CBStew on March 17, 2010, 04:23:21 PM
Let us not forget Carlos the Jackal, who could terrorize all three of our Carloses.
I dunno. Z would probably try to bomb him back.
Quote from: Bort on March 17, 2010, 05:28:27 PM
Quote from: CBStew on March 17, 2010, 04:23:21 PM
Let us not forget Carlos the Jackal, who could terrorize all three of our Carloses.
I dunno. Z would probably try to bomb him back.
(http://i39.tinypic.com/kb3h3l.jpg)
Quote from: PenFoe on March 17, 2010, 06:02:30 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 17, 2010, 05:28:27 PM
Quote from: CBStew on March 17, 2010, 04:23:21 PM
Let us not forget Carlos the Jackal, who could terrorize all three of our Carloses.
I dunno. Z would probably try to bomb him back.
(http://i39.tinypic.com/kb3h3l.jpg)
I love that man with every inch of my soul
Quote from: PenFoe on March 17, 2010, 06:02:30 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 17, 2010, 05:28:27 PM
Quote from: CBStew on March 17, 2010, 04:23:21 PM
Let us not forget Carlos the Jackal, who could terrorize all three of our Carloses.
I dunno. Z would probably try to bomb him back.
(http://i39.tinypic.com/kb3h3l.jpg)
Still absolutely awesome.
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2010, 06:20:02 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on March 17, 2010, 06:02:30 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 17, 2010, 05:28:27 PM
Quote from: CBStew on March 17, 2010, 04:23:21 PM
Let us not forget Carlos the Jackal, who could terrorize all three of our Carloses.
I dunno. Z would probably try to bomb him back.
(http://i39.tinypic.com/kb3h3l.jpg)
I love that man with every inch of my soul
Or at least you would, if you hadn't sold it to ACB.
Apparently this thread will get a lot of activity this month. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=ArjzWf5Y7NkW9rg5iwPnMeARvLYF?slug=ap-cubsrotation)
Every 5th day!
I caught Silva's act in person yesterday from a pretty tits-out seat behind the screen at Ho Ho Kam. I'll say this, the way he dominated handled that Padre split squad unit, I have absolutely no doubt that he would be an absolutely brilliant addition to the Iowa rotation this year.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 28, 2010, 02:56:20 PM
I caught Silva's act in person yesterday from a pretty tits-out seat behind the screen at Ho Ho Kam. I'll say this, the way he dominated handled that Padre split squad unit, I have absolutely no doubt that he would be an absolutely brilliant addition to the Iowa rotation this year.
Godspeed, Ted Lilly. Godspeed.
Carlos does have at least one supporter (http://badnewscubs.wordpress.com/2010/04/01/finally-some-baseball/) out there. Faggots.
Quote from: morpheus on April 02, 2010, 04:06:50 PM
Carlos does have at least one supporter (http://badnewscubs.wordpress.com/2010/04/01/finally-some-baseball/) out there. Faggots.
Oh boy - I had forgotten about that guy.
Quote from: morpheus on April 02, 2010, 04:06:50 PM
Carlos does have at least one supporter (http://badnewscubs.wordpress.com/2010/04/01/finally-some-baseball/) out there. Faggots.
I couldn't get past this:
Quote
Suddenly, spring training means jack shit. Though, finishing spring with a record of at least .500 is meaningful.
That's right out of Maude's playbook.
Should we keep fucking you Carlos Silva until he sucks? Like the Fontenot thing?
Quote from: morpheus on April 02, 2010, 04:06:50 PM
Carlos does have at least one supporter (http://badnewscubs.wordpress.com/2010/04/01/finally-some-baseball/) out there. Faggots.
dylanj reads that site? How appropriate.
*crickets*
Quote from: Yeti on April 16, 2010, 04:36:34 PM
*crickets* Fuck its silent in here.............
D'ur.
Fuck it's silent in here...
Quote from: Yeti on May 01, 2010, 01:55:01 PM
Quote from: BH on April 21, 2010, 08:42:43 PM
Fuck it's silent in here...
Not anymore
This is what it sounds like in here when the wind blows out. Tough day to pitch though. Even Dan Haren labored.
I think Hendry may have backed his way into winning this trade. Even if Silva implodes.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5163297
This dude is really a fuckwad.
