Can someone explain to me why anyone would want the new iPad? It's just a larger iPhone, unless I'm missing something.
http://live.gizmodo.com/
I thought this was going to be a rant in line with your EPIC Comcast rant.
/disappointed
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 27, 2010, 12:42:54 PM
I thought this was going to be a rant in line with your EPIC Comcast rant.
/disappointed
I actually love the apple products I have. iPhone, macbook pro, shuffle, nano.. just don't get the point of this new device.
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 12:47:26 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 27, 2010, 12:42:54 PM
I thought this was going to be a rant in line with your EPIC Comcast rant.
/disappointed
I actually love the apple products I have. iPhone, macbook pro, shuffle, nano.. just don't get the point of this new device.
Is it going to be cheaper than a macbook? In that case it'd make sense as a basic home computer in place of your laptop.
Quote from: R-V on January 27, 2010, 12:50:30 PM
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 12:47:26 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 27, 2010, 12:42:54 PM
I thought this was going to be a rant in line with your EPIC Comcast rant.
/disappointed
I actually love the apple products I have. iPhone, macbook pro, shuffle, nano.. just don't get the point of this new device.
Is it going to be cheaper than a macbook? In that case it'd make sense as a basic home computer in place of your laptop.
Rumored to be $1k, plus the mobile rate plans. So no, it's not cheaper.
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 12:47:26 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 27, 2010, 12:42:54 PM
I thought this was going to be a rant in line with your EPIC Comcast rant.
/disappointed
I actually love the apple products I have. iPhone, macbook pro, shuffle, nano.. just don't get the point of this new device.
The point is, pancreatic cancer treatment isn't cheap.
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 12:53:59 PM
Quote from: R-V on January 27, 2010, 12:50:30 PM
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 12:47:26 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 27, 2010, 12:42:54 PM
I thought this was going to be a rant in line with your EPIC Comcast rant.
/disappointed
I actually love the apple products I have. iPhone, macbook pro, shuffle, nano.. just don't get the point of this new device.
Is it going to be cheaper than a macbook? In that case it'd make sense as a basic home computer in place of your laptop.
Rumored to be $1k, plus the mobile rate plans. So no, it's not cheaper.
If the storage was a little bigger (between 16 and 64 GB), I could see it being a good laptop/netbook replacement. Although if it is actually going to cost $1k, it seems like you'd be much better off just buying a MacBook. Let's see how this plays out.
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 12:25:46 PM
Can someone explain to me why anyone would want the new iPad? It's just a larger iPhone, unless I'm missing something.
http://live.gizmodo.com/
It runs wi-fi only, so it's more of a giant iPod Touch.
Screw the iPad.
I just want them to announce other US companies will be able to carry the iPhone (Verizon). And introduce an updated iPhone.
Unless it comes bundled with a subscription to the Elsevier backfile and friends, I'm wholly indifferent. Unless it's propagated on cells extracted from Steve Jobs' new liver, that is, in which case I'm indifferent but short on onions.
Quote from: Eli on January 27, 2010, 01:06:28 PM
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 12:25:46 PM
Can someone explain to me why anyone would want the new iPad? It's just a larger iPhone, unless I'm missing something.
http://live.gizmodo.com/
It runs wi-fi only, so it's more of a giant iPod Touch.
$29.99 a month for unlimited data via ATT.
(http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/appletablet/appletabletb543.jpg)
Pen assures me this thing is no threat to the Kindle and its undisclosed sales figures.
Because no one who'd be willing to spend $259 (or $489 for the larger Kindle DX) for a device devoted strictly to reading digital books would be willing to to spend $240 more (or $10 more, for that matter) for a much better device in a similar form factor that would, among other things, also allow them to watch video and offers capabilities more akin to a netbook.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 27, 2010, 02:27:36 PM
Pen assures me this thing is no threat to the Kindle and its undisclosed sales figures.
Because no one who'd be willing to spend $259 (or $489 for the larger Kindle DX) for a device devoted strictly to reading digital books would be willing to to spend $240 more (or $10 more, for that matter) for a much better device in a similar form factor that would, among other things, also allow them to watch video and offers capabilities more akin to a netbook.
I'm sure eBooks, like iTunes, also won't be the new industry standard. Pen is usually right about stuff though, so I'm gonna have to wait to see how this plays out.
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 02:33:38 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 27, 2010, 02:27:36 PM
Pen assures me this thing is no threat to the Kindle and its undisclosed sales figures.
Because no one who'd be willing to spend $259 (or $489 for the larger Kindle DX) for a device devoted strictly to reading digital books would be willing to to spend $240 more (or $10 more, for that matter) for a much better device in a similar form factor that would, among other things, also allow them to watch video and offers capabilities more akin to a netbook.
I'm sure eBooks, like iTunes, also won't be the new industry standard. Pen is usually right about stuff though, so I'm gonna have to wait to see how this plays out.
Do any libraries offer digital books yet? If so, does the Kindle format or eBooks have an edge in the freestuff market?
I'm looking your way, suburb losers with fancy libraries.
Ebooks are open standard, amazon is proprietary. Pretty good chance that Kindle is the odd man out. Or woman. If you prefer.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 27, 2010, 02:27:36 PM
Pen assures me this thing is no threat to the Kindle and its undisclosed sales figures.
Because no one who'd be willing to spend $259 (or $489 for the larger Kindle DX) for a device devoted strictly to reading digital books would be willing to to spend $240 more (or $10 more, for that matter) for a much better device in a similar form factor that would, among other things, also allow them to watch video and offers capabilities more akin to a netbook.
Pretty gross mischaracterization of the facts.
Quote from: PenFoe on January 27, 2010, 03:02:17 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 27, 2010, 02:27:36 PM
Pen assures me this thing is no threat to the Kindle and its undisclosed sales figures.
Because no one who'd be willing to spend $259 (or $489 for the larger Kindle DX) for a device devoted strictly to reading digital books would be willing to to spend $240 more (or $10 more, for that matter) for a much better device in a similar form factor that would, among other things, also allow them to watch video and offers capabilities more akin to a netbook.
Pretty gross mischaracterization of the facts.
You new here?
Quote from: R-V on January 27, 2010, 01:29:44 PM
(http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/appletablet/appletabletb543.jpg)
Those prices intrigue me.
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 03:05:03 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 27, 2010, 03:02:17 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 27, 2010, 02:27:36 PM
Pen assures me this thing is no threat to the Kindle and its undisclosed sales figures.
Because no one who'd be willing to spend $259 (or $489 for the larger Kindle DX) for a device devoted strictly to reading digital books would be willing to to spend $240 more (or $10 more, for that matter) for a much better device in a similar form factor that would, among other things, also allow them to watch video and offers capabilities more akin to a netbook.
Pretty gross mischaracterization of the facts.
You new here?
I will not have my lack of credibility further tarnished!
Quote from: Yeti on January 27, 2010, 03:05:13 PM
Quote from: R-V on January 27, 2010, 01:29:44 PM
(http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/appletablet/appletabletb543.jpg)
Those prices intrigue me.
Yeti, this app might also intrigue you.
(http://homeintelblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/picture-43.png)
Quote from: PenFoe on January 27, 2010, 03:02:17 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 27, 2010, 02:27:36 PM
Pen assures me this thing is no threat to the Kindle and its undisclosed sales figures.
Because no one who'd be willing to spend $259 (or $489 for the larger Kindle DX) for a device devoted strictly to reading digital books would be willing to to spend $240 more (or $10 more, for that matter) for a much better device in a similar form factor that would, among other things, also allow them to watch video and offers capabilities more akin to a netbook.
Pretty gross mischaracterization of the facts.
Let's go to the tape...
Fork: "Also, [iPad] will effectively kill Kindle."
Pen: "[ I]'m pretty sure Fork is wrong about that"
Pen: "I don't have any specific information, but it seems wrong"
Tank: "Kindle looks like shit in the company of the iPad"
Tank: "It's not going to necessarily kill the Kindle outright, but it won't make life easier for it"
Pen: "$500 seems like a lot for an electric book"
"[T]his thing is a good bit bigger than a kindle, no? [W]hy not just read books on your iPhone? I mean...if the iPhone isn't a Kindle killer, why would the iPad [be one]?"
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 27, 2010, 03:17:41 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 27, 2010, 03:02:17 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 27, 2010, 02:27:36 PM
Pen assures me this thing is no threat to the Kindle and its undisclosed sales figures.
Because no one who'd be willing to spend $259 (or $489 for the larger Kindle DX) for a device devoted strictly to reading digital books would be willing to to spend $240 more (or $10 more, for that matter) for a much better device in a similar form factor that would, among other things, also allow them to watch video and offers capabilities more akin to a netbook.
Pretty gross mischaracterization of the facts.
Let's go to the tape...
Fork: "Also, [iPad] will effectively kill Kindle."
Pen: "[ I]'m pretty sure Fork is wrong about that"
Pen: "I don't have any specific information, but it seems wrong"
Tank: "Kindle looks like shit in the company of the iPad"
Tank: "It's not going to necessarily kill the Kindle outright, but it won't make life easier for it"
Pen: "$500 seems like a lot for an electric book"
"[T]his thing is a good bit bigger than a kindle, no? [W]hy not just read books on your iPhone? I mean...if the iPhone isn't a Kindle killer, why would the iPad [be one]?"
Exactly what part of that made you feel "assured"?
Quote from: PenFoe on January 27, 2010, 03:19:11 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 27, 2010, 03:17:41 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 27, 2010, 03:02:17 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 27, 2010, 02:27:36 PM
Pen assures me this thing is no threat to the Kindle and its undisclosed sales figures.
Because no one who'd be willing to spend $259 (or $489 for the larger Kindle DX) for a device devoted strictly to reading digital books would be willing to to spend $240 more (or $10 more, for that matter) for a much better device in a similar form factor that would, among other things, also allow them to watch video and offers capabilities more akin to a netbook.
Pretty gross mischaracterization of the facts.
Let's go to the tape...
Fork: "Also, [iPad] will effectively kill Kindle."
Pen: "[ I]'m pretty sure Fork is wrong about that"
Pen: "I don't have any specific information, but it seems wrong"
Tank: "Kindle looks like shit in the company of the iPad"
Tank: "It's not going to necessarily kill the Kindle outright, but it won't make life easier for it"
Pen: "$500 seems like a lot for an electric book"
"[T]his thing is a good bit bigger than a kindle, no? [W]hy not just read books on your iPhone? I mean...if the iPhone isn't a Kindle killer, why would the iPad [be one]?"
Exactly what part of that made you feel "assured"?
For me, it was the brackets. They're like a punctuation hug.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 27, 2010, 03:17:41 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 27, 2010, 03:02:17 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 27, 2010, 02:27:36 PM
Pen assures me this thing is no threat to the Kindle and its undisclosed sales figures.
Because no one who'd be willing to spend $259 (or $489 for the larger Kindle DX) for a device devoted strictly to reading digital books would be willing to to spend $240 more (or $10 more, for that matter) for a much better device in a similar form factor that would, among other things, also allow them to watch video and offers capabilities more akin to a netbook.
Pretty gross mischaracterization of the facts.
Let's go to the tape...
Fork: "Also, [iPad] will effectively kill Kindle."
Pen: "[ I]'m pretty sure Fork is wrong about that"
Pen: "I don't have any specific information, but it seems wrong"
Tank: "Kindle looks like shit in the company of the iPad"
Tank: "It's not going to necessarily kill the Kindle outright, but it won't make life easier for it"
Pen: "$500 seems like a lot for an electric book"
"[T]his thing is a good bit bigger than a kindle, no? [W]hy not just read books on your iPhone? I mean...if the iPhone isn't a Kindle killer, why would the iPad [be one]?"
Pen, just an fyi. The iPad isn't just an electric book.
Quote from: BH on January 27, 2010, 03:32:43 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 27, 2010, 03:17:41 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 27, 2010, 03:02:17 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 27, 2010, 02:27:36 PM
Pen assures me this thing is no threat to the Kindle and its undisclosed sales figures.
Because no one who'd be willing to spend $259 (or $489 for the larger Kindle DX) for a device devoted strictly to reading digital books would be willing to to spend $240 more (or $10 more, for that matter) for a much better device in a similar form factor that would, among other things, also allow them to watch video and offers capabilities more akin to a netbook.
Pretty gross mischaracterization of the facts.
Let's go to the tape...
Fork: "Also, [iPad] will effectively kill Kindle."
Pen: "[ I]'m pretty sure Fork is wrong about that"
Pen: "I don't have any specific information, but it seems wrong"
Tank: "Kindle looks like shit in the company of the iPad"
Tank: "It's not going to necessarily kill the Kindle outright, but it won't make life easier for it"
Pen: "$500 seems like a lot for an electric book"
"[T]his thing is a good bit bigger than a kindle, no? [W]hy not just read books on your iPhone? I mean...if the iPhone isn't a Kindle killer, why would the iPad [be one]?"
Pen, just an fyi. The iPad isn't just an electric book.
That's right, it's an unwieldy iPhone!
Quote from: PenFoe on January 27, 2010, 03:02:17 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 27, 2010, 02:27:36 PM
Pen assures me this thing is no threat to the Kindle and its undisclosed sales figures.
Because no one who'd be willing to spend $259 (or $489 for the larger Kindle DX) for a device devoted strictly to reading digital books would be willing to to spend $240 more (or $10 more, for that matter) for a much better device in a similar form factor that would, among other things, also allow them to watch video and offers capabilities more akin to a netbook.
Pretty gross mischaracterization of the facts.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/01/amazon-sdk-hints-that-kindle-store-coming-to-apple-tablet.ars
Are those iPad + 3G prices just to buy the device with the capability to use 3G, as well as the monthly costs of the actual service? I feel like they whatever little chip they put in the phone to enable 3G shouldn't cost $130...
If you already have an iPhone, why the hell would you want it's mutant younger sibling?
Quote from: Weebs on January 27, 2010, 03:37:21 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 27, 2010, 03:02:17 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 27, 2010, 02:27:36 PM
Pen assures me this thing is no threat to the Kindle and its undisclosed sales figures.
Because no one who'd be willing to spend $259 (or $489 for the larger Kindle DX) for a device devoted strictly to reading digital books would be willing to to spend $240 more (or $10 more, for that matter) for a much better device in a similar form factor that would, among other things, also allow them to watch video and offers capabilities more akin to a netbook.
Pretty gross mischaracterization of the facts.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/01/amazon-sdk-hints-that-kindle-store-coming-to-apple-tablet.ars
Are those iPad + 3G prices just to buy the device with the capability to use 3G, as well as the monthly costs of the actual service? I feel like they whatever little chip they put in the phone to enable 3G shouldn't cost $130...
Just for 3G capability. The monthly cost is separate.
(http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/appletablet/appletabletb524.jpg)
Quote from: Weebs on January 27, 2010, 03:37:21 PM
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/01/amazon-sdk-hints-that-kindle-store-coming-to-apple-tablet.ars
Are those iPad + 3G prices just to buy the device with the capability to use 3G, as well as the monthly costs of the actual service? I feel like they whatever little chip they put in the phone to enable 3G shouldn't cost $130...
That's not how companies price these things, you jackass.
The prices in the pic RV linked are for the devices, without service. They announced some sort of data plan with AT&T, but the 3G iPads apparently will come
unlocked, so I don't think you'll be handcuffed to their shitty network.
As it stands, the 16GB 3G iPad only costs $30 more than an unsubsidized 16GB iPhone 3GS (without a contract).
Quote from: Weebs on January 27, 2010, 03:37:21 PM
I feel like they whatever little chip they put in the phone to enable 3G shouldn't cost $130...
That's how every upgrade ever works. A larger flash drive should cost hundreds more.
Xbox 360 hard drives shouldn't cost a shit-ton. Some comment about car moon roofs.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 27, 2010, 03:52:48 PM
Quote from: Weebs on January 27, 2010, 03:37:21 PM
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/01/amazon-sdk-hints-that-kindle-store-coming-to-apple-tablet.ars
Are those iPad + 3G prices just to buy the device with the capability to use 3G, as well as the monthly costs of the actual service? I feel like they whatever little chip they put in the phone to enable 3G shouldn't cost $130...
That's not how companies price these things, you jackass.
The prices in the pic RV linked are for the devices, without service. They announced some sort of data plan with AT&T, but the 3G iPads apparently will come unlocked, so I don't think you'll be handcuffed to their shitty network.
As it stands, the 16GB 3G iPad only costs $30 more than an unsubsidized 16GB iPhone 3GS (without a contract).
If they're actually unlocked, that's a little different. But if you're stuck with AT&T, it's stupid to charge $130 extra just for the device when you're then going to have to pay another monthly fee. I mean $30 isn't a terrible price for unlimited data, but you'd think if you're already paying a monthly fee, they'll give you some kind of discount on the actual purchase, like when you get a contract with an iPhone. Not to mention, I'm sure AT&T will do something to limit 3G use like they do with the iPhone, not letting you go to YouTube or other things like that unless you're on WiFi.
Quote from: Weebs on January 27, 2010, 03:55:15 PM
If they're actually unlocked, that's a little different. But if you're stuck with AT&T, it's stupid to charge $130 extra just for the device when you're then going to have to pay another monthly fee. I mean $30 isn't a terrible price for unlimited data, but you'd think if you're already paying a monthly fee, they'll give you some kind of discount on the actual purchase, like when you get a contract with an iPhone. Not to mention, I'm sure AT&T will do something to limit 3G use like they do with the iPhone, not letting you go to YouTube or other things like that unless you're on WiFi.
I've never been to a site and not been able to access it on my iphone.
They have a dedicated youtube app, that you don't need wifi to access.
Quote from: Weebs on January 27, 2010, 03:55:15 PM
Not to mention, I'm sure AT&T will do something to limit 3G use like they do with the iPhone, not letting you go to YouTube or other things like that unless you're on WiFi.
BH just commented on this, but I'd also like to add that you have no idea what you're talking about.
Quote from: Weebs on January 27, 2010, 03:55:15 PM
If they're actually unlocked, that's a little different.
They are.
Quote from: Weebs on January 27, 2010, 03:55:15 PM
But if you're stuck with AT&T...
You're not.
http://www.tuaw.com/2010/01/27/ipad-will-ship-with-802-11n-wi-fi-3g-optional/
QuoteWhat's also interesting is that the 3G model will run on the the UTMS/HSDPA 800, 1900, and 2100 MHz band with GSM/Edge running on the 850, 900, 1800 and 1900 MHz bands. This means that it will run on just about any provider out there. And the SIM comes completely unlocked, so even if you don't want in on Apples $14.99 for 250mb or $29.99 unlimited pay-as-you-go plan with AT&T, you can find your own 3G provider. Don't forget, though, that you'll be waiting for an extra month, as the 3G models are releasing in 90 days, not the 60 days expected for the Wi-Fi versions.
Quote from: Eli on January 27, 2010, 04:00:11 PM
Quote from: Weebs on January 27, 2010, 03:55:15 PM
Not to mention, I'm sure AT&T will do something to limit 3G use like they do with the iPhone, not letting you go to YouTube or other things like that unless you're on WiFi.
BH just commented on this, but I'd also like to add that you have no idea what you're talking about.
Apparently it applies to HD videos on YouTube, as well as Skype and some other VOIP apps. I'm not sure about any other restrictions, but AT&T is unhappy with the data usage. (http://mashable.com/2009/12/09/att-de-la-vega/)
Quote from: Weebs on January 27, 2010, 04:10:13 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 27, 2010, 04:00:11 PM
Quote from: Weebs on January 27, 2010, 03:55:15 PM
Not to mention, I'm sure AT&T will do something to limit 3G use like they do with the iPhone, not letting you go to YouTube or other things like that unless you're on WiFi.
BH just commented on this, but I'd also like to add that you have no idea what you're talking about.
Apparently it applies to HD videos on YouTube, as well as Skype and some other VOIP apps. I'm not sure about any other restrictions, but AT&T is unhappy with the data usage. (http://mashable.com/2009/12/09/att-de-la-vega/)
I bought my iphone specifically so I could use skype and voip. I was crushed that I had to use the actual phone instead of the internet.
iPhone users use 10x more data than average smartphone users. Of course ATT wouldn't be happy with that. The reason the network is unstable and has issues is in large part due to this.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 27, 2010, 03:52:48 PM
Quote from: Weebs on January 27, 2010, 03:37:21 PM
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/01/amazon-sdk-hints-that-kindle-store-coming-to-apple-tablet.ars
Are those iPad + 3G prices just to buy the device with the capability to use 3G, as well as the monthly costs of the actual service? I feel like they whatever little chip they put in the phone to enable 3G shouldn't cost $130...
That's not how companies price these things, you jackass.
The prices in the pic RV linked are for the devices, without service. They announced some sort of data plan with AT&T, but the 3G iPads apparently will come unlocked, so I don't think you'll be handcuffed to their shitty network.
As it stands, the 16GB 3G iPad only costs $30 more than an unsubsidized 16GB iPhone 3GS (without a contract).
You may have answered this but I'm too busy and lazy to look. If you have the AT&T 3G plan with your non-iPhone, can you just put this on that? Or is this different?
Its also AT&T's choice to limit the SlingBox to wifi only. You can only use 3G with that app if you jailbreak your phone.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 27, 2010, 03:17:41 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 27, 2010, 03:02:17 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 27, 2010, 02:27:36 PM
Pen assures me this thing is no threat to the Kindle and its undisclosed sales figures.
Because no one who'd be willing to spend $259 (or $489 for the larger Kindle DX) for a device devoted strictly to reading digital books would be willing to to spend $240 more (or $10 more, for that matter) for a much better device in a similar form factor that would, among other things, also allow them to watch video and offers capabilities more akin to a netbook.
Pretty gross mischaracterization of the facts.
Let's go to the tape...
Fork: "Also, [iPad] will effectively kill Kindle."
Pen: "[ I]'m pretty sure Fork is wrong about that"
Pen: "I don't have any specific information, but it seems wrong"
Tank: "Kindle looks like shit in the company of the iPad"
Tank: "It's not going to necessarily kill the Kindle outright, but it won't make life easier for it"
Pen: "$500 seems like a lot for an electric book"
"[T]his thing is a good bit bigger than a kindle, no? [W]hy not just read books on your iPhone? I mean...if the iPhone isn't a Kindle killer, why would the iPad [be one]?"
Assured? (http://i.gizmodo.com/5458349/apple-ipad-just-tried-to-assassinate-laptops)
Quote
Don't call it a Kindle killer. Books on iPad will probably be more expensive than Kindle's titles, at least at first. And there's nothing about the iPad's screen that will make it better for reading than, say, a laptop. But having a dedicated iBooks store? That's good for everybody, including iPhone and iPod touch users.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 27, 2010, 02:27:36 PM
Pen assures me this thing is no threat to the Kindle and its undisclosed sales figures.
Because no one who'd be willing to spend $259 (or $489 for the larger Kindle DX) for a device devoted strictly to reading digital books would be willing to to spend $240 more (or $10 more, for that matter) for a much better device in a similar form factor that would, among other things, also allow them to watch video and offers capabilities more akin to a netbook.
The benefit of the Kindle is that it doesn't destroy your eyes. If you're looking strictly for an e-reader, then the iPad isn't a better device. It's more powerful and more useful in general, but it's not really a better e-reader.
Chuck has never been more right. That's why the old color screen iPods changed to the slick black and white screen ones you see today.
White on black. Catch the future.
Quote from: PenFoe on January 27, 2010, 05:42:08 PM
Assured? (http://i.gizmodo.com/5458349/apple-ipad-just-tried-to-assassinate-laptops)
Quote
Don't call it a Kindle killer. Books on iPad will probably be more expensive than Kindle's titles, at least at first. And there's nothing about the iPad's screen that will make it better for reading than, say, a laptop. But having a dedicated iBooks store? That's good for everybody, including iPhone and iPod touch users.
So... Digital books bought through iTunes will
probably cost more than books bought through Amazon.com? Which, come to think of it, you'll be able to buy for your
iPad anyways, via the Kindle app (http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&docId=1000301301)? (Oh, and reading on the iPad will be no better than reading on a laptop? And who would ever do a thing like that?)
Quote from: ChuckD on January 27, 2010, 06:30:29 PM
The benefit of the Kindle is that it doesn't destroy your eyes. If you're looking strictly for an e-reader, then the iPad isn't a better device. It's more powerful and more useful in general, but it's not really a better e-reader.
Honestly, I think the notion that backlit displays are
inherently harder on the eyes than reflected light is overblown. Whether light is reflected or not, it's still just photons being directed at my retina. Yeah, if the backlight is considerably brighter than the ambient, that can get harsh. But even then I can easily replicate the relatively low-contrast ratio of a Kindle display on my laptop just by ratcheting down the brightness 10 steps.
Perhaps a more reasonable knock against backlighting is the flicker. Florescent backlighting has the same constant high-frequency flicker as all florescent lighting, and I gather LED backlighting (as found in the iPad) uses rapid flickering to attenuate brightness.
But neither even begin to approach the eye-gouging associated with low-refresh-rate CRTs of yesteryear. I feel like you're more liable to suffer eye strain these days from simply staring at the same object 10 inches from your face for hours at a time than from anything inherent to the screen itself.
That said, even granting that it might be better for its dedicated purpose, the Kindle is still effectively the hardware word processor to the iPad's personal computer...
(http://i50.tinypic.com/348otn7.jpg)
Word processing typewriters apparently remain well suited enough for dedicated niche tasks that there's
still something of a market for them (http://www.typewriters.com/ibm-typewriters.html). A
negligibly small market, but a market nonetheless. But for most tasks, the personal computer almost immediately proved good enough to supplant them.
Whatever the market for e-readers might be (and Amazon has never, as far as I'm aware, released official Kindle sales figures), there's no way it approaches the relatively broader appeal of a general purpose device like. And, given current prices for these things ($259-$490 for a Kindle, $259 for a Nook, $199-$299 for a Sony Reader), I think a more general purpose device that is a good enough e-reader substitute has a great shot at dominating its single-purpose cousins on their turf.
We're already talking $200-$300 down for a
single purpose device. For $200 more initial investment (plus maybe the price of a slight increase in eye strain) you get a computer to go with it: A general purpose device that (whenever you're through reading Norman Mailer's* latest clap-trap about his waning libido) will let you watch a movie, surf the web, play a game, write an email, watch a live feed of a Cubs game... or whatever other possibilities come down the pike as the App Store continues to grow.
That's a trade-off I think more people looking at these choices than not would be willing to make.
This about covers it... (http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/27/three-reasons-why-the-ipad-will-kill-amazons-kindle/)
QuoteThe Kindle is too expensive for a single-purpose device.
Amazon really has two roads it can choose now. One would be to completely redo the Kindle, adding more functionality, speeding it up, and integrating touch, color, a Web browser and a new user interface.
The second option would be to strip the device to its bare bones and drop the price as much as possible. A lot of people will have a hard time justifying $500 for the lowest entry-level iPad and would probably choose a $100 Kindle if they were hoping to find a new device to replace their paper-book reading.
One more thing ...
Kindle's store and its reading application for the iPhone are both excellent, simple experiences for purchasing and consuming books. Amazon understands this market better than anyone and could easily sell more books on the iPad than Apple could through its new iTunes bookstore. Amazon also offers an excellent recommendation system, and I can envision some users opting for the Kindle application on their fancy new iPads.
And I don't find the arguments on the other side (http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/27/three-reasons-the-ipad-wont-kill-amazons-kindle/) terribly convincing.
*Or maybe the latest clap-trap from someone who's not dead.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 27, 2010, 10:20:58 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on January 27, 2010, 06:30:29 PM
The benefit of the Kindle is that it doesn't destroy your eyes. If you're looking strictly for an e-reader, then the iPad isn't a better device. It's more powerful and more useful in general, but it's not really a better e-reader.
Honestly, I think the notion that backlit displays are inherently harder on the eyes than reflected light is overblown. Whether light is reflected or not, it's still just photons being directed at my retina. Yeah, if the backlight is considerably brighter than the ambient, that can get harsh. But even then I can easily replicate the relatively low-contrast ratio of a Kindle display on my laptop just by ratcheting down the brightness 10 steps.
Perhaps a more reasonable knock against backlighting is the flicker. Florescent backlighting has the same constant high-frequency flicker as all florescent lighting, and I gather LED backlighting (as found in the iPad) uses rapid flickering to attenuate brightness.
But neither even begin to approach the eye-gouging associated with low-refresh-rate CRTs of yesteryear. I feel like you're more liable to suffer eye strain these days from simply staring at the same object 10 inches from your face for hours at a time than from anything inherent to the screen itself.
That said, even granting that it might be better for its dedicated purpose, the Kindle is still effectively the hardware word processor to the iPad's personal computer...
(http://i50.tinypic.com/348otn7.jpg)
Word processing typewriters apparently remain well suited enough for dedicated niche tasks that there's still something of a market for them (http://www.typewriters.com/ibm-typewriters.html). A negligibly small market, but a market nonetheless. But for most tasks, the personal computer almost immediately proved good enough to supplant them.
Whatever the market for e-readers might be (and Amazon has never, as far as I'm aware, released official Kindle sales figures), there's no way it approaches the relatively broader appeal of a general purpose device like. And, given current prices for these things ($259-$490 for a Kindle, $259 for a Nook, $199-$299 for a Sony Reader), I think a more general purpose device that is a good enough e-reader substitute has a great shot at dominating its single-purpose cousins on their turf.
We're already talking $200-$300 down for a single purpose device. For $200 more initial investment (plus maybe the price of a slight increase in eye strain) you get a computer to go with it: A general purpose device that (whenever you're through reading Norman Mailer's* latest clap-trap about his waning libido) will let you watch a movie, surf the web, play a game, write an email, watch a live feed of a Cubs game... or whatever other possibilities come down the pike as the App Store continues to grow.
That's a trade-off I think more people looking at these choices than not would be willing to make.
This about covers it... (http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/27/three-reasons-why-the-ipad-will-kill-amazons-kindle/)
QuoteThe Kindle is too expensive for a single-purpose device.
Amazon really has two roads it can choose now. One would be to completely redo the Kindle, adding more functionality, speeding it up, and integrating touch, color, a Web browser and a new user interface.
The second option would be to strip the device to its bare bones and drop the price as much as possible. A lot of people will have a hard time justifying $500 for the lowest entry-level iPad and would probably choose a $100 Kindle if they were hoping to find a new device to replace their paper-book reading.
One more thing ...
Kindle's store and its reading application for the iPhone are both excellent, simple experiences for purchasing and consuming books. Amazon understands this market better than anyone and could easily sell more books on the iPad than Apple could through its new iTunes bookstore. Amazon also offers an excellent recommendation system, and I can envision some users opting for the Kindle application on their fancy new iPads.
And I don't find the arguments on the other side (http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/27/three-reasons-the-ipad-wont-kill-amazons-kindle/) terribly convincing.
*Or maybe the latest clap-trap from someone who's not dead.
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I think at the current price point, it will end up being a disappointing device for most users.
It's too big to really be portable. Sure, it's fine for a plane ride or the train, but how many
people do those things on a regular basis. LCD screens are pretty much useless outside,
you're not going to use it at the beach or whatever. So it's not an ipod touch/iphone
replacement.
You're not going to do any "real work" on one. No physical keyboard, no mulitasking, fairly
underpowered, etc.
I also think people that buy it to be a netbook replacement / light usage pc will be
disappointed. Even if you're just an email, write a few documents, youtube, etc
user. Since it's built on the ipod/iphone OS without multi-threading even basic
work flows will be obnoxious. Particularly once you realize how annoying the lack of
a DVD drive and most importantly a usb connector is. And try and type a multi-page
document on a large on-screen keyboard.
If it had a front facing webcam at least I could see people buying it for grandma to
surf the web and skype (or equivalent).
As far as kindle goes, it has e-ink and free 3G (although not full web browsing ability).
It's catering to a different market. The people I know who own one love the e-ink
and free 3G. I don't get it either, but I don't see any of them considering the iPad
a competitor.
At the current price point, you could just buy an ipod touch with the same amount of
flash and then a nice netbook or notebook. In 6-12 months with more features at a
new price point it might be a compelling product, but right now I expect a lot of people
to regret buying them, particularly that 2 year $600 cell contract.
Quote from: Pre on January 28, 2010, 09:06:08 AM
I think at the current price point, it will end up being a disappointing device for most users.
It's too big to really be portable. Sure, it's fine for a plane ride or the train, but how many
people do those things on a regular basis. LCD screens are pretty much useless outside,
you're not going to use it at the beach or whatever. So it's not an ipod touch/iphone
replacement.
You're not going to do any "real work" on one. No physical keyboard, no mulitasking, fairly
underpowered, etc.
I also think people that buy it to be a netbook replacement / light usage pc will be
disappointed. Even if you're just an email, write a few documents, youtube, etc
user. Since it's built on the ipod/iphone OS without multi-threading even basic
work flows will be obnoxious. Particularly once you realize how annoying the lack of
a DVD drive and most importantly a usb connector is. And try and type a multi-page
document on a large on-screen keyboard.
If it had a front facing webcam at least I could see people buying it for grandma to
surf the web and skype (or equivalent).
As far as kindle goes, it has e-ink and free 3G (although not full web browsing ability).
It's catering to a different market. The people I know who own one love the e-ink
and free 3G. I don't get it either, but I don't see any of them considering the iPad
a competitor.
At the current price point, you could just buy an ipod touch with the same amount of
flash and then a nice netbook or notebook. In 6-12 months with more features at a
new price point it might be a compelling product, but right now I expect a lot of people
to regret buying them, particularly that 2 year $600 cell contract.
Good right up. Gonna have to wait and see how this plays out. Apple has done a pretty good job redefining what people think they need, so I won't be surprised if this is a success. And regarding the last part, there is no contract for using ATT, it's month to month.
Quote from: Pre on January 28, 2010, 09:06:08 AM
I think at the current price point, it will end up being a disappointing device for most users.
It's too big to really be portable. Sure, it's fine for a plane ride or the train, but how many
people do those things on a regular basis. LCD screens are pretty much useless outside,
you're not going to use it at the beach or whatever. So it's not an ipod touch/iphone
replacement.
You're not going to do any "real work" on one. No physical keyboard, no mulitasking, fairly
underpowered, etc.
I also think people that buy it to be a netbook replacement / light usage pc will be
disappointed. Even if you're just an email, write a few documents, youtube, etc
user. Since it's built on the ipod/iphone OS without multi-threading even basic
work flows will be obnoxious. Particularly once you realize how annoying the lack of
a DVD drive and most importantly a usb connector is. And try and type a multi-page
document on a large on-screen keyboard.
If it had a front facing webcam at least I could see people buying it for grandma to
surf the web and skype (or equivalent).
As far as kindle goes, it has e-ink and free 3G (although not full web browsing ability).
It's catering to a different market. The people I know who own one love the e-ink
and free 3G. I don't get it either, but I don't see any of them considering the iPad
a competitor.
At the current price point, you could just buy an ipod touch with the same amount of
flash and then a nice netbook or notebook. In 6-12 months with more features at a
new price point it might be a compelling product, but right now I expect a lot of people
to regret buying them, particularly that 2 year $600 cell contract.
Agreed. It would be cool if it was running the Chrome OS that Google will be putting on their machines in the future, where most storage, applications, etc. are done through the "cloud" and the amount of space on the machine isn't all that important. But when you're looking at $500 for the cheapest model, and only getting 16 GB of storage (which has to be used for music, books, videos, apps, etc.), the only benefit it has over a Touch is that the screen is larger. Third party developers on the jailbroken/unlocked iPhone/Touch OS have solved the multi-tasking issue, but it's obviously designed as a workaround for Apple's shortcomings and isn't as intuitive as it could be if the OS actually had it built in. I haven't ever used the Kindle, and don't know about the market for that thing, but it seems like if someone was just looking at the iPad for the eBook feature, the cheapest model is at least a better way to go than the Kindle DX.
Weebs just hit on the usefulness of this device: Jailbroken it could be a lot of fun.
Quote from: Pre on January 28, 2010, 09:06:08 AM
I think at the current price point, it will end up being a disappointing device for most users...
I don't think there's anything wrong with the price point. It'll go through the typical tumble down the Apple tree just like the iPods went from $399 to $299 to $199 to $149 and so on.
It has the same LCD screen technology as the iPhone and iPod touch, which are both actually great to use in sunlight, so no problem there. It's OLED that's shitty in the sun. Thank God Apple didn't kowtow to the gadget whiners demanding OLED. I've used my touch at the beach plenty of times, and the iPad has essentially the same screen except larger.
I agree with you on multitasking, but not physical keyboard (you can get a keyboard dock or use a BT keyboard if you must have the tactile feedback) or underpowered (the 1GHz chip is actually pretty sweet. iPhone is somewhere around 600MHz. All the hands-on reviews I've read said they were impressed with performance).
The camera connection kit actually comes with a USB adapter, but how many devices will it support is the question. Fortunately that's a software thing, so I'm pretty optimistic we'll get the drivers. And I'd expect they'll come up with some kind of beefed-up keyboard dock or perhaps iMac shell that will add an optical drive.
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Your general take, and you can correct me if I'm mischaracterizing, is that the device isn't ready for what it could be, and I agree completely with that. I think it needs the following to be a fantastic product:
1. Multitasking - There really is no excuse for crippling the hardware like this and limiting it to run one app at a time. If Steve Jobs wants this to compete with netbooks, this needs to be the first thing to go. Personally I'd rather have a touch-optimized version of Mac OS X that would let me run almost every app I have on my Mac, than the iPhone OS designed for a screen half the size that's on there now. This is a major misstep if it isn't fixed. Actually, I think Apple knows this, but the tech isn't ready yet. Let's hope they're working on it. You could have a special desktop to run widgets all the time like Twitter, Facebook, RSS readers, weather, whatever people want. Basically it would be Dashboard except on all the time. Like a HUD.
2. Cameras, two of them - One on the front for video chat, one on the back for still photos, home movies, YouTube, etc. The fact that the iPod nano has a video camera and the iPad doesn't is, frankly, a joke. I think they wanted one in there but had to pull it at the last minute for tech reasons. That happened with the latest iPod touch too. Probably waiting for quality to catch up with size, but come on. I've never seen a better video chat experience than what you can get with iChat ... it's better than Skype, especially AIM, and REALLY especially MSN. Use that know-how to make the iPad a do-it-all communications device. A mobile projector for enterprise and education is also a must.
3. Peripheral support - This thing needs to be able to sync iPods and iPhones, talk to cameras, printers, flash drives, hard drives, everything. There should be a USB adapter and a FireWire adapter. As someone with a journalism background, I would kill to be able to shoot video in the field, import it to an iPad, edit with Final Cut Touch, and upload to my station's ftp using the 3G network, all from the van. You can do this with laptops, yeah, but there's added overhead and hassle. This would just be a streamlined experience, intuitive, very slick. If anyone can do it, it's Apple. If this happens, it's a very big deal for bloggers, video journalists, etc.
4. Docks (intangible and tangible) - there should be a wide array of dock support. I want to be able to use this as a music player or radio in my car. I want to be able to control all my audio and video equipment at home with it. I want it to be my Home Command Center, controlling the thermostat, motorized blinds, garage door, etc. If that can be done with a wireless dock, some sort of proximity authentication, all the better.
5. Content - I think eBooks will be very popular on this once it takes off. Why buy a Kindle when a couple hundred more can get you one of these? And we all know Apple will lower the price, probably on the next revision. I want to be able to stream live TV on this thing. I think Apple is working on it, but it's been tough getting content providers on board. Web-enhanced programming would be awesome. There's all kinds of opportunities to have stat and box score widgets side-by-side with a game broadcast, you could have overlays on the screen to monitor other channels or scores, there could be a sidebar next to TV episodes with the name and artist of the song playing on that episode, with a handy iTunes "Buy" link right there that won't interrupt your program.
I'm probably missing some things, but those are the big ones I'm hoping they address for V 2.0.
And Weebs, thanks for the laugh on how cool it would be if Apple put Chrome OS on it.
TPD, to add screw Flash. There's some complaints that there's no support for it on the iPad, but the truth is Apple has a fiery hatred for all things Adobe Flash. It will never ever be on the iPhone or iPad. Never. For anyone who doesn't regularly use a Mac, Flash is written extremely poorly for the Mac platform compared to what you're used to on PC. And Adobe really doesn't give a shit to fix it. Easily the most common cause of browser crashes on OS X is thanks to evil Flash. Microsoft's Silverlight is a lame ripoff but at least it doesn't crash constantly. But still. I'm hitching my wagon to the < video > tag in HTML5. YouTube and Vimeo are already on board, hopefully more follow.