Absolute shitstain of a human being.
who the fuck doesn't want to hit cleanup?
Fuck you for going getting 11 Ks today in 7IP, giving up 0 Runs. Now 7-0
I'm starting to think he'll make the All-Star Team.
I'd be surprised, but not shocked, to see Silva win 30 games this year.
Quote from: MAD on June 01, 2010, 02:47:51 PM
I'd be surprised, but not shocked, to see Silva win 30 games this year.
I am surprised, but not shocked, that Huey made me laugh like a common PANK.
Well that took a hell of a lot longer than I expected.
Why in the hell did they think he was healthy enough to pitch tonight? Was there nobody else anywhere? What about Iowa? Anybody down there with significant starting experience? Guess not.
What about Sean Marshall? Because he's good.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 20, 2010, 07:40:52 AM
What about Sean Marshall? Because he's good.
Not stretched out enough though. Which is of course, what she said.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 20, 2010, 07:40:52 AM
What about Sean Marshall? Because he's good.
I love the guy too, but for some reason his ERA is about 1.5-2.0 higher when he starts.
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 20, 2010, 08:10:27 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 20, 2010, 07:40:52 AM
What about Sean Marshall? Because he's good.
Not stretched out enough though. Which is of course, what she said.
(||)
I know he's probably worn down from all of the wear and tear, and his fastball is consequently much more hittable, and he can be kind of a crazy asshole, but I'm thinking this Carlos Zambrano guy might do better than what was given last night, yes?
Quote from: MAD on July 20, 2010, 08:42:23 AM
I know he's probably worn down from all of the wear and tear, and his fastball is consequently much more hittable, and he can be kind of a crazy asshole, but I'm thinking this Carlos Zambrano guy might do better than what was given last night, yes?
Depends on who you ask. Ask a typical Cubs fan, they'll say that Z's Clubhouse Presence doesn't match up with one Silva thus rendering him useless on the mound, and allowing him to give up home run after home run.
Quote from: Yeti on July 20, 2010, 08:51:26 AM
Quote from: MAD on July 20, 2010, 08:42:23 AM
I know he's probably worn down from all of the wear and tear, and his fastball is consequently much more hittable, and he can be kind of a crazy asshole, but I'm thinking this Carlos Zambrano guy might do better than what was given last night, yes?
Depends on who you ask. Ask a typical Cubs fan, they'll say that Z's Clubhouse Presence doesn't match up with one Silva thus rendering him useless on the mound, and allowing him to give up home run after home run.
Let's not ignore the fact that in all honesty, Z may be have become extremely hittable. I'm only arguing that he can't be worse than what Silva's regressing toward for the next 3 months.
Quote from: MAD on July 20, 2010, 08:56:54 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 20, 2010, 08:51:26 AM
Quote from: MAD on July 20, 2010, 08:42:23 AM
I know he's probably worn down from all of the wear and tear, and his fastball is consequently much more hittable, and he can be kind of a crazy asshole, but I'm thinking this Carlos Zambrano guy might do better than what was given last night, yes?
Depends on who you ask. Ask a typical Cubs fan, they'll say that Z's Clubhouse Presence doesn't match up with one Silva thus rendering him useless on the mound, and allowing him to give up home run after home run.
Let's not ignore the fact that in all honesty, Z may be have become extremely hittable. I'm only arguing that he can't be worse than what Silva's regressing toward for the next 3 months.
I think Silva needs a couple weeks to get that problem behind his knee calmed down. I know that watching Cubs baseball is very difficult for most of us to do these days. But what actually happened in real life is that Silva left his start two weeks ago in Phoenix with some sort of pull behind his left(?) knee. There was debate whether he'd make his start vs. L.A. and even in warmups you saw him landing awkwardly on that leg and not bending over (||) and driving through. Consequently pitches lost velocity, hung up in the zone and got whacked (||). So he had the All-Star Break and four days to recover but didn't. It's not like he's regressing to suck, but it's that he's Carlos Silva and something is physically wrong again.
The Cubs need somebody to take a couple of starts so the question remains who or whom or what. I vote Kevin Hart.
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 20, 2010, 10:01:39 AM
Quote from: MAD on July 20, 2010, 08:56:54 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 20, 2010, 08:51:26 AM
Quote from: MAD on July 20, 2010, 08:42:23 AM
I know he's probably worn down from all of the wear and tear, and his fastball is consequently much more hittable, and he can be kind of a crazy asshole, but I'm thinking this Carlos Zambrano guy might do better than what was given last night, yes?
Depends on who you ask. Ask a typical Cubs fan, they'll say that Z's Clubhouse Presence doesn't match up with one Silva thus rendering him useless on the mound, and allowing him to give up home run after home run.
Let's not ignore the fact that in all honesty, Z may be have become extremely hittable. I'm only arguing that he can't be worse than what Silva's regressing toward for the next 3 months.
I think Silva needs a couple weeks to get that problem behind his knee calmed down. I know that watching Cubs baseball is very difficult for most of us to do these days. But what actually happened in real life is that Silva left his start two weeks ago in Phoenix with some sort of pull behind his left(?) knee. There was debate whether he'd make his start vs. L.A. and even in warmups you saw him landing awkwardly on that leg and not bending over (||) and driving through. Consequently pitches lost velocity, hung up in the zone and got whacked (||). So he had the All-Star Break and four days to recover but didn't. It's not like he's regressing to suck, but it's that he's Carlos Silva and something is physically wrong again.
The Cubs need somebody to take a couple of starts so the question remains who or whom or what. I vote Kevin Hart.
Why do Cubs fans hate Sean Marshall?
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 20, 2010, 10:04:02 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 20, 2010, 10:01:39 AM
Quote from: MAD on July 20, 2010, 08:56:54 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 20, 2010, 08:51:26 AM
Quote from: MAD on July 20, 2010, 08:42:23 AM
I know he's probably worn down from all of the wear and tear, and his fastball is consequently much more hittable, and he can be kind of a crazy asshole, but I'm thinking this Carlos Zambrano guy might do better than what was given last night, yes?
Depends on who you ask. Ask a typical Cubs fan, they'll say that Z's Clubhouse Presence doesn't match up with one Silva thus rendering him useless on the mound, and allowing him to give up home run after home run.
Let's not ignore the fact that in all honesty, Z may be have become extremely hittable. I'm only arguing that he can't be worse than what Silva's regressing toward for the next 3 months.
I think Silva needs a couple weeks to get that problem behind his knee calmed down. I know that watching Cubs baseball is very difficult for most of us to do these days. But what actually happened in real life is that Silva left his start two weeks ago in Phoenix with some sort of pull behind his left(?) knee. There was debate whether he'd make his start vs. L.A. and even in warmups you saw him landing awkwardly on that leg and not bending over (||) and driving through. Consequently pitches lost velocity, hung up in the zone and got whacked (||). So he had the All-Star Break and four days to recover but didn't. It's not like he's regressing to suck, but it's that he's Carlos Silva and something is physically wrong again.
The Cubs need somebody to take a couple of starts so the question remains who or whom or what. I vote Kevin Hart.
Why do Cubs fans hate Sean Marshall?
Because when he starts he sucks and when he relieves he's good? Could be that he only has two pitches that work and the curve stops surprising people the second or third time through the order? Could be that he lacks stamina. Could be that he hates us too.
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I know he's probably worn down from all of the wear and tear, and his fastball is consequently much more hittable, and he can be kind of a crazy asshole, but I'm thinking this Carlos Zambrano guy might do better than what was given last night, yes?
Depends on who you ask. Ask a typical Cubs fan, they'll say that Z's Clubhouse Presence doesn't match up with one Silva thus rendering him useless on the mound, and allowing him to give up home run after home run.
Let's not ignore the fact that in all honesty, Z may be have become extremely hittable. I'm only arguing that he can't be worse than what Silva's regressing toward for the next 3 months.
I think Silva needs a couple weeks to get that problem behind his knee calmed down. I know that watching Cubs baseball is very difficult for most of us to do these days. But what actually happened in real life is that Silva left his start two weeks ago in Phoenix with some sort of pull behind his left(?) knee. There was debate whether he'd make his start vs. L.A. and even in warmups you saw him landing awkwardly on that leg and not bending over (||) and driving through. Consequently pitches lost velocity, hung up in the zone and got whacked (||). So he had the All-Star Break and four days to recover but didn't. It's not like he's regressing to suck, but it's that he's Carlos Silva and something is physically wrong again.