And if you have a Mac, try Clicktoflash. It's awesome.
Quote from: Day Man on January 28, 2010, 10:37:37 AM
And Adobe really doesn't give a shit to fix it.
While Adobe writes shitty software, that's not true. Since apple is strong arming them off the
iPhone/Touch and now the iPad, they're not exactly on good terms. Adobe would love nothing
more than deliver a flash for those apple devices.
That's another thing that's going to disappoint people. All the talk of how amazing it is for
tv/movies, people are going to buy them, go to hulu, then curse.
Like all apple products, you have to wait for v2.0 (particularly for pricing). It might be a successful
product. But it's off to a bad start.
Quote from: Pre on January 28, 2010, 10:43:17 AM
Quote from: Day Man on January 28, 2010, 10:37:37 AM
And Adobe really doesn't give a shit to fix it.
While Adobe writes shitty software, that's not true. Since apple is strong arming them off the
iPhone/Touch and now the iPad, they're not exactly on good terms. Adobe would love nothing
more than deliver a flash for those apple devices.
That's another thing that's going to disappoint people. All the talk of how amazing it is for
tv/movies, people are going to buy them, go to hulu, then curse.
Like all apple products, you have to wait for v2.0 (particularly for pricing). It might be a successful
product. But it's off to a bad start.
Chicken or the egg. Apple kept them off the iPhone in the first place precisely because Flash on Mac OS X is terrible. It's been terrible for a long time. Apple isn't amused. That hasn't changed, so it stays off.
As for Hulu, they're working on a solution, I'm sure.
A couple of clarification points to the above.
Apple will be offering a USB connector and a SD connector for the iPad (they attach to the 30 pin connector).
There is no contract committment at all associated with a 3G iPad. AT+Ts service plans of the iPad is month by month, and purchasable (and I assume but have not seen) cancelable on the iPad itself. I could imagine owning this as a "second computer" for the house, and then buy the 3G service while Im traveling.
In my mind, if Citrix provides App to run their VPN software (much like their Go toMyPC software) on this thing, it would allow me to travel without a laptop, and that would be a killer app indeed.
Quote from: thehawk on January 28, 2010, 02:31:27 PM
A couple of clarification points to the above.
Apple will be offering a USB connector and a SD connector for the iPad (they attach to the 30 pin connector).
There is no contract committment at all associated with a 3G iPad. AT+Ts service plans of the iPad is month by month, and purchasable (and I assume but have not seen) cancelable on the iPad itself. I could imagine owning this as a "second computer" for the house, and then buy the 3G service while Im traveling.
In my mind, if Citrix provides App to run their VPN software (much like their Go toMyPC software) on this thing, it would allow me to travel without a laptop, and that would be a killer app indeed.
At work I'm moving towards a virtual desktop, so I can start using any computer with an internet connection. For traveling, this computer would be pretty sweet.
Quote from: BH on January 28, 2010, 02:45:09 PM
Quote from: thehawk on January 28, 2010, 02:31:27 PM
A couple of clarification points to the above.
Apple will be offering a USB connector and a SD connector for the iPad (they attach to the 30 pin connector).
There is no contract committment at all associated with a 3G iPad. AT+Ts service plans of the iPad is month by month, and purchasable (and I assume but have not seen) cancelable on the iPad itself. I could imagine owning this as a "second computer" for the house, and then buy the 3G service while Im traveling.
In my mind, if Citrix provides App to run their VPN software (much like their Go toMyPC software) on this thing, it would allow me to travel without a laptop, and that would be a killer app indeed.
At work I'm moving towards a virtual desktop, so I can start using any computer with an internet connection. For traveling, this computer would be pretty sweet.
We get it, you're homeless.
Quote from: PenFoe on January 28, 2010, 02:49:48 PM
Quote from: BH on January 28, 2010, 02:45:09 PM
Quote from: thehawk on January 28, 2010, 02:31:27 PM
A couple of clarification points to the above.
Apple will be offering a USB connector and a SD connector for the iPad (they attach to the 30 pin connector).
There is no contract committment at all associated with a 3G iPad. AT+Ts service plans of the iPad is month by month, and purchasable (and I assume but have not seen) cancelable on the iPad itself. I could imagine owning this as a "second computer" for the house, and then buy the 3G service while Im traveling.
In my mind, if Citrix provides App to run their VPN software (much like their Go toMyPC software) on this thing, it would allow me to travel without a laptop, and that would be a killer app indeed.
At work I'm moving towards a virtual desktop, so I can start using any computer with an internet connection. For traveling, this computer would be pretty sweet.
We get it, you're homeless.
If the Kindle were made in Detroit, I'd totally just use that. For everything.
Quote from: BH on January 28, 2010, 02:50:36 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 28, 2010, 02:49:48 PM
Quote from: BH on January 28, 2010, 02:45:09 PM
Quote from: thehawk on January 28, 2010, 02:31:27 PM
A couple of clarification points to the above.
Apple will be offering a USB connector and a SD connector for the iPad (they attach to the 30 pin connector).
There is no contract committment at all associated with a 3G iPad. AT+Ts service plans of the iPad is month by month, and purchasable (and I assume but have not seen) cancelable on the iPad itself. I could imagine owning this as a "second computer" for the house, and then buy the 3G service while Im traveling.
In my mind, if Citrix provides App to run their VPN software (much like their Go toMyPC software) on this thing, it would allow me to travel without a laptop, and that would be a killer app indeed.
At work I'm moving towards a virtual desktop, so I can start using any computer with an internet connection. For traveling, this computer would be pretty sweet.
We get it, you're homeless.
If the Kindle were made in Detroit, I'd totally just use that. For everything.
What if it were made in Brolumbus? Then what?
Quote from: BH on January 28, 2010, 02:45:09 PM
Quote from: thehawk on January 28, 2010, 02:31:27 PM
In my mind, if Citrix provides App to run their VPN software (much like their Go toMyPC software) on this thing, it would allow me to travel without a laptop, and that would be a killer app indeed.
At work I'm moving towards a virtual desktop, so I can start using any computer with an internet connection. For traveling, this computer would be pretty sweet.
I'm not sure how traveling with and iPad is different than traveling with a netbook. The size isn't significantly smaller.
Do you have a job where you could get serious work done without a keyboard? It's an honest question. I sure as
hell couldn't (but that doesn't mean you can't). If you're carrying that and a keyboard it's definitely no smaller than
a netbook. What does the apple tablet have that makes it more useful than one of the several windows 7 or linux
tablet or convertible netbooks with a fully functional os? There's some pretty similar non-apple stuff coming out in the
next few months.
Some kind of VPN/remote desktop app would be nice, but I can't see it as a system selling point.
The iPad will never run a usable virtual machine if that's what you mean BH.
Quote from: Pre on January 28, 2010, 03:04:02 PM
Quote from: BH on January 28, 2010, 02:45:09 PM
Quote from: thehawk on January 28, 2010, 02:31:27 PM
In my mind, if Citrix provides App to run their VPN software (much like their Go toMyPC software) on this thing, it would allow me to travel without a laptop, and that would be a killer app indeed.
At work I'm moving towards a virtual desktop, so I can start using any computer with an internet connection. For traveling, this computer would be pretty sweet.
I'm not sure how traveling with and iPad is different than traveling with a netbook. The size isn't significantly smaller.
Do you have a job where you could get serious work done without a keyboard? It's an honest question. I sure as
hell couldn't (but that doesn't mean you can't). If you're carrying that and a keyboard it's definitely no smaller than
a netbook. What does the apple tablet have that makes it more useful than one of the several windows 7 or linux
tablet or convertible netbooks with a fully functional os? There's some pretty similar non-apple stuff coming out in the
next few months.
Some kind of VPN/remote desktop app would be nice, but I can't see it as a system selling point.
The iPad will never run a usable virtual machine if that's what you mean BH.
Anything with a internet connection will run the virtual machines at work.
I was thinking I could use the ipad with the keyboard. I'd just leave the keyboard at work.
(http://images.apple.com/ipad/design/images/accessories_20100127.jpg)
Quote from: BH on January 28, 2010, 03:07:53 PM
Anything with a internet connection will run the virtual machines at work.
Ok, so you're not talking about a VmWare/VirtualBox/Parallels/etc virtual machine,
you mean some form of remote desktop. Yeah, it can handle that.
You guys went 5 pages or so on Apple and Kindle?
Nerds. Go join a cult and quit muckin' up this board with your ridiculousness.
Quote from: JD on January 28, 2010, 05:08:56 PM
You guys went 5 pages or so on Apple and Kindle?
Nerds. Go join a cult and quit muckin' up this board with your ridiculousness.
This may seem forward, but I love you JD.
Quote from: CT III on January 28, 2010, 06:54:35 PM
Quote from: JD on January 28, 2010, 05:08:56 PM
You guys went 5 pages or so on Apple and Kindle?
Nerds. Go join a cult and quit muckin' up this board with your ridiculousness.
This may seem forward, but I love you JD.
It does seem a little forward, but, on the internets, I might kinda be into that.
Quote from: CT III on January 28, 2010, 06:54:35 PM
Quote from: JD on January 28, 2010, 05:08:56 PM
You guys went 5 pages or so on Apple and Kindle?
Nerds. Go join a cult and quit muckin' up this board with your ridiculousness.
This may seem forward, but I love you JD.
We spend a lot of posts getting sweaty with and high-fiving JD too. But it feels so good...
Quote from: Day Man on January 29, 2010, 10:50:25 AM
Quote from: CT III on January 28, 2010, 06:54:35 PM
Quote from: JD on January 28, 2010, 05:08:56 PM
You guys went 5 pages or so on Apple and Kindle?
Nerds. Go join a cult and quit muckin' up this board with your ridiculousness.
This may seem forward, but I love you JD.
We spend a lot of posts getting sweaty with and high-fiving JD too. But it feels so good...
(http://img.actressarchives.com/features/braingasm/Top-Gun-volleyball-Maverick.jpg)
Quote from: Fork on January 29, 2010, 10:54:11 AM
Quote from: Day Man on January 29, 2010, 10:50:25 AM
Quote from: CT III on January 28, 2010, 06:54:35 PM
Quote from: JD on January 28, 2010, 05:08:56 PM
You guys went 5 pages or so on Apple and Kindle?
Nerds. Go join a cult and quit muckin' up this board with your ridiculousness.
This may seem forward, but I love you JD.
We spend a lot of posts getting sweaty with and high-fiving JD too. But it feels so good...
(http://img.actressarchives.com/features/braingasm/Top-Gun-volleyball-Maverick.jpg)
That one always reminds me of
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3317/3197582692_f58238fd75.jpg)
Que QUE... (http://www.que.com/)
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 30, 2010, 04:14:26 PM
Que QUE... (http://www.que.com/)
Half tablet/half netbook. (http://gizmodo.com/5440922/ideapad-u1-hybrid-hands+on-meet-voltron-he-could-be-amazing)
Quote from: JD on January 28, 2010, 05:08:56 PM
You guys went 5 pages or so on Apple and Kindle?
Nerds. Go join a cult and quit muckin' up this board with your ridiculousness.
Sorry, let me do this proper desipio style:
Quote from: Pre
Quote from: Kurt
Quote from: Weebs
Quote from: Oleg
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Quote from: BH
I don't see the point of this, I can already listen to [some fucking band I'll hear of in a month] on my iPhone
Listening to music on an iPhone is a joke since the 3.1 OS update. Sansa Fuze is the only way to enjoy yourself.
While I enjoy the Fuze the iPhone and iPod touch are still good options
My brother can get you a grey market Fuze for only $78
In Canada I went to a store to buy an mp3 players. Yeah we have mp3 players in Canada! and some inane shit happened.
I wish you were dead. Really dead.
Quote from: MikeC
bouncing boobs and whatever the fuck he types about that I ignore because I only have eyes for that chick.
Quote from: CT
Quote from: JD
Quote from: TDubbs
Quote from: Fork
Quote from: TDubbs
Quote from: Fork
iPad? Sounds like a feminine hygiene product
Your mom's an iPad.
That's the best you could come up with.
You're the worst
Sup Y'all Dang!
Are they going to make a Dirt or tractor racing game for this thing or what?
You complete me
Quote from: ChuckD on January 30, 2010, 05:07:42 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 30, 2010, 04:14:26 PM
Que QUE... (http://www.que.com/)
Half tablet/half netbook. (http://gizmodo.com/5440922/ideapad-u1-hybrid-hands+on-meet-voltron-he-could-be-amazing)
*Note: Not an actual product.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 30, 2010, 05:17:29 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on January 30, 2010, 05:07:42 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 30, 2010, 04:14:26 PM
Que QUE... (http://www.que.com/)
Half tablet/half netbook. (http://gizmodo.com/5440922/ideapad-u1-hybrid-hands+on-meet-voltron-he-could-be-amazing)
*Note: Not an actual product.
¿Que?
Posted from my iPad.
Quote from: ChuckD on January 30, 2010, 05:47:03 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 30, 2010, 05:17:29 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on January 30, 2010, 05:07:42 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 30, 2010, 04:14:26 PM
Que QUE... (http://www.que.com/)
Half tablet/half netbook. (http://gizmodo.com/5440922/ideapad-u1-hybrid-hands+on-meet-voltron-he-could-be-amazing)
*Note: Not an actual product.
¿Que?
Posted from my iPad.
QuoteLet's clarify two things right away: first, the Ideapad U1 hybrid notebook tablet is still in the very rough stages of development. Second, it's going to be awesome—if it can live up to its potential.
http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=366
QuoteThe industry may be waiting for another famous (vaporware) product, but I highly doubt it will announce at our IdeaPad U1's planned $999 starting price point.
Adding: it occurs to me after the fact that the latter may be referring to the Microsoft Courier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Courier), which looks like textbook vaporware.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 30, 2010, 06:19:33 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on January 30, 2010, 05:47:03 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 30, 2010, 05:17:29 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on January 30, 2010, 05:07:42 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on January 30, 2010, 04:14:26 PM
Que QUE... (http://www.que.com/)
Half tablet/half netbook. (http://gizmodo.com/5440922/ideapad-u1-hybrid-hands+on-meet-voltron-he-could-be-amazing)
*Note: Not an actual product.
¿Que?
Posted from my iPad.
QuoteLet's clarify two things right away: first, the Ideapad U1 hybrid notebook tablet is still in the very rough stages of development. Second, it's going to be awesome—if it can live up to its potential.
QuoteThe Lenovo IdeaPad U1 hybrid notebook will be available June 1, 2010 with an estimated retail price of $999
vs.
QUE proReader with 4GB & Wi-Fi - Touchscreen eBook Reader from Plastic Logic (http://buyque.barnesandnoble.com/Home-and-Gift/e/814311010036/)
QuoteDELIVERY & GIFT DETAILS:
Available for Pre-Order
This item will be available on May 17.
Quote from: Pre on January 30, 2010, 05:10:11 PM
Quote from: JD on January 28, 2010, 05:08:56 PM
You guys went 5 pages or so on Apple and Kindle?
Nerds. Go join a cult and quit muckin' up this board with your ridiculousness.
Sorry, let me do this proper desipio style:
Quote from: Pre
Quote from: Kurt
Quote from: Weebs
Quote from: Oleg
Quote from: Slak
Quote from: BH
I don't see the point of this, I can already listen to [some fucking band I'll hear of in a month] on my iPhone
Listening to music on an iPhone is a joke since the 3.1 OS update. Sansa Fuze is the only way to enjoy yourself.
While I enjoy the Fuze the iPhone and iPod touch are still good options
My brother can get you a grey market Fuze for only $78
In Canada I went to a store to buy an mp3 players. Yeah we have mp3 players in Canada! and some inane shit happened.
I wish you were dead. Really dead.
Quote from: MikeC
bouncing boobs and whatever the fuck he types about that I ignore because I only have eyes for that chick.
Quote from: CT
Quote from: JD
Quote from: TDubbs
Quote from: Fork
Quote from: TDubbs
Quote from: Fork
iPad? Sounds like a feminine hygiene product
Your mom's an iPad.
That's the best you could come up with.
You're the worst
Sup Y'all Dang!
Are they going to make a Dirt or tractor racing game for this thing or what?
You complete me
LSA. +10. I support Pre.
Quote from: Brownie on January 30, 2010, 07:16:57 PM
Quote from: Pre on January 30, 2010, 05:10:11 PM
Quote from: JD on January 28, 2010, 05:08:56 PM
You guys went 5 pages or so on Apple and Kindle?
Nerds. Go join a cult and quit muckin' up this board with your ridiculousness.
Sorry, let me do this proper desipio style:
Quote from: Pre
Quote from: Kurt
Quote from: Weebs
Quote from: Oleg
Quote from: Slak
Quote from: BH
I don't see the point of this, I can already listen to [some fucking band I'll hear of in a month] on my iPhone
Listening to music on an iPhone is a joke since the 3.1 OS update. Sansa Fuze is the only way to enjoy yourself.
While I enjoy the Fuze the iPhone and iPod touch are still good options
My brother can get you a grey market Fuze for only $78
In Canada I went to a store to buy an mp3 players. Yeah we have mp3 players in Canada! and some inane shit happened.
I wish you were dead. Really dead.
Quote from: MikeC
bouncing boobs and whatever the fuck he types about that I ignore because I only have eyes for that chick.
Quote from: CT
Quote from: JD
Quote from: TDubbs
Quote from: Fork
Quote from: TDubbs
Quote from: Fork
iPad? Sounds like a feminine hygiene product
Your mom's an iPad.
That's the best you could come up with.
You're the worst
Sup Y'all Dang!
Are they going to make a Dirt or tractor racing game for this thing or what?
You complete me
LSA. +10. I support Pre.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2i29ame.jpg)
I'm conflicted. On one hand, I was in Pre's play. On the other, I don't know what Sansa Fuze is and I listen to music on my iPhone almost every day.
Dang?
Quote from: Pre on January 30, 2010, 05:10:11 PM
Quote from: JD on January 28, 2010, 05:08:56 PM
You guys went 5 pages or so on Apple and Kindle?
Nerds. Go join a cult and quit muckin' up this board with your ridiculousness.
Sorry, let me do this proper desipio style:
Quote from: Pre
Quote from: Kurt
Quote from: Weebs
Quote from: Oleg
Quote from: Slak
Quote from: BH
I don't see the point of this, I can already listen to [some fucking band I'll hear of in a month] on my iPhone
Listening to music on an iPhone is a joke since the 3.1 OS update. Sansa Fuze is the only way to enjoy yourself.
While I enjoy the Fuze the iPhone and iPod touch are still good options
My brother can get you a grey market Fuze for only $78
In Canada I went to a store to buy an mp3 players. Yeah we have mp3 players in Canada! and some inane shit happened.
I wish you were dead. Really dead.
Quote from: MikeC
bouncing boobs and whatever the fuck he types about that I ignore because I only have eyes for that chick.
Quote from: CT
Quote from: JD
Quote from: TDubbs
Quote from: Fork
Quote from: TDubbs
Quote from: Fork
iPad? Sounds like a feminine hygiene product
Your mom's an iPad.
That's the best you could come up with.
You're the worst
Sup Y'all Dang!
Are they going to make a Dirt or tractor racing game for this thing or what?
You complete me
That took a lot of time.
For me to read. I was about to lose interest and stop. But then I saw my name. So I finished it and liked it. I have, however, lost interest in THIS post.
Quote from: Slack-E on January 30, 2010, 10:40:53 PM
I'm conflicted. On one hand, I was in Pre's play. On the other, I don't know what Sansa Fuze is and I listen to music on my iPhone almost every day.
Dang?
SAP, y'all!
Quote from: JD on January 30, 2010, 10:41:41 PM
Quote from: Pre on January 30, 2010, 05:10:11 PM
Quote from: JD on January 28, 2010, 05:08:56 PM
You guys went 5 pages or so on Apple and Kindle?
Nerds. Go join a cult and quit muckin' up this board with your ridiculousness.
Sorry, let me do this proper desipio style:
Quote from: Pre
Quote from: Kurt
Quote from: Weebs
Quote from: Oleg
Quote from: Slak
Quote from: BH
I don't see the point of this, I can already listen to [some fucking band I'll hear of in a month] on my iPhone
Listening to music on an iPhone is a joke since the 3.1 OS update. Sansa Fuze is the only way to enjoy yourself.
While I enjoy the Fuze the iPhone and iPod touch are still good options
My brother can get you a grey market Fuze for only $78
In Canada I went to a store to buy an mp3 players. Yeah we have mp3 players in Canada! and some inane shit happened.
I wish you were dead. Really dead.
Quote from: MikeC
bouncing boobs and whatever the fuck he types about that I ignore because I only have eyes for that chick.
Quote from: CT
Quote from: JD
Quote from: TDubbs
Quote from: Fork
Quote from: TDubbs
Quote from: Fork
iPad? Sounds like a feminine hygiene product
Your mom's an iPad.
That's the best you could come up with.
You're the worst
Sup Y'all Dang!
Are they going to make a Dirt or tractor racing game for this thing or what?
You complete me
That took a lot of time.
For me to read. I was about to lose interest and stop. But then I saw my name. So I finished it and liked it. I have, however, lost interest in THIS post.
You complete me.
Quote from: Pre on January 30, 2010, 05:10:11 PM
Quote from: JD on January 28, 2010, 05:08:56 PM
You guys went 5 pages or so on Apple and Kindle?
Nerds. Go join a cult and quit muckin' up this board with your ridiculousness.
Sorry, let me do this proper desipio style:
Quote from: Pre
Quote from: Kurt
Quote from: Weebs
Quote from: Oleg
Quote from: Slak
Quote from: BH
I don't see the point of this, I can already listen to [some fucking band I'll hear of in a month] on my iPhone
Listening to music on an iPhone is a joke since the 3.1 OS update. Sansa Fuze is the only way to enjoy yourself.
While I enjoy the Fuze the iPhone and iPod touch are still good options
My brother can get you a grey market Fuze for only $78
In Canada I went to a store to buy an mp3 players. Yeah we have mp3 players in Canada! and some inane shit happened.
I wish you were dead. Really dead.
Quote from: MikeC
bouncing boobs and whatever the fuck he types about that I ignore because I only have eyes for that chick.
Quote from: CT
Quote from: JD
Quote from: TDubbs
Quote from: Fork
Quote from: TDubbs
Quote from: Fork
iPad? Sounds like a feminine hygiene product
Your mom's an iPad.
That's the best you could come up with.
You're the worst
Sup Y'all Dang!
Are they going to make a Dirt or tractor racing game for this thing or what?
You complete me
That's the best you can come up with.
Quote from: Fork on January 31, 2010, 12:05:20 AM
Quote from: Pre on January 30, 2010, 05:10:11 PM
Quote from: JD on January 28, 2010, 05:08:56 PM
You guys went 5 pages or so on Apple and Kindle?
Nerds. Go join a cult and quit muckin' up this board with your ridiculousness.
Sorry, let me do this proper desipio style:
Quote from: Pre
Quote from: Kurt
Quote from: Weebs
Quote from: Oleg
Quote from: Slak
Quote from: BH
I don't see the point of this, I can already listen to [some fucking band I'll hear of in a month] on my iPhone
Listening to music on an iPhone is a joke since the 3.1 OS update. Sansa Fuze is the only way to enjoy yourself.
While I enjoy the Fuze the iPhone and iPod touch are still good options
My brother can get you a grey market Fuze for only $78
In Canada I went to a store to buy an mp3 players. Yeah we have mp3 players in Canada! and some inane shit happened.
I wish you were dead. Really dead.
Quote from: MikeC
bouncing boobs and whatever the fuck he types about that I ignore because I only have eyes for that chick.
Quote from: CT
Quote from: JD
Quote from: TDubbs
Quote from: Fork
Quote from: TDubbs
Quote from: Fork
iPad? Sounds like a feminine hygiene product
Your mom's an iPad.
That's the best you could come up with.
You're the worst
Sup Y'all Dang!
Are they going to make a Dirt or tractor racing game for this thing or what?
You complete me
That's the best you can come up with.
Try to think of it as tail recursion.
For Jon. (http://panelfly.com/ipad/)
So the iPad is out today. Any of you nerds picking one up or having it delivered?
Quote from: Day Man on April 03, 2010, 12:27:32 AM
So the iPad is out today. Any of you nerds picking one up or having it delivered?
Tried one today at the Apple Store at old orchid (they have them in stock, by the way). They are fun to play with, and the MLB application is bacon covered tits with steak sauce. If it could run iChat and had a camera, I would certainly pick one up.
Quote from: thehawk on April 03, 2010, 06:00:25 PM
Quote from: Day Man on April 03, 2010, 12:27:32 AM
So the iPad is out today. Any of you nerds picking one up or having it delivered?
Tried one today at the Apple Store at old orchid (they have them in stock, by the way). They are fun to play with, and the MLB application is bacon covered tits with steak sauce. If it could run iChat and had a camera, I would certainly pick one up.
I'd like to be able to connect an external iSight to it through the dock connector. There's a USB adapter for cameras, so why not FireWire?
I tried it at the Best Buy as well. First impressions:
The touchscreen is unbelievably responsive. Almost too much-I consistently hit the wrong keys on the keyboard by trying to type too fast. Because of that, its really not an input device of any kind (yet). I tried to run some google docs on there to do some light word processing, but it was a bit rough. I could imagine that your fingers would adapt to it, but for now, its tough.
I think this thing will be to computers what the Wii was to video game consoles-an simple, user-friendly interface that allows people who do limited computer things (email, internet, pictures and simple games) to avoid having to deal with all the "bloatware" that comes with any computer. This seems like a device my mom would love.
As for me, I'll wait until Generation 2 comes out. I'm sure some of the bells and whistles the techie nerds like me are looking for will be included then.
The answer: YES. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAl28d6tbko&feature=player_embedded)
SeanBearPig won over the Muskrat (http://muskat.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/04/47_what_i_did_on_my_day_off.html)
http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/why-apple-could-sue-gawker-over-lost-iphone-story/19447570/
If this had happened while Leitch was still at Deadspin, I'd have been praying to the gods of Cupertino for Jobs to pull the lawsuit trigger and take as many pounds of flesh from Gawker as they could carry.
Now, I'm mostly indifferent, though Nick Denton still seems like an ass.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 21, 2010, 03:33:17 PM
http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/why-apple-could-sue-gawker-over-lost-iphone-story/19447570/
If this had happened while Leitch was still at Deadspin, I'd have been praying to the gods of Cupertino for Jobs to pull the lawsuit trigger and take as many pounds of flesh from Gawker as they could carry.
Now, I'm mostly indifferent, though Nick Denton still seems like an ass.
I'm still praying to those Gods. This is typical Gizmodo. The most arrogant, least informed major tech blog on the web.
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/04/22/steve-jobs-comes-out-of-the-calvinist-closet/
QuoteHowever, we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy and [sic] Android phone.
"You know, there's a porn store for Android," Jobs said. "You can download nothing but porn. You can download porn, your kids can download porn. That's a place we don't want to go, so we're not going to go there."
Quote from: R-V on April 22, 2010, 12:35:47 PM
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/04/22/steve-jobs-comes-out-of-the-calvinist-closet/
QuoteHowever, we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy and [sic] Android phone.
"You know, there's a porn store for Android," Jobs said. "You can download nothing but porn. You can download porn, your kids can download porn. That's a place we don't want to go, so we're not going to go there."
Why didn't I get an Android!?
Who the hell buys porn?
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 12:58:05 PM
Who the hell buys porn?
Very true. I'm sure www.youporn.com will open and play fine on the iPhone browser. Works fine on my browser
Quote from: Slaky on April 22, 2010, 12:39:07 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 22, 2010, 12:35:47 PM
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/04/22/steve-jobs-comes-out-of-the-calvinist-closet/
QuoteHowever, we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy and [sic] Android phone.
"You know, there's a porn store for Android," Jobs said. "You can download nothing but porn. You can download porn, your kids can download porn. That's a place we don't want to go, so we're not going to go there."
Why didn't I get an Android!?
So... Just how badly
do you want to be able to pay for that porn?
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2010/04/breaking-android-iphone/
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 01:05:53 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 22, 2010, 12:39:07 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 22, 2010, 12:35:47 PM
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/04/22/steve-jobs-comes-out-of-the-calvinist-closet/
QuoteHowever, we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy and [sic] Android phone.
"You know, there's a porn store for Android," Jobs said. "You can download nothing but porn. You can download porn, your kids can download porn. That's a place we don't want to go, so we're not going to go there."
Why didn't I get an Android!?
So... Just how badly do you want to be able to pay for that porn?
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2010/04/breaking-android-iphone/
Did you ever get an iphone?
Quote from: Yeti on April 22, 2010, 01:03:35 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 12:58:05 PM
Who the hell buys porn?
Very true. I'm sure www.youporn.com will open and play fine on the iPhone browser. Works fine on my browser
Yeah - good point. Gotcha, Jobs.
I've watched free naked ladies on my iPhone definitely a few times.
Quote from: BH on April 22, 2010, 01:08:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 01:05:53 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 22, 2010, 12:39:07 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 22, 2010, 12:35:47 PM
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/04/22/steve-jobs-comes-out-of-the-calvinist-closet/
QuoteHowever, we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy and [sic] Android phone.
"You know, there's a porn store for Android," Jobs said. "You can download nothing but porn. You can download porn, your kids can download porn. That's a place we don't want to go, so we're not going to go there."
Why didn't I get an Android!?
So... Just how badly do you want to be able to pay for that porn?
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2010/04/breaking-android-iphone/
Did you ever get an iphone?
No.
Quote from: Slaky on April 22, 2010, 01:47:25 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 22, 2010, 01:03:35 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 12:58:05 PM
Who the hell buys porn?
Very true. I'm sure www.youporn.com will open and play fine on the iPhone browser. Works fine on my browser
Yeah - good point. Gotcha, Jobs.
I've watched free naked ladies on my iPhone definitely a few times.
/Not saying
//Just saying
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 03:02:43 PM
Quote from: BH on April 22, 2010, 01:08:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 01:05:53 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 22, 2010, 12:39:07 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 22, 2010, 12:35:47 PM
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/04/22/steve-jobs-comes-out-of-the-calvinist-closet/
QuoteHowever, we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy and [sic] Android phone.
"You know, there's a porn store for Android," Jobs said. "You can download nothing but porn. You can download porn, your kids can download porn. That's a place we don't want to go, so we're not going to go there."
Why didn't I get an Android!?
So... Just how badly do you want to be able to pay for that porn?
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2010/04/breaking-android-iphone/
Did you ever get an iphone?
No.
But can the android get you a girl (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/23/women-more-likely-to-date_n_549176.html)?
Quote from: BH on April 23, 2010, 01:04:10 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 03:02:43 PM
Quote from: BH on April 22, 2010, 01:08:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 01:05:53 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 22, 2010, 12:39:07 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 22, 2010, 12:35:47 PM
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/04/22/steve-jobs-comes-out-of-the-calvinist-closet/
QuoteHowever, we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy and [sic] Android phone.
"You know, there's a porn store for Android," Jobs said. "You can download nothing but porn. You can download porn, your kids can download porn. That's a place we don't want to go, so we're not going to go there."
Why didn't I get an Android!?
So... Just how badly do you want to be able to pay for that porn?
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2010/04/breaking-android-iphone/
Did you ever get an iphone?
No.
But can the android get you a girl (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/23/women-more-likely-to-date_n_549176.html)?
Fuck. Me. In. The. Ass.
Quote from: Yeti on April 23, 2010, 01:12:39 PM
Quote from: BH on April 23, 2010, 01:04:10 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 03:02:43 PM
Quote from: BH on April 22, 2010, 01:08:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 01:05:53 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 22, 2010, 12:39:07 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 22, 2010, 12:35:47 PM
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/04/22/steve-jobs-comes-out-of-the-calvinist-closet/
QuoteHowever, we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy and [sic] Android phone.
"You know, there's a porn store for Android," Jobs said. "You can download nothing but porn. You can download porn, your kids can download porn. That's a place we don't want to go, so we're not going to go there."
Why didn't I get an Android!?
So... Just how badly do you want to be able to pay for that porn?
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2010/04/breaking-android-iphone/
Did you ever get an iphone?
No.
But can the android get you a girl (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/23/women-more-likely-to-date_n_549176.html)?
Fuck. Me. In. The. Ass.
Done.
Also, the wife and I need to upgrade our home PC. We're thinking of buying a laptop since all we really use the computer for is picture sharing on bookface and Shutterfly, the internet, bill paying, and the occasional Excel or Word file. Any recommendations?
Is the iPad = laptop or netbook? What the hell is the iPad, anyway...looks like a giant iPhone. Pretty colors...WANT
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2010, 01:27:15 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 23, 2010, 01:12:39 PM
Quote from: BH on April 23, 2010, 01:04:10 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 03:02:43 PM
Quote from: BH on April 22, 2010, 01:08:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 01:05:53 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 22, 2010, 12:39:07 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 22, 2010, 12:35:47 PM
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/04/22/steve-jobs-comes-out-of-the-calvinist-closet/
QuoteHowever, we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy and [sic] Android phone.
"You know, there's a porn store for Android," Jobs said. "You can download nothing but porn. You can download porn, your kids can download porn. That's a place we don't want to go, so we're not going to go there."
Why didn't I get an Android!?
So... Just how badly do you want to be able to pay for that porn?
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2010/04/breaking-android-iphone/
Did you ever get an iphone?
No.
But can the android get you a girl (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/23/women-more-likely-to-date_n_549176.html)?
Fuck. Me. In. The. Ass.
Done.
Also, the wife and I need to upgrade our home PC. We're thinking of buying a laptop since all we really use the computer for is picture sharing on bookface and Shutterfly, the internet, bill paying, and the occasional Excel or Word file. Any recommendations?
Is the iPad = laptop or netbook? What the hell is the iPad, anyway...looks like a giant iPhone. Pretty colors...WANT
Do you want your pc to be mobile? or will it sit at home ?
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2010, 01:27:15 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 23, 2010, 01:12:39 PM
Quote from: BH on April 23, 2010, 01:04:10 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 03:02:43 PM
Quote from: BH on April 22, 2010, 01:08:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 01:05:53 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 22, 2010, 12:39:07 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 22, 2010, 12:35:47 PM
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/04/22/steve-jobs-comes-out-of-the-calvinist-closet/
QuoteHowever, we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy and [sic] Android phone.
"You know, there's a porn store for Android," Jobs said. "You can download nothing but porn. You can download porn, your kids can download porn. That's a place we don't want to go, so we're not going to go there."
Why didn't I get an Android!?
So... Just how badly do you want to be able to pay for that porn?
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2010/04/breaking-android-iphone/
Did you ever get an iphone?
No.
But can the android get you a girl (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/23/women-more-likely-to-date_n_549176.html)?
Fuck. Me. In. The. Ass.
Done.
Also, the wife and I need to upgrade our home PC. We're thinking of buying a laptop since all we really use the computer for is picture sharing on bookface and Shutterfly, the internet, bill paying, and the occasional Excel or Word file. Any recommendations?
Is the iPad = laptop or netbook? What the hell is the iPad, anyway...looks like a giant iPhone. Pretty colors...WANT
You cant run Word or Excel on it, at least not yet.
It's fine for web, has some good apps and you can email.
Quote from: PenFoe on April 23, 2010, 01:36:12 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2010, 01:27:15 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 23, 2010, 01:12:39 PM
Quote from: BH on April 23, 2010, 01:04:10 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 03:02:43 PM
Quote from: BH on April 22, 2010, 01:08:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 01:05:53 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 22, 2010, 12:39:07 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 22, 2010, 12:35:47 PM
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/04/22/steve-jobs-comes-out-of-the-calvinist-closet/
QuoteHowever, we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy and [sic] Android phone.
"You know, there's a porn store for Android," Jobs said. "You can download nothing but porn. You can download porn, your kids can download porn. That's a place we don't want to go, so we're not going to go there."
Why didn't I get an Android!?
So... Just how badly do you want to be able to pay for that porn?
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2010/04/breaking-android-iphone/
Did you ever get an iphone?
No.
But can the android get you a girl (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/23/women-more-likely-to-date_n_549176.html)?
Fuck. Me. In. The. Ass.
Done.
Also, the wife and I need to upgrade our home PC. We're thinking of buying a laptop since all we really use the computer for is picture sharing on bookface and Shutterfly, the internet, bill paying, and the occasional Excel or Word file. Any recommendations?
Is the iPad = laptop or netbook? What the hell is the iPad, anyway...looks like a giant iPhone. Pretty colors...WANT
You cant run Word or Excel on it, at least not yet.
It's fine for web, has some good apps and you can email.
True, but... (https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=writely&passive=true&nui=1&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2F&followup=http%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2F<mpl=homepage&rm=false)
Quote from: ChuckD on April 23, 2010, 01:41:03 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on April 23, 2010, 01:36:12 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2010, 01:27:15 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 23, 2010, 01:12:39 PM
Quote from: BH on April 23, 2010, 01:04:10 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 03:02:43 PM
Quote from: BH on April 22, 2010, 01:08:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 01:05:53 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 22, 2010, 12:39:07 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 22, 2010, 12:35:47 PM
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/04/22/steve-jobs-comes-out-of-the-calvinist-closet/
QuoteHowever, we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy and [sic] Android phone.
"You know, there's a porn store for Android," Jobs said. "You can download nothing but porn. You can download porn, your kids can download porn. That's a place we don't want to go, so we're not going to go there."
Why didn't I get an Android!?
So... Just how badly do you want to be able to pay for that porn?
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2010/04/breaking-android-iphone/
Did you ever get an iphone?
No.
But can the android get you a girl (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/23/women-more-likely-to-date_n_549176.html)?
Fuck. Me. In. The. Ass.
Done.
Also, the wife and I need to upgrade our home PC. We're thinking of buying a laptop since all we really use the computer for is picture sharing on bookface and Shutterfly, the internet, bill paying, and the occasional Excel or Word file. Any recommendations?
Is the iPad = laptop or netbook? What the hell is the iPad, anyway...looks like a giant iPhone. Pretty colors...WANT
You cant run Word or Excel on it, at least not yet.
It's fine for web, has some good apps and you can email.
True, but... (https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=writely&passive=true&nui=1&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2F&followup=http%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2F<mpl=homepage&rm=false)
Also, no Flash support, so you would want to make sure your photo web sites dont need it. Pretty sure that an Ipad can open and modify Office docs using the apple spreadsheet and word processing programs also, but the iPad is more an adjunct to a computer than a replacement for one.
Quote from: BH on April 23, 2010, 01:35:25 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2010, 01:27:15 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 23, 2010, 01:12:39 PM
Quote from: BH on April 23, 2010, 01:04:10 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 03:02:43 PM
Quote from: BH on April 22, 2010, 01:08:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 01:05:53 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 22, 2010, 12:39:07 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 22, 2010, 12:35:47 PM
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/04/22/steve-jobs-comes-out-of-the-calvinist-closet/
QuoteHowever, we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy and [sic] Android phone.
"You know, there's a porn store for Android," Jobs said. "You can download nothing but porn. You can download porn, your kids can download porn. That's a place we don't want to go, so we're not going to go there."
Why didn't I get an Android!?
So... Just how badly do you want to be able to pay for that porn?
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2010/04/breaking-android-iphone/
Did you ever get an iphone?
No.
But can the android get you a girl (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/23/women-more-likely-to-date_n_549176.html)?
Fuck. Me. In. The. Ass.
Done.
Also, the wife and I need to upgrade our home PC. We're thinking of buying a laptop since all we really use the computer for is picture sharing on bookface and Shutterfly, the internet, bill paying, and the occasional Excel or Word file. Any recommendations?
Is the iPad = laptop or netbook? What the hell is the iPad, anyway...looks like a giant iPhone. Pretty colors...WANT
Do you want your pc to be mobile? or will it sit at home ?
We would love to be able to take it with us when visiting family or going on vacations. It's just nice to have. I don't do any gaming on it at all. Just surfing the web.
Our sexratary just bought a Macbook and brought it to my desk. It's pretty and shiny and smells new and has lights under the keyboard and the little icons bounce when you click them. I like it...