The Cubs need somebody to take a couple of starts so the question remains who or whom or what. I vote Kevin Hart.
Why do Cubs fans hate Sean Marshall?
Because when he starts he sucks and when he relieves he's good? Could be that he only has two pitches that work and the curve stops surprising people the second or third time through the order? Could be that he lacks stamina. Could be that he hates us too.
Could be. I guess Cashner could start a few games, but then he'd be required to throw some strikes every so often.
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I know he's probably worn down from all of the wear and tear, and his fastball is consequently much more hittable, and he can be kind of a crazy asshole, but I'm thinking this Carlos Zambrano guy might do better than what was given last night, yes?
Depends on who you ask. Ask a typical Cubs fan, they'll say that Z's Clubhouse Presence doesn't match up with one Silva thus rendering him useless on the mound, and allowing him to give up home run after home run.
Let's not ignore the fact that in all honesty, Z may be have become extremely hittable. I'm only arguing that he can't be worse than what Silva's regressing toward for the next 3 months.
I think Silva needs a couple weeks to get that problem behind his knee calmed down. I know that watching Cubs baseball is very difficult for most of us to do these days. But what actually happened in real life is that Silva left his start two weeks ago in Phoenix with some sort of pull behind his left(?) knee. There was debate whether he'd make his start vs. L.A. and even in warmups you saw him landing awkwardly on that leg and not bending over (||) and driving through. Consequently pitches lost velocity, hung up in the zone and got whacked (||). So he had the All-Star Break and four days to recover but didn't. It's not like he's regressing to suck, but it's that he's Carlos Silva and something is physically wrong again.
The Cubs need somebody to take a couple of starts so the question remains who or whom or what. I vote Kevin Hart.
I'd have more sympathy for Silva if I didn't think his knee issues were related to him being a fatass who hasn't made any attempt to get himself into shape.
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I know he's probably worn down from all of the wear and tear, and his fastball is consequently much more hittable, and he can be kind of a crazy asshole, but I'm thinking this Carlos Zambrano guy might do better than what was given last night, yes?
Depends on who you ask. Ask a typical Cubs fan, they'll say that Z's Clubhouse Presence doesn't match up with one Silva thus rendering him useless on the mound, and allowing him to give up home run after home run.
Let's not ignore the fact that in all honesty, Z may be have become extremely hittable. I'm only arguing that he can't be worse than what Silva's regressing toward for the next 3 months.
I think Silva needs a couple weeks to get that problem behind his knee calmed down. I know that watching Cubs baseball is very difficult for most of us to do these days. But what actually happened in real life is that Silva left his start two weeks ago in Phoenix with some sort of pull behind his left(?) knee. There was debate whether he'd make his start vs. L.A. and even in warmups you saw him landing awkwardly on that leg and not bending over (||) and driving through. Consequently pitches lost velocity, hung up in the zone and got whacked (||). So he had the All-Star Break and four days to recover but didn't. It's not like he's regressing to suck, but it's that he's Carlos Silva and something is physically wrong again.
The Cubs need somebody to take a couple of starts so the question remains who or whom or what. I vote Kevin Hart.
Why do Cubs fans hate Sean Marshall?
Because when he starts he sucks and when he relieves he's good? Could be that he only has two pitches that work and the curve stops surprising people the second or third time through the order? Could be that he lacks stamina. Could be that he hates us too.
Could be. I guess Cashner could start a few games, but then he'd be required to throw some strikes every so often.
Strikes are overrated.
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I know he's probably worn down from all of the wear and tear, and his fastball is consequently much more hittable, and he can be kind of a crazy asshole, but I'm thinking this Carlos Zambrano guy might do better than what was given last night, yes?
Depends on who you ask. Ask a typical Cubs fan, they'll say that Z's Clubhouse Presence doesn't match up with one Silva thus rendering him useless on the mound, and allowing him to give up home run after home run.
Let's not ignore the fact that in all honesty, Z may be have become extremely hittable. I'm only arguing that he can't be worse than what Silva's regressing toward for the next 3 months.
I think Silva needs a couple weeks to get that problem behind his knee calmed down. I know that watching Cubs baseball is very difficult for most of us to do these days. But what actually happened in real life is that Silva left his start two weeks ago in Phoenix with some sort of pull behind his left(?) knee. There was debate whether he'd make his start vs. L.A. and even in warmups you saw him landing awkwardly on that leg and not bending over (||) and driving through. Consequently pitches lost velocity, hung up in the zone and got whacked (||). So he had the All-Star Break and four days to recover but didn't. It's not like he's regressing to suck, but it's that he's Carlos Silva and something is physically wrong again.
The Cubs need somebody to take a couple of starts so the question remains who or whom or what. I vote Kevin Hart.
I'd have more sympathy for Silva if I didn't think his knee issues were related to him being a fatass who hasn't made any attempt to get himself into shape.
I wouldn't.
FIREBARN them all.
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I know he's probably worn down from all of the wear and tear, and his fastball is consequently much more hittable, and he can be kind of a crazy asshole, but I'm thinking this Carlos Zambrano guy might do better than what was given last night, yes?
Depends on who you ask. Ask a typical Cubs fan, they'll say that Z's Clubhouse Presence doesn't match up with one Silva thus rendering him useless on the mound, and allowing him to give up home run after home run.
Let's not ignore the fact that in all honesty, Z may be have become extremely hittable. I'm only arguing that he can't be worse than what Silva's regressing toward for the next 3 months.
I think Silva needs a couple weeks to get that problem behind his knee calmed down. I know that watching Cubs baseball is very difficult for most of us to do these days. But what actually happened in real life is that Silva left his start two weeks ago in Phoenix with some sort of pull behind his left(?) knee. There was debate whether he'd make his start vs. L.A. and even in warmups you saw him landing awkwardly on that leg and not bending over (||) and driving through. Consequently pitches lost velocity, hung up in the zone and got whacked (||). So he had the All-Star Break and four days to recover but didn't. It's not like he's regressing to suck, but it's that he's Carlos Silva and something is physically wrong again.
The Cubs need somebody to take a couple of starts so the question remains who or whom or what. I vote Kevin Hart.
Why do Cubs fans hate Sean Marshall?
Because when he starts he sucks and when he relieves he's good? Could be that he only has two pitches that work and the curve stops surprising people the second or third time through the order? Could be that he lacks stamina. Could be that he hates us too.
Could be. I guess Cashner could start a few games, but then he'd be required to throw some strikes every so often.
Strikes are overrated.
Please don't read my post as advocating for him throwing knee high fastballs in succession.
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I know he's probably worn down from all of the wear and tear, and his fastball is consequently much more hittable, and he can be kind of a crazy asshole, but I'm thinking this Carlos Zambrano guy might do better than what was given last night, yes?
Depends on who you ask. Ask a typical Cubs fan, they'll say that Z's Clubhouse Presence doesn't match up with one Silva thus rendering him useless on the mound, and allowing him to give up home run after home run.
Let's not ignore the fact that in all honesty, Z may be have become extremely hittable. I'm only arguing that he can't be worse than what Silva's regressing toward for the next 3 months.
I think Silva needs a couple weeks to get that problem behind his knee calmed down. I know that watching Cubs baseball is very difficult for most of us to do these days. But what actually happened in real life is that Silva left his start two weeks ago in Phoenix with some sort of pull behind his left(?) knee. There was debate whether he'd make his start vs. L.A. and even in warmups you saw him landing awkwardly on that leg and not bending over (||) and driving through. Consequently pitches lost velocity, hung up in the zone and got whacked (||). So he had the All-Star Break and four days to recover but didn't. It's not like he's regressing to suck, but it's that he's Carlos Silva and something is physically wrong again.
The Cubs need somebody to take a couple of starts so the question remains who or whom or what. I vote Kevin Hart.
Why do Cubs fans hate Sean Marshall?
Because when he starts he sucks and when he relieves he's good? Could be that he only has two pitches that work and the curve stops surprising people the second or third time through the order? Could be that he lacks stamina. Could be that he hates us too.
Could be. I guess Cashner could start a few games, but then he'd be required to throw some strikes every so often.
Jayj Ackson?
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I know he's probably worn down from all of the wear and tear, and his fastball is consequently much more hittable, and he can be kind of a crazy asshole, but I'm thinking this Carlos Zambrano guy might do better than what was given last night, yes?
Depends on who you ask. Ask a typical Cubs fan, they'll say that Z's Clubhouse Presence doesn't match up with one Silva thus rendering him useless on the mound, and allowing him to give up home run after home run.