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2010, 03:06:24 PM
Quote from: BH on April 23, 2010, 01:35:25 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2010, 01:27:15 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 23, 2010, 01:12:39 PM
Quote from: BH on April 23, 2010, 01:04:10 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 03:02:43 PM
Quote from: BH on April 22, 2010, 01:08:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 01:05:53 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 22, 2010, 12:39:07 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 22, 2010, 12:35:47 PM
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/04/22/steve-jobs-comes-out-of-the-calvinist-closet/
QuoteHowever, we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy and [sic] Android phone.
"You know, there's a porn store for Android," Jobs said. "You can download nothing but porn. You can download porn, your kids can download porn. That's a place we don't want to go, so we're not going to go there."
Why didn't I get an Android!?
So... Just how badly do you want to be able to pay for that porn?
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2010/04/breaking-android-iphone/
Did you ever get an iphone?
No.
But can the android get you a girl (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/23/women-more-likely-to-date_n_549176.html)?
Fuck. Me. In. The. Ass.
Done.
Also, the wife and I need to upgrade our home PC. We're thinking of buying a laptop since all we really use the computer for is picture sharing on bookface and Shutterfly, the internet, bill paying, and the occasional Excel or Word file. Any recommendations?
Is the iPad = laptop or netbook? What the hell is the iPad, anyway...looks like a giant iPhone. Pretty colors...WANT
Do you want your pc to be mobile? or will it sit at home ?
We would love to be able to take it with us when visiting family or going on vacations. It's just nice to have. I don't do any gaming on it at all. Just surfing the web.
Our sexratary just bought a Macbook and brought it to my desk. It's pretty and shiny and smells new and has lights under the keyboard and the little icons bounce when you click them. I like it...
I'm afraid to visit this (http://www.swoopo.com/) site much, due to my fear of being addicted to it and buying way too much stuff, but a friend got a decent deal on a macbook pros on there.. it's a combination of ebay and a gambling site.
anyone try this site before? it looks crazy to me.. like a giant f'ng raffle... not sure how you could get a good deal in looking at the odds here.. but it looks fun.
Quote from: BH on April 23, 2010, 03:26:39 PM
I'm afraid to visit this (http://www.swoopo.com/) site much, due to my fear of being addicted to it and buying way too much stuff, but a friend got a decent deal on a macbook pros on there.. it's a combination of ebay and a gambling site.
anyone try this site before? it looks crazy to me.. like a giant f'ng raffle... not sure how you could get a good deal in looking at the odds here.. but it looks fun.
I've seen it described as more or less a dollar auction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_auction) in action, through which incremental rational choices lead to an ultimately irrational outcome.
Here's a good summary...
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2008/12/profitable-until-deemed-illegal.html
QuoteI just watched an 8GB Apple iPod Touch sell on swoopo for $187.65. The final price means a total of 1,251 bids were placed for this item, costing bidders a grand total of $938.25.
So that $229 item ultimately sold for $1,125.90.
But that one final bidder got a great deal, right? Maybe. Even when you win, you can lose. Remember that each bid costs you 75 cents, while only increasing the price of the item 15 cents. If you bid too many times on an item -- or if you use the site's "helpful" automated BidButler service (http://www.swoopo.com/bidbutlerhelp.html), which bids on your behalf -- you'll end up paying the purchase price in bids alone. For this item, if you bid more than 305 times, you've paid the purchase price -- and only raised the cost of the item by $45.75 total.
OK, so bidding a lot is a bad idea, so maybe we only bid one time, or a few times, and near the end of the auction? Great plan, except the auction is extended 15 seconds each and every time someone bids in those final seconds. There are absolute end dates for the auctions, but they're usually so far in the future that the auction will end through attrition long before they reach their end date. I've often wondered if eBay would implement this feature, as it would effectively end last second sniping, a huge problem for auction sites. Well, beyond the obvious problem with auctions, which is that the most optimistic person sets the price for everyone else.
There's something else at work here, though, and it's almost an exploit of human nature itself. Once you've bid on something a few times, you now have a vested financial interest in that product, a product someone else could end up winning, rendering your investment moot. This often leads to irrational decisionmaking -- something called the endowment effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endowment_effect), which has even been observed in chimpanzees (http://www.livescience.com/animals/071008-chimp-endowment.html). So instead of doing the rational thing and walking away from a bad investment, you pour more money in, sending good money after bad.
...
In short, swoopo is about as close to pure, distilled evil in a business plan as I've ever seen. They get paid for everything up front, and as they drop ship everything there's no inventory or overhead to worry about. It is almost brilliantly evil, in a sort of evil genius way. You can't stop people from endowment effect fueled bidding when they have the individual chance, however small it may be, to win a $2,000 television for $80 -- while collectively sending the house $10,000 or more.
It really is a brilliant scheme based on exploiting basic economic concepts.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2010, 03:06:24 PM
Quote from: BH on April 23, 2010, 01:35:25 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2010, 01:27:15 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 23, 2010, 01:12:39 PM
Quote from: BH on April 23, 2010, 01:04:10 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 03:02:43 PM
Quote from: BH on April 22, 2010, 01:08:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 22, 2010, 01:05:53 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 22, 2010, 12:39:07 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 22, 2010, 12:35:47 PM
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/04/22/steve-jobs-comes-out-of-the-calvinist-closet/
QuoteHowever, we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy and [sic] Android phone.
“You know, there’s a porn store for Android,” Jobs said. “You can download nothing but porn. You can download porn, your kids can download porn. That’s a place we don’t want to go, so we’re not going to go there.”
Why didn't I get an Android!?
So... Just how badly do you want to be able to pay for that porn?
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2010/04/breaking-android-iphone/
Did you ever get an iphone?
No.
But can the android get you a girl (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/23/women-more-likely-to-date_n_549176.html)?
Fuck. Me. In. The. Ass.
Done.
Also, the wife and I need to upgrade our home PC. We're thinking of buying a laptop since all we really use the computer for is picture sharing on bookface and Shutterfly, the internet, bill paying, and the occasional Excel or Word file. Any recommendations?
Is the iPad = laptop or netbook? What the hell is the iPad, anyway...looks like a giant iPhone. Pretty colors...WANT
Do you want your pc to be mobile? or will it sit at home ?
We would love to be able to take it with us when visiting family or going on vacations. It's just nice to have. I don't do any gaming on it at all. Just surfing the web.
Our sexratary just bought a Macbook and brought it to my desk. It's pretty and shiny and smells new and has lights under the keyboard and the little icons bounce when you click them. I like it...
For just surfing the web and occasionally working on some documents (on Pages (http://www.apple.com/ipad/features/pages.html), Numbers (http://www.apple.com/ipad/features/numbers.html), and Keynote (http://www.apple.com/ipad/features/keynote.html)) an iPad might be worth checking out. It'll go anywhere, you can use it with a Bluetooth keyboard, it'll be nice to show pictures to the family you're visiting with it, and if you get the 3G + WiFi version, you'll have internet access almost wherever you go. The cellular data plan is a really good deal: $15 for 250 MB per month, $30 for unlimited. No contract. You can start and stop at any time from the device itself. It will warn you when you approach your limit, and offer to bump you up to unlimited to help save money. It's set up so you can pay only for what you need.
Of course, you can get a netbook cheaper, but the build quality and performance isn't always the best. Still, there are quality netbooks out there that could do the same thing and bring Flash support (although the App Store and more and more sites moving to HTML5 are starting to weaken that drawback). There's also the big rumor that Hulu will launch its app sometime in May. I'd suggest visiting an Apple Store and trying one out to see what you think. Might also be worth waiting to see if Hulu comes around. If you're a subscriber to MLB.tv, the dedicated iPad app (http://www.apple.com/ipad/apps-for-ipad/#mlb) could also be a selling point.
Basically, you'll have to decide if it's worth the premium to pay on top of a netbook or the low to mid-range of affordable notebook PCs.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 23, 2010, 04:01:45 PM
Quote from: BH on April 23, 2010, 03:26:39 PM
I'm afraid to visit this (http://www.swoopo.com/) site much, due to my fear of being addicted to it and buying way too much stuff, but a friend got a decent deal on a macbook pros on there.. it's a combination of ebay and a gambling site.
anyone try this site before? it looks crazy to me.. like a giant f'ng raffle... not sure how you could get a good deal in looking at the odds here.. but it looks fun.
I've seen it described as more or less a dollar auction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_auction) in action, through which incremental rational choices lead to an ultimately irrational outcome.
Here's a good summary...
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2008/12/profitable-until-deemed-illegal.html
QuoteI just watched an 8GB Apple iPod Touch sell on swoopo for $187.65. The final price means a total of 1,251 bids were placed for this item, costing bidders a grand total of $938.25.
So that $229 item ultimately sold for $1,125.90.
But that one final bidder got a great deal, right? Maybe. Even when you win, you can lose. Remember that each bid costs you 75 cents, while only increasing the price of the item 15 cents. If you bid too many times on an item -- or if you use the site's "helpful" automated BidButler service (http://www.swoopo.com/bidbutlerhelp.html), which bids on your behalf -- you'll end up paying the purchase price in bids alone. For this item, if you bid more than 305 times, you've paid the purchase price -- and only raised the cost of the item by $45.75 total.
OK, so bidding a lot is a bad idea, so maybe we only bid one time, or a few times, and near the end of the auction? Great plan, except the auction is extended 15 seconds each and every time someone bids in those final seconds. There are absolute end dates for the auctions, but they're usually so far in the future that the auction will end through attrition long before they reach their end date. I've often wondered if eBay would implement this feature, as it would effectively end last second sniping, a huge problem for auction sites. Well, beyond the obvious problem with auctions, which is that the most optimistic person sets the price for everyone else.
There's something else at work here, though, and it's almost an exploit of human nature itself. Once you've bid on something a few times, you now have a vested financial interest in that product, a product someone else could end up winning, rendering your investment moot. This often leads to irrational decisionmaking -- something called the endowment effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endowment_effect), which has even been observed in chimpanzees (http://www.livescience.com/animals/071008-chimp-endowment.html). So instead of doing the rational thing and walking away from a bad investment, you pour more money in, sending good money after bad.
...
In short, swoopo is about as close to pure, distilled evil in a business plan as I've ever seen. They get paid for everything up front, and as they drop ship everything there's no inventory or overhead to worry about. It is almost brilliantly evil, in a sort of evil genius way. You can't stop people from endowment effect fueled bidding when they have the individual chance, however small it may be, to win a $2,000 television for $80 -- while collectively sending the house $10,000 or more.
It really is a brilliant scheme based on exploiting basic economic concepts.
They really move rapidly to Step 6 Profit ..
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 23, 2010, 01:27:15 PM
...picture sharing on bookface and Shutterfly...
Kind of off-topic, but some unsolicited two cents...
I'm pretty sure Shutterfly (just like Snapfish, Kodak Gallery and various other photo sharing sites) doesn't allow full-resolution downloads of images you upload. Their business model is to lock you and the people you share your photos with into ordering prints through them. If anyone just wants to print them out themselves at home or do anything with them not offered through Shutterfly, it's either tough titties or time to bug you guys to email them the original pic separately.
My sister-in-law used to send pics of my nephew through Kodak Gallery and I found this lock-in pretty annoying. Now they just send new pics around as email attachments. Probably more of a hassle, and less elegant, but it gets the job done.
If it were me, I'd use Flickr. It allows you to share albums of photos, which can be viewed as slideshows, and you can enable full-res downloads if you so choose. I believe they even offer print fulfillment through corporate partner(s), but I've never used that so I'm not sure how it works.
(The trade-off with Flickr is that free accounts are limited to 100MB worth of uploads per month and they only display your 200 most recent uploads. For anything beyond that, you'll have to pony up $24.95 per year for a "Pro" account.)
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/29/jon-stewart-slams-steve-j_n_556629.html
Quote from: Oleg on April 29, 2010, 12:06:52 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/29/jon-stewart-slams-steve-j_n_556629.html
He seems to have blown the Logan's Run reference.
Quote from: Oleg on April 29, 2010, 12:06:52 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/29/jon-stewart-slams-steve-j_n_556629.html
Anyone else find Stewart's "meet me at camera three" bits generally tedious?
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 29, 2010, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: Oleg on April 29, 2010, 12:06:52 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/29/jon-stewart-slams-steve-j_n_556629.html
Anyone else find Stewart's "meet me at camera three" bits generally tedious?
I find you tedious.
Quote from: Ivy6 on April 29, 2010, 07:00:24 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 29, 2010, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: Oleg on April 29, 2010, 12:06:52 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/29/jon-stewart-slams-steve-j_n_556629.html
Anyone else find Stewart's "meet me at camera three" bits generally tedious?
I find you tedious.
I like you. Maybe you'd like me if you got to know me better.
I'm no Margaret Cho, but I do do a pretty fair Columbo...
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 30, 2010, 11:15:02 AM
Quote from: Ivy6 on April 29, 2010, 07:00:24 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 29, 2010, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: Oleg on April 29, 2010, 12:06:52 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/29/jon-stewart-slams-steve-j_n_556629.html
Anyone else find Stewart's "meet me at camera three" bits generally tedious?
I find you tedious.
I like you. Maybe you'd like me if you got to know me better.
I'm no Margaret Cho, but I do do a pretty fair Columbo...
This would have made me LOL if you could have found a photo of the goofy looking face that Homer makes shortly thereafter.
Otherwise, meh.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 30, 2010, 11:30:49 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 30, 2010, 11:15:02 AM
Quote from: Ivy6 on April 29, 2010, 07:00:24 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 29, 2010, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: Oleg on April 29, 2010, 12:06:52 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/29/jon-stewart-slams-steve-j_n_556629.html
Anyone else find Stewart's "meet me at camera three" bits generally tedious?
I find you tedious.
I like you. Maybe you'd like me if you got to know me better.
I'm no Margaret Cho, but I do do a pretty fair Columbo...
This would have made me LOL if you could have found a photo of the goofy looking face that Homer makes shortly thereafter.
Otherwise, meh tedious.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/zjbgo9.jpg)
I should get a glass of water.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 30, 2010, 01:41:41 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 30, 2010, 11:30:49 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 30, 2010, 11:15:02 AM
Quote from: Ivy6 on April 29, 2010, 07:00:24 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 29, 2010, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: Oleg on April 29, 2010, 12:06:52 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/29/jon-stewart-slams-steve-j_n_556629.html
Anyone else find Stewart's "meet me at camera three" bits generally tedious?
I find you tedious.
I like you. Maybe you'd like me if you got to know me better.
I'm no Margaret Cho, but I do do a pretty fair Columbo...
This would have made me LOL if you could have found a photo of the goofy looking face that Homer makes shortly thereafter.
Otherwise, meh tedious.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/zjbgo9.jpg)
I should get a glass of water.
Well done, good sir.
Joe Posnanski likes his iPad
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2010/05/13/here-on-gilligans-isle/
QuoteMy extensive iPad review is still coming, but for now I do think it's worth answering one question that I have received from several brilliant readers: "What's the big deal about the iPad?"
OK, so we all know the iPad is smaller than a Sports Illustrated magazine and thinner than the Swimsuit Issue. And here are some of the things I did with it yesterday:
1. Watch innings of several baseball games on television.
2. Listen to innings of several baseball games on radio.
3. Watch NBA playoff highlights.
4. Read a section of Bill James' Historical Abstract and part of Nelson Mandela's autobiography.
5. Listen to the latest weather reports as wind howled outside.
6. Scan the Internet for news about Stephen Strasburg.
7. Play pinball.
8. Sample the new Keane album.
9. Update and check my calendar.
10. Respond to several emails.
11. Put together a couple of outline charts for upcoming stories.
12. Write sections of upcoming stories.
13. Shop at Amazon.
14. Play a Justin Bieber video for daughters.
15. Read an interactive Toy Story book to youngest daughter.
16. Play this addictive diner game.
17. Score the first couple of innings of the Royals-Indians game.
18. Watch snippets of a couple of ABC shows.
19. Instant message a friend who was gone.
20. Look up Tina Louise on the amazing IMDB app.
21. Scan the New York Times and Kansas City Star.
22. Instantly look up words I wasn't entirely sure about.
23. Make a list of story ideas I'd like to do in the next couple of months.
24. Do some soccer study for the upcoming World Cup.
25. Check to see if there were any new fun apps. Download this silly app that allows me to make Zen Gardens out of sand and stone.
26. Make several Zen Gardens out of sand and stone.
27. Check out Entertainment Weekly's Ten Things to Watch.
That's a pretty typical day, honestly. I did these things in a restaurant, in a coffee shop, in bed, while sitting in my recliner and watching television. Some days I do more work on it. Some days I watch a movie. Now, we have become conditioned to technology, many of us, and so the list might not impress you. You can do most, maybe even all, these things on the iPhone or on your mobile device. Certainly on your computer. Most of the iPad reviews I read talk a lot about what the iPad does not do — play Flash, have a camera, run multiple apps at once and so on. All true.
But I'm not a technology writer. I'm just a guy who grew up in the 1970s. And I like to look at it another way — we're living in the Jetsons. I can WATCH ANY BASEBALL GAME on this little folder-sized television that I carry around with me? And read books on it (and it's a much better reading experience than the computer — night and day better). And listen to music on it? And watch movies? And send letters to people that reaches them instantly? And get letters back from the in return? And do my work on it? And shop on it? And play games on it? And so on and so on and so on and every single day it gets better because someone invents some new app that pushes its limits. This all happens later in the same life when "Merlin"** was the cutting edge of technology.
**Where's Merlin now?/He's not there/He's out with Billy/playing Magic Square.
I'm not saying you want an iPad or need one (or any of the upcoming tablets) — I don't get commission. I'm just saying, what's the big deal? It's a computer and television and radio and newspaper and book and magazine and game console and Internet the size of a piece of paper and the width of a Mitch Albom book. It's freaking amazing, that's the big deal.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on May 14, 2010, 02:02:46 PM
Joe Posnanski likes his iPad
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2010/05/13/here-on-gilligans-isle/
QuoteMy extensive iPad review is still coming, but for now I do think it's worth answering one question that I have received from several brilliant readers: "What's the big deal about the iPad?"
OK, so we all know the iPad is smaller than a Sports Illustrated magazine and thinner than the Swimsuit Issue. And here are some of the things I did with it yesterday:
1. Watch innings of several baseball games on television.
2. Listen to innings of several baseball games on radio.
3. Watch NBA playoff highlights.
4. Read a section of Bill James' Historical Abstract and part of Nelson Mandela's autobiography.
5. Listen to the latest weather reports as wind howled outside.
6. Scan the Internet for news about Stephen Strasburg.
7. Play pinball.
8. Sample the new Keane album.
9. Update and check my calendar.
10. Respond to several emails.
11. Put together a couple of outline charts for upcoming stories.
12. Write sections of upcoming stories.
13. Shop at Amazon.
14. Play a Justin Bieber video for daughters.
15. Read an interactive Toy Story book to youngest daughter.
16. Play this addictive diner game.
17. Score the first couple of innings of the Royals-Indians game.
18. Watch snippets of a couple of ABC shows.
19. Instant message a friend who was gone.
20. Look up Tina Louise on the amazing IMDB app.
21. Scan the New York Times and Kansas City Star.
22. Instantly look up words I wasn't entirely sure about.
23. Make a list of story ideas I'd like to do in the next couple of months.
24. Do some soccer study for the upcoming World Cup.
25. Check to see if there were any new fun apps. Download this silly app that allows me to make Zen Gardens out of sand and stone.
26. Make several Zen Gardens out of sand and stone.
27. Check out Entertainment Weekly's Ten Things to Watch.
That's a pretty typical day, honestly. I did these things in a restaurant, in a coffee shop, in bed, while sitting in my recliner and watching television. Some days I do more work on it. Some days I watch a movie. Now, we have become conditioned to technology, many of us, and so the list might not impress you. You can do most, maybe even all, these things on the iPhone or on your mobile device. Certainly on your computer. Most of the iPad reviews I read talk a lot about what the iPad does not do — play Flash, have a camera, run multiple apps at once and so on. All true.
But I'm not a technology writer. I'm just a guy who grew up in the 1970s. And I like to look at it another way — we're living in the Jetsons. I can WATCH ANY BASEBALL GAME on this little folder-sized television that I carry around with me? And read books on it (and it's a much better reading experience than the computer — night and day better). And listen to music on it? And watch movies? And send letters to people that reaches them instantly? And get letters back from the in return? And do my work on it? And shop on it? And play games on it? And so on and so on and so on and every single day it gets better because someone invents some new app that pushes its limits. This all happens later in the same life when "Merlin"** was the cutting edge of technology.
**Where's Merlin now?/He's not there/He's out with Billy/playing Magic Square.
I'm not saying you want an iPad or need one (or any of the upcoming tablets) — I don't get commission. I'm just saying, what's the big deal? It's a computer and television and radio and newspaper and book and magazine and game console and Internet the size of a piece of paper and the width of a Mitch Albom book. It's freaking amazing, that's the big deal.
28-30. Jerked off to old George Brett highlights.
Quote from: PenPho on May 14, 2010, 02:05:32 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on May 14, 2010, 02:02:46 PM
Joe Posnanski likes his iPad
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2010/05/13/here-on-gilligans-isle/
QuoteMy extensive iPad review is still coming, but for now I do think it's worth answering one question that I have received from several brilliant readers: "What's the big deal about the iPad?"
OK, so we all know the iPad is smaller than a Sports Illustrated magazine and thinner than the Swimsuit Issue. And here are some of the things I did with it yesterday:
1. Watch innings of several baseball games on television.
2. Listen to innings of several baseball games on radio.
3. Watch NBA playoff highlights.
4. Read a section of Bill James' Historical Abstract and part of Nelson Mandela's autobiography.
5. Listen to the latest weather reports as wind howled outside.
6. Scan the Internet for news about Stephen Strasburg.
7. Play pinball.
8. Sample the new Keane album.
9. Update and check my calendar.
10. Respond to several emails.
11. Put together a couple of outline charts for upcoming stories.
12. Write sections of upcoming stories.
13. Shop at Amazon.
14. Play a Justin Bieber video for daughters.
15. Read an interactive Toy Story book to youngest daughter.
16. Play this addictive diner game.
17. Score the first couple of innings of the Royals-Indians game.
18. Watch snippets of a couple of ABC shows.
19. Instant message a friend who was gone.
20. Look up Tina Louise on the amazing IMDB app.
21. Scan the New York Times and Kansas City Star.
22. Instantly look up words I wasn't entirely sure about.
23. Make a list of story ideas I'd like to do in the next couple of months.
24. Do some soccer study for the upcoming World Cup.
25. Check to see if there were any new fun apps. Download this silly app that allows me to make Zen Gardens out of sand and stone.
26. Make several Zen Gardens out of sand and stone.
27. Check out Entertainment Weekly's Ten Things to Watch.
That's a pretty typical day, honestly. I did these things in a restaurant, in a coffee shop, in bed, while sitting in my recliner and watching television. Some days I do more work on it. Some days I watch a movie. Now, we have become conditioned to technology, many of us, and so the list might not impress you. You can do most, maybe even all, these things on the iPhone or on your mobile device. Certainly on your computer. Most of the iPad reviews I read talk a lot about what the iPad does not do — play Flash, have a camera, run multiple apps at once and so on. All true.
But I'm not a technology writer. I'm just a guy who grew up in the 1970s. And I like to look at it another way — we're living in the Jetsons. I can WATCH ANY BASEBALL GAME on this little folder-sized television that I carry around with me? And read books on it (and it's a much better reading experience than the computer — night and day better). And listen to music on it? And watch movies? And send letters to people that reaches them instantly? And get letters back from the in return? And do my work on it? And shop on it? And play games on it? And so on and so on and so on and every single day it gets better because someone invents some new app that pushes its limits. This all happens later in the same life when "Merlin"** was the cutting edge of technology.
**Where's Merlin now?/He's not there/He's out with Billy/playing Magic Square.
I'm not saying you want an iPad or need one (or any of the upcoming tablets) — I don't get commission. I'm just saying, what's the big deal? It's a computer and television and radio and newspaper and book and magazine and game console and Internet the size of a piece of paper and the width of a Mitch Albom book. It's freaking amazing, that's the big deal.
28-30. Jerked off to old George Brett highlights.
We don't all glaze our Whole Foods weeklies like you, fucktard.
The new iPhone (http://www.apple.com/iphone/) looks great (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/iphone-4-announced/).
I wonder how the iAds is going to work.
Quote from: BH on June 07, 2010, 02:05:22 PM
I wonder how the iAds is going to work.
Did you catch the demo from a couple months back, or do you mean whether it'll work out and be successful?
Quote from: Night Man on June 07, 2010, 02:02:28 PM
The new iPhone (http://www.apple.com/iphone/) looks great (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/iphone-4-announced/).
Better than this? (http://gizmodo.com/5554198/htc-evo-4g-review-a-war-machine)
Quote from: R-V on June 07, 2010, 02:25:40 PM
Quote from: Night Man on June 07, 2010, 02:02:28 PM
The new iPhone (http://www.apple.com/iphone/) looks great (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/iphone-4-announced/).
Better than this? (http://gizmodo.com/5554198/htc-evo-4g-review-a-war-machine)
QuoteYou will either love how ridiculously palm-spanning a phone that is well over four inches diagonally feels—or you will find it awkward and kind of silly.
This is exactly how we're split on it. Jason really adores the size, yet he is a power nerd. I think it feels like a weirdly retrograde idea of the future, what some people expected smartphones would evolve into before the iPad entered into our collective consciousness—a mutant phone/tablet thing that's just big enough to do everything. It's just a really big phone that will polarize the buying public.
I mean, when there's a kickstand, a statement is being made.
It's heavy, too, almost in the way you'd expect an armored suit to be. The way it's sculpted—aggressively functional, like War Machine, with little Tony Stark flash—emphasizes unseasoned power. You might expect the back of the phone to be cut from metal, but it's fit with a rubber-esque finish. (We are still talking about HTC here.)
The build quality is nonetheless respectable, down to the kickstand—it'll survive a tumble or three. (There is light leaking through the seam where the top of phone meets the frame, netting a few demerits.)
Given that the camera lens protrudes from the back of the phone, don't expect it to hold up as well. It will be scratched and scuffed within a week.
QuoteMy main phone at the moment is a Nexus One, so I'm pretty familiar with managing Android to make it through the day. It's oddly a struggle to make the Evo last that long—on a weekend, I had to recharge by 2pm—and I had 4G turned off. Expect to plug this thing in at work before you go out at night if you want a phone that isn't dead by your second drink.
QuoteBecause the power efficiency of the A4 (in the iPhone (http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/06/iphone-4-unveiled-gets-hd-video-led-flash-dual-cameras.ars)) is combined with a larger battery, Apple claims 40 percent more talk time on 3G—from 5 to 7 hours for the iPhone 4. It gets about 6 hours of 3G browsing or 10 hours of WiFi browsing. Media mavens will get up to 40 hours of music or 10 hours of video playback. The battery is good for 300 hours of standby time.
QuoteThe bigger issue to consider, though, as it is with every Android phone running a custom interface, is how badly you want to be on the bleeding edge of the Android platform. You will wait several months for Android 2.2 to reach the Evo, which offers a ton of tangible benefits, not the least of which is seriously improved speed (you'll notice mostly within apps). And you'll wait again for Android 2.3, and so on. For most people, this won't be a problem—but it's something to be aware of, particularly since you won't have the option of the official Google phone, the Nexus One, on Sprint.
Yes.
Quote from: Night Man on June 07, 2010, 02:11:28 PM
Quote from: BH on June 07, 2010, 02:05:22 PM
I wonder how the iAds is going to work.
Did you catch the demo from a couple months back, or do you mean whether it'll work out and be successful?
I wonder how painful it's going to be on the phone. I think i'm getting rid of my iphone, can't really justify spending that much a month when i use like 10% of it's functionality anymore.
Quote from: BH on June 07, 2010, 02:30:51 PM
Quote from: Night Man on June 07, 2010, 02:11:28 PM
Quote from: BH on June 07, 2010, 02:05:22 PM
I wonder how the iAds is going to work.
Did you catch the demo from a couple months back, or do you mean whether it'll work out and be successful?
I wonder how painful it's going to be on the phone. I think i'm getting rid of my iphone, can't really justify spending that much a month when i use like 10% of it's functionality anymore.
I don't think it can auto-launch. If you click the ad, you see it, otherwise it should leave you alone. Do AT&T's slightly cheaper plans (http://daringfireball.net/2010/06/good_and_bad_regarding_att_data_plans) help at all?
Quote from: BH on June 07, 2010, 02:05:22 PM
I wonder how the iAds is going to work.
Ha...I thought that said Aids.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 07, 2010, 02:39:31 PM
Quote from: BH on June 07, 2010, 02:05:22 PM
I wonder how the iAds is going to work.
Ha...I thought that said Aids.
Me too. But I'm not bragging about it.
Quote from: Night Man on June 07, 2010, 02:30:37 PMExpect to plug this thing in at work before you go out at night if you want a phone that isn't dead by your second drink.
Does that guy go to bars to play with his phone or to drink with friends?
This is what I see in Sprint's favor (I don't know much, so I may be wrong):
- Cheaper phone ($140 for EVO on Wirefly via Bing vs. $200 for iPhone)
- Cheaper service ($80/month for EVO plan vs. $90/month for iPhone plan)
- Better service. Not as sure about this one, but Sprint in Chicago is much better than AT&T as far as dropped calls/reception, right? And 4Gs is more Gs than 3Gs.
Yeah the battery probably isn't great but I won't be using the phone all day or anything.
Quote from: R-V on June 07, 2010, 02:45:21 PM
Quote from: Night Man on June 07, 2010, 02:30:37 PMExpect to plug this thing in at work before you go out at night if you want a phone that isn't dead by your second drink.
Does that guy go to bars to play with his phone or to drink with friends?
This is what I see in Sprint's favor (I don't know much, so I may be wrong):
- Cheaper phone ($140 for EVO on Wirefly via Bing vs. $200 for iPhone)
- Cheaper service ($80/month for EVO plan vs. $90/month for iPhone plan)
- Better service. Not as sure about this one, but Sprint in Chicago is much better than AT&T as far as dropped calls/reception, right? And 4Gs is more Gs than 3Gs.
Yeah the battery probably isn't great but I won't be using the phone all day or anything.
I'd be interested in this. Where I live, near chicago and damen, my iphone reception sucks ass if I'm indoors.
Sprint used to be the worst, but that was my experience long ago.
I'm considering a switch to sprint, my work discount is 27% so huey's brother and i could get a cheap family plan.
Quote from: Night Man on June 07, 2010, 02:02:28 PM
The new iPhone (http://www.apple.com/iphone/) looks great (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/iphone-4-announced/).
Second article says $200.00 for 16gb model. Gil thinks that's with the AT&T Subsidy.. I'm hoping not. So my question: Can I preorder that one with no upgrade discount for $200?
Quote from: Yeti on June 07, 2010, 03:13:58 PM
Quote from: Night Man on June 07, 2010, 02:02:28 PM
The new iPhone (http://www.apple.com/iphone/) looks great (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/iphone-4-announced/).
Second article says $200.00 for 16gb model. Gil thinks that's with the AT&T Subsidy.. I'm hoping not. So my question: Can I preorder that one with no upgrade discount for $200?
$199 is the subsidized price with a two-year contract. (Without a contract it's probably somewhere in the neighborhood of $500.) As long as your upgrade date is in 2010, AT&T will let you have it. (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/atandt-upgrade-to-iphone-4-up-to-six-months-early/)
Quote from: Night Man on June 07, 2010, 03:26:14 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 07, 2010, 03:13:58 PM
Quote from: Night Man on June 07, 2010, 02:02:28 PM
The new iPhone (http://www.apple.com/iphone/) looks great (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/iphone-4-announced/).
Second article says $200.00 for 16gb model. Gil thinks that's with the AT&T Subsidy.. I'm hoping not. So my question: Can I preorder that one with no upgrade discount for $200?
$199 is the subsidized price with a two-year contract. (Without a contract it's probably somewhere in the neighborhood of $500.) As long as your upgrade date is in 2010, AT&T will let you have it. (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/atandt-upgrade-to-iphone-4-up-to-six-months-early/)
Yea, I got my Blackberry Bold 9700 in November. I think AT&T waits 20 months for upgrades, so I'm a year away from that.. Shit. For $400, I'll consider it.. $500's pushing my nuts a little, but women do sleep with a man with an iPhone more frequently..
Quote from: Yeti on June 07, 2010, 03:31:19 PM
Quote from: Night Man on June 07, 2010, 03:26:14 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 07, 2010, 03:13:58 PM
Quote from: Night Man on June 07, 2010, 02:02:28 PM
The new iPhone (http://www.apple.com/iphone/) looks great (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/iphone-4-announced/).
Second article says $200.00 for 16gb model. Gil thinks that's with the AT&T Subsidy.. I'm hoping not. So my question: Can I preorder that one with no upgrade discount for $200?
$199 is the subsidized price with a two-year contract. (Without a contract it's probably somewhere in the neighborhood of $500.) As long as your upgrade date is in 2010, AT&T will let you have it. (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/atandt-upgrade-to-iphone-4-up-to-six-months-early/)
Yea, I got my Blackberry Bold 9700 in November. I think AT&T waits 20 months for upgrades, so I'm a year away from that.. Shit. For $400, I'll consider it.. $500's pushing my nuts a little, but women do sleep with a man with an iPhone more frequently..
Does Tankputer have an iPhone?
Quote from: Yeti on June 07, 2010, 03:31:19 PM
Quote from: Night Man on June 07, 2010, 03:26:14 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 07, 2010, 03:13:58 PM
Quote from: Night Man on June 07, 2010, 02:02:28 PM
The new iPhone (http://www.apple.com/iphone/) looks great (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/iphone-4-announced/).
Second article says $200.00 for 16gb model. Gil thinks that's with the AT&T Subsidy.. I'm hoping not. So my question: Can I preorder that one with no upgrade discount for $200?
$199 is the subsidized price with a two-year contract. (Without a contract it's probably somewhere in the neighborhood of $500.) As long as your upgrade date is in 2010, AT&T will let you have it. (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/atandt-upgrade-to-iphone-4-up-to-six-months-early/)
Yea, I got my Blackberry Bold 9700 in November. I think AT&T waits 20 months for upgrades, so I'm a year away from that.. Shit. For $400, I'll consider it.. $500's pushing my nuts a little, but women do sleep with a man with an iPhone more frequently..
This is from an MSNBC story (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36002662).
Quote$400 more without contract
According to the memo, both the iPhone 3G, released in 2008, and the iPhone 3GS, released last summer, will sell for full price: $499 for the 8-gigabyte 3G model, $599 for the 16 GB 3GS and $699 for the 32 GB iPhone 3GS. Those prices are $400 more than if the devices are purchased through AT&T with a contract and a subsidy.
Quote from: Night Man on June 07, 2010, 03:47:29 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 07, 2010, 03:31:19 PM
Quote from: Night Man on June 07, 2010, 03:26:14 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 07, 2010, 03:13:58 PM
Quote from: Night Man on June 07, 2010, 02:02:28 PM
The new iPhone (http://www.apple.com/iphone/) looks great (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/iphone-4-announced/).
Second article says $200.00 for 16gb model. Gil thinks that's with the AT&T Subsidy.. I'm hoping not. So my question: Can I preorder that one with no upgrade discount for $200?
$199 is the subsidized price with a two-year contract. (Without a contract it's probably somewhere in the neighborhood of $500.) As long as your upgrade date is in 2010, AT&T will let you have it. (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/atandt-upgrade-to-iphone-4-up-to-six-months-early/)
Yea, I got my Blackberry Bold 9700 in November. I think AT&T waits 20 months for upgrades, so I'm a year away from that.. Shit. For $400, I'll consider it.. $500's pushing my nuts a little, but women do sleep with a man with an iPhone more frequently..
This is from an MSNBC story (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36002662).
Quote$400 more without contract
According to the memo, both the iPhone 3G, released in 2008, and the iPhone 3GS, released last summer, will sell for full price: $499 for the 8-gigabyte 3G model, $599 for the 16 GB 3GS and $699 for the 32 GB iPhone 3GS. Those prices are $400 more than if the devices are purchased through AT&T with a contract and a subsidy.
I hate my phone decisions right now.
So who is more dependable between Sprint and AT&T for making calls/sending texts in Chicago? The Googles machine doesn't really help me with this one.
Quote from: R-V on June 07, 2010, 04:03:38 PM
So who is more dependable between Sprint and AT&T for making calls/sending texts in Chicago? The Googles machine doesn't really help me with this one.
Everyone seems to hate Sprint, but that's the service on my FLIP PHONE and I've never had any problems.
Quote from: CT III on June 07, 2010, 04:15:46 PM
Quote from: R-V on June 07, 2010, 04:03:38 PM
So who is more dependable between Sprint and AT&T for making calls/sending texts in Chicago? The Googles machine doesn't really help me with this one.
Everyone seems to hate Sprint, but that's the service on my FLIP PHONE and I've never had any problems.
I've had Sprint for like 6 years and haven't had a problem. Even when other people don't have a signal, I'm sexting away.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 07, 2010, 05:42:37 PM
Quote from: CT III on June 07, 2010, 04:15:46 PM
Quote from: R-V on June 07, 2010, 04:03:38 PM
So who is more dependable between Sprint and AT&T for making calls/sending texts in Chicago? The Googles machine doesn't really help me with this one.
Everyone seems to hate Sprint, but that's the service on my FLIP PHONE and I've never had any problems.
I've had Sprint for like 6 years and haven't had a problem. Even when other people don't have a signal, I'm sexting away.
Then again, you bought a 300 dollar phone that has like 4 hours of battery life without doing the research first, so your opinion is....???
Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 07, 2010, 05:53:25 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 07, 2010, 05:42:37 PM
Quote from: CT III on June 07, 2010, 04:15:46 PM
Quote from: R-V on June 07, 2010, 04:03:38 PM
So who is more dependable between Sprint and AT&T for making calls/sending texts in Chicago? The Googles machine doesn't really help me with this one.
Everyone seems to hate Sprint, but that's the service on my FLIP PHONE and I've never had any problems.
I've had Sprint for like 6 years and haven't had a problem. Even when other people don't have a signal, I'm sexting away.
Then again, you bought a 300 dollar phone that has like 4 hours of battery life without doing the research first, so your opinion is....???
While I admire your stick-poke, what he gave there is not technically an opinion.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 07, 2010, 05:53:25 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 07, 2010, 05:42:37 PM
Quote from: CT III on June 07, 2010, 04:15:46 PM
Quote from: R-V on June 07, 2010, 04:03:38 PM
So who is more dependable between Sprint and AT&T for making calls/sending texts in Chicago? The Googles machine doesn't really help me with this one.
Everyone seems to hate Sprint, but that's the service on my FLIP PHONE and I've never had any problems.
I've had Sprint for like 6 years and haven't had a problem. Even when other people don't have a signal, I'm sexting away.
Then again, you bought a 300 dollar phone that has like 4 hours of battery life without doing the research first, so your opinion is....???
chad is downloading porn at 4G speeds?
Not making a 64G (or larger) iPhone is stupid.
Quote from: CT III on June 07, 2010, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 07, 2010, 05:53:25 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 07, 2010, 05:42:37 PM
Quote from: CT III on June 07, 2010, 04:15:46 PM
Quote from: R-V on June 07, 2010, 04:03:38 PM
So who is more dependable between Sprint and AT&T for making calls/sending texts in Chicago? The Googles machine doesn't really help me with this one.
Everyone seems to hate Sprint, but that's the service on my FLIP PHONE and I've never had any problems.
I've had Sprint for like 6 years and haven't had a problem. Even when other people don't have a signal, I'm sexting away.
Then again, you bought a 300 dollar phone that has like 4 hours of battery life without doing the research first, so your opinion is....???
While I admire your stick-poke, what he gave there is not technically an opinion.
I was looking for "...is as valid as the next man's!!" but this'll suffice.
Quote from: Night Man on June 07, 2010, 03:47:29 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 07, 2010, 03:31:19 PM
Quote from: Night Man on June 07, 2010, 03:26:14 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 07, 2010, 03:13:58 PM
Quote from: Night Man on June 07, 2010, 02:02:28 PM
The new iPhone (http://www.apple.com/iphone/) looks great (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/iphone-4-announced/).