Let's not ignore the fact that in all honesty, Z may be have become extremely hittable. I'm only arguing that he can't be worse than what Silva's regressing toward for the next 3 months.
I think Silva needs a couple weeks to get that problem behind his knee calmed down. I know that watching Cubs baseball is very difficult for most of us to do these days. But what actually happened in real life is that Silva left his start two weeks ago in Phoenix with some sort of pull behind his left(?) knee. There was debate whether he'd make his start vs. L.A. and even in warmups you saw him landing awkwardly on that leg and not bending over (||) and driving through. Consequently pitches lost velocity, hung up in the zone and got whacked (||). So he had the All-Star Break and four days to recover but didn't. It's not like he's regressing to suck, but it's that he's Carlos Silva and something is physically wrong again.
The Cubs need somebody to take a couple of starts so the question remains who or whom or what. I vote Kevin Hart.
Why do Cubs fans hate Sean Marshall?
Because when he starts he sucks and when he relieves he's good? Could be that he only has two pitches that work and the curve stops surprising people the second or third time through the order? Could be that he lacks stamina. Could be that he hates us too.
Could be. I guess Cashner could start a few games, but then he'd be required to throw some strikes every so often.
Jayj Ackson?
I like the youth movement idea, but these kids aren't really being asked to play in a low pressure, get experience scenario.
They are being asked to make an immediate impact and if they do, we're right back in it. What a joke.
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I know he's probably worn down from all of the wear and tear, and his fastball is consequently much more hittable, and he can be kind of a crazy asshole, but I'm thinking this Carlos Zambrano guy might do better than what was given last night, yes?
Depends on who you ask. Ask a typical Cubs fan, they'll say that Z's Clubhouse Presence doesn't match up with one Silva thus rendering him useless on the mound, and allowing him to give up home run after home run.
Let's not ignore the fact that in all honesty, Z may be have become extremely hittable. I'm only arguing that he can't be worse than what Silva's regressing toward for the next 3 months.
I think Silva needs a couple weeks to get that problem behind his knee calmed down. I know that watching Cubs baseball is very difficult for most of us to do these days. But what actually happened in real life is that Silva left his start two weeks ago in Phoenix with some sort of pull behind his left(?) knee. There was debate whether he'd make his start vs. L.A. and even in warmups you saw him landing awkwardly on that leg and not bending over (||) and driving through. Consequently pitches lost velocity, hung up in the zone and got whacked (||). So he had the All-Star Break and four days to recover but didn't. It's not like he's regressing to suck, but it's that he's Carlos Silva and something is physically wrong again.
The Cubs need somebody to take a couple of starts so the question remains who or whom or what. I vote Kevin Hart.
Why do Cubs fans hate Sean Marshall?
Because when he starts he sucks and when he relieves he's good? Could be that he only has two pitches that work and the curve stops surprising people the second or third time through the order? Could be that he lacks stamina. Could be that he hates us too.
Could be. I guess Cashner could start a few games, but then he'd be required to throw some strikes every so often.
Jayj Ackson?
I like the youth movement idea, but these kids aren't really being asked to play in a low pressure, get experience scenario.
They are being asked to make an immediate impact and if they do, we're right back in it. What a joke.
Playing for a team that's 10 games out of first is a high-pressure situation?
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I know he's probably worn down from all of the wear and tear, and his fastball is consequently much more hittable, and he can be kind of a crazy asshole, but I'm thinking this Carlos Zambrano guy might do better than what was given last night, yes?
Depends on who you ask. Ask a typical Cubs fan, they'll say that Z's Clubhouse Presence doesn't match up with one Silva thus rendering him useless on the mound, and allowing him to give up home run after home run.
Let's not ignore the fact that in all honesty, Z may be have become extremely hittable. I'm only arguing that he can't be worse than what Silva's regressing toward for the next 3 months.
I think Silva needs a couple weeks to get that problem behind his knee calmed down. I know that watching Cubs baseball is very difficult for most of us to do these days. But what actually happened in real life is that Silva left his start two weeks ago in Phoenix with some sort of pull behind his left(?) knee. There was debate whether he'd make his start vs. L.A. and even in warmups you saw him landing awkwardly on that leg and not bending over (||) and driving through. Consequently pitches lost velocity, hung up in the zone and got whacked (||). So he had the All-Star Break and four days to recover but didn't. It's not like he's regressing to suck, but it's that he's Carlos Silva and something is physically wrong again.