Second article says $200.00 for 16gb model. Gil thinks that's with the AT&T Subsidy.. I'm hoping not. So my question: Can I preorder that one with no upgrade discount for $200?
$199 is the subsidized price with a two-year contract. (Without a contract it's probably somewhere in the neighborhood of $500.) As long as your upgrade date is in 2010, AT&T will let you have it. (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/atandt-upgrade-to-iphone-4-up-to-six-months-early/)
Yea, I got my Blackberry Bold 9700 in November. I think AT&T waits 20 months for upgrades, so I'm a year away from that.. Shit. For $400, I'll consider it.. $500's pushing my nuts a little, but women do sleep with a man with an iPhone more frequently..
This is from an MSNBC story (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36002662).
Quote$400 more without contract
According to the memo, both the iPhone 3G, released in 2008, and the iPhone 3GS, released last summer, will sell for full price: $499 for the 8-gigabyte 3G model, $599 for the 16 GB 3GS and $699 for the 32 GB iPhone 3GS. Those prices are $400 more than if the devices are purchased through AT&T with a contract and a subsidy.
Well, I may be in "luck" (http://www.tuaw.com/2010/06/07/atandt-announces-no-commitment-early-update-pricing-for-iphone-4/)
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tuaw.com/media/2010/06/iphone4pricinginfographic2.jpg)
I could qualify for the second, so $400?.... Time to start working some extra hours so I don't feel so bad about it.
So is anyone getting the Evo? Seems like a much cheaper option than the iphone.
Would be interested in a review if so.
Quote from: BH on June 09, 2010, 09:17:03 AM
So is anyone getting the Evo? Seems like a much cheaper option than the iphone.
Would be interested in a review if so.
I have it right in front of me now. Going to activate it. stay tuned. . . .
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: BH on June 09, 2010, 09:17:03 AM
So is anyone getting the Evo? Seems like a much cheaper option than the iphone.
Would be interested in a review if so.
I have it right in front of me now. Going to activate it. stay tuned. . . .
Though, to be fair, TDubbs just asked the shoutbox what 4G is and why he has to pay $10 a month for it.
So... grain of salt.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 09, 2010, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: BH on June 09, 2010, 09:17:03 AM
So is anyone getting the Evo? Seems like a much cheaper option than the iphone.
Would be interested in a review if so.
I have it right in front of me now. Going to activate it. stay tuned. . . .
Though, to be fair, TDubbs just asked the shoutbox what 4G is and why he has to pay $10 a month for it.
So... grain of salt.
It's awesome. Get it.
Apple just released the new iFuckedup (http://gawker.com/5559346/).
Quote from: powen01 on June 09, 2010, 04:10:09 PM
Apple just released the new iFuckedup (http://gawker.com/5559346/).
Gawker must have had a raging hardon for this story after the whole, we-got-caught-buying-stolen-property thing. Apple contends it's unclear whether the phone was actually lost, or stolen, so their wording is interesting:
QuoteThe breach, which comes just weeks after an Apple employee lost an iPhone prototype in a bar, exposed the most exclusive email list on the planet, a collection of early-adopter iPad 3G subscribers that includes thousands of A-listers in finance, politics and media, from New York Times Co. CEO Janet Robinson to Diane Sawyer of ABC News to film mogul Harvey Weinstein to Mayor Michael Bloomberg. It even appears that White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel's information was compromised.
It doesn't stop there. According to the data we were given by the web security group that exploited vulnerabilities on the AT&T network, we believe 114,000 user accounts have been compromised, although it's possible that confidential information about every iPad 3G owner in the U.S. has been exposed. We contacted Apple for comment but have yet to hear back. We also reached out to AT&T for comment. A call to Rahm Emanuel's office at the White House has not be returned.
That whole bit sounds fishy too.
Quote from: Night Man on June 09, 2010, 04:14:15 PM
Quote from: powen01 on June 09, 2010, 04:10:09 PM
Apple just released the new iFuckedup (http://gawker.com/5559346/).
Gawker must have had a raging hardon for this story after the whole, we-got-caught-buying-stolen-property thing. Apple contends it's unclear whether the phone was actually lost, or stolen, so their wording is interesting:
QuoteThe breach, which comes just weeks after an Apple employee lost an iPhone prototype in a bar, exposed the most exclusive email list on the planet, a collection of early-adopter iPad 3G subscribers that includes thousands of A-listers in finance, politics and media, from New York Times Co. CEO Janet Robinson to Diane Sawyer of ABC News to film mogul Harvey Weinstein to Mayor Michael Bloomberg. It even appears that White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel's information was compromised.
It doesn't stop there. According to the data we were given by the web security group that exploited vulnerabilities on the AT&T network, we believe 114,000 user accounts have been compromised, although it's possible that confidential information about every iPad 3G owner in the U.S. has been exposed. We contacted Apple for comment but have yet to hear back. We also reached out to AT&T for comment. A call to Rahm Emanuel's office at the White House has not be returned.
That whole bit sounds fishy too.
Yeah...
Headline:
QuoteApple's Worst Security Breach: 114,000 iPad Owners Exposed
Lede:
QuoteApple has suffered another embarrassment. A security breach has exposed iPad owners including dozens of CEOs, military officials, and top politicians. They—and every other buyer of the wireless-enabled tablet—could be vulnerable to spam marketing and malicious hacking.
From paragraph five:
QuoteThe slip up appears to be AT&T's fault at the moment, and it will complicate the company's already fraught relationship with Apple.
Nick Denton must be yellow with pride.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 09, 2010, 04:21:42 PM
Quote from: Night Man on June 09, 2010, 04:14:15 PM
Quote from: powen01 on June 09, 2010, 04:10:09 PM
Apple just released the new iFuckedup (http://gawker.com/5559346/).
Gawker must have had a raging hardon for this story after the whole, we-got-caught-buying-stolen-property thing. Apple contends it's unclear whether the phone was actually lost, or stolen, so their wording is interesting:
QuoteThe breach, which comes just weeks after an Apple employee lost an iPhone prototype in a bar, exposed the most exclusive email list on the planet, a collection of early-adopter iPad 3G subscribers that includes thousands of A-listers in finance, politics and media, from New York Times Co. CEO Janet Robinson to Diane Sawyer of ABC News to film mogul Harvey Weinstein to Mayor Michael Bloomberg. It even appears that White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel's information was compromised.
It doesn't stop there. According to the data we were given by the web security group that exploited vulnerabilities on the AT&T network, we believe 114,000 user accounts have been compromised, although it's possible that confidential information about every iPad 3G owner in the U.S. has been exposed. We contacted Apple for comment but have yet to hear back. We also reached out to AT&T for comment. A call to Rahm Emanuel's office at the White House has not be returned.
That whole bit sounds fishy too.
Yeah...
Headline:
QuoteApple's Worst Security Breach: 114,000 iPad Owners Exposed
Lede:
QuoteApple has suffered another embarrassment. A security breach has exposed iPad owners including dozens of CEOs, military officials, and top politicians. They—and every other buyer of the wireless-enabled tablet—could be vulnerable to spam marketing and malicious hacking.
From paragraph five:
QuoteThe slip up appears to be AT&T's fault at the moment, and it will complicate the company's already fraught relationship with Apple.
Nick Denton must be yellow with pride.
It's amusing to see them report "another embarrassment" when their very company was largely at fault for the one they're citing.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 02:48:50 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 09, 2010, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: BH on June 09, 2010, 09:17:03 AM
So is anyone getting the Evo? Seems like a much cheaper option than the iphone.
Would be interested in a review if so.
I have it right in front of me now. Going to activate it. stay tuned. . . .
Though, to be fair, TDubbs just asked the shoutbox what 4G is and why he has to pay $10 a month for it.
So... grain of salt.
It's awesome. Get it.
A friend of mine got it and it's awesome, but fucking huge. How the hell can you keep that in your pocket?
Quote from: Poon on June 09, 2010, 11:38:21 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 02:48:50 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 09, 2010, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: BH on June 09, 2010, 09:17:03 AM
So is anyone getting the Evo? Seems like a much cheaper option than the iphone.
Would be interested in a review if so.
I have it right in front of me now. Going to activate it. stay tuned. . . .
Though, to be fair, TDubbs just asked the shoutbox what 4G is and why he has to pay $10 a month for it.
So... grain of salt.
It's awesome. Get it.
A friend of mine got it and it's awesome, but fucking huge. How the hell can you keep that in your pocket?
What are we talking about here?
Quote from: Slaky on June 09, 2010, 11:49:09 PM
Quote from: Poon on June 09, 2010, 11:38:21 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 02:48:50 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 09, 2010, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: BH on June 09, 2010, 09:17:03 AM
So is anyone getting the Evo? Seems like a much cheaper option than the iphone.
Would be interested in a review if so.
I have it right in front of me now. Going to activate it. stay tuned. . . .
Though, to be fair, TDubbs just asked the shoutbox what 4G is and why he has to pay $10 a month for it.
So... grain of salt.
It's awesome. Get it.
A friend of mine got it and it's awesome, but fucking huge. How the hell can you keep that in your pocket?
What are we talking about here?
Bold'd
Quote from: Slaky on June 09, 2010, 11:49:09 PM
Quote from: Poon on June 09, 2010, 11:38:21 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 02:48:50 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 09, 2010, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: BH on June 09, 2010, 09:17:03 AM
So is anyone getting the Evo? Seems like a much cheaper option than the iphone.
Would be interested in a review if so.
I have it right in front of me now. Going to activate it. stay tuned. . . .
Though, to be fair, TDubbs just asked the shoutbox what 4G is and why he has to pay $10 a month for it.
So... grain of salt.
It's awesome. Get it.
A friend of mine got it and it's awesome, but fucking huge. How the hell can you keep that in your pocket?
What are we talking about here?
Misgivings about New Jersey, I think.
Quote from: Wheezer on June 10, 2010, 12:36:05 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 09, 2010, 11:49:09 PM
Quote from: Poon on June 09, 2010, 11:38:21 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 02:48:50 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 09, 2010, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: BH on June 09, 2010, 09:17:03 AM
So is anyone getting the Evo? Seems like a much cheaper option than the iphone.
Would be interested in a review if so.
I have it right in front of me now. Going to activate it. stay tuned. . . .
Though, to be fair, TDubbs just asked the shoutbox what 4G is and why he has to pay $10 a month for it.
So... grain of salt.
It's awesome. Get it.
A friend of mine got it and it's awesome, but fucking huge. How the hell can you keep that in your pocket?
What are we talking about here?
Misgivings about New Jersey, I think.
Cross Thread'd?
Quote from: Night Man on June 09, 2010, 04:42:56 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 09, 2010, 04:21:42 PM
Quote from: Night Man on June 09, 2010, 04:14:15 PM
Quote from: powen01 on June 09, 2010, 04:10:09 PM
Apple just released the new iFuckedup (http://gawker.com/5559346/).
Gawker must have had a raging hardon for this story after the whole, we-got-caught-buying-stolen-property thing. Apple contends it's unclear whether the phone was actually lost, or stolen, so their wording is interesting:
QuoteThe breach, which comes just weeks after an Apple employee lost an iPhone prototype in a bar, exposed the most exclusive email list on the planet, a collection of early-adopter iPad 3G subscribers that includes thousands of A-listers in finance, politics and media, from New York Times Co. CEO Janet Robinson to Diane Sawyer of ABC News to film mogul Harvey Weinstein to Mayor Michael Bloomberg. It even appears that White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel's information was compromised.
It doesn't stop there. According to the data we were given by the web security group that exploited vulnerabilities on the AT&T network, we believe 114,000 user accounts have been compromised, although it's possible that confidential information about every iPad 3G owner in the U.S. has been exposed. We contacted Apple for comment but have yet to hear back. We also reached out to AT&T for comment. A call to Rahm Emanuel's office at the White House has not be returned.
That whole bit sounds fishy too.
Yeah...
Headline:
QuoteApple's Worst Security Breach: 114,000 iPad Owners Exposed
Lede:
QuoteApple has suffered another embarrassment. A security breach has exposed iPad owners including dozens of CEOs, military officials, and top politicians. They—and every other buyer of the wireless-enabled tablet—could be vulnerable to spam marketing and malicious hacking.
From paragraph five:
QuoteThe slip up appears to be AT&T's fault at the moment, and it will complicate the company's already fraught relationship with Apple.
Nick Denton must be yellow with pride.
It's amusing to see them report "another embarrassment" when their very company was largely at fault for the one they're citing.
AT&T's statement... (http://9to5mac.com/node/17670)
Quote"AT&T was informed by a business customer on Monday of the potential exposure of their iPad ICC IDS. The only information that can be derived from the ICC IDS is the e-mail address attached to that device.
This issue was escalated to the highest levels of the company and was corrected by Tuesday; and we have essentially turned off the feature that provided the e-mail addresses.
The person or group who discovered this gap did not contact AT&T.
We are continuing to investigate and will inform all customers whose e-mail addresses and ICC IDS may have been obtained.
We take customer privacy very seriously and while we have fixed this problem, we apologize to our customers who were impacted."
How it happened: (http://9to5mac.com/node/17672)
QuoteIt turns out that AT&T wanted to make logging into your 3G data plan dashboard a little easier on the iPad so they populated the email address based on the ICC-ID.
Hackers effectively used a brute force technique to get the system to spit out email addresses. As of now, the email populating system is turned off.
So in other words, despite Gawker's sensationalism, this has just about nothing to do with Apple whatsoever. Trumpeting this as a major embarrassment for Apple when you're the one trying to make it that is despicable.
Quote from: Poon on June 09, 2010, 11:38:21 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 02:48:50 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 09, 2010, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: BH on June 09, 2010, 09:17:03 AM
So is anyone getting the Evo? Seems like a much cheaper option than the iphone.
Would be interested in a review if so.
I have it right in front of me now. Going to activate it. stay tuned. . . .
Though, to be fair, TDubbs just asked the shoutbox what 4G is and why he has to pay $10 a month for it.
So... grain of salt.
It's awesome. Get it.
A friend of mine got it and it's awesome, but fucking huge. How the hell can you keep that in your pocket?
I can't imagine it's much bigger than an iPhone. And it's skinny enough that it doesn't feel bulky when in my pocket, and I don't ever wear pleats.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 10, 2010, 05:20:44 AM
Quote from: Poon on June 09, 2010, 11:38:21 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 02:48:50 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 09, 2010, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: BH on June 09, 2010, 09:17:03 AM
So is anyone getting the Evo? Seems like a much cheaper option than the iphone.
Would be interested in a review if so.
I have it right in front of me now. Going to activate it. stay tuned. . . .
Though, to be fair, TDubbs just asked the shoutbox what 4G is and why he has to pay $10 a month for it.
So... grain of salt.
It's awesome. Get it.
A friend of mine got it and it's awesome, but fucking huge. How the hell can you keep that in your pocket?
I can't imagine it's much bigger than an iPhone. And it's skinny enough that it doesn't feel bulky when in my pocket, and I don't ever wear pleats.
How often you have to charge this bad boy? How is the 4G network so far, in terms of call quality (especially indoors) and dropped calls?
Quote from: BH on June 10, 2010, 12:15:30 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 10, 2010, 05:20:44 AM
Quote from: Poon on June 09, 2010, 11:38:21 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 02:48:50 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 09, 2010, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: BH on June 09, 2010, 09:17:03 AM
So is anyone getting the Evo? Seems like a much cheaper option than the iphone.
Would be interested in a review if so.
I have it right in front of me now. Going to activate it. stay tuned. . . .
Though, to be fair, TDubbs just asked the shoutbox what 4G is and why he has to pay $10 a month for it.
So... grain of salt.
It's awesome. Get it.
A friend of mine got it and it's awesome, but fucking huge. How the hell can you keep that in your pocket?
I can't imagine it's much bigger than an iPhone. And it's skinny enough that it doesn't feel bulky when in my pocket, and I don't ever wear pleats.
How often you have to charge this bad boy? How is the 4G network so far, in terms of call quality (especially indoors) and dropped calls?
bump.
Quote from: BH on June 14, 2010, 02:51:33 PM
Quote from: BH on June 10, 2010, 12:15:30 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 10, 2010, 05:20:44 AM
Quote from: Poon on June 09, 2010, 11:38:21 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 02:48:50 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 09, 2010, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: BH on June 09, 2010, 09:17:03 AM
So is anyone getting the Evo? Seems like a much cheaper option than the iphone.
Would be interested in a review if so.
I have it right in front of me now. Going to activate it. stay tuned. . . .
Though, to be fair, TDubbs just asked the shoutbox what 4G is and why he has to pay $10 a month for it.
So... grain of salt.
It's awesome. Get it.
A friend of mine got it and it's awesome, but fucking huge. How the hell can you keep that in your pocket?
I can't imagine it's much bigger than an iPhone. And it's skinny enough that it doesn't feel bulky when in my pocket, and I don't ever wear pleats.
How often you have to charge this bad boy? How is the 4G network so far, in terms of call quality (especially indoors) and dropped calls?
bump.
I had it fully charged when I left this morning for work at 6am. It's currently 3pm and I have more than half a battery left. I was on the internet with it earlier, sent a bunch of texts, etc. The big thing is if you have the app killer, just run that whenever you can. As for the 4G, I didn't have a smart phone before, so I don't know. Dropped calls = never have had any with Sprint unless I'm driving home from work and pass by O'Hare. I haven't dropped one yet on the Evo.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 14, 2010, 03:02:16 PM
Quote from: BH on June 14, 2010, 02:51:33 PM
Quote from: BH on June 10, 2010, 12:15:30 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 10, 2010, 05:20:44 AM
Quote from: Poon on June 09, 2010, 11:38:21 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 02:48:50 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 09, 2010, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: BH on June 09, 2010, 09:17:03 AM
So is anyone getting the Evo? Seems like a much cheaper option than the iphone.
Would be interested in a review if so.
I have it right in front of me now. Going to activate it. stay tuned. . . .
Though, to be fair, TDubbs just asked the shoutbox what 4G is and why he has to pay $10 a month for it.
So... grain of salt.
It's awesome. Get it.
A friend of mine got it and it's awesome, but fucking huge. How the hell can you keep that in your pocket?
I can't imagine it's much bigger than an iPhone. And it's skinny enough that it doesn't feel bulky when in my pocket, and I don't ever wear pleats.
How often you have to charge this bad boy? How is the 4G network so far, in terms of call quality (especially indoors) and dropped calls?
bump.
I had it fully charged when I left this morning for work at 6am. It's currently 3pm and I have more than half a battery left. I was on the internet with it earlier, sent a bunch of texts, etc. The big thing is if you have the app killer, just run that whenever you can. As for the 4G, I didn't have a smart phone before, so I don't know. Dropped calls = never have had any with Sprint unless I'm driving home from work and pass by O'Hare on the shoulders of 290. I haven't dropped one yet on the Evo.
You drive like an asshole'ed.
Quote from: BH on June 14, 2010, 02:51:33 PM
Quote from: BH on June 10, 2010, 12:15:30 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 10, 2010, 05:20:44 AM
Quote from: Poon on June 09, 2010, 11:38:21 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 02:48:50 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 09, 2010, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: BH on June 09, 2010, 09:17:03 AM
So is anyone getting the Evo? Seems like a much cheaper option than the iphone.
Would be interested in a review if so.
I have it right in front of me now. Going to activate it. stay tuned. . . .
Though, to be fair, TDubbs just asked the shoutbox what 4G is and why he has to pay $10 a month for it.
So... grain of salt.
It's awesome. Get it.
A friend of mine got it and it's awesome, but fucking huge. How the hell can you keep that in your pocket?
I can't imagine it's much bigger than an iPhone. And it's skinny enough that it doesn't feel bulky when in my pocket, and I don't ever wear pleats.
How often you have to charge this bad boy? How is the 4G network so far, in terms of call quality (especially indoors) and dropped calls?
bump.
I got the Hero for $140 less than the Evo (shit, now it's $170 less (http://www.wirefly.com/eCommerce/SpecialOffer.aspx?cid=21427_036d3b45507b428e8a97a426909b7595&showcustblock=true) - don't forget to go through Bing to get $50 cashback as well). Plan is also $10/month less than the Evo - $70/month for unlimited everything. I also have never had a smartphone so I don't have much of a reference point, but it's a great phone. Internet is fast, operating system is easy to use, my husky fingers are already used to the virtual keyboard after a couple days, and you can watch Friday Night Lights and NFL stuff in surprisingly good quality. I had a problem with the battery draining too fast but after some internet problem solving it's good to go.
Quote from: R-V on June 14, 2010, 03:16:57 PM
Quote from: BH on June 14, 2010, 02:51:33 PM
Quote from: BH on June 10, 2010, 12:15:30 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 10, 2010, 05:20:44 AM
Quote from: Poon on June 09, 2010, 11:38:21 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 02:48:50 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 09, 2010, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: BH on June 09, 2010, 09:17:03 AM
So is anyone getting the Evo? Seems like a much cheaper option than the iphone.
Would be interested in a review if so.
I have it right in front of me now. Going to activate it. stay tuned. . . .
Though, to be fair, TDubbs just asked the shoutbox what 4G is and why he has to pay $10 a month for it.
So... grain of salt.
It's awesome. Get it.
A friend of mine got it and it's awesome, but fucking huge. How the hell can you keep that in your pocket?
I can't imagine it's much bigger than an iPhone. And it's skinny enough that it doesn't feel bulky when in my pocket, and I don't ever wear pleats.
How often you have to charge this bad boy? How is the 4G network so far, in terms of call quality (especially indoors) and dropped calls?
bump.
I got the Hero for $140 less than the Evo (shit, now it's $170 less (http://www.wirefly.com/eCommerce/SpecialOffer.aspx?cid=21427_036d3b45507b428e8a97a426909b7595&showcustblock=true) - don't forget to go through Bing to get $50 cashback as well). Plan is also $10/month less than the Evo - $70/month for unlimited everything. I also have never had a smartphone so I don't have much of a reference point, but it's a great phone. Internet is fast, operating system is easy to use, my husky fingers are already used to the virtual keyboard after a couple days, and you can watch Friday Night Lights and NFL stuff in surprisingly good quality. I had a problem with the battery draining too fast but after some internet problem solving it's good to go.
RV, you live near Wicker Park right? How's the sprint reception, especially indoors?
Quote from: BH on June 14, 2010, 03:29:15 PM
Quote from: R-V on June 14, 2010, 03:16:57 PM
Quote from: BH on June 14, 2010, 02:51:33 PM
Quote from: BH on June 10, 2010, 12:15:30 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 10, 2010, 05:20:44 AM
Quote from: Poon on June 09, 2010, 11:38:21 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 02:48:50 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 09, 2010, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: BH on June 09, 2010, 09:17:03 AM
So is anyone getting the Evo? Seems like a much cheaper option than the iphone.
Would be interested in a review if so.
I have it right in front of me now. Going to activate it. stay tuned. . . .
Though, to be fair, TDubbs just asked the shoutbox what 4G is and why he has to pay $10 a month for it.
So... grain of salt.
It's awesome. Get it.
A friend of mine got it and it's awesome, but fucking huge. How the hell can you keep that in your pocket?
I can't imagine it's much bigger than an iPhone. And it's skinny enough that it doesn't feel bulky when in my pocket, and I don't ever wear pleats.
How often you have to charge this bad boy? How is the 4G network so far, in terms of call quality (especially indoors) and dropped calls?
bump.
I got the Hero for $140 less than the Evo (shit, now it's $170 less (http://www.wirefly.com/eCommerce/SpecialOffer.aspx?cid=21427_036d3b45507b428e8a97a426909b7595&showcustblock=true) - don't forget to go through Bing to get $50 cashback as well). Plan is also $10/month less than the Evo - $70/month for unlimited everything. I also have never had a smartphone so I don't have much of a reference point, but it's a great phone. Internet is fast, operating system is easy to use, my husky fingers are already used to the virtual keyboard after a couple days, and you can watch Friday Night Lights and NFL stuff in surprisingly good quality. I had a problem with the battery draining too fast but after some internet problem solving it's good to go.
RV, you live near Wicker Park right? How's the sprint reception, especially indoors?
I live in North Center. No problems with reception in my CONDO or in the East Loop inside a skyscraping work barn. For what it's worth, everyone I've talked to in the area who has Sprint has no beef with the service.
Preordering an iphone is exactly like buying Cubs tickets the day they went onsale. Except there's no virtual waiting room and multiple windows doesn't help. The error screen immediately after getting through is intact, however.
Didn't have this issue at all last year ...
Quote from: smg on June 15, 2010, 10:28:34 AM
Preordering an iphone is exactly like buying Cubs tickets the day they went onsale. Except there's no virtual waiting room and multiple windows doesn't help. The error screen immediately after getting through is intact, however.
Didn't have this issue at all last year ...
hey there
Quote from: R-V on June 14, 2010, 03:16:57 PM
Quote from: BH on June 14, 2010, 02:51:33 PM
Quote from: BH on June 10, 2010, 12:15:30 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 10, 2010, 05:20:44 AM
Quote from: Poon on June 09, 2010, 11:38:21 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 02:48:50 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 09, 2010, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: BH on June 09, 2010, 09:17:03 AM
So is anyone getting the Evo? Seems like a much cheaper option than the iphone.
Would be interested in a review if so.
I have it right in front of me now. Going to activate it. stay tuned. . . .
Though, to be fair, TDubbs just asked the shoutbox what 4G is and why he has to pay $10 a month for it.
So... grain of salt.
It's awesome. Get it.
A friend of mine got it and it's awesome, but fucking huge. How the hell can you keep that in your pocket?
I can't imagine it's much bigger than an iPhone. And it's skinny enough that it doesn't feel bulky when in my pocket, and I don't ever wear pleats.
How often you have to charge this bad boy? How is the 4G network so far, in terms of call quality (especially indoors) and dropped calls?
bump.
I got the Hero for $140 less than the Evo (shit, now it's $170 less (http://www.wirefly.com/eCommerce/SpecialOffer.aspx?cid=21427_036d3b45507b428e8a97a426909b7595&showcustblock=true) - don't forget to go through Bing to get $50 cashback as well). Plan is also $10/month less than the Evo - $70/month for unlimited everything. I also have never had a smartphone so I don't have much of a reference point, but it's a great phone. Internet is fast, operating system is easy to use, my husky fingers are already used to the virtual keyboard after a couple days, and you can watch Friday Night Lights and NFL stuff in surprisingly good quality. I had a problem with the battery draining too fast but after some internet problem solving it's good to go.
I notice that the EVO takes forever to charge. My old phone could be dead and then fully charged in like an hour or so. This one has about a quarter of battery left and it takes an hour and a half or more to charge. I don't know if all smartphones are like this, though, but it's one negative that I have noticed.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 15, 2010, 11:10:16 AM
Quote from: R-V on June 14, 2010, 03:16:57 PM
Quote from: BH on June 14, 2010, 02:51:33 PM
Quote from: BH on June 10, 2010, 12:15:30 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 10, 2010, 05:20:44 AM
Quote from: Poon on June 09, 2010, 11:38:21 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 02:48:50 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 09, 2010, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: BH on June 09, 2010, 09:17:03 AM
So is anyone getting the Evo? Seems like a much cheaper option than the iphone.
Would be interested in a review if so.
I have it right in front of me now. Going to activate it. stay tuned. . . .
Though, to be fair, TDubbs just asked the shoutbox what 4G is and why he has to pay $10 a month for it.
So... grain of salt.
It's awesome. Get it.
A friend of mine got it and it's awesome, but fucking huge. How the hell can you keep that in your pocket?
I can't imagine it's much bigger than an iPhone. And it's skinny enough that it doesn't feel bulky when in my pocket, and I don't ever wear pleats.
How often you have to charge this bad boy? How is the 4G network so far, in terms of call quality (especially indoors) and dropped calls?
bump.
I got the Hero for $140 less than the Evo (shit, now it's $170 less (http://www.wirefly.com/eCommerce/SpecialOffer.aspx?cid=21427_036d3b45507b428e8a97a426909b7595&showcustblock=true) - don't forget to go through Bing to get $50 cashback as well). Plan is also $10/month less than the Evo - $70/month for unlimited everything. I also have never had a smartphone so I don't have much of a reference point, but it's a great phone. Internet is fast, operating system is easy to use, my husky fingers are already used to the virtual keyboard after a couple days, and you can watch Friday Night Lights and NFL stuff in surprisingly good quality. I had a problem with the battery draining too fast but after some internet problem solving it's good to go.
I notice that the EVO takes forever to charge. My old phone could be dead and then fully charged in like an hour or so. This one has about a quarter of battery left and it takes an hour and a half or more to charge. I don't know if all smartphones are like this, though, but it's one negative that I have noticed.
The Droid does this as well. The time from 90% charge to 100% charge seems like forever.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 15, 2010, 11:37:23 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 15, 2010, 11:10:16 AM
Quote from: R-V on June 14, 2010, 03:16:57 PM
Quote from: BH on June 14, 2010, 02:51:33 PM
Quote from: BH on June 10, 2010, 12:15:30 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 10, 2010, 05:20:44 AM
Quote from: Poon on June 09, 2010, 11:38:21 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 02:48:50 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 09, 2010, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 09, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: BH on June 09, 2010, 09:17:03 AM
So is anyone getting the Evo? Seems like a much cheaper option than the iphone.
Would be interested in a review if so.
I have it right in front of me now. Going to activate it. stay tuned. . . .
Though, to be fair, TDubbs just asked the shoutbox what 4G is and why he has to pay $10 a month for it.
So... grain of salt.
It's awesome. Get it.
A friend of mine got it and it's awesome, but fucking huge. How the hell can you keep that in your pocket?
I can't imagine it's much bigger than an iPhone. And it's skinny enough that it doesn't feel bulky when in my pocket, and I don't ever wear pleats.
How often you have to charge this bad boy? How is the 4G network so far, in terms of call quality (especially indoors) and dropped calls?
bump.
I got the Hero for $140 less than the Evo (shit, now it's $170 less (http://www.wirefly.com/eCommerce/SpecialOffer.aspx?cid=21427_036d3b45507b428e8a97a426909b7595&showcustblock=true) - don't forget to go through Bing to get $50 cashback as well). Plan is also $10/month less than the Evo - $70/month for unlimited everything. I also have never had a smartphone so I don't have much of a reference point, but it's a great phone. Internet is fast, operating system is easy to use, my husky fingers are already used to the virtual keyboard after a couple days, and you can watch Friday Night Lights and NFL stuff in surprisingly good quality. I had a problem with the battery draining too fast but after some internet problem solving it's good to go.
I notice that the EVO takes forever to charge. My old phone could be dead and then fully charged in like an hour or so. This one has about a quarter of battery left and it takes an hour and a half or more to charge. I don't know if all smartphones are like this, though, but it's one negative that I have noticed.
The Droid does this as well. The time from 90% charge to 100% charge seems like forever.
Oddly enough, on mine the time from 100% back down to 90% is ridiculously quick.
Definitely getting the iPhone today. I found a way to get the upgrade price of $200.00
Quote from: Yeti on June 15, 2010, 12:52:32 PM
Definitely getting the iPhone today. I found a way to get the upgrade price of $200.00
Let us know how much tail you get.
Quote from: BH on June 15, 2010, 01:07:03 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 15, 2010, 12:52:32 PM
Definitely getting the iPhone today. I found a way to get the upgrade price of $200.00
Let us know how much tail you get.
I'll be sure to drunkpost it
Quote from: Yeti on June 15, 2010, 12:52:32 PM
I found a way to get the upgrade price of $200.00
How'd you manage that?
Quote from: Eli on June 15, 2010, 01:48:33 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 15, 2010, 12:52:32 PM
I found a way to get the upgrade price of $200.00
How'd you manage that?
Traded in Red Dead Redemption, his PS3, and his dignity.
Quote from: Kermit IV on June 15, 2010, 01:58:36 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 15, 2010, 01:48:33 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 15, 2010, 12:52:32 PM
I found a way to get the upgrade price of $200.00
How'd you manage that?
Traded in Red Dead Redemption, his PS3, and his dignity.
THAT...
No, really, I'm on a shared plan with my parents. They are satisfied with their phones so I'm going to, as the AT&T guy said, "provision their upgrade" onto my line. Easy as sweet pecan pie. No issues with them having to have internet because the iPhone requires it. It will all count as my phone.
Quote from: Yeti on June 15, 2010, 02:08:58 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on June 15, 2010, 01:58:36 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 15, 2010, 01:48:33 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 15, 2010, 12:52:32 PM
I found a way to get the upgrade price of $200.00
How'd you manage that?
Traded in Red Dead Redemption, his PS3, and his dignity.
THAT...
No, really, I'm on a shared plan with my parents. They are satisfied with their phones so I'm going to, as the AT&T guy said, "provision their upgrade" onto my line. Easy as sweet pecan pie. No issues with them having to have internet because the iPhone requires it. It will all count as my phone.
Gotcha. I checked online and was told I was eligible for an upgrade at a "discount," but not the full reduced price. Apparently I have to visit a store to get the actual pricing, which I'm sure is steep.
Quote from: Eli on June 15, 2010, 02:13:02 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 15, 2010, 02:08:58 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on June 15, 2010, 01:58:36 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 15, 2010, 01:48:33 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 15, 2010, 12:52:32 PM
I found a way to get the upgrade price of $200.00
How'd you manage that?
Traded in Red Dead Redemption, his PS3, and his dignity.
THAT...
No, really, I'm on a shared plan with my parents. They are satisfied with their phones so I'm going to, as the AT&T guy said, "provision their upgrade" onto my line. Easy as sweet pecan pie. No issues with them having to have internet because the iPhone requires it. It will all count as my phone.
Gotcha. I checked online and was told I was eligible for an upgrade at a "discount," but not the full reduced price. Apparently I have to visit a store to get the actual pricing, which I'm sure is steep.
Yea. When I called, he said that I was eligible for the "early upgrade" price of $400.00 for the 16GB, which is probably $200.00 lower than the retail price. And I just upgraded 6 months ago. I figure anyone with an existing contract is eligible.
Quote from: smg on June 15, 2010, 10:28:34 AM
Preordering an iphone is exactly like buying Cubs tickets the day they went onsale. Except there's no virtual waiting room and multiple windows doesn't help. The error screen immediately after getting through is intact, however.
Didn't have this issue at all last year ...
Did you get yours or did you fall victim to them selling out of the preorders (http://www.intomobile.com/2010/06/15/att-apple-iphone-4-preorders-sold-out.html)
Quotebut the second-largest U.S. carrier said it has sold out of its allotment of first-day preorders for the iPhone 4.
That makes me think they'll be able to sell more tomorrow, but I don't know. The article also claims that you can still purchase them, and they'll be shipped at a later date, but I've yet to see this on the Apple.com store or the AT&T site.. AT&T says sold out and Apple says "We were unable to complete set up online. To finish creating your account, you'll need to visit an Apple Retail Store where we can help you in person."
Quote from: Yeti on June 15, 2010, 09:44:06 PM
Quote from: smg on June 15, 2010, 10:28:34 AM
Preordering an iphone is exactly like buying Cubs tickets the day they went onsale. Except there's no virtual waiting room and multiple windows doesn't help. The error screen immediately after getting through is intact, however.
Didn't have this issue at all last year ...
Did you get yours or did you fall victim to them selling out of the preorders (http://www.intomobile.com/2010/06/15/att-apple-iphone-4-preorders-sold-out.html)
I got through to Apple around 8 AM, so I'm good. I finally got an email confirmation tonight, and it says it is to be delivered on the 24th. I qualified for the best pricing and sold my 3GS on Gazelle for $325 in Amazon credit -- $293 for the phone in perfect condition, with a 5% bonus code and another 5% more for taking the credit. And I have until the 11th to get it to them. Works for me better than Craigslist -- financial transactions with random people aren't really my thing.
Quote from: smg on June 15, 2010, 10:10:14 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 15, 2010, 09:44:06 PM
Quote from: smg on June 15, 2010, 10:28:34 AM
Preordering an iphone is exactly like buying Cubs tickets the day they went onsale. Except there's no virtual waiting room and multiple windows doesn't help. The error screen immediately after getting through is intact, however.
Didn't have this issue at all last year ...
Did you get yours or did you fall victim to them selling out of the preorders (http://www.intomobile.com/2010/06/15/att-apple-iphone-4-preorders-sold-out.html)
I got through to Apple around 8 AM, so I'm good. I finally got an email confirmation tonight, and it says it is to be delivered on the 24th. I qualified for the best pricing and sold my 3GS on Gazelle for $325 in Amazon credit -- $293 for the phone in perfect condition, with a 5% bonus code and another 5% more for taking the credit. And I have until the 11th to get it to them. Works for me better than Craigslist -- financial transactions with random people aren't really my thing.
Yea. Craigslist is shit. You're likely to have some lady in Utah wanting to buy it and have you send it to her movie star friend shooting a movie in Africa or someone in Paris who's on a business trip who wants you to send it there. Or a Nigerian prince. Definitely one of those three..
Anyway, I was able to buy it about 30 minutes after bitching about them "selling out". So, all is right in Yeti's world. Now I just need to find the right case/cover for it. I'll be damned if I break this phone with my clumsy ass.
http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-600000-iphone-4-pre-orders-2010-6
http://www.businessinsider.com/att-iphone-4-pre-orders-10-times-higher-than-first-day-last-year-2010-6
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 16, 2010, 12:45:55 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-600000-iphone-4-pre-orders-2010-6
http://www.businessinsider.com/att-iphone-4-pre-orders-10-times-higher-than-first-day-last-year-2010-6
ATT really sucks.
Quote from: BH on June 16, 2010, 12:49:14 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 16, 2010, 12:45:55 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-600000-iphone-4-pre-orders-2010-6
http://www.businessinsider.com/att-iphone-4-pre-orders-10-times-higher-than-first-day-last-year-2010-6
ATT really sucks.
Maybe up north, but in Springfield, it's the shit. Definitely the best network in the area.
Quote from: Yeti on June 16, 2010, 01:04:02 PM
Quote from: BH on June 16, 2010, 12:49:14 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 16, 2010, 12:45:55 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-600000-iphone-4-pre-orders-2010-6
http://www.businessinsider.com/att-iphone-4-pre-orders-10-times-higher-than-first-day-last-year-2010-6
ATT really sucks.
Maybe up north, but in Springfield, it's the shit. Definitely the best network in the area.
I was extremely wary of switching from Verizon to AT&T, but it's been a non-issue. On Verizon, I had maybe one dropped call in two years. On AT&T I've had maybe 7 in a year. Sure, it's more, but it's still something like one every other month. Plus, data and voice work simultaneously, which I've been known to use, to look up movie times and the like. Also, the rollover minutes are awesome. I'm on the $40 plan, I think it is 450 minutes with free nights and weekends? I'd rarely go over that on my own, but it would happen on occasion. With the rollover minutes, I no longer give any thought at all to sitting on hold on the cell, etc. So, it's been a good trade for me. If I lived somewhere where it rarely worked, I'd feel differently.
Quote from: smg on June 16, 2010, 02:18:36 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 16, 2010, 01:04:02 PM
Quote from: BH on June 16, 2010, 12:49:14 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 16, 2010, 12:45:55 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-600000-iphone-4-pre-orders-2010-6
http://www.businessinsider.com/att-iphone-4-pre-orders-10-times-higher-than-first-day-last-year-2010-6
ATT really sucks.
Maybe up north, but in Springfield, it's the shit. Definitely the best network in the area.
I was extremely wary of switching from Verizon to AT&T, but it's been a non-issue. On Verizon, I had maybe one dropped call in two years. On AT&T I've had maybe 7 in a year. Sure, it's more, but it's still something like one every other month. Plus, data and voice work simultaneously, which I've been known to use, to look up movie times and the like. Also, the rollover minutes are awesome. I'm on the $40 plan, I think it is 450 minutes with free nights and weekends? I'd rarely go over that on my own, but it would happen on occasion. With the rollover minutes, I no longer give any thought at all to sitting on hold on the cell, etc. So, it's been a good trade for me. If I lived somewhere where it rarely worked, I'd feel differently.
I hate talking on the phone so I'm in favor of more dropped calls. It's a nice excuse to hang up on people.
Got an email stating my scheduled delivery date was today. If I get it today, I'll be happier than Thrill when Diego Forlan takes off his shirt.
I have a 3G and I installed iOS4. I can now put icons on top of icons and make folders. Yay?