The Cubs need somebody to take a couple of starts so the question remains who or whom or what. I vote Kevin Hart.
Why do Cubs fans hate Sean Marshall?
Because when he starts he sucks and when he relieves he's good? Could be that he only has two pitches that work and the curve stops surprising people the second or third time through the order? Could be that he lacks stamina. Could be that he hates us too.
Could be. I guess Cashner could start a few games, but then he'd be required to throw some strikes every so often.
Jayj Ackson?
I like the youth movement idea, but these kids aren't really being asked to play in a low pressure, get experience scenario.
They are being asked to make an immediate impact and if they do, we're right back in it. What a joke.
I would rather the Cubs abandon all hope this season and just go ahead with playing those kids.
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I know he's probably worn down from all of the wear and tear, and his fastball is consequently much more hittable, and he can be kind of a crazy asshole, but I'm thinking this Carlos Zambrano guy might do better than what was given last night, yes?
Depends on who you ask. Ask a typical Cubs fan, they'll say that Z's Clubhouse Presence doesn't match up with one Silva thus rendering him useless on the mound, and allowing him to give up home run after home run.
Let's not ignore the fact that in all honesty, Z may be have become extremely hittable. I'm only arguing that he can't be worse than what Silva's regressing toward for the next 3 months.
I think Silva needs a couple weeks to get that problem behind his knee calmed down. I know that watching Cubs baseball is very difficult for most of us to do these days. But what actually happened in real life is that Silva left his start two weeks ago in Phoenix with some sort of pull behind his left(?) knee. There was debate whether he'd make his start vs. L.A. and even in warmups you saw him landing awkwardly on that leg and not bending over (||) and driving through. Consequently pitches lost velocity, hung up in the zone and got whacked (||). So he had the All-Star Break and four days to recover but didn't. It's not like he's regressing to suck, but it's that he's Carlos Silva and something is physically wrong again.
The Cubs need somebody to take a couple of starts so the question remains who or whom or what. I vote Kevin Hart.
Why do Cubs fans hate Sean Marshall?
Because when he starts he sucks and when he relieves he's good? Could be that he only has two pitches that work and the curve stops surprising people the second or third time through the order? Could be that he lacks stamina. Could be that he hates us too.
Could be. I guess Cashner could start a few games, but then he'd be required to throw some strikes every so often.
Jayj Ackson?
I like the youth movement idea, but these kids aren't really being asked to play in a low pressure, get experience scenario.
They are being asked to make an immediate impact and if they do, we're right back in it. What a joke.
Take the pizza out of your face before you start typing
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I know he's probably worn down from all of the wear and tear, and his fastball is consequently much more hittable, and he can be kind of a crazy asshole, but I'm thinking this Carlos Zambrano guy might do better than what was given last night, yes?
Depends on who you ask. Ask a typical Cubs fan, they'll say that Z's Clubhouse Presence doesn't match up with one Silva thus rendering him useless on the mound, and allowing him to give up home run after home run.
Let's not ignore the fact that in all honesty, Z may be have become extremely hittable. I'm only arguing that he can't be worse than what Silva's regressing toward for the next 3 months.
I think Silva needs a couple weeks to get that problem behind his knee calmed down. I know that watching Cubs baseball is very difficult for most of us to do these days. But what actually happened in real life is that Silva left his start two weeks ago in Phoenix with some sort of pull behind his left(?) knee. There was debate whether he'd make his start vs. L.A. and even in warmups you saw him landing awkwardly on that leg and not bending over (||) and driving through. Consequently pitches lost velocity, hung up in the zone and got whacked (||). So he had the All-Star Break and four days to recover but didn't. It's not like he's regressing to suck, but it's that he's Carlos Silva and something is physically wrong again.
The Cubs need somebody to take a couple of starts so the question remains who or whom or what. I vote Kevin Hart.
Why do Cubs fans hate Sean Marshall?
Because when he starts he sucks and when he relieves he's good? Could be that he only has two pitches that work and the curve stops surprising people the second or third time through the order? Could be that he lacks stamina. Could be that he hates us too.