I just found out I'm eligible for an upgrade through work. Looks like the iPhun4 will be mine in about a month.
It's boneriffic. That is all.
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
It's boneriffic. That is all.
ATT has started their limited data plans right? The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion.
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 08:33:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
It's boneriffic. That is all.
ATT has started their limited data plans right? The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion.
How much do you actually use? My last three months of usage were 1GB each month. I am on the internet quite a bit. I was shoutboxing, listening to slacker radio 1-2 hours per day, using the GPS, emailing, and facebook stalking like a motherfucker. And still I wasn't using but half of what their $25 plan offers. They have claimed that 99% of users don't go over 2GB. I am not worried about going over because that would mean I have doubled my internet usage. That's pretty extreme. Plus, at $25/month for 2GB, you're paying $5 less a month. I was told that if I go over, it will charge me an extra $10 and I have another GB to use.. So, if I go over every other month (not likely) then I'm paying what I was paying before. I doubt this limit will hamper most people.
Also, if you have the unlimited iPhone internet now, if you switch to the new iPhone, then they will let you keep it. The stipulation is that if you do switch to the 2GB one, you can't go back.
Since you've said dropped calls are one of your biggest complaints about the iPhone, Thrill linked this in the Sbox last night (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/iphone-4-review/)
QuoteApple has made the stainless band around the phone essentially a couple of big antennae, and they seem to be doing a pretty good job at hanging onto radio signals. The big question is obviously whether or not this fixes or helps with the constant dropped calls iPhone users on AT&T's network have gotten used to. Well in our testing, we had far, far fewer dropped calls than we experienced on our 3GS. Let's just say that again: yes, the iPhone 4 does seem to alleviate the dropped call issue.
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 08:33:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
It's boneriffic. That is all.
ATT has started their limited data plans right? The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion.
How much do you actually use? My last three months of usage were 1GB each month. I am on the internet quite a bit. I was shoutboxing, listening to slacker radio 1-2 hours per day, using the GPS, emailing, and facebook stalking like a motherfucker. And still I wasn't using but half of what their $25 plan offers. They have claimed that 99% of users don't go over 2GB. I am not worried about going over because that would mean I have doubled my internet usage. That's pretty extreme. Plus, at $25/month for 2GB, you're paying $5 less a month. I was told that if I go over, it will charge me an extra $10 and I have another GB to use.. So, if I go over every other month (not likely) then I'm paying what I was paying before. I doubt this limit will hamper most people.
Also, if you have the unlimited iPhone internet now, if you switch to the new iPhone, then they will let you keep it. The stipulation is that if you do switch to the 2GB one, you can't go back.
Since you've said dropped calls are one of your biggest complaints about the iPhone, Thrill linked this in the Sbox last night (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/iphone-4-review/)
QuoteApple has made the stainless band around the phone essentially a couple of big antennae, and they seem to be doing a pretty good job at hanging onto radio signals. The big question is obviously whether or not this fixes or helps with the constant dropped calls iPhone users on AT&T's network have gotten used to. Well in our testing, we had far, far fewer dropped calls than we experienced on our 3GS. Let's just say that again: yes, the iPhone 4 does seem to alleviate the dropped call issue.
http://gizmodo.com/5571171/iphone-4-loses-reception-when-you-hold-it-by-the-antenna-band
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 09:35:37 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 08:33:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
It's boneriffic. That is all.
ATT has started their limited data plans right? The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion.
How much do you actually use? My last three months of usage were 1GB each month. I am on the internet quite a bit. I was shoutboxing, listening to slacker radio 1-2 hours per day, using the GPS, emailing, and facebook stalking like a motherfucker. And still I wasn't using but half of what their $25 plan offers. They have claimed that 99% of users don't go over 2GB. I am not worried about going over because that would mean I have doubled my internet usage. That's pretty extreme. Plus, at $25/month for 2GB, you're paying $5 less a month. I was told that if I go over, it will charge me an extra $10 and I have another GB to use.. So, if I go over every other month (not likely) then I'm paying what I was paying before. I doubt this limit will hamper most people.
Also, if you have the unlimited iPhone internet now, if you switch to the new iPhone, then they will let you keep it. The stipulation is that if you do switch to the 2GB one, you can't go back.
Since you've said dropped calls are one of your biggest complaints about the iPhone, Thrill linked this in the Sbox last night (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/iphone-4-review/)
QuoteApple has made the stainless band around the phone essentially a couple of big antennae, and they seem to be doing a pretty good job at hanging onto radio signals. The big question is obviously whether or not this fixes or helps with the constant dropped calls iPhone users on AT&T's network have gotten used to. Well in our testing, we had far, far fewer dropped calls than we experienced on our 3GS. Let's just say that again: yes, the iPhone 4 does seem to alleviate the dropped call issue.
http://gizmodo.com/5571171/iphone-4-loses-reception-when-you-hold-it-by-the-antenna-band
I don't need your facts.
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 09:42:08 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 09:35:37 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 08:33:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
It's boneriffic. That is all.
ATT has started their limited data plans right? The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion.
How much do you actually use? My last three months of usage were 1GB each month. I am on the internet quite a bit. I was shoutboxing, listening to slacker radio 1-2 hours per day, using the GPS, emailing, and facebook stalking like a motherfucker. And still I wasn't using but half of what their $25 plan offers. They have claimed that 99% of users don't go over 2GB. I am not worried about going over because that would mean I have doubled my internet usage. That's pretty extreme. Plus, at $25/month for 2GB, you're paying $5 less a month. I was told that if I go over, it will charge me an extra $10 and I have another GB to use.. So, if I go over every other month (not likely) then I'm paying what I was paying before. I doubt this limit will hamper most people.
Also, if you have the unlimited iPhone internet now, if you switch to the new iPhone, then they will let you keep it. The stipulation is that if you do switch to the 2GB one, you can't go back.
Since you've said dropped calls are one of your biggest complaints about the iPhone, Thrill linked this in the Sbox last night (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/iphone-4-review/)
QuoteApple has made the stainless band around the phone essentially a couple of big antennae, and they seem to be doing a pretty good job at hanging onto radio signals. The big question is obviously whether or not this fixes or helps with the constant dropped calls iPhone users on AT&T's network have gotten used to. Well in our testing, we had far, far fewer dropped calls than we experienced on our 3GS. Let's just say that again: yes, the iPhone 4 does seem to alleviate the dropped call issue.
http://gizmodo.com/5571171/iphone-4-loses-reception-when-you-hold-it-by-the-antenna-band
I don't need your facts.
If you carry a phone by the antenna, you deserve to lose reception on it.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on June 24, 2010, 10:11:10 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 09:42:08 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 09:35:37 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 08:33:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
It's boneriffic. That is all.
ATT has started their limited data plans right? The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion.
How much do you actually use? My last three months of usage were 1GB each month. I am on the internet quite a bit. I was shoutboxing, listening to slacker radio 1-2 hours per day, using the GPS, emailing, and facebook stalking like a motherfucker. And still I wasn't using but half of what their $25 plan offers. They have claimed that 99% of users don't go over 2GB. I am not worried about going over because that would mean I have doubled my internet usage. That's pretty extreme. Plus, at $25/month for 2GB, you're paying $5 less a month. I was told that if I go over, it will charge me an extra $10 and I have another GB to use.. So, if I go over every other month (not likely) then I'm paying what I was paying before. I doubt this limit will hamper most people.
Also, if you have the unlimited iPhone internet now, if you switch to the new iPhone, then they will let you keep it. The stipulation is that if you do switch to the 2GB one, you can't go back.
Since you've said dropped calls are one of your biggest complaints about the iPhone, Thrill linked this in the Sbox last night (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/iphone-4-review/)
QuoteApple has made the stainless band around the phone essentially a couple of big antennae, and they seem to be doing a pretty good job at hanging onto radio signals. The big question is obviously whether or not this fixes or helps with the constant dropped calls iPhone users on AT&T's network have gotten used to. Well in our testing, we had far, far fewer dropped calls than we experienced on our 3GS. Let's just say that again: yes, the iPhone 4 does seem to alleviate the dropped call issue.
http://gizmodo.com/5571171/iphone-4-loses-reception-when-you-hold-it-by-the-antenna-band
I don't need your facts.
If you carry a phone by the antenna, you deserve to lose reception on it.
Well, I haven't had an issue. So for those keeping score at home, that's 2 pro iPhone4. 1 anti-iPhone4. We're winning!
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 10:17:00 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on June 24, 2010, 10:11:10 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 09:42:08 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 09:35:37 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 08:33:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
It's boneriffic. That is all.
ATT has started their limited data plans right? The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion.
How much do you actually use? My last three months of usage were 1GB each month. I am on the internet quite a bit. I was shoutboxing, listening to slacker radio 1-2 hours per day, using the GPS, emailing, and facebook stalking like a motherfucker. And still I wasn't using but half of what their $25 plan offers. They have claimed that 99% of users don't go over 2GB. I am not worried about going over because that would mean I have doubled my internet usage. That's pretty extreme. Plus, at $25/month for 2GB, you're paying $5 less a month. I was told that if I go over, it will charge me an extra $10 and I have another GB to use.. So, if I go over every other month (not likely) then I'm paying what I was paying before. I doubt this limit will hamper most people.
Also, if you have the unlimited iPhone internet now, if you switch to the new iPhone, then they will let you keep it. The stipulation is that if you do switch to the 2GB one, you can't go back.
Since you've said dropped calls are one of your biggest complaints about the iPhone, Thrill linked this in the Sbox last night (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/iphone-4-review/)
QuoteApple has made the stainless band around the phone essentially a couple of big antennae, and they seem to be doing a pretty good job at hanging onto radio signals. The big question is obviously whether or not this fixes or helps with the constant dropped calls iPhone users on AT&T's network have gotten used to. Well in our testing, we had far, far fewer dropped calls than we experienced on our 3GS. Let's just say that again: yes, the iPhone 4 does seem to alleviate the dropped call issue.
http://gizmodo.com/5571171/iphone-4-loses-reception-when-you-hold-it-by-the-antenna-band
I don't need your facts.
If you carry a phone by the antenna, you deserve to lose reception on it.
Well, I haven't had an issue. So for those keeping score at home, that's 2 pro iPhone4. 1 anti-iPhone4. We're winning!
I like my Droid.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 24, 2010, 10:41:56 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 10:17:00 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on June 24, 2010, 10:11:10 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 09:42:08 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 09:35:37 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 08:33:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
It's boneriffic. That is all.
ATT has started their limited data plans right? The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion.
How much do you actually use? My last three months of usage were 1GB each month. I am on the internet quite a bit. I was shoutboxing, listening to slacker radio 1-2 hours per day, using the GPS, emailing, and facebook stalking like a motherfucker. And still I wasn't using but half of what their $25 plan offers. They have claimed that 99% of users don't go over 2GB. I am not worried about going over because that would mean I have doubled my internet usage. That's pretty extreme. Plus, at $25/month for 2GB, you're paying $5 less a month. I was told that if I go over, it will charge me an extra $10 and I have another GB to use.. So, if I go over every other month (not likely) then I'm paying what I was paying before. I doubt this limit will hamper most people.
Also, if you have the unlimited iPhone internet now, if you switch to the new iPhone, then they will let you keep it. The stipulation is that if you do switch to the 2GB one, you can't go back.
Since you've said dropped calls are one of your biggest complaints about the iPhone, Thrill linked this in the Sbox last night (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/iphone-4-review/)
QuoteApple has made the stainless band around the phone essentially a couple of big antennae, and they seem to be doing a pretty good job at hanging onto radio signals. The big question is obviously whether or not this fixes or helps with the constant dropped calls iPhone users on AT&T's network have gotten used to. Well in our testing, we had far, far fewer dropped calls than we experienced on our 3GS. Let's just say that again: yes, the iPhone 4 does seem to alleviate the dropped call issue.
http://gizmodo.com/5571171/iphone-4-loses-reception-when-you-hold-it-by-the-antenna-band
I don't need your facts.
If you carry a phone by the antenna, you deserve to lose reception on it.
Well, I haven't had an issue. So for those keeping score at home, that's 2 pro iPhone4. 1 anti-iPhone4. We're winning!
I like my Droid.
It's the best sboxing Phone there is.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on June 24, 2010, 10:48:31 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 24, 2010, 10:41:56 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 10:17:00 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on June 24, 2010, 10:11:10 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 09:42:08 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 09:35:37 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 08:33:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
It's boneriffic. That is all.
ATT has started their limited data plans right? The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion.
How much do you actually use? My last three months of usage were 1GB each month. I am on the internet quite a bit. I was shoutboxing, listening to slacker radio 1-2 hours per day, using the GPS, emailing, and facebook stalking like a motherfucker. And still I wasn't using but half of what their $25 plan offers. They have claimed that 99% of users don't go over 2GB. I am not worried about going over because that would mean I have doubled my internet usage. That's pretty extreme. Plus, at $25/month for 2GB, you're paying $5 less a month. I was told that if I go over, it will charge me an extra $10 and I have another GB to use.. So, if I go over every other month (not likely) then I'm paying what I was paying before. I doubt this limit will hamper most people.
Also, if you have the unlimited iPhone internet now, if you switch to the new iPhone, then they will let you keep it. The stipulation is that if you do switch to the 2GB one, you can't go back.
Since you've said dropped calls are one of your biggest complaints about the iPhone, Thrill linked this in the Sbox last night (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/iphone-4-review/)
QuoteApple has made the stainless band around the phone essentially a couple of big antennae, and they seem to be doing a pretty good job at hanging onto radio signals. The big question is obviously whether or not this fixes or helps with the constant dropped calls iPhone users on AT&T's network have gotten used to. Well in our testing, we had far, far fewer dropped calls than we experienced on our 3GS. Let's just say that again: yes, the iPhone 4 does seem to alleviate the dropped call issue.
http://gizmodo.com/5571171/iphone-4-loses-reception-when-you-hold-it-by-the-antenna-band
I don't need your facts.
If you carry a phone by the antenna, you deserve to lose reception on it.
Well, I haven't had an issue. So for those keeping score at home, that's 2 pro iPhone4. 1 anti-iPhone4. We're winning!
I like my Droid.
It's the best sboxing Phone there is.
I was expecting something else from you in this thread, at least.
Any of you iPhone fags know of an application that I can have read a web page to me out loud?
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 11:30:14 AM
Any of you iPhone fags know of an application that I can have read a web page to me out loud?
Or an app that will feed him?
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 11:30:14 AM
Any of you iPhone fags know of an application that I can have read a web page to me out loud?
Doesn't VoiceOver do this already?
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 11:45:35 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 11:30:14 AM
Any of you iPhone fags know of an application that I can have read a web page to me out loud?
Or an app that will feed him?
This is hard...where's my Tab?
Quote from: Wheezer on June 24, 2010, 11:53:04 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 11:30:14 AM
Any of you iPhone fags know of an application that I can have read a web page to me out loud?
Doesn't VoiceOver do this already?
I know not of what you speak.. Is this something that's on the phone already (I haven't discovered it in my travels) or an app (I don't see one out there under that name)?
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 12:58:25 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on June 24, 2010, 11:53:04 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 11:30:14 AM
Any of you iPhone fags know of an application that I can have read a web page to me out loud?
Doesn't VoiceOver do this already?
I know not of what you speak.. Is this something that's on the phone already (I haven't discovered it in my travels) or an app (I don't see one out there under that name)?
Did you find an app that tracks underage girls who like to sail?
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 12:58:25 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on June 24, 2010, 11:53:04 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 11:30:14 AM
Any of you iPhone fags know of an application that I can have read a web page to me out loud?
Doesn't VoiceOver do this already?
I know not of what you speak.. Is this something that's on the phone already (I haven't discovered it in my travels) or an app (I don't see one out there under that name)?
The former (http://help.apple.com/iphone/4/voiceover/en/iph3e2e4218.html).
Quote from: Wheezer on June 24, 2010, 01:20:27 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 12:58:25 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on June 24, 2010, 11:53:04 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 11:30:14 AM
Any of you iPhone fags know of an application that I can have read a web page to me out loud?
Doesn't VoiceOver do this already?
I know not of what you speak.. Is this something that's on the phone already (I haven't discovered it in my travels) or an app (I don't see one out there under that name)?
The former (http://help.apple.com/iphone/4/voiceover/en/iph3e2e4218.html).
Ah, ok. Thanks.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on June 24, 2010, 10:11:10 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 09:42:08 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 09:35:37 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 08:33:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
It's boneriffic. That is all.
ATT has started their limited data plans right? The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion.
How much do you actually use? My last three months of usage were 1GB each month. I am on the internet quite a bit. I was shoutboxing, listening to slacker radio 1-2 hours per day, using the GPS, emailing, and facebook stalking like a motherfucker. And still I wasn't using but half of what their $25 plan offers. They have claimed that 99% of users don't go over 2GB. I am not worried about going over because that would mean I have doubled my internet usage. That's pretty extreme. Plus, at $25/month for 2GB, you're paying $5 less a month. I was told that if I go over, it will charge me an extra $10 and I have another GB to use.. So, if I go over every other month (not likely) then I'm paying what I was paying before. I doubt this limit will hamper most people.
Also, if you have the unlimited iPhone internet now, if you switch to the new iPhone, then they will let you keep it. The stipulation is that if you do switch to the 2GB one, you can't go back.
Since you've said dropped calls are one of your biggest complaints about the iPhone, Thrill linked this in the Sbox last night (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/iphone-4-review/)
QuoteApple has made the stainless band around the phone essentially a couple of big antennae, and they seem to be doing a pretty good job at hanging onto radio signals. The big question is obviously whether or not this fixes or helps with the constant dropped calls iPhone users on AT&T's network have gotten used to. Well in our testing, we had far, far fewer dropped calls than we experienced on our 3GS. Let's just say that again: yes, the iPhone 4 does seem to alleviate the dropped call issue.
http://gizmodo.com/5571171/iphone-4-loses-reception-when-you-hold-it-by-the-antenna-band
I don't need your facts.
If you carry a phone by the antenna, you deserve to lose reception on it.
The antenna is integrated in to the metal band that wraps around the phone.
(http://imgur.com/Ic0dS.jpg)
Quote from: ChuckD on June 24, 2010, 08:01:57 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on June 24, 2010, 10:11:10 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 09:42:08 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 09:35:37 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 08:33:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
It's boneriffic. That is all.
ATT has started their limited data plans right? The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion.
How much do you actually use? My last three months of usage were 1GB each month. I am on the internet quite a bit. I was shoutboxing, listening to slacker radio 1-2 hours per day, using the GPS, emailing, and facebook stalking like a motherfucker. And still I wasn't using but half of what their $25 plan offers. They have claimed that 99% of users don't go over 2GB. I am not worried about going over because that would mean I have doubled my internet usage. That's pretty extreme. Plus, at $25/month for 2GB, you're paying $5 less a month. I was told that if I go over, it will charge me an extra $10 and I have another GB to use.. So, if I go over every other month (not likely) then I'm paying what I was paying before. I doubt this limit will hamper most people.
Also, if you have the unlimited iPhone internet now, if you switch to the new iPhone, then they will let you keep it. The stipulation is that if you do switch to the 2GB one, you can't go back.
Since you've said dropped calls are one of your biggest complaints about the iPhone, Thrill linked this in the Sbox last night (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/iphone-4-review/)
QuoteApple has made the stainless band around the phone essentially a couple of big antennae, and they seem to be doing a pretty good job at hanging onto radio signals. The big question is obviously whether or not this fixes or helps with the constant dropped calls iPhone users on AT&T's network have gotten used to. Well in our testing, we had far, far fewer dropped calls than we experienced on our 3GS. Let's just say that again: yes, the iPhone 4 does seem to alleviate the dropped call issue.
http://gizmodo.com/5571171/iphone-4-loses-reception-when-you-hold-it-by-the-antenna-band
I don't need your facts.
If you carry a phone by the antenna, you deserve to lose reception on it.
The antenna is integrated in to the metal band that wraps around the phone.
(http://imgur.com/Ic0dS.jpg)
Do they still make phones with extendable antennae?
Quote from: Night Man on June 24, 2010, 09:13:10 PM
Do they still make phones with extendable antennae?
A quarter-wave whip cut for 2100 MHz would be about an inch and a half long.
I know the iphone is sweet, no need to bother replying Yeti.
For RV and tdubbs and their fancy Android phones, can i get an update since you've had them for a little while now?
Quote from: BH on June 28, 2010, 03:29:02 PM
I know the iphone is sweet, no need to bother replying Yeti.
For RV and tdubbs and their fancy Android phones, can i get an update since you've had them for a little while now?
It rox my sox.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 28, 2010, 03:47:11 PM
Quote from: BH on June 28, 2010, 03:29:02 PM
I know the iphone is sweet, no need to bother replying Yeti.
For RV and tdubbs and their fancy Android phones, can i get an update since you've had them for a little while now?
It rox my sox. It's awesome as dick.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 28, 2010, 03:47:11 PM
Quote from: BH on June 28, 2010, 03:29:02 PM
I know the iphone is sweet, no need to bother replying Yeti.
For RV and tdubbs and their fancy Android phones, can i get an update since you've had them for a little while now?
It rox my sox.
Battery drain is still an issue. I have to charge it basically every night - that one charge gets me a dozen or so phone calls or texts and an hour or two of internetsing. As long as you don't mind plugging it in overnight it's the tits.
Quote from: R-V on June 28, 2010, 04:29:14 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 28, 2010, 03:47:11 PM
Quote from: BH on June 28, 2010, 03:29:02 PM
I know the iphone is sweet, no need to bother replying Yeti.
For RV and tdubbs and their fancy Android phones, can i get an update since you've had them for a little while now?
It rox my sox.
Battery drain is still an issue. I have to charge it basically every night - that one charge gets me a dozen or so phone calls or texts and an hour or two of internetsing. As long as you don't mind plugging it in overnight it's the tits.
You have android 2.1 running on yours? Saw that it's available and supposed to perform a lot better.
Quote from: BH on June 28, 2010, 04:30:36 PM
Quote from: R-V on June 28, 2010, 04:29:14 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 28, 2010, 03:47:11 PM
Quote from: BH on June 28, 2010, 03:29:02 PM
I know the iphone is sweet, no need to bother replying Yeti.
For RV and tdubbs and their fancy Android phones, can i get an update since you've had them for a little while now?
It rox my sox.
Battery drain is still an issue. I have to charge it basically every night - that one charge gets me a dozen or so phone calls or texts and an hour or two of internetsing. As long as you don't mind plugging it in overnight it's the tits.
You have android 2.1 running on yours? Saw that it's available and supposed to perform a lot better.
I've heard that the Motorola Droid that I have is getting Android 2.2 this July, so that's cool too.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 28, 2010, 04:33:04 PM
Quote from: BH on June 28, 2010, 04:30:36 PM
Quote from: R-V on June 28, 2010, 04:29:14 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 28, 2010, 03:47:11 PM
Quote from: BH on June 28, 2010, 03:29:02 PM
I know the iphone is sweet, no need to bother replying Yeti.
For RV and tdubbs and their fancy Android phones, can i get an update since you've had them for a little while now?
It rox my sox.
Battery drain is still an issue. I have to charge it basically every night - that one charge gets me a dozen or so phone calls or texts and an hour or two of internetsing. As long as you don't mind plugging it in overnight it's the tits.
You have android 2.1 running on yours? Saw that it's available and supposed to perform a lot better.
I've heard that the Motorola Droid that I have is getting Android 2.2 this July, so that's cool too.
The new droid x looks awesome.
Quote from: BH on June 28, 2010, 04:30:36 PM
Quote from: R-V on June 28, 2010, 04:29:14 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 28, 2010, 03:47:11 PM
Quote from: BH on June 28, 2010, 03:29:02 PM
I know the iphone is sweet, no need to bother replying Yeti.
For RV and tdubbs and their fancy Android phones, can i get an update since you've had them for a little while now?
It rox my sox.
Battery drain is still an issue. I have to charge it basically every night - that one charge gets me a dozen or so phone calls or texts and an hour or two of internetsing. As long as you don't mind plugging it in overnight it's the tits.
You have android 2.1 running on yours? Saw that it's available and supposed to perform a lot better.
Yeah - I downloaded 2.1 as soon as I got the phone, so I can't compare it to the previous version. Seems pretty smooth to me.
If you do end up getting 2.1, do this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651848). I was having massive battery problems when I first got the phone but this was a huge help.
Quote from: R-V on June 28, 2010, 05:09:53 PM
Quote from: BH on June 28, 2010, 04:30:36 PM
Quote from: R-V on June 28, 2010, 04:29:14 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 28, 2010, 03:47:11 PM
Quote from: BH on June 28, 2010, 03:29:02 PM
I know the iphone is sweet, no need to bother replying Yeti.
For RV and tdubbs and their fancy Android phones, can i get an update since you've had them for a little while now?
It rox my sox.
Battery drain is still an issue. I have to charge it basically every night - that one charge gets me a dozen or so phone calls or texts and an hour or two of internetsing. As long as you don't mind plugging it in overnight it's the tits.
You have android 2.1 running on yours? Saw that it's available and supposed to perform a lot better.
Yeah - I downloaded 2.1 as soon as I got the phone, so I can't compare it to the previous version. Seems pretty smooth to me.
If you do end up getting 2.1, do this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651848). I was having massive battery problems when I first got the phone but this was a huge help.
I recall seeing an analogy along the lines of
Android : iPhone :: Desktop Linux : OS X. This sort of stuff seems to reaffirm that...
QuoteFirst things first, go into Settings> About Phone> Battery> Battery Use> Cell Standby. Assuming your phone has been on, or off the charger for ~10 minutes, it should show Time Without Signal at around 50%.
Next thing, press HOME, and bring up the dialer. Dial *#*#4636#*#* (Do not press "Call"). After a second, it should bring up the "Testing" menu.
Go into Phone Information, press MENU, and tap "select radio band." You should experience a Force Close, don't panic, this was supposed to happen. Scrolling down shows that the preferred network type is GSM auto (prl).
What this means is that even though you are connected to a CDMA network, your phone is trying to find a GSM network, preventing the radio from sleeping, and causing excessive battery drain.
Remedy this by tapping GSM auto (prl), and changing it to CDMA auto (prl).
Quote from: R-V on June 28, 2010, 04:29:14 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 28, 2010, 03:47:11 PM
Quote from: BH on June 28, 2010, 03:29:02 PM
I know the iphone is sweet, no need to bother replying Yeti.
For RV and tdubbs and their fancy Android phones, can i get an update since you've had them for a little while now?
It rox my sox.
Battery drain is still an issue. I have to charge it basically every night - that one charge gets me a dozen or so phone calls or texts and an hour or two of internetsing. As long as you don't mind plugging it in overnight it's the tits.
If it's that big of a pain in the ass to plug in a phone at night, it's no wonder you only eat frozen food.
Quote from: BH on June 28, 2010, 03:29:02 PM
I know the iphone is sweet, no need to bother replying Yeti.
For RV and tdubbs and their fancy Android phones, can i get an update since you've had them for a little while now?
The HD video is very handy, let me telll ya.
Quote from: Yeti on June 28, 2010, 08:19:14 PM
Quote from: BH on June 28, 2010, 03:29:02 PM
I know the iphone is sweet, no need to bother replying Yeti.
For RV and tdubbs and their fancy Android phones, can i get an update since you've had them for a little while now?
The HD video is very handy, let me telll ya.
Yeti's been hanging out at the playground a lot lately, "checking stock quotes" on his iPhone.
You Droid dudes, FYI, Kindle for Android came out recently, and it's good and free. Download it. There are plenty of free books on the Amazon Marketplace to keep you busy.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 28, 2010, 07:07:40 PM
Quote from: R-V on June 28, 2010, 04:29:14 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 28, 2010, 03:47:11 PM
Quote from: BH on June 28, 2010, 03:29:02 PM
I know the iphone is sweet, no need to bother replying Yeti.
For RV and tdubbs and their fancy Android phones, can i get an update since you've had them for a little while now?
It rox my sox.
Battery drain is still an issue. I have to charge it basically every night - that one charge gets me a dozen or so phone calls or texts and an hour or two of internetsing. As long as you don't mind plugging it in overnight it's the tits.
If it's that big of a pain in the ass to plug in a phone at night, it's no wonder you only eat frozen food.
It's not a pain in the ass for me. Thought it might be for others. Sweet zinger though.
The iPhone 4 antenna issue in action:
http://vimeo.com/12864890
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 28, 2010, 05:28:46 PM
Quote from: R-V on June 28, 2010, 05:09:53 PM
Quote from: BH on June 28, 2010, 04:30:36 PM
Quote from: R-V on June 28, 2010, 04:29:14 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 28, 2010, 03:47:11 PM
Quote from: BH on June 28, 2010, 03:29:02 PM
I know the iphone is sweet, no need to bother replying Yeti.
For RV and tdubbs and their fancy Android phones, can i get an update since you've had them for a little while now?
It rox my sox.
Battery drain is still an issue. I have to charge it basically every night - that one charge gets me a dozen or so phone calls or texts and an hour or two of internetsing. As long as you don't mind plugging it in overnight it's the tits.
You have android 2.1 running on yours? Saw that it's available and supposed to perform a lot better.
Yeah - I downloaded 2.1 as soon as I got the phone, so I can't compare it to the previous version. Seems pretty smooth to me.
If you do end up getting 2.1, do this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651848). I was having massive battery problems when I first got the phone but this was a huge help.
I recall seeing an analogy along the lines of Android : iPhone :: Desktop Linux : OS X. This sort of stuff seems to reaffirm that...
QuoteFirst things first, go into Settings> About Phone> Battery> Battery Use> Cell Standby. Assuming your phone has been on, or off the charger for ~10 minutes, it should show Time Without Signal at around 50%.
Next thing, press HOME, and bring up the dialer. Dial *#*#4636#*#* (Do not press "Call"). After a second, it should bring up the "Testing" menu.
Go into Phone Information, press MENU, and tap "select radio band." You should experience a Force Close, don't panic, this was supposed to happen. Scrolling down shows that the preferred network type is GSM auto (prl).
What this means is that even though you are connected to a CDMA network, your phone is trying to find a GSM network, preventing the radio from sleeping, and causing excessive battery drain.
Remedy this by tapping GSM auto (prl), and changing it to CDMA auto (prl).
True, although there's an app that makes it really easy to do.
QuoteAs has been noted elsewhere, the application "Network" from the market also provides quick access to this setting.
Verizon users have heard this before, but FWIW. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-29/verizon-wireless-said-to-start-offering-iphone-ending-at-t-s-exclusivity.html
If any of you are in the market for a desktop, I can't recommend the 27" iMac enough. The screen is awesome. A $250 box (cheaper options are out there) lets you use any HDMI device (PS3 in my case) on it through the Mini DisplayPort video in feature. It's also almost as fast as a Mac Pro, and even faster in some aspects.
Somehow, I feel this somehow relates to some of the Wrigley Field patrons...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg&feature=related
Quote from: MidgetSellingWater on June 29, 2010, 10:47:42 PM
Somehow, I feel this somehow relates to some of the Wrigley Field patrons...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAOtC9QfXac
Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 29, 2010, 04:55:02 PM
Verizon users have heard this before, but FWIW. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-29/verizon-wireless-said-to-start-offering-iphone-ending-at-t-s-exclusivity.html
So 2 random anonymous sources have said this is happening and it's considered a great source?
I thought before apple had stated their exclusivity agreement with ATT was through 2012?
This happens every time a new iphone comes out, i'm guessing, so that verizon can curb the rush of people buying these ATT phones?
Quote from: BH on June 30, 2010, 08:16:51 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 29, 2010, 04:55:02 PM
Verizon users have heard this before, but FWIW. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-29/verizon-wireless-said-to-start-offering-iphone-ending-at-t-s-exclusivity.html
So 2 random anonymous sources have said this is happening and it's considered a great source?
I thought before apple had stated their exclusivity agreement with ATT was through 2012?
This happens every time a new iphone comes out, i'm guessing, so that verizon can curb the rush of people buying these ATT phones?
I remember reading something about the 4G technology Verizon will be using is not compatible with the iphones.
Quote from: air2300 on June 30, 2010, 11:47:45 AM
Quote from: BH on June 30, 2010, 08:16:51 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 29, 2010, 04:55:02 PM
Verizon users have heard this before, but FWIW. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-29/verizon-wireless-said-to-start-offering-iphone-ending-at-t-s-exclusivity.html
So 2 random anonymous sources have said this is happening and it's considered a great source?
I thought before apple had stated their exclusivity agreement with ATT was through 2012?
This happens every time a new iphone comes out, i'm guessing, so that verizon can curb the rush of people buying these ATT phones?
I remember reading something about the 4G technology Verizon will be using is not compatible with the iphones.
Allegedly, Apple is contracting with some Taiwanese firm to manufacture iPhones that work on CDMA networks. However, as Thrill noted yesterday in the SBox, having two different mode iPhones doesn't seem like Apple's style.
This whole issue might be more along the lines of what BH noted. Namely, it's just a way to stop the masses from heading over to ATT en masse.
Guy at work bought a new iphone. Took him over 9 hours to get it activated. Go ATT.
Quote from: BH on June 30, 2010, 12:39:34 PM
Guy at work bought a new iphone. Took him over 9 hours to get it activated. Go ATT.
A guy on this messageboard bought an iPhone. Took him 15 minutes to get it activated. Go AT&T
And that includes transfer of all the contacts.
Quote from: BH on June 30, 2010, 12:39:34 PM
Guy at work bought a new iphone. Took him over 9 hours to get it activated. Go ATT.
A guy at your work has brain damage.
Quote from: Yeti on June 30, 2010, 12:43:21 PM
Quote from: BH on June 30, 2010, 12:39:34 PM
Guy at work bought a new iphone. Took him over 9 hours to get it activated. Go ATT.
A guy on this messageboard bought an iPhone. Took him 15 minutes to get it activated. Go AT&T
And that includes transfer of all the contacts.
If you worked for a company cool enough to get a corporate discount, you wouldn't have. BathTubby.
NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/mobile/06/30/leaked.apple.docs.mashable/index.html?eref=igoogle_cnn
QuoteAccording to documents leaked to Boy Genius Report today, AppleCare representatives are being given a strong company line to deliver to unhappy iPhone 4 owners who complain about reception issues.
Employees are told to say that the device's reception performance "is the best we have ever shipped" and that its critical antenna flaws are "a fact of life in the wireless world." They are told not to perform service on iPhones with these problems and instead to give customers a PR-driven recitative instead.
Despite this, Apple just recently posted positions for "antenna engineers."
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/06/apple-job-search-antenna-engineers.jpg)
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/apple-hiring-iphone-antenna-engineers-for-some-reason/
Quote from: Eli on June 30, 2010, 01:06:44 PM
Despite this, Apple just recently posted positions for "antenna engineers."
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/06/apple-job-search-antenna-engineers.jpg)
Those guys all live in the hills. One might as well march up and down wearing a blank sandwich board in front of TDubbs' condo.
So I think I've officially decided to join Chad and get the WAR MACHINE HTC Evo phone. Sprint's plans are cheap, so that's the biggest plus.
And if it makes/receives calls it's better than what I have now with my iphone.
And the Hero isn't getting the droid 2.2 update, so they're phasing out that phone (which seems like a cool phone).
Battery life sucks, but I rarely go to places that don't have electricity anymore. And I think you can change a few things to help the crap
battery life.
Quote from: BH on July 01, 2010, 09:11:33 AM
So I think I've officially decided to join Chad and get the WAR MACHINE HTC Evo phone. Sprint's plans are cheap, so that's the biggest plus.
And if it makes/receives calls it's better than what I have now with my iphone.
And the Hero isn't getting the droid 2.2 update, so they're phasing out that phone (which seems like a cool phone).
Battery life sucks, but I rarely go to places that don't have electricity anymore. And I think you can change a few things to help the crap
battery life.
AT&T didn't want your smug walrus ass
Quote from: BH on July 01, 2010, 09:11:33 AM
So I think I've officially decided to join Chad and get the WAR MACHINE HTC Evo phone. Sprint's plans are cheap, so that's the biggest plus.
And if it makes/receives calls it's better than what I have now with my iphone.
And the Hero isn't getting the droid 2.2 update, so they're phasing out that phone (which seems like a cool phone).
Battery life sucks, but I rarely go to places that don't have electricity anymore. And I think you can change a few things to help the crap
battery life.
The biggest battery saver for me is to disable wifi and mobile internet when I'm at work and don't need phoneternets.
Quote from: R-V on July 01, 2010, 09:36:40 AM
Quote from: BH on July 01, 2010, 09:11:33 AM
So I think I've officially decided to join Chad and get the WAR MACHINE HTC Evo phone. Sprint's plans are cheap, so that's the biggest plus.
And if it makes/receives calls it's better than what I have now with my iphone.
And the Hero isn't getting the droid 2.2 update, so they're phasing out that phone (which seems like a cool phone).
Battery life sucks, but I rarely go to places that don't have electricity anymore. And I think you can change a few things to help the crap
battery life.
The biggest battery saver for me is to disable wifi and mobile internet when I'm at work and don't need phoneternets.
You ever try the hotspot/tethering ? I'm assuming it's slow.
Quote from: BH on July 01, 2010, 10:03:32 AM
Quote from: R-V on July 01, 2010, 09:36:40 AM
Quote from: BH on July 01, 2010, 09:11:33 AM
So I think I've officially decided to join Chad and get the WAR MACHINE HTC Evo phone. Sprint's plans are cheap, so that's the biggest plus.
And if it makes/receives calls it's better than what I have now with my iphone.
And the Hero isn't getting the droid 2.2 update, so they're phasing out that phone (which seems like a cool phone).
Battery life sucks, but I rarely go to places that don't have electricity anymore. And I think you can change a few things to help the crap
battery life.
The biggest battery saver for me is to disable wifi and mobile internet when I'm at work and don't need phoneternets.
You ever try the hotspot/tethering ? I'm assuming it's slow.
Nope. The only tethering I'm familiar with is Yeti chaining his nubile cavelakeleviathan to the radiator while he's at work.
Was looking at phone plans this morning and ran across this, in chicago we pay 19% taxes on cell phone plans?
1. Chicago: 19.02 percent
2. New York City: 16.20 percent
3. Jacksonville (Florida): 15.99
4. Miami (Florida): 15.89
5. Seattle (Washington): 14.79
6. Baltimore (Maryland): 14.54
7. Philadelphia (Pennsylvania): 14.01
8. Houston (Texas): 12.39
9. Los Angeles (California): 11.72
10. Washington, DC: 11.53
Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/Chicago-Has-Highest-Cell-Phone-Taxes-79286302.html#ixzz0sWwnZaZL
Quote from: BH on July 02, 2010, 08:15:02 AM
Was looking at phone plans this morning and ran across this, in chicago we pay 19% taxes on cell phone plans?
Damn it. More ammo for LeBron to stay in Cleveland.
http://www.loopinsight.com/2010/07/14/apple-to-hold-special-iphone-4-press-conference-on-friday/
Quote from: BH on July 01, 2010, 09:11:33 AM
So I think I've officially decided to join Chad and get the WAR MACHINE HTC Evo phone. Sprint's plans are cheap, so that's the biggest plus.
And if it makes/receives calls it's better than what I have now with my iphone.
And the Hero isn't getting the droid 2.2 update, so they're phasing out that phone (which seems like a cool phone).
Battery life sucks, but I rarely go to places that don't have electricity anymore. And I think you can change a few things to help the crap battery life.
So how's the WAR MACHINE? Which dialing wands are compatible with it?
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 08:33:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
It's boneriffic. That is all.
ATT has started their limited data plans right? The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion.
How much do you actually use? My last three months of usage were 1GB each month. I am on the internet quite a bit. I was shoutboxing, listening to slacker radio 1-2 hours per day, using the GPS, emailing, and facebook stalking like a motherfucker. And still I wasn't using but half of what their $25 plan offers. They have claimed that 99% of users don't go over 2GB. I am not worried about going over because that would mean I have doubled my internet usage. That's pretty extreme. Plus, at $25/month for 2GB, you're paying $5 less a month. I was told that if I go over, it will charge me an extra $10 and I have another GB to use.. So, if I go over every other month (not likely) then I'm paying what I was paying before. I doubt this limit will hamper most people.
Also, if you have the unlimited iPhone internet now, if you switch to the new iPhone, then they will let you keep it. The stipulation is that if you do switch to the 2GB one, you can't go back.