Could be. I guess Cashner could start a few games, but then he'd be required to throw some strikes every so often.
Jayj Ackson?
I like the youth movement idea, but these kids aren't really being asked to play in a low pressure, get experience scenario.
They are being asked to make an immediate impact and if they do, we're right back in it. What a joke.
Take the pizza out of your face before you start typing
TFuck and Apex need their own hilarious blog.
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I know he's probably worn down from all of the wear and tear, and his fastball is consequently much more hittable, and he can be kind of a crazy asshole, but I'm thinking this Carlos Zambrano guy might do better than what was given last night, yes?
Depends on who you ask. Ask a typical Cubs fan, they'll say that Z's Clubhouse Presence doesn't match up with one Silva thus rendering him useless on the mound, and allowing him to give up home run after home run.
Let's not ignore the fact that in all honesty, Z may be have become extremely hittable. I'm only arguing that he can't be worse than what Silva's regressing toward for the next 3 months.
I think Silva needs a couple weeks to get that problem behind his knee calmed down. I know that watching Cubs baseball is very difficult for most of us to do these days. But what actually happened in real life is that Silva left his start two weeks ago in Phoenix with some sort of pull behind his left(?) knee. There was debate whether he'd make his start vs. L.A. and even in warmups you saw him landing awkwardly on that leg and not bending over (||) and driving through. Consequently pitches lost velocity, hung up in the zone and got whacked (||). So he had the All-Star Break and four days to recover but didn't. It's not like he's regressing to suck, but it's that he's Carlos Silva and something is physically wrong again.
The Cubs need somebody to take a couple of starts so the question remains who or whom or what. I vote Kevin Hart.
Why do Cubs fans hate Sean Marshall?
Because when he starts he sucks and when he relieves he's good? Could be that he only has two pitches that work and the curve stops surprising people the second or third time through the order? Could be that he lacks stamina. Could be that he hates us too.
Could be. I guess Cashner could start a few games, but then he'd be required to throw some strikes every so often.
Jayj Ackson?
I like the youth movement idea, but these kids aren't really being asked to play in a low pressure, get experience scenario.
They are being asked to make an immediate impact and if they do, we're right back in it. What a joke.
Take the pizza out of your face before you start typing
TFuck and Apex need their own hilarious blog.
Will you contribute guest columns?
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I know he's probably worn down from all of the wear and tear, and his fastball is consequently much more hittable, and he can be kind of a crazy asshole, but I'm thinking this Carlos Zambrano guy might do better than what was given last night, yes?
Depends on who you ask. Ask a typical Cubs fan, they'll say that Z's Clubhouse Presence doesn't match up with one Silva thus rendering him useless on the mound, and allowing him to give up home run after home run.
Let's not ignore the fact that in all honesty, Z may be have become extremely hittable. I'm only arguing that he can't be worse than what Silva's regressing toward for the next 3 months.
I think Silva needs a couple weeks to get that problem behind his knee calmed down. I know that watching Cubs baseball is very difficult for most of us to do these days. But what actually happened in real life is that Silva left his start two weeks ago in Phoenix with some sort of pull behind his left(?) knee. There was debate whether he'd make his start vs. L.A. and even in warmups you saw him landing awkwardly on that leg and not bending over (||) and driving through. Consequently pitches lost velocity, hung up in the zone and got whacked (||). So he had the All-Star Break and four days to recover but didn't. It's not like he's regressing to suck, but it's that he's Carlos Silva and something is physically wrong again.
The Cubs need somebody to take a couple of starts so the question remains who or whom or what. I vote Kevin Hart.
Why do Cubs fans hate Sean Marshall?
Because when he starts he sucks and when he relieves he's good? Could be that he only has two pitches that work and the curve stops surprising people the second or third time through the order? Could be that he lacks stamina. Could be that he hates us too.
Could be. I guess Cashner could start a few games, but then he'd be required to throw some strikes every so often.
Jayj Ackson?
I like the youth movement idea, but these kids aren't really being asked to play in a low pressure, get experience scenario.
They are being asked to make an immediate impact and if they do, we're right back in it. What a joke.
Take the pizza out of your face before you start typing
TFuck and Apex need their own hilarious blog.
Will you contribute guest columns?
When I'm not eating pizza.