So, I got a text message from AT&T last night stating that I had used 65% of my internet usage, 14 days through the month. I checked online and it said I've used 1.4GB of the 2.048GB.. My usage has changed in that I'm listening to Internet radio about 6-7 hours of my work day. I guess I'm a part of that 1% that needs more than 2GB? I call shenanigans. Also, any of you know that if I'm using Wi-Fi does that somehow count as my usage? I wouldn't think it does, but you never know.
Quote from: Yeti on July 15, 2010, 08:32:21 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 08:33:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
It's boneriffic. That is all.
ATT has started their limited data plans right? The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion.
How much do you actually use? My last three months of usage were 1GB each month. I am on the internet quite a bit. I was shoutboxing, listening to slacker radio 1-2 hours per day, using the GPS, emailing, and facebook stalking like a motherfucker. And still I wasn't using but half of what their $25 plan offers. They have claimed that 99% of users don't go over 2GB. I am not worried about going over because that would mean I have doubled my internet usage. That's pretty extreme. Plus, at $25/month for 2GB, you're paying $5 less a month. I was told that if I go over, it will charge me an extra $10 and I have another GB to use.. So, if I go over every other month (not likely) then I'm paying what I was paying before. I doubt this limit will hamper most people.
Also, if you have the unlimited iPhone internet now, if you switch to the new iPhone, then they will let you keep it. The stipulation is that if you do switch to the 2GB one, you can't go back.
So, I got a text message from AT&T last night stating that I had used 65% of my internet usage, 14 days through the month. I checked online and it said I've used 1.4GB of the 2.048GB.. My usage has changed in that I'm listening to Internet radio about 6-7 hours of my work day. I guess I'm a part of that 1% that needs more than 2GB? I call shenanigans. Also, any of you know that if I'm using Wi-Fi does that somehow count as my usage? I wouldn't think it does, but you never know.
Get a fucking radio
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on July 15, 2010, 08:37:54 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 15, 2010, 08:32:21 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 08:33:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
It's boneriffic. That is all.
ATT has started their limited data plans right? The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion.
How much do you actually use? My last three months of usage were 1GB each month. I am on the internet quite a bit. I was shoutboxing, listening to slacker radio 1-2 hours per day, using the GPS, emailing, and facebook stalking like a motherfucker. And still I wasn't using but half of what their $25 plan offers. They have claimed that 99% of users don't go over 2GB. I am not worried about going over because that would mean I have doubled my internet usage. That's pretty extreme. Plus, at $25/month for 2GB, you're paying $5 less a month. I was told that if I go over, it will charge me an extra $10 and I have another GB to use.. So, if I go over every other month (not likely) then I'm paying what I was paying before. I doubt this limit will hamper most people.
Also, if you have the unlimited iPhone internet now, if you switch to the new iPhone, then they will let you keep it. The stipulation is that if you do switch to the 2GB one, you can't go back.
So, I got a text message from AT&T last night stating that I had used 65% of my internet usage, 14 days through the month. I checked online and it said I've used 1.4GB of the 2.048GB.. My usage has changed in that I'm listening to Internet radio about 6-7 hours of my work day. I guess I'm a part of that 1% that needs more than 2GB? I call shenanigans. Also, any of you know that if I'm using Wi-Fi does that somehow count as my usage? I wouldn't think it does, but you never know.
Get a fucking radio
Or some mp3s, man.
Quote from: Yeti on July 15, 2010, 08:32:21 AM
So, I got a text message from AT&T last night stating that I had used 65% of my internet usage, 14 days through the month. I checked online and it said I've used 1.4GB of the 2.048GB.. My usage has changed in that I'm listening to Internet radio about 6-7 hours of my work day. I guess I'm a part of that 1% that needs more than 2GB? I call shenanigans. Also, any of you know that if I'm using Wi-Fi does that somehow count as my usage? I wouldn't think it does, but you never know.
If you're using Slacker or Pandora, why not just stream through your computer? Or are all of those sites blocked?
Streaming uses a ton of bandwidth. You probably shouldn't do it on your phone unless you really want to pay for the privilege. But considering how much drywall costs...
Quote from: Eli on July 15, 2010, 08:44:56 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 15, 2010, 08:32:21 AM
So, I got a text message from AT&T last night stating that I had used 65% of my internet usage, 14 days through the month. I checked online and it said I've used 1.4GB of the 2.048GB.. My usage has changed in that I'm listening to Internet radio about 6-7 hours of my work day. I guess I'm a part of that 1% that needs more than 2GB? I call shenanigans. Also, any of you know that if I'm using Wi-Fi does that somehow count as my usage? I wouldn't think it does, but you never know.
If you're using Slacker or Pandora, why not just stream through your computer? Or are all of those sites blocked?
My work would frown upon me using that much of the bandwidth. We were told a while back to not stream videos/music/etc because they have a T1 line. Seemed like it wasn't sufficient for a building of 150 people, but I may be wrong. However, on Wednesdays, I usually watch that Zero Punctuation (funny video game reviewer) thing that I've linked to a couple times in the Basement and I usually have to buffer it a bit, but yesterday, it didn't need to buffer at all, so I think it's possible I could do it.
I think the best option now would be to dive into the world of downloading music for free (since you can't OWN music, you know). Anyone have any suggestions? I've never done this in a high quantity before.
EDIT: I am looking for something that structures it really well. If I were to have this on my iPhone/Pod I'd want everything in it's correct folders, under the right artist/album. I'm a big stickler about that stuff being perfect and organized. Am I going to be able to get that without a lot of maintenance? Or am I going to have to spend some time renaming shit?
Quote from: Bort on July 15, 2010, 08:45:46 AM
Streaming uses a ton of bandwidth. You probably shouldn't do it on your phone unless you really want to pay for the privilege. But considering how much drywall costs...
I was messing with AT&Ts data usage calculator and using only 4 hours a day of music streaming (to average it out with weekends where I might not do it), uses over 3GB of usage.. Jeebus. I can cache stations on Slacker, but I'm not sure if it will use the 3G regardless if it needs to or not.
Quote from: Yeti on July 15, 2010, 08:32:21 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 08:33:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
It's boneriffic. That is all.
ATT has started their limited data plans right? The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion.
How much do you actually use? My last three months of usage were 1GB each month. I am on the internet quite a bit. I was shoutboxing, listening to slacker radio 1-2 hours per day, using the GPS, emailing, and facebook stalking like a motherfucker. And still I wasn't using but half of what their $25 plan offers. They have claimed that 99% of users don't go over 2GB. I am not worried about going over because that would mean I have doubled my internet usage. That's pretty extreme. Plus, at $25/month for 2GB, you're paying $5 less a month. I was told that if I go over, it will charge me an extra $10 and I have another GB to use.. So, if I go over every other month (not likely) then I'm paying what I was paying before. I doubt this limit will hamper most people.
Also, if you have the unlimited iPhone internet now, if you switch to the new iPhone, then they will let you keep it. The stipulation is that if you do switch to the 2GB one, you can't go back.
So, I got a text message from AT&T last night stating that I had used 65% of my internet usage, 14 days through the month. I checked online and it said I've used 1.4GB of the 2.048GB.. My usage has changed in that I'm listening to Internet radio about 6-7 hours of my work day. I guess I'm a part of that 1% that needs more than 2GB? I call shenanigans. Also, any of you know that if I'm using Wi-Fi does that somehow count as my usage? I wouldn't think it does, but you never know.
I don't believe so. I think you just get charged for using 3G.
Quote from: R-V on July 15, 2010, 08:25:46 AM
Quote from: BH on July 01, 2010, 09:11:33 AM
So I think I've officially decided to join Chad and get the WAR MACHINE HTC Evo phone. Sprint's plans are cheap, so that's the biggest plus.
And if it makes/receives calls it's better than what I have now with my iphone.
And the Hero isn't getting the droid 2.2 update, so they're phasing out that phone (which seems like a cool phone).
Battery life sucks, but I rarely go to places that don't have electricity anymore. And I think you can change a few things to help the crap battery life.
So how's the WAR MACHINE? Which dialing wands are compatible with it?
My contract just ran out this week, so I'll be making a decision shortly.
Quote from: R-V on July 15, 2010, 09:02:10 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 15, 2010, 08:32:21 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 08:33:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
It's boneriffic. That is all.
ATT has started their limited data plans right? The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion.
How much do you actually use? My last three months of usage were 1GB each month. I am on the internet quite a bit. I was shoutboxing, listening to slacker radio 1-2 hours per day, using the GPS, emailing, and facebook stalking like a motherfucker. And still I wasn't using but half of what their $25 plan offers. They have claimed that 99% of users don't go over 2GB. I am not worried about going over because that would mean I have doubled my internet usage. That's pretty extreme. Plus, at $25/month for 2GB, you're paying $5 less a month. I was told that if I go over, it will charge me an extra $10 and I have another GB to use.. So, if I go over every other month (not likely) then I'm paying what I was paying before. I doubt this limit will hamper most people.
Also, if you have the unlimited iPhone internet now, if you switch to the new iPhone, then they will let you keep it. The stipulation is that if you do switch to the 2GB one, you can't go back.
So, I got a text message from AT&T last night stating that I had used 65% of my internet usage, 14 days through the month. I checked online and it said I've used 1.4GB of the 2.048GB.. My usage has changed in that I'm listening to Internet radio about 6-7 hours of my work day. I guess I'm a part of that 1% that needs more than 2GB? I call shenanigans. Also, any of you know that if I'm using Wi-Fi does that somehow count as my usage? I wouldn't think it does, but you never know.
I don't believe so. I think you just get charged for using 3G.
Yeah, and if you're streaming all day at work, you're either using the 3G or still violating office policy if using the wifi.
Googling led me to this:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2010/06/pandora-iphone.html
QuotePop & Hiss conducted a test run of an hour of continuous music streaming on the default sound-quality setting with Pandora on the iPhone. (Flipping on high-quality streaming doesn't make a huge difference in bandwidth consumption.) It weighed in at just under 16 megabytes.
In other words, you'd need to stream about 4 hours on Pandora every day to hit the 2-gig monthly limit.
1.4 GB in two weeks works out to just over 100 MB per day, or 140 MB per work day. Used for nothing else but Pandora, that would be around 6.5 hours per day over 14 days and 9 hours per day over 10 days, according to the LA Times' test.
Then, of course, you have to consider other stuff you use the 3G for. Googling tells me the average Youtube video is 10 MB per minute (so a minute of Youtube is equivalent to 30-40 minutes on Pandora).
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 15, 2010, 10:39:54 AM
Quote from: R-V on July 15, 2010, 09:02:10 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 15, 2010, 08:32:21 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 08:33:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
It's boneriffic. That is all.
ATT has started their limited data plans right? The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion.
How much do you actually use? My last three months of usage were 1GB each month. I am on the internet quite a bit. I was shoutboxing, listening to slacker radio 1-2 hours per day, using the GPS, emailing, and facebook stalking like a motherfucker. And still I wasn't using but half of what their $25 plan offers. They have claimed that 99% of users don't go over 2GB. I am not worried about going over because that would mean I have doubled my internet usage. That's pretty extreme. Plus, at $25/month for 2GB, you're paying $5 less a month. I was told that if I go over, it will charge me an extra $10 and I have another GB to use.. So, if I go over every other month (not likely) then I'm paying what I was paying before. I doubt this limit will hamper most people.
Also, if you have the unlimited iPhone internet now, if you switch to the new iPhone, then they will let you keep it. The stipulation is that if you do switch to the 2GB one, you can't go back.
So, I got a text message from AT&T last night stating that I had used 65% of my internet usage, 14 days through the month. I checked online and it said I've used 1.4GB of the 2.048GB.. My usage has changed in that I'm listening to Internet radio about 6-7 hours of my work day. I guess I'm a part of that 1% that needs more than 2GB? I call shenanigans. Also, any of you know that if I'm using Wi-Fi does that somehow count as my usage? I wouldn't think it does, but you never know.
I don't believe so. I think you just get charged for using 3G.
Yeah, and if you're streaming all day at work, you're either using the 3G or still violating office policy if using the wifi.
Googling led me to this:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2010/06/pandora-iphone.html
QuotePop & Hiss conducted a test run of an hour of continuous music streaming on the default sound-quality setting with Pandora on the iPhone. (Flipping on high-quality streaming doesn't make a huge difference in bandwidth consumption.) It weighed in at just under 16 megabytes.
In other words, you'd need to stream about 4 hours on Pandora every day to hit the 2-gig monthly limit.
1.4 GB in two weeks works out to just over 100 MB per day, or 140 MB per work day. Used for nothing else but Pandora, that would be around 6.5 hours per day over 14 days and 9 hours per day over 10 days, according to the LA Times' test.
Then, of course, you have to consider other stuff you use the 3G for. Googling tells me the average Youtube video is 10 MB per minute (so a minute of Youtube is equivalent to 30-40 minutes on Pandora).
It also doesn't help that when July 1 rolled around I had only had the phone for about a week and I have still been downloading apps quite a bit. That's slowed down a little, but there have been a couple that were over 200 MB apparently since I had to use WiFi to download them. Maybe my usage will normalize in August, but it definitely seems like BH was right in the "The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion. " assessment.
Quote from: Yeti on July 15, 2010, 10:49:06 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 15, 2010, 10:39:54 AM
Quote from: R-V on July 15, 2010, 09:02:10 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 15, 2010, 08:32:21 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 08:33:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
It's boneriffic. That is all.
ATT has started their limited data plans right? The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion.
How much do you actually use? My last three months of usage were 1GB each month. I am on the internet quite a bit. I was shoutboxing, listening to slacker radio 1-2 hours per day, using the GPS, emailing, and facebook stalking like a motherfucker. And still I wasn't using but half of what their $25 plan offers. They have claimed that 99% of users don't go over 2GB. I am not worried about going over because that would mean I have doubled my internet usage. That's pretty extreme. Plus, at $25/month for 2GB, you're paying $5 less a month. I was told that if I go over, it will charge me an extra $10 and I have another GB to use.. So, if I go over every other month (not likely) then I'm paying what I was paying before. I doubt this limit will hamper most people.
Also, if you have the unlimited iPhone internet now, if you switch to the new iPhone, then they will let you keep it. The stipulation is that if you do switch to the 2GB one, you can't go back.
So, I got a text message from AT&T last night stating that I had used 65% of my internet usage, 14 days through the month. I checked online and it said I've used 1.4GB of the 2.048GB.. My usage has changed in that I'm listening to Internet radio about 6-7 hours of my work day. I guess I'm a part of that 1% that needs more than 2GB? I call shenanigans. Also, any of you know that if I'm using Wi-Fi does that somehow count as my usage? I wouldn't think it does, but you never know.
I don't believe so. I think you just get charged for using 3G.
Yeah, and if you're streaming all day at work, you're either using the 3G or still violating office policy if using the wifi.
Googling led me to this:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2010/06/pandora-iphone.html
QuotePop & Hiss conducted a test run of an hour of continuous music streaming on the default sound-quality setting with Pandora on the iPhone. (Flipping on high-quality streaming doesn't make a huge difference in bandwidth consumption.) It weighed in at just under 16 megabytes.
In other words, you'd need to stream about 4 hours on Pandora every day to hit the 2-gig monthly limit.
1.4 GB in two weeks works out to just over 100 MB per day, or 140 MB per work day. Used for nothing else but Pandora, that would be around 6.5 hours per day over 14 days and 9 hours per day over 10 days, according to the LA Times' test.
Then, of course, you have to consider other stuff you use the 3G for. Googling tells me the average Youtube video is 10 MB per minute (so a minute of Youtube is equivalent to 30-40 minutes on Pandora).
It also doesn't help that when July 1 rolled around I had only had the phone for about a week and I have still been downloading apps quite a bit. That's slowed down a little, but there have been a couple that were over 200 MB apparently since I had to use WiFi to download them. Maybe my usage will normalize in August, but it definitely seems like BH was right in the "The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion. " assessment.
You can't own bandwidth, man.
Quote from: PenPho on July 15, 2010, 11:07:50 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 15, 2010, 10:49:06 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 15, 2010, 10:39:54 AM
Quote from: R-V on July 15, 2010, 09:02:10 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 15, 2010, 08:32:21 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 08:33:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
It's boneriffic. That is all.
ATT has started their limited data plans right? The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion.
How much do you actually use? My last three months of usage were 1GB each month. I am on the internet quite a bit. I was shoutboxing, listening to slacker radio 1-2 hours per day, using the GPS, emailing, and facebook stalking like a motherfucker. And still I wasn't using but half of what their $25 plan offers. They have claimed that 99% of users don't go over 2GB. I am not worried about going over because that would mean I have doubled my internet usage. That's pretty extreme. Plus, at $25/month for 2GB, you're paying $5 less a month. I was told that if I go over, it will charge me an extra $10 and I have another GB to use.. So, if I go over every other month (not likely) then I'm paying what I was paying before. I doubt this limit will hamper most people.
Also, if you have the unlimited iPhone internet now, if you switch to the new iPhone, then they will let you keep it. The stipulation is that if you do switch to the 2GB one, you can't go back.
So, I got a text message from AT&T last night stating that I had used 65% of my internet usage, 14 days through the month. I checked online and it said I've used 1.4GB of the 2.048GB.. My usage has changed in that I'm listening to Internet radio about 6-7 hours of my work day. I guess I'm a part of that 1% that needs more than 2GB? I call shenanigans. Also, any of you know that if I'm using Wi-Fi does that somehow count as my usage? I wouldn't think it does, but you never know.
I don't believe so. I think you just get charged for using 3G.
Yeah, and if you're streaming all day at work, you're either using the 3G or still violating office policy if using the wifi.
Googling led me to this:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2010/06/pandora-iphone.html
QuotePop & Hiss conducted a test run of an hour of continuous music streaming on the default sound-quality setting with Pandora on the iPhone. (Flipping on high-quality streaming doesn't make a huge difference in bandwidth consumption.) It weighed in at just under 16 megabytes.
In other words, you'd need to stream about 4 hours on Pandora every day to hit the 2-gig monthly limit.
1.4 GB in two weeks works out to just over 100 MB per day, or 140 MB per work day. Used for nothing else but Pandora, that would be around 6.5 hours per day over 14 days and 9 hours per day over 10 days, according to the LA Times' test.
Then, of course, you have to consider other stuff you use the 3G for. Googling tells me the average Youtube video is 10 MB per minute (so a minute of Youtube is equivalent to 30-40 minutes on Pandora).
It also doesn't help that when July 1 rolled around I had only had the phone for about a week and I have still been downloading apps quite a bit. That's slowed down a little, but there have been a couple that were over 200 MB apparently since I had to use WiFi to download them. Maybe my usage will normalize in August, but it definitely seems like BH was right in the "The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion. " assessment.
You can't own bandwidth, man.
True, but they can sure as hell skullfuck my wallet for it.
By the way, I don't stream much and I've got most of the apps I want/need, and I barely use a tenth of the 2gb, apparently. Even though I use the internet on my phone all the time.
Quote from: Yeti on July 15, 2010, 11:11:22 AM
Quote from: PenPho on July 15, 2010, 11:07:50 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 15, 2010, 10:49:06 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 15, 2010, 10:39:54 AM
Quote from: R-V on July 15, 2010, 09:02:10 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 15, 2010, 08:32:21 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 08:33:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
It's boneriffic. That is all.
ATT has started their limited data plans right? The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion.
How much do you actually use? My last three months of usage were 1GB each month. I am on the internet quite a bit. I was shoutboxing, listening to slacker radio 1-2 hours per day, using the GPS, emailing, and facebook stalking like a motherfucker. And still I wasn't using but half of what their $25 plan offers. They have claimed that 99% of users don't go over 2GB. I am not worried about going over because that would mean I have doubled my internet usage. That's pretty extreme. Plus, at $25/month for 2GB, you're paying $5 less a month. I was told that if I go over, it will charge me an extra $10 and I have another GB to use.. So, if I go over every other month (not likely) then I'm paying what I was paying before. I doubt this limit will hamper most people.
Also, if you have the unlimited iPhone internet now, if you switch to the new iPhone, then they will let you keep it. The stipulation is that if you do switch to the 2GB one, you can't go back.
So, I got a text message from AT&T last night stating that I had used 65% of my internet usage, 14 days through the month. I checked online and it said I've used 1.4GB of the 2.048GB.. My usage has changed in that I'm listening to Internet radio about 6-7 hours of my work day. I guess I'm a part of that 1% that needs more than 2GB? I call shenanigans. Also, any of you know that if I'm using Wi-Fi does that somehow count as my usage? I wouldn't think it does, but you never know.
I don't believe so. I think you just get charged for using 3G.
Yeah, and if you're streaming all day at work, you're either using the 3G or still violating office policy if using the wifi.
Googling led me to this:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2010/06/pandora-iphone.html
QuotePop & Hiss conducted a test run of an hour of continuous music streaming on the default sound-quality setting with Pandora on the iPhone. (Flipping on high-quality streaming doesn't make a huge difference in bandwidth consumption.) It weighed in at just under 16 megabytes.
In other words, you'd need to stream about 4 hours on Pandora every day to hit the 2-gig monthly limit.
1.4 GB in two weeks works out to just over 100 MB per day, or 140 MB per work day. Used for nothing else but Pandora, that would be around 6.5 hours per day over 14 days and 9 hours per day over 10 days, according to the LA Times' test.
Then, of course, you have to consider other stuff you use the 3G for. Googling tells me the average Youtube video is 10 MB per minute (so a minute of Youtube is equivalent to 30-40 minutes on Pandora).
It also doesn't help that when July 1 rolled around I had only had the phone for about a week and I have still been downloading apps quite a bit. That's slowed down a little, but there have been a couple that were over 200 MB apparently since I had to use WiFi to download them. Maybe my usage will normalize in August, but it definitely seems like BH was right in the "The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion. " assessment.
You can't own bandwidth, man.
True, but they can sure as hell skullfuck my wallet for it.
I didn't think it was possible, but AT&T both sucks and blows.
Quote from: PenPho on July 15, 2010, 11:07:50 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 15, 2010, 10:49:06 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 15, 2010, 10:39:54 AM
Quote from: R-V on July 15, 2010, 09:02:10 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 15, 2010, 08:32:21 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 08:33:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
It's boneriffic. That is all.
ATT has started their limited data plans right? The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion.
How much do you actually use? My last three months of usage were 1GB each month. I am on the internet quite a bit. I was shoutboxing, listening to slacker radio 1-2 hours per day, using the GPS, emailing, and facebook stalking like a motherfucker. And still I wasn't using but half of what their $25 plan offers. They have claimed that 99% of users don't go over 2GB. I am not worried about going over because that would mean I have doubled my internet usage. That's pretty extreme. Plus, at $25/month for 2GB, you're paying $5 less a month. I was told that if I go over, it will charge me an extra $10 and I have another GB to use.. So, if I go over every other month (not likely) then I'm paying what I was paying before. I doubt this limit will hamper most people.
Also, if you have the unlimited iPhone internet now, if you switch to the new iPhone, then they will let you keep it. The stipulation is that if you do switch to the 2GB one, you can't go back.
So, I got a text message from AT&T last night stating that I had used 65% of my internet usage, 14 days through the month. I checked online and it said I've used 1.4GB of the 2.048GB.. My usage has changed in that I'm listening to Internet radio about 6-7 hours of my work day. I guess I'm a part of that 1% that needs more than 2GB? I call shenanigans. Also, any of you know that if I'm using Wi-Fi does that somehow count as my usage? I wouldn't think it does, but you never know.
I don't believe so. I think you just get charged for using 3G.
Yeah, and if you're streaming all day at work, you're either using the 3G or still violating office policy if using the wifi.
Googling led me to this:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2010/06/pandora-iphone.html
QuotePop & Hiss conducted a test run of an hour of continuous music streaming on the default sound-quality setting with Pandora on the iPhone. (Flipping on high-quality streaming doesn't make a huge difference in bandwidth consumption.) It weighed in at just under 16 megabytes.
In other words, you'd need to stream about 4 hours on Pandora every day to hit the 2-gig monthly limit.
1.4 GB in two weeks works out to just over 100 MB per day, or 140 MB per work day. Used for nothing else but Pandora, that would be around 6.5 hours per day over 14 days and 9 hours per day over 10 days, according to the LA Times' test.
Then, of course, you have to consider other stuff you use the 3G for. Googling tells me the average Youtube video is 10 MB per minute (so a minute of Youtube is equivalent to 30-40 minutes on Pandora).
It also doesn't help that when July 1 rolled around I had only had the phone for about a week and I have still been downloading apps quite a bit. That's slowed down a little, but there have been a couple that were over 200 MB apparently since I had to use WiFi to download them. Maybe my usage will normalize in August, but it definitely seems like BH was right in the "The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion. " assessment.
You can't own bandwidth, man.
I can. But that's because I'm not a penniless Yeti.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on July 15, 2010, 11:46:11 AM
Quote from: PenPho on July 15, 2010, 11:07:50 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 15, 2010, 10:49:06 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 15, 2010, 10:39:54 AM
Quote from: R-V on July 15, 2010, 09:02:10 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 15, 2010, 08:32:21 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 08:33:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
It's boneriffic. That is all.
ATT has started their limited data plans right? The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion.
How much do you actually use? My last three months of usage were 1GB each month. I am on the internet quite a bit. I was shoutboxing, listening to slacker radio 1-2 hours per day, using the GPS, emailing, and facebook stalking like a motherfucker. And still I wasn't using but half of what their $25 plan offers. They have claimed that 99% of users don't go over 2GB. I am not worried about going over because that would mean I have doubled my internet usage. That's pretty extreme. Plus, at $25/month for 2GB, you're paying $5 less a month. I was told that if I go over, it will charge me an extra $10 and I have another GB to use.. So, if I go over every other month (not likely) then I'm paying what I was paying before. I doubt this limit will hamper most people.
Also, if you have the unlimited iPhone internet now, if you switch to the new iPhone, then they will let you keep it. The stipulation is that if you do switch to the 2GB one, you can't go back.
So, I got a text message from AT&T last night stating that I had used 65% of my internet usage, 14 days through the month. I checked online and it said I've used 1.4GB of the 2.048GB.. My usage has changed in that I'm listening to Internet radio about 6-7 hours of my work day. I guess I'm a part of that 1% that needs more than 2GB? I call shenanigans. Also, any of you know that if I'm using Wi-Fi does that somehow count as my usage? I wouldn't think it does, but you never know.
I don't believe so. I think you just get charged for using 3G.
Yeah, and if you're streaming all day at work, you're either using the 3G or still violating office policy if using the wifi.
Googling led me to this:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2010/06/pandora-iphone.html
QuotePop & Hiss conducted a test run of an hour of continuous music streaming on the default sound-quality setting with Pandora on the iPhone. (Flipping on high-quality streaming doesn't make a huge difference in bandwidth consumption.) It weighed in at just under 16 megabytes.
In other words, you'd need to stream about 4 hours on Pandora every day to hit the 2-gig monthly limit.
1.4 GB in two weeks works out to just over 100 MB per day, or 140 MB per work day. Used for nothing else but Pandora, that would be around 6.5 hours per day over 14 days and 9 hours per day over 10 days, according to the LA Times' test.
Then, of course, you have to consider other stuff you use the 3G for. Googling tells me the average Youtube video is 10 MB per minute (so a minute of Youtube is equivalent to 30-40 minutes on Pandora).
It also doesn't help that when July 1 rolled around I had only had the phone for about a week and I have still been downloading apps quite a bit. That's slowed down a little, but there have been a couple that were over 200 MB apparently since I had to use WiFi to download them. Maybe my usage will normalize in August, but it definitely seems like BH was right in the "The iphone, without unlimited data, is missing the point in my opinion. " assessment.
You can't own bandwidth, man.
I can. But that's because I'm not a penniless Yeti.
Intrepid Reader CT: [Snorts and pounds fist on table.]
Quote from: Bort on July 15, 2010, 11:16:01 AM
By the way, I don't stream much and I've got most of the apps I want/need, and I barely use a tenth of the 2gb, apparently. Even though I use the internet on my phone all the time.
Ordinary web pages are, of course, a different story. To reach 2 GB in 30 days, Yeti would have to load (fresh, not from the phone's cache) the British Muscle Bear homepage every 10 minutes 24 hours a day for the whole month.
Or he could hard reload the lightweight mobile version of his Wikipedia article on autofellatio every 50 seconds.
Even the shoutbox, which checks for updates every 6 seconds or so when it hasn't fallen asleep, only pulls down something in the neighborhood of 100-200 KB per hour. Meaning he'd need to keep something like 15-25 separate shoutboxes active and running 24-7 for 30 days.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 15, 2010, 11:53:14 AM
Quote from: Bort on July 15, 2010, 11:16:01 AM
By the way, I don't stream much and I've got most of the apps I want/need, and I barely use a tenth of the 2gb, apparently. Even though I use the internet on my phone all the time.
Ordinary web pages are, of course, a different story. To reach 2 GB in 30 days, Yeti would have to load (fresh, not from the phone's cache) the British Muscle Bear homepage every 10 minutes 24 hours a day for the whole month.
Or he could hard reload the lightweight mobile version of his Wikipedia article on autofellatio every 50 seconds.
Even the shoutbox, which checks for updates every 6 seconds or so when it hasn't fallen asleep, only pulls down something in the neighborhood of 100-200 KB per hour. Meaning he'd need to keep something like 15-25 separate shoutboxes active and running 24-7 for 30 days.
MEATSPIN.COM!!!
Quote from: Yeti on July 15, 2010, 11:59:50 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 15, 2010, 11:53:14 AM
Quote from: Bort on July 15, 2010, 11:16:01 AM
By the way, I don't stream much and I've got most of the apps I want/need, and I barely use a tenth of the 2gb, apparently. Even though I use the internet on my phone all the time.
Ordinary web pages are, of course, a different story. To reach 2 GB in 30 days, Yeti would have to load (fresh, not from the phone's cache) the British Muscle Bear homepage every 10 minutes 24 hours a day for the whole month.
Or he could hard reload the lightweight mobile version of his Wikipedia article on autofellatio every 50 seconds.
Even the shoutbox, which checks for updates every 6 seconds or so when it hasn't fallen asleep, only pulls down something in the neighborhood of 100-200 KB per hour. Meaning he'd need to keep something like 15-25 separate shoutboxes active and running 24-7 for 30 days.
MEATSPIN.COM!!!
Less than 500 KB. That's smaller than the BMB homepage.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 15, 2010, 12:03:18 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 15, 2010, 11:59:50 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 15, 2010, 11:53:14 AM
Quote from: Bort on July 15, 2010, 11:16:01 AM
By the way, I don't stream much and I've got most of the apps I want/need, and I barely use a tenth of the 2gb, apparently. Even though I use the internet on my phone all the time.
Ordinary web pages are, of course, a different story. To reach 2 GB in 30 days, Yeti would have to load (fresh, not from the phone's cache) the British Muscle Bear homepage every 10 minutes 24 hours a day for the whole month.
Or he could hard reload the lightweight mobile version of his Wikipedia article on autofellatio every 50 seconds.
Even the shoutbox, which checks for updates every 6 seconds or so when it hasn't fallen asleep, only pulls down something in the neighborhood of 100-200 KB per hour. Meaning he'd need to keep something like 15-25 separate shoutboxes active and running 24-7 for 30 days.
MEATSPIN.COM!!!
Less than 500 KB. That's smaller than the BMB homepage.
even the new, improved one?
I guess Steve Jobs is pretty evil after all...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn-YesqzvNk
Quote第四代iPhone出包賈伯斯忙滅火
蘋果創辦人賈伯斯最近因為新產品iPhone4頻頻出包得常常出面為產品背書。
FREE BUMPERS FOR ALL (http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/16/loosening-the-iphone-death-grip/)
QuoteApple will offer you some options if you are not satisfied with your iPhone 4:
* A free Apple bumper, or a free carrying case from some other company. You will be able to order one from Apple's Web page later this week. (If you have already bought an Apple bumper, you get a refund for it. No refund if you bought another company's case, however.) This whole thing could be another tricky spot, because Mr. Jobs acknowledged that there were not nearly enough bumpers to go around, and there were not very many non-Apple cases available yet, either.
* A full refund for the phone within 30 days of the day you buy it (or bought it — so if you bought it the day iPhone 4's went on sale, you have eight days left to return it). No restocking fee, no early-termination charges.
I bought a case last week but I'll take a free bumper if they're going to give it to me, but I'm sure it will be September/October before I get it.
Quote from: Yeti on July 19, 2010, 09:35:24 AM
FREE BUMPERS FOR ALL (http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/16/loosening-the-iphone-death-grip/)
QuoteApple will offer you some options if you are not satisfied with your iPhone 4:
* A free Apple bumper, or a free carrying case from some other company. You will be able to order one from Apple's Web page later this week. (If you have already bought an Apple bumper, you get a refund for it. No refund if you bought another company's case, however.) This whole thing could be another tricky spot, because Mr. Jobs acknowledged that there were not nearly enough bumpers to go around, and there were not very many non-Apple cases available yet, either.
* A full refund for the phone within 30 days of the day you buy it (or bought it — so if you bought it the day iPhone 4's went on sale, you have eight days left to return it). No restocking fee, no early-termination charges.
I bought a case last week but I'll take a free bumper if they're going to give it to me, but I'm sure it will be September/October before I get it.
I loved the software update to stop showing the reception is bad. Fixed.
I installed iOS4 on my 3G iphone, big mistake. Everything lags now.
Quote from: BH on July 19, 2010, 09:54:53 AM
I installed iOS4 on my 3G iphone, big mistake. Everything lags now.
I'm in the same boat. It's more or less rendered my email useless.
Quote from: Bort on July 19, 2010, 09:57:38 AM
Quote from: BH on July 19, 2010, 09:54:53 AM
I installed iOS4 on my 3G iphone, big mistake. Everything lags now.
I'm in the same boat. It's more or less rendered my email useless.
A friend of mine's only complaint about iOS4 was that it drained the ever loving shit out of his battery. Didn't hear about lag issues.
Quote from: Yeti on July 19, 2010, 10:05:39 AM
Quote from: Bort on July 19, 2010, 09:57:38 AM
Quote from: BH on July 19, 2010, 09:54:53 AM
I installed iOS4 on my 3G iphone, big mistake. Everything lags now.
I'm in the same boat. It's more or less rendered my email useless.
A friend of mine's only complaint about iOS4 was that it drained the ever loving shit out of his battery. Didn't hear about lag issues.
I have both - email is painful and the battery life is a joke.
Quote from: Bort on July 19, 2010, 09:57:38 AM
Quote from: BH on July 19, 2010, 09:54:53 AM
I installed iOS4 on my 3G iphone, big mistake. Everything lags now.
I'm in the same boat. It's more or less rendered my email useless.
Double this. Apps randomly quit and there's major lag on even simple tasks. Someone recommended restoring the phone to the last OS, but I'm wary of doing that.
Quote from: Eli on July 19, 2010, 10:21:41 AM
Quote from: Bort on July 19, 2010, 09:57:38 AM
Quote from: BH on July 19, 2010, 09:54:53 AM
I installed iOS4 on my 3G iphone, big mistake. Everything lags now.
I'm in the same boat. It's more or less rendered my email useless.
Double this. Apps randomly quit and there's major lag on even simple tasks. Someone recommended restoring the phone to the last OS, but I'm wary of doing that.
HTC Evo, up in this bitch.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on July 19, 2010, 10:42:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 19, 2010, 10:21:41 AM
Quote from: Bort on July 19, 2010, 09:57:38 AM
Quote from: BH on July 19, 2010, 09:54:53 AM
I installed iOS4 on my 3G iphone, big mistake. Everything lags now.
I'm in the same boat. It's more or less rendered my email useless.
Double this. Apps randomly quit and there's major lag on even simple tasks. Someone recommended restoring the phone to the last OS, but I'm wary of doing that.
HTC Evo, up in this bitch.
Isn't the battery life on the Evo about 15 minutes of talk time?
Quote from: Eli on July 19, 2010, 10:50:20 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on July 19, 2010, 10:42:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 19, 2010, 10:21:41 AM
Quote from: Bort on July 19, 2010, 09:57:38 AM
Quote from: BH on July 19, 2010, 09:54:53 AM
I installed iOS4 on my 3G iphone, big mistake. Everything lags now.
I'm in the same boat. It's more or less rendered my email useless.
Double this. Apps randomly quit and there's major lag on even simple tasks. Someone recommended restoring the phone to the last OS, but I'm wary of doing that.
HTC Evo, up in this bitch.
Isn't the battery life on the Evo about 15 minutes of talk time?
Yes. But it's a REALLY SOLID 15 minutes.
Just man up and buy a Blackberry. Stop being tween girls.
Quote from: Ivy6 on July 19, 2010, 11:10:05 AM
Just man up and buy a Blackberry. Stop being tween girls.
Mine had all sorts of software issues. I couldn't create a new text messaging thread without sending 2 duplicate texts to the same person. It would "freeze" every once in a while for about 5-10 seconds. Very annoying. That said, if AT&T had the BlackBerry touch phone I would have considered it.
Quote from: Eli on July 19, 2010, 10:50:20 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on July 19, 2010, 10:42:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 19, 2010, 10:21:41 AM
Quote from: Bort on July 19, 2010, 09:57:38 AM
Quote from: BH on July 19, 2010, 09:54:53 AM
I installed iOS4 on my 3G iphone, big mistake. Everything lags now.
I'm in the same boat. It's more or less rendered my email useless.
Double this. Apps randomly quit and there's major lag on even simple tasks. Someone recommended restoring the phone to the last OS, but I'm wary of doing that.
HTC Evo, up in this bitch.
Isn't the battery life on the Evo about 15 minutes of talk time?
No.
Quote from: BH on July 19, 2010, 09:54:53 AM
Quote from: Yeti on July 19, 2010, 09:35:24 AM
FREE BUMPERS FOR ALL (http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/16/loosening-the-iphone-death-grip/)
QuoteApple will offer you some options if you are not satisfied with your iPhone 4:
* A free Apple bumper, or a free carrying case from some other company. You will be able to order one from Apple's Web page later this week. (If you have already bought an Apple bumper, you get a refund for it. No refund if you bought another company's case, however.) This whole thing could be another tricky spot, because Mr. Jobs acknowledged that there were not nearly enough bumpers to go around, and there were not very many non-Apple cases available yet, either.
* A full refund for the phone within 30 days of the day you buy it (or bought it — so if you bought it the day iPhone 4's went on sale, you have eight days left to return it). No restocking fee, no early-termination charges.
I bought a case last week but I'll take a free bumper if they're going to give it to me, but I'm sure it will be September/October before I get it.
I loved the software update to stop showing the reception is bad. Fixed.
I installed iOS4 on my 3G iphone, big mistake. Everything lags now.
Try holding the home button and on/off switch for 10 seconds to force a full reboot. It won't touch your data, but it will rebuild part of the OS. It helped my 2nd-gen iPod touch and I've read it works even better for the 3GS.
The OS X 10.4.11 Calculator application, v. 4.0.6, just informed me that 19.12 times 23 is 439.760000000000048.
Quote from: Wheezer on July 22, 2010, 03:28:02 PM
The OS X 10.4.11 Calculator application, v. 4.0.6, just informed me that 19.12 times 23 is 439.760000000000048.
Mac OS X 10.6.4 Calculator, version 4.5.3, says it's 439.76. I can't believe you missed the "new and improved calculator app!" advertising blitz for Snow Leopard.
Got the iPhone 4 yesterday. Other than an inability to play casette tapes, its great. Feels great, works great, fast, good call clarity, and the calculator works (and it turns into a scientific calculator if you turn it sideways).
Quote from: thehawk on July 22, 2010, 05:09:04 PM
Got the iPhone 4 yesterday. Other than an inability to play casette tapes, its great. Feels great, works great, fast, good call clarity, and the calculator works (and it turns into a scientific calculator if you turn it sideways).
For some reason, this post reminds me of the time Mike Royko got a $20 calculator watch.
Quote from: Oleg on July 22, 2010, 05:16:32 PM
Quote from: thehawk on July 22, 2010, 05:09:04 PM
Got the iPhone 4 yesterday. Other than an inability to play casette tapes, its great. Feels great, works great, fast, good call clarity, and the calculator works (and it turns into a scientific calculator if you turn it sideways).
For some reason, this post reminds me of the time Mike Royko got a $20 calculator watch.
"It's Time Somebody Gets Ticked Off"
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=348&dat=19861229&id=VmMjAAAAIBAJ&sjid=LDYDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3739,402633
http://kensegall.com/blog/2010/07/the-ever-arrogant-apple/
Anyone have issues with WiFi? My connection seems to be intermittent. It will work for a second, and then drop, and then kick back up. I use the default settings (which is DHCP, I believe). I don't believe it's a problem with my network, as my computer and secksbox retains connections. I also had this same issue at the fair connecting to their free WiFi.
Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 03:15:03 PM
Anyone have issues with WiFi? My connection seems to be intermittent. It will work for a second, and then drop, and then kick back up. I use the default settings (which is DHCP, I believe). I don't believe it's a problem with my network, as my computer and secksbox retains connections. I also had this same issue at the fair connecting to their free WiFi.
I previously had terrible problems with my internet connection, including the high-speed cable modem that I had from AT&T and Comcast respectively. I purchased a new, top-end router and the internet is working better than ever. While I don't know the cause of your issue, this might be something to consider.
I'm probably wrong though.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 16, 2010, 04:06:52 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 03:15:03 PM
Anyone have issues with WiFi? My connection seems to be intermittent. It will work for a second, and then drop, and then kick back up. I use the default settings (which is DHCP, I believe). I don't believe it's a problem with my network, as my computer and secksbox retains connections. I also had this same issue at the fair connecting to their free WiFi.
I previously had terrible problems with my internet connection, including the high-speed cable modem that I had from AT&T and Comcast respectively. I purchased a new, top-end router and the internet is working better than ever. While I don't know the cause of your issue, this might be something to consider.
I'm probably wrong though.
I suppose I could try that. I noticed that the range of my router doesn't reach all the way to the end of my backyard, so I contemplated getting one with a better range so I can have my phone (if the connection were to hold up) connected to a high-quality connection that far away.
Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 04:50:42 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 16, 2010, 04:06:52 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 03:15:03 PM
Anyone have issues with WiFi? My connection seems to be intermittent. It will work for a second, and then drop, and then kick back up. I use the default settings (which is DHCP, I believe). I don't believe it's a problem with my network, as my computer and secksbox retains connections. I also had this same issue at the fair connecting to their free WiFi.
I previously had terrible problems with my internet connection, including the high-speed cable modem that I had from AT&T and Comcast respectively. I purchased a new, top-end router and the internet is working better than ever. While I don't know the cause of your issue, this might be something to consider.
I'm probably wrong though.
I suppose I could try that. I noticed that the range of my router doesn't reach all the way to the end of my backyard, so I contemplated getting one with a better range so I can have my phone (if the connection were to hold up) connected to a high-quality connection that far away.
This discussion intrigues me. I have a lot of trouble with my wireless (linksys router/AT&T/speedstream modem) in that it drops for a second and then comes back. It's extremely frustrating for Netflix on demand, as I have to restart the process. Problem is, AT&T says its a router problem, and Linksys says its a DSL issue. I'm wondering if it is time to get a new router and/or modem (the modem is almost six years old and the router is probably around four or five).
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Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 04:50:42 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 16, 2010, 04:06:52 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 03:15:03 PM
Anyone have issues with WiFi? My connection seems to be intermittent. It will work for a second, and then drop, and then kick back up. I use the default settings (which is DHCP, I believe). I don't believe it's a problem with my network, as my computer and secksbox retains connections. I also had this same issue at the fair connecting to their free WiFi.
I previously had terrible problems with my internet connection, including the high-speed cable modem that I had from AT&T and Comcast respectively. I purchased a new, top-end router and the internet is working better than ever. While I don't know the cause of your issue, this might be something to consider.
I'm probably wrong though.
I suppose I could try that. I noticed that the range of my router doesn't reach all the way to the end of my backyard, so I contemplated getting one with a better range so I can have my phone (if the connection were to hold up) connected to a high-quality connection that far away.
This discussion intrigues me. I have a lot of trouble with my wireless (linksys router/AT&T/speedstream modem) in that it drops for a second and then comes back. It's extremely frustrating for Netflix on demand, as I have to restart the process. Problem is, AT&T says its a router problem, and Linksys says its a DSL issue. I'm wondering if it is time to get a new router and/or modem (the modem is almost six years old and the router is probably around four or five).
Have you considered the fact that DSL sucks balls unless you live next door your ISP?
Quote from: PenPho on August 16, 2010, 04:57:17 PM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on August 16, 2010, 04:54:41 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 04:50:42 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 16, 2010, 04:06:52 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 03:15:03 PM
Anyone have issues with WiFi? My connection seems to be intermittent. It will work for a second, and then drop, and then kick back up. I use the default settings (which is DHCP, I believe). I don't believe it's a problem with my network, as my computer and secksbox retains connections. I also had this same issue at the fair connecting to their free WiFi.
I previously had terrible problems with my internet connection, including the high-speed cable modem that I had from AT&T and Comcast respectively. I purchased a new, top-end router and the internet is working better than ever. While I don't know the cause of your issue, this might be something to consider.
I'm probably wrong though.
I suppose I could try that. I noticed that the range of my router doesn't reach all the way to the end of my backyard, so I contemplated getting one with a better range so I can have my phone (if the connection were to hold up) connected to a high-quality connection that far away.
This discussion intrigues me. I have a lot of trouble with my wireless (linksys router/AT&T/speedstream modem) in that it drops for a second and then comes back. It's extremely frustrating for Netflix on demand, as I have to restart the process. Problem is, AT&T says its a router problem, and Linksys says its a DSL issue. I'm wondering if it is time to get a new router and/or modem (the modem is almost six years old and the router is probably around four or five).
Have you considered the fact that DSL sucks balls unless you live next door your ISP?
Pen uses that free-range organic internet.
Quote from: SKO on August 16, 2010, 05:01:10 PM
Quote from: PenPho on August 16, 2010, 04:57:17 PM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on August 16, 2010, 04:54:41 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 04:50:42 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 16, 2010, 04:06:52 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 03:15:03 PM
Anyone have issues with WiFi? My connection seems to be intermittent. It will work for a second, and then drop, and then kick back up. I use the default settings (which is DHCP, I believe). I don't believe it's a problem with my network, as my computer and secksbox retains connections. I also had this same issue at the fair connecting to their free WiFi.
I previously had terrible problems with my internet connection, including the high-speed cable modem that I had from AT&T and Comcast respectively. I purchased a new, top-end router and the internet is working better than ever. While I don't know the cause of your issue, this might be something to consider.
I'm probably wrong though.
I suppose I could try that. I noticed that the range of my router doesn't reach all the way to the end of my backyard, so I contemplated getting one with a better range so I can have my phone (if the connection were to hold up) connected to a high-quality connection that far away.
This discussion intrigues me. I have a lot of trouble with my wireless (linksys router/AT&T/speedstream modem) in that it drops for a second and then comes back. It's extremely frustrating for Netflix on demand, as I have to restart the process. Problem is, AT&T says its a router problem, and Linksys says its a DSL issue. I'm wondering if it is time to get a new router and/or modem (the modem is almost six years old and the router is probably around four or five).
Have you considered the fact that DSL sucks balls unless you live next door your ISP?
Pen uses that free-range organic internet.
No, Pen is a shill for the Cable company.
Quote from: Indolent Reader on August 16, 2010, 04:54:41 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 04:50:42 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 16, 2010, 04:06:52 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 03:15:03 PM
Anyone have issues with WiFi? My connection seems to be intermittent. It will work for a second, and then drop, and then kick back up. I use the default settings (which is DHCP, I believe). I don't believe it's a problem with my network, as my computer and secksbox retains connections. I also had this same issue at the fair connecting to their free WiFi.
I previously had terrible problems with my internet connection, including the high-speed cable modem that I had from AT&T and Comcast respectively. I purchased a new, top-end router and the internet is working better than ever. While I don't know the cause of your issue, this might be something to consider.
I'm probably wrong though.
I suppose I could try that. I noticed that the range of my router doesn't reach all the way to the end of my backyard, so I contemplated getting one with a better range so I can have my phone (if the connection were to hold up) connected to a high-quality connection that far away.
This discussion intrigues me. I have a lot of trouble with my wireless (linksys router/AT&T/speedstream modem) in that it drops for a second and then comes back. It's extremely frustrating for Netflix on demand, as I have to restart the process. Problem is, AT&T says its a router problem, and Linksys says its a DSL issue. I'm wondering if it is time to get a new router and/or modem (the modem is almost six years old and the router is probably around four or five).
Replacing the equipment seems like a decent idea. How do you get the DSL connection? I am sure it won't be like this, but when I was at my parents house, we had wireless DSL where a tower piped it in to an antennae on top of the house. That created some of the issues when it got a little off track. However, my mom bought a new router after I moved out and hasn't had too many issues.
Quote from: PenPho on August 16, 2010, 04:57:17 PM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on August 16, 2010, 04:54:41 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 04:50:42 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 16, 2010, 04:06:52 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 03:15:03 PM
Anyone have issues with WiFi? My connection seems to be intermittent. It will work for a second, and then drop, and then kick back up. I use the default settings (which is DHCP, I believe). I don't believe it's a problem with my network, as my computer and secksbox retains connections. I also had this same issue at the fair connecting to their free WiFi.
I previously had terrible problems with my internet connection, including the high-speed cable modem that I had from AT&T and Comcast respectively. I purchased a new, top-end router and the internet is working better than ever. While I don't know the cause of your issue, this might be something to consider.
I'm probably wrong though.
I suppose I could try that. I noticed that the range of my router doesn't reach all the way to the end of my backyard, so I contemplated getting one with a better range so I can have my phone (if the connection were to hold up) connected to a high-quality connection that far away.
This discussion intrigues me. I have a lot of trouble with my wireless (linksys router/AT&T/speedstream modem) in that it drops for a second and then comes back. It's extremely frustrating for Netflix on demand, as I have to restart the process. Problem is, AT&T says its a router problem, and Linksys says its a DSL issue. I'm wondering if it is time to get a new router and/or modem (the modem is almost six years old and the router is probably around four or five).
Have you considered the fact that DSL sucks balls unless you live next door your ISP?
The whole ISP?
I know a few areas where DSL is the only thing some customers can get.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 16, 2010, 05:05:56 PM
Quote from: PenPho on August 16, 2010, 04:57:17 PM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on August 16, 2010, 04:54:41 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 04:50:42 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 16, 2010, 04:06:52 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 03:15:03 PM
Anyone have issues with WiFi? My connection seems to be intermittent. It will work for a second, and then drop, and then kick back up. I use the default settings (which is DHCP, I believe). I don't believe it's a problem with my network, as my computer and secksbox retains connections. I also had this same issue at the fair connecting to their free WiFi.
I previously had terrible problems with my internet connection, including the high-speed cable modem that I had from AT&T and Comcast respectively. I purchased a new, top-end router and the internet is working better than ever. While I don't know the cause of your issue, this might be something to consider.
I'm probably wrong though.
I suppose I could try that. I noticed that the range of my router doesn't reach all the way to the end of my backyard, so I contemplated getting one with a better range so I can have my phone (if the connection were to hold up) connected to a high-quality connection that far away.
This discussion intrigues me. I have a lot of trouble with my wireless (linksys router/AT&T/speedstream modem) in that it drops for a second and then comes back. It's extremely frustrating for Netflix on demand, as I have to restart the process. Problem is, AT&T says its a router problem, and Linksys says its a DSL issue. I'm wondering if it is time to get a new router and/or modem (the modem is almost six years old and the router is probably around four or five).
Have you considered the fact that DSL sucks balls unless you live next door your ISP?
The whole ISP?
I know a few areas where DSL is the only thing some customers can get.
I think we've already discussed how much Peoria sucks in a different thread.
Quote from: PenPho on August 16, 2010, 05:07:14 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 16, 2010, 05:05:56 PM
Quote from: PenPho on August 16, 2010, 04:57:17 PM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on August 16, 2010, 04:54:41 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 04:50:42 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 16, 2010, 04:06:52 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 03:15:03 PM
Anyone have issues with WiFi? My connection seems to be intermittent. It will work for a second, and then drop, and then kick back up. I use the default settings (which is DHCP, I believe). I don't believe it's a problem with my network, as my computer and secksbox retains connections. I also had this same issue at the fair connecting to their free WiFi.
I previously had terrible problems with my internet connection, including the high-speed cable modem that I had from AT&T and Comcast respectively. I purchased a new, top-end router and the internet is working better than ever. While I don't know the cause of your issue, this might be something to consider.
I'm probably wrong though.
I suppose I could try that. I noticed that the range of my router doesn't reach all the way to the end of my backyard, so I contemplated getting one with a better range so I can have my phone (if the connection were to hold up) connected to a high-quality connection that far away.
This discussion intrigues me. I have a lot of trouble with my wireless (linksys router/AT&T/speedstream modem) in that it drops for a second and then comes back. It's extremely frustrating for Netflix on demand, as I have to restart the process. Problem is, AT&T says its a router problem, and Linksys says its a DSL issue. I'm wondering if it is time to get a new router and/or modem (the modem is almost six years old and the router is probably around four or five).
Have you considered the fact that DSL sucks balls unless you live next door your ISP?
The whole ISP?
I know a few areas where DSL is the only thing some customers can get.
I think we've already discussed how much Peoria sucks in a different thread.
Ah, a good point, but Comcast in Peoria provides me with 12 mbps download and 6 mbps upload.
Quite lovely...
for pron.
If you're using the default settings, try changing the channel. You may have a neighbor who's using the same default channel and it's causing interference.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 16, 2010, 05:42:54 PM
Quote from: PenPho on August 16, 2010, 05:07:14 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 16, 2010, 05:05:56 PM
Quote from: PenPho on August 16, 2010, 04:57:17 PM
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Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 04:50:42 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 16, 2010, 04:06:52 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 03:15:03 PM
Anyone have issues with WiFi? My connection seems to be intermittent. It will work for a second, and then drop, and then kick back up. I use the default settings (which is DHCP, I believe). I don't believe it's a problem with my network, as my computer and secksbox retains connections. I also had this same issue at the fair connecting to their free WiFi.
I previously had terrible problems with my internet connection, including the high-speed cable modem that I had from AT&T and Comcast respectively. I purchased a new, top-end router and the internet is working better than ever. While I don't know the cause of your issue, this might be something to consider.
I'm probably wrong though.
I suppose I could try that. I noticed that the range of my router doesn't reach all the way to the end of my backyard, so I contemplated getting one with a better range so I can have my phone (if the connection were to hold up) connected to a high-quality connection that far away.
This discussion intrigues me. I have a lot of trouble with my wireless (linksys router/AT&T/speedstream modem) in that it drops for a second and then comes back. It's extremely frustrating for Netflix on demand, as I have to restart the process. Problem is, AT&T says its a router problem, and Linksys says its a DSL issue. I'm wondering if it is time to get a new router and/or modem (the modem is almost six years old and the router is probably around four or five).
Have you considered the fact that DSL sucks balls unless you live next door your ISP?
The whole ISP?
I know a few areas where DSL is the only thing some customers can get.
I think we've already discussed how much Peoria sucks in a different thread.
Ah, a good point, but Comcast in Peoria provides me with 12 mbps download and 6 mbps upload.
Quite lovely...
for pron.
No Powerboost
TM from Comcast?
They trademarked the damn term, the least they could do is offer it to you.
Quote from: PenPho on August 16, 2010, 04:57:17 PM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on August 16, 2010, 04:54:41 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 04:50:42 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 16, 2010, 04:06:52 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 03:15:03 PM
Anyone have issues with WiFi? My connection seems to be intermittent. It will work for a second, and then drop, and then kick back up. I use the default settings (which is DHCP, I believe). I don't believe it's a problem with my network, as my computer and secksbox retains connections. I also had this same issue at the fair connecting to their free WiFi.
I previously had terrible problems with my internet connection, including the high-speed cable modem that I had from AT&T and Comcast respectively. I purchased a new, top-end router and the internet is working better than ever. While I don't know the cause of your issue, this might be something to consider.
I'm probably wrong though.
I suppose I could try that. I noticed that the range of my router doesn't reach all the way to the end of my backyard, so I contemplated getting one with a better range so I can have my phone (if the connection were to hold up) connected to a high-quality connection that far away.
This discussion intrigues me. I have a lot of trouble with my wireless (linksys router/AT&T/speedstream modem) in that it drops for a second and then comes back. It's extremely frustrating for Netflix on demand, as I have to restart the process. Problem is, AT&T says its a router problem, and Linksys says its a DSL issue. I'm wondering if it is time to get a new router and/or modem (the modem is almost six years old and the router is probably around four or five).
Have you considered the fact that DSL sucks balls unless you live next door your ISP?
You should get a mirror-writing tattoo that says "consumer grade" just above your natal cleft.
Quote from: Wheezer on August 16, 2010, 08:53:18 PM
Quote from: PenPho on August 16, 2010, 04:57:17 PM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on August 16, 2010, 04:54:41 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 04:50:42 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 16, 2010, 04:06:52 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 16, 2010, 03:15:03 PM
Anyone have issues with WiFi? My connection seems to be intermittent. It will work for a second, and then drop, and then kick back up. I use the default settings (which is DHCP, I believe). I don't believe it's a problem with my network, as my computer and secksbox retains connections. I also had this same issue at the fair connecting to their free WiFi.
I previously had terrible problems with my internet connection, including the high-speed cable modem that I had from AT&T and Comcast respectively. I purchased a new, top-end router and the internet is working better than ever. While I don't know the cause of your issue, this might be something to consider.
I'm probably wrong though.
I suppose I could try that. I noticed that the range of my router doesn't reach all the way to the end of my backyard, so I contemplated getting one with a better range so I can have my phone (if the connection were to hold up) connected to a high-quality connection that far away.
This discussion intrigues me. I have a lot of trouble with my wireless (linksys router/AT&T/speedstream modem) in that it drops for a second and then comes back. It's extremely frustrating for Netflix on demand, as I have to restart the process. Problem is, AT&T says its a router problem, and Linksys says its a DSL issue. I'm wondering if it is time to get a new router and/or modem (the modem is almost six years old and the router is probably around four or five).
Have you considered the fact that DSL sucks balls unless you live next door your ISP?
You should get a mirror-writing tattoo that says "consumer grade" just above your natal cleft.
Great. Now the term "natal cleft" is connected with PenFoe in my mind.
Netflix App is available at the App Store. You can watch your instant queue items...
Unless you got screwed with that 2GB cap shit.. Fucking AT&T /rant
Quote from: Yeti on August 26, 2010, 02:19:19 PM
Netflix App is available at the App Store. You can watch your instant queue items...
Unless you got screwed with that 2GB cap shit.. Fucking AT&T /rant
Watched about 15 minutes of the J Walter Weatherman Arrested Development episode. The quality of the video is damn good. HD-good.
I haven't been in this thread at all because I didn't have any cool Apple stuff. But TPex got me the IPodTouch for my birthday. I haven't fired it up or nothing. What's up with it? Is it good? Shitty? What? It has interweb tubes so I guess I can watch Pr0n it. That's gotta go in the plus column. Right?
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 16, 2010, 06:12:43 PM
I haven't been in this thread at all because I didn't have any cool Apple stuff. But TPex got me the IPodTouch for my birthday. I haven't fired it up or nothing. What's up with it? Is it good? Shitty? What? It has interweb tubes so I guess I can watch Pr0n it. That's gotta go in the plus column. Right?
Is it the new iPod touch? The one with both the rear and forward facing cameras?
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 16, 2010, 06:55:02 PM
The one with both the rear and forward facing cameras?
Finally, Jetsons shit.
I don't know. It's cool as dick. This ought to keep me busy for the next five years.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 16, 2010, 10:49:09 PM
I don't know. It's cool as dick. This ought to keep me busy for the next five years.
The new iPod touch is essentially an iPhone without the phone. It's a great device and you should have fun with it.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 16, 2010, 11:06:49 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 16, 2010, 10:49:09 PM
I don't know. It's cool as dick. This ought to keep me busy for the next five years.
The new iPod touch is essentially an iPhone without the phone. It's a great device and you should have fun with it.
VALIDATED
http://www.businessinsider.com/best-buy-ceo-ipad-is-cannibalizing-laptop-sales-2010-9
QuoteThe CEO of Best Buy just said the iPad is cannibalizing 50% of the company's laptop sales, the Wall Street Journal reports.
When consumers walk into Best Buy now, they don't look at or want laptops, instead they're drawn to the iPad.
"People are willing to disproportionately spend for these devices because they are becoming so important to their lives," says CEO Brian Dun.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 17, 2010, 12:51:14 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/best-buy-ceo-ipad-is-cannibalizing-laptop-sales-2010-9
QuoteThe CEO of Best Buy just said the iPad is cannibalizing 50% of the company's laptop sales, the Wall Street Journal reports.
When consumers walk into Best Buy now, they don't look at or want laptops, instead they're drawn to the iPad.
"People are willing to disproportionately spend for these devices because they are becoming so important to their lives," says CEO Brian Dun.
I love it; it really is a phenomenal device. And the use of the built in keyboard is very functional. The only thing I haven't used this thing for is word processing, though I am sure that day will come.
::written on the iPad::
Ok... so suppose I were considering purchasing an iPad. Those of you that have them : is it worth ponying up the extra cash for 3G?
Quote from: morpheus on September 19, 2010, 03:00:31 PM
Ok... so suppose I were considering purchasing an iPad. Those of you that have them : is it worth ponying up the extra cash for 3G?
I vote no. But that's because most of the places I take it have wifi, so it'd be redundant. But if you are going to places that don't often have wifi coverage, I'd get it. However, I'm surmising that you'd use it around the house, so I wouldn't think you'd need it.
On a related note, I just copped one of the new Kindles. For $50, you get free lifetime 3G access with a very rough browser. I don't carry a phone, so it's nice to be able to check my email, but forget about writing anything on it. It is a damn nice reader, though.
And the angry little white girl will be back in 2011. ?
http://newsroom.mtv.com/2010/09/17/fiona-apple-new-album-2011/ (http://newsroom.mtv.com/2010/09/17/fiona-apple-new-album-2011/)
Quote from: morpheus on September 19, 2010, 03:00:31 PM
Ok... so suppose I were considering purchasing an iPad. Those of you that have them : is it worth ponying up the extra cash for 3G?
Or you could consider the Samsung Galaxy Tab (http://www.pcworld.com/article/204779/samsung_galaxy_tab_vs_the_ipad_compare_for_yourself.html). Side-by-Side Comparison (http://www.pcworld.com/zoom?id=204779&page=1&zoomIdx=1).
I'm somewhat prefer the smaller size. And I hear it will be compatible with all service providers
Quote from: Yeti on September 20, 2010, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: morpheus on September 19, 2010, 03:00:31 PM
Ok... so suppose I were considering purchasing an iPad. Those of you that have them : is it worth ponying up the extra cash for 3G?
Or you could consider the Samsung Galaxy Tab (http://www.pcworld.com/article/204779/samsung_galaxy_tab_vs_the_ipad_compare_for_yourself.html). Side-by-Side Comparison (http://www.pcworld.com/zoom?id=204779&page=1&zoomIdx=1).
I'm somewhat prefer the smaller size. And I hear it will be compatible with all service providers
I bet you do.
Quote from: morpheus on September 20, 2010, 03:31:08 PM
Quote from: Yeti on September 20, 2010, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: morpheus on September 19, 2010, 03:00:31 PM
Ok... so suppose I were considering purchasing an iPad. Those of you that have them : is it worth ponying up the extra cash for 3G?
Or you could consider the Samsung Galaxy Tab (http://www.pcworld.com/article/204779/samsung_galaxy_tab_vs_the_ipad_compare_for_yourself.html). Side-by-Side Comparison (http://www.pcworld.com/zoom?id=204779&page=1&zoomIdx=1).
I'm somewhat prefer the smaller size. And I hear it will be compatible with all service providers
I bet you do.
He does service TDubbs, so consider that.
I mean, Crabs ain't a common Huey.
I had the original shuffle. Still used it until recently. Bought the new shuffle, really cool device for $49.
The nano is even cooler, especially in person.
Quote from: Yeti on September 20, 2010, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: morpheus on September 19, 2010, 03:00:31 PM
Ok... so suppose I were considering purchasing an iPad. Those of you that have them : is it worth ponying up the extra cash for 3G?
Or you could consider the Samsung Galaxy Tab (http://www.pcworld.com/article/204779/samsung_galaxy_tab_vs_the_ipad_compare_for_yourself.html). Side-by-Side Comparison (http://www.pcworld.com/zoom?id=204779&page=1&zoomIdx=1).
I'm somewhat prefer the smaller size. And I hear it will be compatible with all service providers
The Samsung's price here has not been announced yet, but there are hints that it may cost more than the iPad if you don't buy it with a contract from a particular carrier:
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Galaxy-Tab-Pricing-Froyo-Honeycomb,news-7937.html
Again, this has been said time and time again, but this being in the WSJ might mean something: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703735804575536191649347572.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLETopStories
I just got an Apple TV. For some stupid reason, they expect me to keep my iTunes client open on another computer while it accesses my library on my NAS in the basement. If I turn off the laptop with iTunes, I can't get into the NAS or my music and videos.
Stupid? Yes. This also trumps the bullshit about being energy efficient... So stupid.
Quote from: powen01 on October 06, 2010, 06:53:48 PM
I just got an Apple TV. For some stupid reason, they expect me to keep my iTunes client open on another computer while it accesses my library on my NAS in the basement. If I turn off the laptop with iTunes, I can't get into the NAS or my music and videos.
Stupid? Yes. This also trumps the bullshit about being energy efficient... So stupid.
Have the same problem, although since my iTunes and music are only on a lap top it's less of a big deal still thinking of attaching a cheap little computer to run iTunes. Also rumors that he next iOs update will let pads and phones beam content directly to the tv
Quote from: thehawk on October 06, 2010, 07:05:37 PM
Quote from: powen01 on October 06, 2010, 06:53:48 PM
I just got an Apple TV. For some stupid reason, they expect me to keep my iTunes client open on another computer while it accesses my library on my NAS in the basement. If I turn off the laptop with iTunes, I can't get into the NAS or my music and videos.
Stupid? Yes. This also trumps the bullshit about being energy efficient... So stupid.
Have the same problem, although since my iTunes and music are only on a lap top it's less of a big deal still thinking of attaching a cheap little computer to run iTunes. Also rumors that he next iOs update will let pads and phones beam content directly to the tv
I've already "borrowed" a server from work to make this HAI. I thought they would have had the airtunes bit working already...
I'm waiting to get some apps for this thing... mlbtv anyone? You'll probably get that out of the box with the google tv. Guh.
Oh yeah: http://firecore.com/atvflash
Something to think about...
Quote from: powen01 on October 06, 2010, 06:53:48 PM
I just got an Apple TV. For some stupid reason, they expect me to keep my iTunes client open on another computer while it accesses my library on my NAS in the basement. If I turn off the laptop with iTunes, I can't get into the NAS or my music and videos.
Stupid? Yes. This also trumps the bullshit about being energy efficient... So stupid.
It has no hard drive and is a streaming device. What did you expect?
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if they fix that at some point so ATV can access the library without using iTunes. Front Row on Mac OS X used to launch iTunes in the background when started, but then they updated the app so it can access content directly through the iTunes Library database file without launching iTunes. Anyway, to sum up, they're working on it.
Quote from: Night Man on October 06, 2010, 08:18:04 PM
Quote from: powen01 on October 06, 2010, 06:53:48 PM
I just got an Apple TV. For some stupid reason, they expect me to keep my iTunes client open on another computer while it accesses my library on my NAS in the basement. If I turn off the laptop with iTunes, I can't get into the NAS or my music and videos.
Stupid? Yes. This also trumps the bullshit about being energy efficient... So stupid.
It has no hard drive and is a streaming device. What did you expect?
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if they fix that at some point so ATV can access the library without using iTunes. Front Row on Mac OS X used to launch iTunes in the background when started, but then they updated the app so it can access content directly through the iTunes Library database file without launching iTunes. Anyway, to sum up, they're working on it.
Incorrect. 8 GB's on board... I really hope they fix it; this needless lack of functionality and impairment will easily push me towards a google tv.
Quote from: powen01 on October 07, 2010, 07:31:28 AM
Quote from: Night Man on October 06, 2010, 08:18:04 PM
Quote from: powen01 on October 06, 2010, 06:53:48 PM
I just got an Apple TV. For some stupid reason, they expect me to keep my iTunes client open on another computer while it accesses my library on my NAS in the basement. If I turn off the laptop with iTunes, I can't get into the NAS or my music and videos.
Stupid? Yes. This also trumps the bullshit about being energy efficient... So stupid.
It has no hard drive and is a streaming device. What did you expect?
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if they fix that at some point so ATV can access the library without using iTunes. Front Row on Mac OS X used to launch iTunes in the background when started, but then they updated the app so it can access content directly through the iTunes Library database file without launching iTunes. Anyway, to sum up, they're working on it.
Incorrect. 8 GB's on board...
For caching purposes only.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 07, 2010, 08:33:37 AM
Quote from: powen01 on October 07, 2010, 07:31:28 AM
Quote from: Night Man on October 06, 2010, 08:18:04 PM
Quote from: powen01 on October 06, 2010, 06:53:48 PM
I just got an Apple TV. For some stupid reason, they expect me to keep my iTunes client open on another computer while it accesses my library on my NAS in the basement. If I turn off the laptop with iTunes, I can't get into the NAS or my music and videos.
Stupid? Yes. This also trumps the bullshit about being energy efficient... So stupid.
It has no hard drive and is a streaming device. What did you expect?
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if they fix that at some point so ATV can access the library without using iTunes. Front Row on Mac OS X used to launch iTunes in the background when started, but then they updated the app so it can access content directly through the iTunes Library database file without launching iTunes. Anyway, to sum up, they're working on it.
Incorrect. 8 GB's on board...
For caching purposes only.
I want the one with the bigger jee beeeeees.
If Hulu gets on board with Google, Google TV might be worth a look. But not at $300. Apple TV seems like the best device at the moment.
Quote from: BH on October 07, 2010, 10:31:03 AMIf Hulu gets on board with Google, Google TV might be worth a look. But not at $300. Apple TV seems like the best device at the moment.
How about regular TV through a cable? Seems to work OK for me.
Quote from: R-V on October 07, 2010, 10:38:51 AM
Quote from: BH on October 07, 2010, 10:31:03 AMIf Hulu gets on board with Google, Google TV might be worth a look. But not at $300. Apple TV seems like the best device at the moment.
How about regular TV through a cable? Seems to work OK for me.
Don't rip these nerds. I think this shit is interesting. My main thing would be Hulu. Watching that easily on my TV would be nice. Having a TV with that is nice. However, I hear Xbox 360 is picking up Hulu on their yearly fall update, and that will be awesome.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 07, 2010, 08:33:37 AM
Quote from: powen01 on October 07, 2010, 07:31:28 AM
Quote from: Night Man on October 06, 2010, 08:18:04 PM
Quote from: powen01 on October 06, 2010, 06:53:48 PM
I just got an Apple TV. For some stupid reason, they expect me to keep my iTunes client open on another computer while it accesses my library on my NAS in the basement. If I turn off the laptop with iTunes, I can't get into the NAS or my music and videos.
Stupid? Yes. This also trumps the bullshit about being energy efficient... So stupid.
It has no hard drive and is a streaming device. What did you expect?
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if they fix that at some point so ATV can access the library without using iTunes. Front Row on Mac OS X used to launch iTunes in the background when started, but then they updated the app so it can access content directly through the iTunes Library database file without launching iTunes. Anyway, to sum up, they're working on it.
Incorrect. 8 GB's on board...
For caching purposes only.
Do you really need all 8 GB's for caching? Seems as if the capacity could be used for more than caching... I don't think other devices use that much for caching, do they?
http://allaboutapples.com/
Quote from: CBStew on October 07, 2010, 12:00:09 PM
http://allaboutapples.com/
Allabou Tapples? Who's he?
Google Voice (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gv-connect/id347835665?mt=8) apps are back (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gv-mobile/id392608246?mt=8)
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 07, 2010, 08:33:37 AM
Quote from: powen01 on October 07, 2010, 07:31:28 AM
Quote from: Night Man on October 06, 2010, 08:18:04 PM
Quote from: powen01 on October 06, 2010, 06:53:48 PM
I just got an Apple TV. For some stupid reason, they expect me to keep my iTunes client open on another computer while it accesses my library on my NAS in the basement. If I turn off the laptop with iTunes, I can't get into the NAS or my music and videos.
Stupid? Yes. This also trumps the bullshit about being energy efficient... So stupid.
It has no hard drive for local storage and is a streaming device. What did you expect?
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if they fix that at some point so ATV can access the library without using iTunes. Front Row on Mac OS X used to launch iTunes in the background when started, but then they updated the app so it can access content directly through the iTunes Library database file without launching iTunes. Anyway, to sum up, they're working on it.
Incorrect. 8 GB's on board...
For caching purposes only.
There.
Quote from: powen01 on October 07, 2010, 10:55:08 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 07, 2010, 08:33:37 AM
Quote from: powen01 on October 07, 2010, 07:31:28 AM
Quote from: Night Man on October 06, 2010, 08:18:04 PM
Quote from: powen01 on October 06, 2010, 06:53:48 PM
I just got an Apple TV. For some stupid reason, they expect me to keep my iTunes client open on another computer while it accesses my library on my NAS in the basement. If I turn off the laptop with iTunes, I can't get into the NAS or my music and videos.
Stupid? Yes. This also trumps the bullshit about being energy efficient... So stupid.
It has no hard drive and is a streaming device. What did you expect?
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if they fix that at some point so ATV can access the library without using iTunes. Front Row on Mac OS X used to launch iTunes in the background when started, but then they updated the app so it can access content directly through the iTunes Library database file without launching iTunes. Anyway, to sum up, they're working on it.
Incorrect. 8 GB's on board...
For caching purposes only.
Do you really need all 8 GB's for caching? Seems as if the capacity could be used for more than caching... I don't think other devices use that much for caching, do they?
Maybe that's room for apps at some point post-SDK. Not content though.
Apple + Verizon (stage 1?)
http://www.loopinsight.com/2010/10/14/verizon-att-stores-to-sell-ipad-starting-oct-28/
QuoteApple and Verizon on Thursday said the iPad would be available at Verizon stores beginning October 28.
Verizon Wireless will offer three bundles, all featuring an iPad Wi-Fi model and a Verizon MiFi 2200 Intelligent Mobile Hotspot. The iPad Wi-Fi 16GB + MiFi costs $629.99, the iPad Wi-Fi 32GB + MiFi is $729.99, and the iPad Wi-Fi 64GB + MiFi costs $829.99.
Verizon Wireless is offering a monthly access plan to iPad customers of up to 1GB of data for $20 a month. In addition, Verizon Wireless will also offer all three iPad Wi-Fi models on a standalone basis.
Verizon said the MiFi 2200 is small enough to fit in a pocket and allows customers to create a personal Wi-Fi cloud capable of sharing the high-speed Internet connectivity of the Verizon Wireless 3G Mobile Broadband network with up to five Wi-Fi-enabled devices. The MiFi's rechargeable battery provides up to four hours of active use and 40 hours of standby time on a single charge.
AT&T will also carry the iPad in its 2,200 stores, the companies announced on Thursday. This really isn't a big surprise since the companies have been partners with the iPhone for a number of years.
All iPad + 3G models will be available from AT&T beginning October 28. AT&T's plans also include access to the company's more than 23,000 domestic Wi-Fi Hot Spots.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 14, 2010, 03:36:06 PM
Apple + Verizon (stage 1?)
http://www.loopinsight.com/2010/10/14/verizon-att-stores-to-sell-ipad-starting-oct-28/
QuoteApple and Verizon on Thursday said the iPad would be available at Verizon stores beginning October 28.
Verizon Wireless will offer three bundles, all featuring an iPad Wi-Fi model and a Verizon MiFi 2200 Intelligent Mobile Hotspot. The iPad Wi-Fi 16GB + MiFi costs $629.99, the iPad Wi-Fi 32GB + MiFi is $729.99, and the iPad Wi-Fi 64GB + MiFi costs $829.99.
Verizon Wireless is offering a monthly access plan to iPad customers of up to 1GB of data for $20 a month. In addition, Verizon Wireless will also offer all three iPad Wi-Fi models on a standalone basis.
Verizon said the MiFi 2200 is small enough to fit in a pocket and allows customers to create a personal Wi-Fi cloud capable of sharing the high-speed Internet connectivity of the Verizon Wireless 3G Mobile Broadband network with up to five Wi-Fi-enabled devices. The MiFi's rechargeable battery provides up to four hours of active use and 40 hours of standby time on a single charge.
AT&T will also carry the iPad in its 2,200 stores, the companies announced on Thursday. This really isn't a big surprise since the companies have been partners with the iPhone for a number of years.
All iPad + 3G models will be available from AT&T beginning October 28. AT&T's plans also include access to the company's more than 23,000 domestic Wi-Fi Hot Spots.
Possibly a start to limited 3G plans too?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 20, 2010, 05:18:58 PM
Quote from: Yeti on September 20, 2010, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: morpheus on September 19, 2010, 03:00:31 PM
Ok... so suppose I were considering purchasing an iPad. Those of you that have them : is it worth ponying up the extra cash for 3G?
Or you could consider the Samsung Galaxy Tab (http://www.pcworld.com/article/204779/samsung_galaxy_tab_vs_the_ipad_compare_for_yourself.html). Side-by-Side Comparison (http://www.pcworld.com/zoom?id=204779&page=1&zoomIdx=1).
I'm somewhat prefer the smaller size. And I hear it will be compatible with all service providers
The Samsung's price here has not been announced yet, but there are hints that it may cost more than the iPad if you don't buy it with a contract from a particular carrier:
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Galaxy-Tab-Pricing-Froyo-Honeycomb,news-7937.html
Coming to Verizon store near you... (http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/20/verizon-to-sell-galaxy-tab-starting-november-11-for-600-world/)
Apple iPad: 1GHz, 16GB storage, 256MB RAM, 1.5 lb, 9.7-inch IPS LCD display (132ppi resolution) with 3G connectivity (GSM or Wifi-only bundled with Verizon CDMA MiFi) and running iOS... $629 w/out data plan
Samsung Galaxy Tab: 1GHz, 16GB storage, 512MB RAM, 1 lb, 7-inch IPS LCD display (170ppi resolution) with 3G connectivity (separate GSM and CDMA models)... $599 w/out data plan
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 20, 2010, 07:02:01 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 20, 2010, 05:18:58 PM
Quote from: Yeti on September 20, 2010, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: morpheus on September 19, 2010, 03:00:31 PM
Ok... so suppose I were considering purchasing an iPad. Those of you that have them : is it worth ponying up the extra cash for 3G?
Or you could consider the Samsung Galaxy Tab (http://www.pcworld.com/article/204779/samsung_galaxy_tab_vs_the_ipad_compare_for_yourself.html). Side-by-Side Comparison (http://www.pcworld.com/zoom?id=204779&page=1&zoomIdx=1).
I'm somewhat prefer the smaller size. And I hear it will be compatible with all service providers
The Samsung's price here has not been announced yet, but there are hints that it may cost more than the iPad if you don't buy it with a contract from a particular carrier:
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Galaxy-Tab-Pricing-Froyo-Honeycomb,news-7937.html
Coming to Verizon store near you... (http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/20/verizon-to-sell-galaxy-tab-starting-november-11-for-600-world/)
Apple iPad: 1GHz, 16GB storage, 256MB RAM, 1.5 lb, 9.7-inch IPS LCD display (132ppi resolution) with 3G connectivity (GSM or Wifi-only bundled with Verizon CDMA MiFi) and running iOS... $629 w/out data plan
Samsung Galaxy Tab: 1GHz, 16GB storage, 512MB RAM, 1 lb, 7-inch IPS LCD display (170ppi resolution) with 3G connectivity (separate GSM and CDMA models)... $599 w/out data plan
Anyone who buys based on specs alone deserves what they're stuck with using. For $30 more you get a bigger screen and proven tablet OS, without battery-sucking and poorly performing Flash. Not to mention a robust selection of apps dwarfing the shitty V-cast apps (which probably can't be removed, though I could be wrong on that) and whatever other paltry options are out there for it. Really the only thing that sets it apart is the camera, but taking pictures is why you have a smartphone. What interests you about the Tab?
Quote from: Night Man on October 20, 2010, 10:11:46 PM
What interests you about the Tab?
Nothing, really.
I'm mostly interested in how, despite conventional wisdom having them charge a brand premium on their devices, Apple's hardware is in reality almost always competitively-priced for the specs.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 21, 2010, 01:44:03 PM
Quote from: Night Man on October 20, 2010, 10:11:46 PM
What interests you about the Tab?
Nothing, really.
I'm mostly interested in how, despite conventional wisdom having them charge a brand premium on their devices, Apple's hardware is in reality almost always competitively-priced for the specs.
In that case, I applaud you sir.
Quote from: Night Man on October 21, 2010, 06:37:18 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 21, 2010, 01:44:03 PM
Quote from: Night Man on October 20, 2010, 10:11:46 PM
What interests you about the Tab?
Nothing, really.
I'm mostly interested in how, despite conventional wisdom having them charge a brand premium on their devices, Apple's hardware is in reality almost always competitively-priced for the specs.
In that case, I applaud you sir.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/apple-ipads-rivals-cant-hang-on-pricing/41163
QuoteThe alleged iPad killing tablets are coming, but with price tags that aren't going to even come close to denting Apple's lead. When Apple CEO Steve Jobs launched the iPad it wasn't clear how aggressively these newfangled devices were priced. Now we know because Android tablets and other rival tablets can't hang on pricing.
In recent days, tablet pricing details have emerged. To wit:
* Samsung's 7-inch Galaxy Tab will run you $499 for a Wi-Fi version (top right). That price matches Apple's iPad pricing and Samsung is packing in some key hardware features. But Samsung isn't likely to move the needle on thwarting Apple.
* ViewSonic announced its ViewPad Android devices (bottom right). The ViewPad 7-inch version will run you $479. The 10-inch version will run you $629. Both versions are Wi-Fi with no 3G.
* The HP Slate 500 has Windows 7 will cost you $799. Even though the HP Slate is geared for business use, there were plenty of chief information officers with iPads at the Gartner powwow last month.
* Will Research in Motion's pricing on the PlayBook even be in the ballpark? We don't know yet, but it's unlikely.
These prices illustrate how aggressive Jobs was at the iPad launch. Apple had the device and the pricing to arguably grab at least an 18-month lead.
Internets have it that tomorrow Apple will announce the addition of the Beatles' catalog to iTunes.
And that you'll never forget it.
(http://i.imgur.com/qJnIh.jpg)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703326204575617004052395816.html
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 15, 2010, 08:17:16 PM
Internets have it that tomorrow Apple will announce the addition of the Beatles' catalog to iTunes.
And that you'll never forget it.
(http://i.imgur.com/qJnIh.jpg)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703326204575617004052395816.html
So I can get music that I already have.
But in a crappier format.
http://www.cultofmac.com/artist-pays-homage-to-apple-by-destroying-its-products/68997
http://www.fubiz.net/2010/11/15/apple-destroyed-products/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/nov/21/ipad-newspaper-steve-jobs-rupert-murdoch
QuoteRupert Murdoch, head of the media giant News Corp, and Steve Jobs, the chief executive of Apple, are preparing to unveil a new digital "newspaper" called the Daily at the end of this month, according to reports in the US media.
The collaboration, which has been secretly under development in New York for several months, promises to be the world's first "newspaper" designed exclusively for new tablet-style computers such as Apple's iPad, with a launch planned for early next year.
...
Murdoch believes the iPad is going to be a "game changer" and he has seen projections that there will be 40 million iPads in circulation by the end of 2011. A source said: "He envisions a world in which every family has a iPad in the home and it becomes the device from which they get their news and information. If only 5% of those 40 million subscribe to the Daily, that's already two million customers."
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 22, 2010, 04:42:19 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/nov/21/ipad-newspaper-steve-jobs-rupert-murdoch
QuoteRupert Murdoch, head of the media giant News Corp, and Steve Jobs, the chief executive of Apple, are preparing to unveil a new digital "newspaper" called the Daily at the end of this month, according to reports in the US media.
The collaboration, which has been secretly under development in New York for several months, promises to be the world's first "newspaper" designed exclusively for new tablet-style computers such as Apple's iPad, with a launch planned for early next year.
...
Murdoch believes the iPad is going to be a "game changer" and he has seen projections that there will be 40 million iPads in circulation by the end of 2011. A source said: "He envisions a world in which every family has a iPad in the home and it becomes the device from which they get their news and information. If only 5% of those 40 million subscribe to the Daily, that's already two million customers."
It's an EV3NT of epic proportions.
Quote from: morpheus on November 22, 2010, 04:48:49 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 22, 2010, 04:42:19 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/nov/21/ipad-newspaper-steve-jobs-rupert-murdoch
QuoteRupert Murdoch, head of the media giant News Corp, and Steve Jobs, the chief executive of Apple, are preparing to unveil a new digital "newspaper" called the Daily at the end of this month, according to reports in the US media.
The collaboration, which has been secretly under development in New York for several months, promises to be the world's first "newspaper" designed exclusively for new tablet-style computers such as Apple's iPad, with a launch planned for early next year.
...
Murdoch believes the iPad is going to be a "game changer" and he has seen projections that there will be 40 million iPads in circulation by the end of 2011. A source said: "He envisions a world in which every family has a iPad in the home and it becomes the device from which they get their news and information. If only 5% of those 40 million subscribe to the Daily, that's already two million customers."
It's an EV3NT of epic proportions.
Fuck.
(slaps Gil)
(http://i.imgur.com/OgOba.jpg)
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 08, 2011, 10:52:44 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/OgOba.jpg)
Verizon saves all their images with Paintbrush '95.
Quote from: Night Man on January 08, 2011, 07:05:00 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 08, 2011, 10:52:44 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/OgOba.jpg)
Verizon saves all their images with Paintbrush '95.
You broke the rules, Thrill, you posted this invite. THE RULES!
Quote from: RedBeard on January 09, 2011, 01:40:43 PM
Quote from: Night Man on January 08, 2011, 07:05:00 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 08, 2011, 10:52:44 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/OgOba.jpg)
Verizon saves all their images with Paintbrush '95.
You broke the rules, Thrill, you posted this invite. THE RULES!
I expect some hired goons from Weber Shandwick to be knocking on my door post haste.
In related news...
http://gizmodo.com/5727934/the-verizon-iphone-will-be-announced-on-january-11
QuoteHere's what's key: We're great friends with Verizon. (Hi guys!) We've worked with them for years, and we've been to like every event they've had over the last three years. We haven't gotten an invite. Which is weird. And Jim Dalrymple, who received an invite, only writes about Apple and doesn't cover Verizon directly. We've reached out to Verizon to see why, exactly, we weren't invited, but we've gotten no comment yet. (Update: Verizon's official response is a big ol' no comment.)
The only reason we can think of is that it's an Apple event, and Steve doesn't want us there. You know the story (http://gizmodo.com/5520164/this-is-apples-next-iphone).
So who's getting the VZW iPhone?
Quote from: Night Man on January 11, 2011, 07:25:22 PM
So who's getting the VZW iPhone?
MsHawk is likely to, her 3G is giving up the ghost and her contract has been up for a while now. As she doesnt mind AT+T, we may wait to see what they offer up.
Quote from: Night Man on January 11, 2011, 07:25:22 PM
So who's getting the VZW iPhone?
I like my Droid too much.
Two things...
1. Is apple going to drop a white iphone 4 on the market or what? Mofo's better hurry up.
2. MLBtv on Apple TV 2nd Gen... I'm going to be able to airplay it to my big screen from my phone app, aren't I? This could, potentially, rock my panties.
Quote from: powen01 on January 27, 2011, 11:06:43 AM
1. Is apple going to drop a white iphone 4 on the market or what? Mofo's better hurry up.
Back in October they said Spring 2011...
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69P59W20101026
But at this point what's the point?
Could someone please let me know when one of these Apple/Google TV things will let me watch live sports? Thanks guys.
Quote from: R-V on January 27, 2011, 12:38:53 PM
Could someone please let me know when one of these Apple/Google TV things will let me watch live sports? Thanks guys.
When the cable companies finally get their act fully together on TV Everywhere and can figure out all the authentication issues, ESPN will be ready with live programming on your computer.
Granted, it won't allow you to cut the cord (a primary driver of a device like Apple TV), but you will have access to live sports.
In the meantime...you can watch live sports right here. (http://espn.go.com/espn3/)
Maccabi Electra Tel Aviv vs. Lottomatica Roma - LIVE.
Quote from: PenPho on January 27, 2011, 02:24:11 PM
Quote from: R-V on January 27, 2011, 12:38:53 PM
Could someone please let me know when one of these Apple/Google TV things will let me watch live sports? Thanks guys.
When the cable companies finally get their act fully together on TV Everywhere and can figure out all the authentication issues, ESPN will be ready with live programming on your computer.
Granted, it won't allow you to cut the cord (a primary driver of a device like Apple TV), but you will have access to live sports.
In the meantime...you can watch live sports right here. (http://espn.go.com/espn3/)
Maccabi Electra Tel Aviv vs. Lottomatica Roma - LIVE.
Yes, but will it finally settle which country is the greatest on Earth?
Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 27, 2011, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: PenPho on January 27, 2011, 02:24:11 PM
Quote from: R-V on January 27, 2011, 12:38:53 PM
Could someone please let me know when one of these Apple/Google TV things will let me watch live sports? Thanks guys.
When the cable companies finally get their act fully together on TV Everywhere and can figure out all the authentication issues, ESPN will be ready with live programming on your computer.
Granted, it won't allow you to cut the cord (a primary driver of a device like Apple TV), but you will have access to live sports.
In the meantime...you can watch live sports right here. (http://espn.go.com/espn3/)
Maccabi Electra Tel Aviv vs. Lottomatica Roma - LIVE.
Yes, but will it finally settle which country is the greatest on Earth?
Maybe you didn't hear, but Finland already won that title. (http://www.65degreesnorth.com/news/finland-best-country-in-the-world-again-for-a-few-hours/)
ESPN 3's on the XBOX 360 right now and it's steak sauce.
New MBPs today, new iPad in less than a week. Happy birthday Steve!
Quote from: Sterling Archer on February 24, 2011, 10:42:45 AM
New MBPs today...
THUNDERBOLT! THUNDERBOLT! THUNDERBOLT! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ04mfAY2BU)
Quote from: R-V on January 27, 2011, 12:38:53 PM
Could someone please let me know when one of these Apple/Google TV things will let me watch live sports? Thanks guys.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/subscriptions/appletv.jsp
QuoteBlackout and other restrictions apply and are subject to change.
Natch.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 09, 2011, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: R-V on January 27, 2011, 12:38:53 PM
Could someone please let me know when one of these Apple/Google TV things will let me watch live sports? Thanks guys.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/subscriptions/appletv.jsp
QuoteBlackout and other restrictions apply and are subject to change.
Natch.
Also:
http://www.nba.com/appletv/
Anyone have issues having iTunes recognize their iPhone lately? I mean, god forbid that I plug my iPhone into my computer and expect iTunes to detect it but I would kind of like it to. I've fucked with the drivers. iTunes did like 2 updates within the last 2 weeks, and I downloaded them. I'm current. However, this fucking program won't recognize this fucking phone. I made sure the driver is updated. It is. Under "Device Manager" it shows the phone as a mobile device.
Quote from: Yeti on March 14, 2011, 11:05:19 PM
Anyone have issues having iTunes recognize their iPhone lately? I mean, god forbid that I plug my iPhone into my computer and expect iTunes to detect it but I would kind of like it to. I've fucked with the drivers. iTunes did like 2 updates within the last 2 weeks, and I downloaded them. I'm current. However, this fucking program won't recognize this fucking phone. I made sure the driver is updated. It is. Under "Device Manager" it shows the phone as a mobile device.
Have you tried different USB ports? Resetting the iPhone (hold sleep/wake and home until it goes black, then release. If you did it right the Apple logo should appear)?
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 15, 2011, 12:29:08 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 14, 2011, 11:05:19 PM
Anyone have issues having iTunes recognize their iPhone lately? I mean, god forbid that I plug my iPhone into my computer and expect iTunes to detect it but I would kind of like it to. I've fucked with the drivers. iTunes did like 2 updates within the last 2 weeks, and I downloaded them. I'm current. However, this fucking program won't recognize this fucking phone. I made sure the driver is updated. It is. Under "Device Manager" it shows the phone as a mobile device.
Have you tried different USB ports? Resetting the iPhone (hold sleep/wake and home until it goes black, then release. If you did it right the Apple logo should appear)?
Yea. I've reset the phone, tried all 3 USB ports, 2 different USB Cables. I also reinstalled iTunes last night. Just not sure what it is. I don't hook the phone up to the computer often. I think the last time was 2-3 weeks ago and I had no issue at that time. I do know there's a new iOS to download but if I can't get it plugged into the computer, that isn't happening.
CT's boyz say Jobs killed the music industry. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/15/bon-jovi-steve-jobs-killing-music_n_835818.html)
Quote from: Yeti on March 15, 2011, 08:09:27 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 15, 2011, 12:29:08 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 14, 2011, 11:05:19 PM
Anyone have issues having iTunes recognize their iPhone lately? I mean, god forbid that I plug my iPhone into my computer and expect iTunes to detect it but I would kind of like it to. I've fucked with the drivers. iTunes did like 2 updates within the last 2 weeks, and I downloaded them. I'm current. However, this fucking program won't recognize this fucking phone. I made sure the driver is updated. It is. Under "Device Manager" it shows the phone as a mobile device.
Have you tried different USB ports? Resetting the iPhone (hold sleep/wake and home until it goes black, then release. If you did it right the Apple logo should appear)?
Yea. I've reset the phone, tried all 3 USB ports, 2 different USB Cables. I also reinstalled iTunes last night. Just not sure what it is. I don't hook the phone up to the computer often. I think the last time was 2-3 weeks ago and I had no issue at that time. I do know there's a new iOS to download but if I can't get it plugged into the computer, that isn't happening.
Have you supermerged large numbers of excel spreadsheets into 1 cell recently?
I know this is slightly amusing timing considering my posts above, but is anyone interested in an iPhone 4 for AT&T for somewhere in the $350-400 range? I think that's what they're going for on eBay. One thing I think my phone will have over others is the fact that I have some paid apps that I won't delete when I sell it off. Some of those include MLB At Bat 2011 ($15), Fangraphs ($3), Words ($2), Angry Birds ($3), Angry Birds Seasons ($3?), Tiny Wings ($1). I am not 100% on if these will transfer for over fine if the ownership changes. I see no reason it wouldn't, but you never know. If it won't, someone can let me know. I've had it since it came out last June and it's been dropped from a height over 4 feet maybe one time, and when that happened I had a case on it. I have looked it over and I don't see any visible blemishes like scratches, etc. Also, the phone, contrary to popular belief, is not linked to any child pornography scandals. I've kept that all on my computer.
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 08:24:55 PM
I know this is slightly amusing timing considering my posts above, but is anyone interested in an iPhone 4 for AT&T for somewhere in the $350-400 range? I think that's what they're going for on eBay. One thing I think my phone will have over others is the fact that I have some paid apps that I won't delete when I sell it off. Some of those include MLB At Bat 2011 ($15), Fangraphs ($3), Words ($2), Angry Birds ($3), Angry Birds Seasons ($3?), Tiny Wings ($1). I am not 100% on if these will transfer for over fine if the ownership changes. I see no reason it wouldn't, but you never know. If it won't, someone can let me know. I've had it since it came out last June and it's been dropped from a height over 4 feet maybe one time, and when that happened I had a case on it. I have looked it over and I don't see any visible blemishes like scratches, etc. Also, the phone, contrary to popular belief, is not linked to any child pornography scandals. I've kept that all on my computer.
you're an idiot
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 08:24:55 PM
I know this is slightly amusing timing considering my posts above, but is anyone interested in an iPhone 4 for AT&T for somewhere in the $350-400 range? I think that's what they're going for on eBay. One thing I think my phone will have over others is the fact that I have some paid apps that I won't delete when I sell it off. Some of those include MLB At Bat 2011 ($15), Fangraphs ($3), Words ($2), Angry Birds ($3), Angry Birds Seasons ($3?), Tiny Wings ($1). I am not 100% on if these will transfer for over fine if the ownership changes. I see no reason it wouldn't, but you never know. If it won't, someone can let me know. I've had it since it came out last June and it's been dropped from a height over 4 feet maybe one time, and when that happened I had a case on it. I have looked it over and I don't see any visible blemishes like scratches, etc. Also, the phone, contrary to popular belief, is not linked to any child pornography scandals. I've kept that all on my computer.
So the buyer either doesn't get any application updates, ever, and is completely screwed if the phone needs to be reset ... or you're giving him your iTunes password?
And have you tried this? (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=itunes+doesn%27t+recognize+iphone+windows)
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 17, 2011, 10:24:17 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 08:24:55 PM
I know this is slightly amusing timing considering my posts above, but is anyone interested in an iPhone 4 for AT&T for somewhere in the $350-400 range? I think that's what they're going for on eBay. One thing I think my phone will have over others is the fact that I have some paid apps that I won't delete when I sell it off. Some of those include MLB At Bat 2011 ($15), Fangraphs ($3), Words ($2), Angry Birds ($3), Angry Birds Seasons ($3?), Tiny Wings ($1). I am not 100% on if these will transfer for over fine if the ownership changes. I see no reason it wouldn't, but you never know. If it won't, someone can let me know. I've had it since it came out last June and it's been dropped from a height over 4 feet maybe one time, and when that happened I had a case on it. I have looked it over and I don't see any visible blemishes like scratches, etc. Also, the phone, contrary to popular belief, is not linked to any child pornography scandals. I've kept that all on my computer.
So the buyer either doesn't get any application updates, ever, and is completely screwed if the phone needs to be reset ... or you're giving him your iTunes password?
And have you tried this? (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=itunes+doesn%27t+recognize+iphone+windows)
So the apps aren't a selling point. Thanks. I decided to switch to Verizon today because I'm tired of being restricted on a 2gb limit plan. It had nothing to do with my issue the other night.
As far as the Google search, I dunno if I searched exactly that but I did a bunch of similar variations to that and.got no where
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 10:53:01 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 17, 2011, 10:24:17 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 08:24:55 PM
I know this is slightly amusing timing considering my posts above, but is anyone interested in an iPhone 4 for AT&T for somewhere in the $350-400 range? I think that's what they're going for on eBay. One thing I think my phone will have over others is the fact that I have some paid apps that I won't delete when I sell it off. Some of those include MLB At Bat 2011 ($15), Fangraphs ($3), Words ($2), Angry Birds ($3), Angry Birds Seasons ($3?), Tiny Wings ($1). I am not 100% on if these will transfer for over fine if the ownership changes. I see no reason it wouldn't, but you never know. If it won't, someone can let me know. I've had it since it came out last June and it's been dropped from a height over 4 feet maybe one time, and when that happened I had a case on it. I have looked it over and I don't see any visible blemishes like scratches, etc. Also, the phone, contrary to popular belief, is not linked to any child pornography scandals. I've kept that all on my computer.
So the buyer either doesn't get any application updates, ever, and is completely screwed if the phone needs to be reset ... or you're giving him your iTunes password?
And have you tried this? (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=itunes+doesn%27t+recognize+iphone+windows)
So the apps aren't a selling point. Thanks. I decided to switch to Verizon today because I'm tired of being restricted on a 2gb limit plan. It had nothing to do with my issue the other night.
As far as the Google search, I dunno if I searched exactly that but I did a bunch of similar variations to that and.got no where
So it wasn't the iPod service needing restarted? Sounds like a strong possibility for iTunes not recognizing an iPod/iPhone.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 17, 2011, 11:11:24 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 10:53:01 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 17, 2011, 10:24:17 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 08:24:55 PM
I know this is slightly amusing timing considering my posts above, but is anyone interested in an iPhone 4 for AT&T for somewhere in the $350-400 range? I think that's what they're going for on eBay. One thing I think my phone will have over others is the fact that I have some paid apps that I won't delete when I sell it off. Some of those include MLB At Bat 2011 ($15), Fangraphs ($3), Words ($2), Angry Birds ($3), Angry Birds Seasons ($3?), Tiny Wings ($1). I am not 100% on if these will transfer for over fine if the ownership changes. I see no reason it wouldn't, but you never know. If it won't, someone can let me know. I've had it since it came out last June and it's been dropped from a height over 4 feet maybe one time, and when that happened I had a case on it. I have looked it over and I don't see any visible blemishes like scratches, etc. Also, the phone, contrary to popular belief, is not linked to any child pornography scandals. I've kept that all on my computer.
So the buyer either doesn't get any application updates, ever, and is completely screwed if the phone needs to be reset ... or you're giving him your iTunes password?
And have you tried this? (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=itunes+doesn%27t+recognize+iphone+windows)
So the apps aren't a selling point. Thanks. I decided to switch to Verizon today because I'm tired of being restricted on a 2gb limit plan. It had nothing to do with my issue the other night.
As far as the Google search, I dunno if I searched exactly that but I did a bunch of similar variations to that and.got no where
So it wasn't the iPod service needing restarted? Sounds like a strong possibility for iTunes not recognizing an iPod/iPhone.
By "ipod service needing restarted" are you meaning that I would restart the computer or delete and.reinstall itunes? Because I did both of those.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 17, 2011, 09:53:20 PM
you're an idiot
So, can I put on the "not interested" list?
Quote from: Yeti on March 18, 2011, 07:45:54 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 17, 2011, 11:11:24 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 10:53:01 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 17, 2011, 10:24:17 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 08:24:55 PM
I know this is slightly amusing timing considering my posts above, but is anyone interested in an iPhone 4 for AT&T for somewhere in the $350-400 range? I think that's what they're going for on eBay. One thing I think my phone will have over others is the fact that I have some paid apps that I won't delete when I sell it off. Some of those include MLB At Bat 2011 ($15), Fangraphs ($3), Words ($2), Angry Birds ($3), Angry Birds Seasons ($3?), Tiny Wings ($1). I am not 100% on if these will transfer for over fine if the ownership changes. I see no reason it wouldn't, but you never know. If it won't, someone can let me know. I've had it since it came out last June and it's been dropped from a height over 4 feet maybe one time, and when that happened I had a case on it. I have looked it over and I don't see any visible blemishes like scratches, etc. Also, the phone, contrary to popular belief, is not linked to any child pornography scandals. I've kept that all on my computer.
So the buyer either doesn't get any application updates, ever, and is completely screwed if the phone needs to be reset ... or you're giving him your iTunes password?
And have you tried this? (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=itunes+doesn%27t+recognize+iphone+windows)
So the apps aren't a selling point. Thanks. I decided to switch to Verizon today because I'm tired of being restricted on a 2gb limit plan. It had nothing to do with my issue the other night.
As far as the Google search, I dunno if I searched exactly that but I did a bunch of similar variations to that and.got no where
So it wasn't the iPod service needing restarted? Sounds like a strong possibility for iTunes not recognizing an iPod/iPhone.
By "ipod service needing restarted" are you meaning that I would restart the computer or delete and.reinstall itunes? Because I did both of those.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=restart+ipod+service
http://support.apple.com/kb/ts1567
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 18, 2011, 08:19:33 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 18, 2011, 07:45:54 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 17, 2011, 11:11:24 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 10:53:01 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 17, 2011, 10:24:17 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 08:24:55 PM
I know this is slightly amusing timing considering my posts above, but is anyone interested in an iPhone 4 for AT&T for somewhere in the $350-400 range? I think that's what they're going for on eBay. One thing I think my phone will have over others is the fact that I have some paid apps that I won't delete when I sell it off. Some of those include MLB At Bat 2011 ($15), Fangraphs ($3), Words ($2), Angry Birds ($3), Angry Birds Seasons ($3?), Tiny Wings ($1). I am not 100% on if these will transfer for over fine if the ownership changes. I see no reason it wouldn't, but you never know. If it won't, someone can let me know. I've had it since it came out last June and it's been dropped from a height over 4 feet maybe one time, and when that happened I had a case on it. I have looked it over and I don't see any visible blemishes like scratches, etc. Also, the phone, contrary to popular belief, is not linked to any child pornography scandals. I've kept that all on my computer.
So the buyer either doesn't get any application updates, ever, and is completely screwed if the phone needs to be reset ... or you're giving him your iTunes password?
And have you tried this? (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=itunes+doesn%27t+recognize+iphone+windows)
So the apps aren't a selling point. Thanks. I decided to switch to Verizon today because I'm tired of being restricted on a 2gb limit plan. It had nothing to do with my issue the other night.
As far as the Google search, I dunno if I searched exactly that but I did a bunch of similar variations to that and.got no where
So it wasn't the iPod service needing restarted? Sounds like a strong possibility for iTunes not recognizing an iPod/iPhone.
By "ipod service needing restarted" are you meaning that I would restart the computer or delete and.reinstall itunes? Because I did both of those.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=restart+ipod+service
http://support.apple.com/kb/ts1567
Dude, he already switched.
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 08:24:55 PMI know this is slightly amusing timing considering my posts above, but is anyone interested in an iPhone 4 for AT&T for somewhere in the $350-400 range? I think that's what they're going for on eBay. One thing I think my phone will have over others is the fact that I have some paid apps that I won't delete when I sell it off. Some of those include MLB At Bat 2011 ($15), Fangraphs ($3), Words ($2), Angry Birds ($3), Angry Birds Seasons ($3?), Tiny Wings ($1). I am not 100% on if these will transfer for over fine if the ownership changes. I see no reason it wouldn't, but you never know. If it won't, someone can let me know. I've had it since it came out last June and it's been dropped from a height over 4 feet maybe one time, and when that happened I had a case on it. I have looked it over and I don't see any visible blemishes like scratches, etc. Also, the phone, contrary to popular belief, is not linked to any child pornography scandals. I've kept that all on my computer.
It's unfortunate for you that self-awareness is not available for purchase.
Quote from: R-V on March 21, 2011, 08:35:58 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 08:24:55 PMI know this is slightly amusing timing considering my posts above, but is anyone interested in an iPhone 4 for AT&T for somewhere in the $350-400 range? I think that's what they're going for on eBay. One thing I think my phone will have over others is the fact that I have some paid apps that I won't delete when I sell it off. Some of those include MLB At Bat 2011 ($15), Fangraphs ($3), Words ($2), Angry Birds ($3), Angry Birds Seasons ($3?), Tiny Wings ($1). I am not 100% on if these will transfer for over fine if the ownership changes. I see no reason it wouldn't, but you never know. If it won't, someone can let me know. I've had it since it came out last June and it's been dropped from a height over 4 feet maybe one time, and when that happened I had a case on it. I have looked it over and I don't see any visible blemishes like scratches, etc. Also, the phone, contrary to popular belief, is not linked to any child pornography scandals. I've kept that all on my computer.
It's unfortunate for you that self-awareness is not available for purchase.
Ironically, Apple just released the "iSelfAware" app for the iPhone.
Quote from: R-V on March 21, 2011, 08:35:58 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 08:24:55 PMI know this is slightly amusing timing considering my posts above, but is anyone interested in an iPhone 4 for AT&T for somewhere in the $350-400 range? I think that's what they're going for on eBay. One thing I think my phone will have over others is the fact that I have some paid apps that I won't delete when I sell it off. Some of those include MLB At Bat 2011 ($15), Fangraphs ($3), Words ($2), Angry Birds ($3), Angry Birds Seasons ($3?), Tiny Wings ($1). I am not 100% on if these will transfer for over fine if the ownership changes. I see no reason it wouldn't, but you never know. If it won't, someone can let me know. I've had it since it came out last June and it's been dropped from a height over 4 feet maybe one time, and when that happened I had a case on it. I have looked it over and I don't see any visible blemishes like scratches, etc. Also, the phone, contrary to popular belief, is not linked to any child pornography scandals. I've kept that all on my computer.
It's unfortunate for you that self-awareness is not available for purchase.
QuoteSelf-awareness is the awareness that one exists as an individual being.
I am aware of my existence of an individual human being.
Also, a workaround could be don't about the itunes situation but it would only work if one doesn't already have an itunes account.
Also, I'm enjoying piniellatailonthenightmancccatssterlingarcher's butthurtedness about me wanting to sell his fav company's phone. All that while having Steve Jobs' don't hanging out of his mouth. When I decided to go to Verizon I didn't even factor in the problems I had that night. I was tired of being stuck with a provider that limits my internet usage. I found a workaround to the phone issue i had that night anyway.
RV: "It's unfortunate for you that self-awareness is not available for purchase."
Yetti: [ looks up "self-awareness" in a dictionary ]
Quod erat demonstrandum.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 21, 2011, 10:16:54 AM
RV: "It's unfortunate for you that self-awareness is not available for purchase."
Yetti: [ looks up "self-awareness" in a dictionary ]
Quod erat demonstrandum.
Being a smartass to someone is a demonstration of a lack of self-awareness? What a world. Plus, being a smartest who claims that I've been trying to get people to "fix my broken phone for a month now" when it isn't even broken.
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 10:23:55 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 21, 2011, 10:16:54 AM
RV: "It's unfortunate for you that self-awareness is not available for purchase."
Yetti: [ looks up "self-awareness" in a dictionary ]
Quod erat demonstrandum.
Being a smartass to someone is a demonstration of a lack of self-awareness? What a world. Plus, being a smartest who claims that I've been trying to get people to "fix my broken phone for a month now" when it isn't even broken.
A smartest what? Phone fixerupper? Or a broken phone sellerman?
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 10:23:55 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 21, 2011, 10:16:54 AM
RV: "It's unfortunate for you that self-awareness is not available for purchase."
Yetti: [ looks up "self-awareness" in a dictionary ]
Quod erat demonstrandum.
Being a smartass to someone is a demonstration of a lack of self-awareness? What a world. Plus, being a smartest who claims that I've been trying to get people to "fix my broken phone for a month now" when it isn't even broken.
I don't understand this Kurt Evans photoshop at all.
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 21, 2011, 08:35:58 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 08:24:55 PMI know this is slightly amusing timing considering my posts above, but is anyone interested in an iPhone 4 for AT&T for somewhere in the $350-400 range? I think that's what they're going for on eBay. One thing I think my phone will have over others is the fact that I have some paid apps that I won't delete when I sell it off. Some of those include MLB At Bat 2011 ($15), Fangraphs ($3), Words ($2), Angry Birds ($3), Angry Birds Seasons ($3?), Tiny Wings ($1). I am not 100% on if these will transfer for over fine if the ownership changes. I see no reason it wouldn't, but you never know. If it won't, someone can let me know. I've had it since it came out last June and it's been dropped from a height over 4 feet maybe one time, and when that happened I had a case on it. I have looked it over and I don't see any visible blemishes like scratches, etc. Also, the phone, contrary to popular belief, is not linked to any child pornography scandals. I've kept that all on my computer.
It's unfortunate for you that self-awareness is not available for purchase.
QuoteSelf-awareness is the awareness that one exists as an individual being.
I am aware of my existence of an individual human being.
Also, a workaround could be don't about the itunes situation but it would only work if one doesn't already have an itunes account.
Also, I'm enjoying piniellatailonthenightmancccatssterlingarcher's butthurtedness about me wanting to sell his fav company's phone. All that while having Steve Jobs' don't hanging out of his mouth. When I decided to go to Verizon I didn't even factor in the problems I had that night. I was tired of being stuck with a provider that limits my internet usage. I found a workaround to the phone issue i had that night anyway.
That, or I'm making fun of you trying to use apps you purchased with your iTunes account that require your password to update and sync as a selling point for a phone. I do have Steve's don't hanging from my mouth, at least I think so because I'm not sure what a don't is, but correlation doesn't imply causation. If trying to help you fix your problem means I'm butthurt about you selling it, then the lesson is to never help.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 10:27:51 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 21, 2011, 08:35:58 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 08:24:55 PMI know this is slightly amusing timing considering my posts above, but is anyone interested in an iPhone 4 for AT&T for somewhere in the $350-400 range? I think that's what they're going for on eBay. One thing I think my phone will have over others is the fact that I have some paid apps that I won't delete when I sell it off. Some of those include MLB At Bat 2011 ($15), Fangraphs ($3), Words ($2), Angry Birds ($3), Angry Birds Seasons ($3?), Tiny Wings ($1). I am not 100% on if these will transfer for over fine if the ownership changes. I see no reason it wouldn't, but you never know. If it won't, someone can let me know. I've had it since it came out last June and it's been dropped from a height over 4 feet maybe one time, and when that happened I had a case on it. I have looked it over and I don't see any visible blemishes like scratches, etc. Also, the phone, contrary to popular belief, is not linked to any child pornography scandals. I've kept that all on my computer.
It's unfortunate for you that self-awareness is not available for purchase.
QuoteSelf-awareness is the awareness that one exists as an individual being.
I am aware of my existence of an individual human being.
Also, a workaround could be don't about the itunes situation but it would only work if one doesn't already have an itunes account.
Also, I'm enjoying piniellatailonthenightmancccatssterlingarcher's butthurtedness about me wanting to sell his fav company's phone. All that while having Steve Jobs' don't hanging out of his mouth. When I decided to go to Verizon I didn't even factor in the problems I had that night. I was tired of being stuck with a provider that limits my internet usage. I found a workaround to the phone issue i had that night anyway.
That, or I'm making fun of you trying to use apps you purchased with your iTunes account that require your password to update and sync as a selling point for a phone. I do have Steve's don't hanging from my mouth, at least I think so because I'm not sure what a don't is, but correlation doesn't imply causation. If trying to help you fix your problem means I'm butthurt about you selling it, then the lesson is to never help.
Lmgify links seem link you're a bit butthurt. Like I said, a workaround does exist. Like, the purchaser could assume my itunes account since I won't need it. Nonetheless, it doesn't matter since I don't give a shit. I'll sell it on eBay just fine.
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 10:33:01 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 10:27:51 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 21, 2011, 08:35:58 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 08:24:55 PMI know this is slightly amusing timing considering my posts above, but is anyone interested in an iPhone 4 for AT&T for somewhere in the $350-400 range? I think that's what they're going for on eBay. One thing I think my phone will have over others is the fact that I have some paid apps that I won't delete when I sell it off. Some of those include MLB At Bat 2011 ($15), Fangraphs ($3), Words ($2), Angry Birds ($3), Angry Birds Seasons ($3?), Tiny Wings ($1). I am not 100% on if these will transfer for over fine if the ownership changes. I see no reason it wouldn't, but you never know. If it won't, someone can let me know. I've had it since it came out last June and it's been dropped from a height over 4 feet maybe one time, and when that happened I had a case on it. I have looked it over and I don't see any visible blemishes like scratches, etc. Also, the phone, contrary to popular belief, is not linked to any child pornography scandals. I've kept that all on my computer.
It's unfortunate for you that self-awareness is not available for purchase.
QuoteSelf-awareness is the awareness that one exists as an individual being.
I am aware of my existence of an individual human being.
Also, a workaround could be don't about the itunes situation but it would only work if one doesn't already have an itunes account.
Also, I'm enjoying piniellatailonthenightmancccatssterlingarcher's butthurtedness about me wanting to sell his fav company's phone. All that while having Steve Jobs' don't hanging out of his mouth. When I decided to go to Verizon I didn't even factor in the problems I had that night. I was tired of being stuck with a provider that limits my internet usage. I found a workaround to the phone issue i had that night anyway.
That, or I'm making fun of you trying to use apps you purchased with your iTunes account that require your password to update and sync as a selling point for a phone. I do have Steve's don't hanging from my mouth, at least I think so because I'm not sure what a don't is, but correlation doesn't imply causation. If trying to help you fix your problem means I'm butthurt about you selling it, then the lesson is to never help.
Lmgify links seem link you're a bit butthurt. Like I said, a workaround does exist. Like, the purchaser could assume my itunes account since I won't need it. Nonetheless, it doesn't matter since I don't give a shit. I'll sell it on eBay just fine.
Lmgify links amuse me, that's all. But since iTunes accounts require credit card numbers, I'll take it.
That Yetti Guy sure is self-aware.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 10:33:54 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 10:33:01 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 10:27:51 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 21, 2011, 08:35:58 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 08:24:55 PMI know this is slightly amusing timing considering my posts above, but is anyone interested in an iPhone 4 for AT&T for somewhere in the $350-400 range? I think that's what they're going for on eBay. One thing I think my phone will have over others is the fact that I have some paid apps that I won't delete when I sell it off. Some of those include MLB At Bat 2011 ($15), Fangraphs ($3), Words ($2), Angry Birds ($3), Angry Birds Seasons ($3?), Tiny Wings ($1). I am not 100% on if these will transfer for over fine if the ownership changes. I see no reason it wouldn't, but you never know. If it won't, someone can let me know. I've had it since it came out last June and it's been dropped from a height over 4 feet maybe one time, and when that happened I had a case on it. I have looked it over and I don't see any visible blemishes like scratches, etc. Also, the phone, contrary to popular belief, is not linked to any child pornography scandals. I've kept that all on my computer.
It's unfortunate for you that self-awareness is not available for purchase.
QuoteSelf-awareness is the awareness that one exists as an individual being.
I am aware of my existence of an individual human being.
Also, a workaround could be don't about the itunes situation but it would only work if one doesn't already have an itunes account.
Also, I'm enjoying piniellatailonthenightmancccatssterlingarcher's butthurtedness about me wanting to sell his fav company's phone. All that while having Steve Jobs' don't hanging out of his mouth. When I decided to go to Verizon I didn't even factor in the problems I had that night. I was tired of being stuck with a provider that limits my internet usage. I found a workaround to the phone issue i had that night anyway.
That, or I'm making fun of you trying to use apps you purchased with your iTunes account that require your password to update and sync as a selling point for a phone. I do have Steve's don't hanging from my mouth, at least I think so because I'm not sure what a don't is, but correlation doesn't imply causation. If trying to help you fix your problem means I'm butthurt about you selling it, then the lesson is to never help.
Lmgify links seem link you're a bit butthurt. Like I said, a workaround does exist. Like, the purchaser could assume my itunes account since I won't need it. Nonetheless, it doesn't matter since I don't give a shit. I'll sell it on eBay just fine.
Lmgify links amuse me, that's all. But since iTunes accounts require credit card numbers, I'll take it.
I was definitely going to leave the credit card number as is. From the links that were poster, it sounds like it's a computer issue and the phone is *gasp* not broken. $400 is a typical price.on eBay so I was going to try to give these apps to someone on here. My apologies for trying to be courteous. I really liked the iPhone. It was easy to use and a very good device. I like the flexibility the android OS provides though. I was pretty close to buying the iPhone for Verizon but since the Thunderbolt was coming out the day after i went into the verizon store and being a state employee got me the phone at a discount I went with it.
If you looked at Yeti right now, righteous steam would be coming out of his ears.
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:17:12 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 10:33:54 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 10:33:01 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 10:27:51 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 21, 2011, 08:35:58 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 08:24:55 PMI know this is slightly amusing timing considering my posts above, but is anyone interested in an iPhone 4 for AT&T for somewhere in the $350-400 range? I think that's what they're going for on eBay. One thing I think my phone will have over others is the fact that I have some paid apps that I won't delete when I sell it off. Some of those include MLB At Bat 2011 ($15), Fangraphs ($3), Words ($2), Angry Birds ($3), Angry Birds Seasons ($3?), Tiny Wings ($1). I am not 100% on if these will transfer for over fine if the ownership changes. I see no reason it wouldn't, but you never know. If it won't, someone can let me know. I've had it since it came out last June and it's been dropped from a height over 4 feet maybe one time, and when that happened I had a case on it. I have looked it over and I don't see any visible blemishes like scratches, etc. Also, the phone, contrary to popular belief, is not linked to any child pornography scandals. I've kept that all on my computer.
It's unfortunate for you that self-awareness is not available for purchase.
QuoteSelf-awareness is the awareness that one exists as an individual being.
I am aware of my existence of an individual human being.
Also, a workaround could be don't about the itunes situation but it would only work if one doesn't already have an itunes account.
Also, I'm enjoying piniellatailonthenightmancccatssterlingarcher's butthurtedness about me wanting to sell his fav company's phone. All that while having Steve Jobs' don't hanging out of his mouth. When I decided to go to Verizon I didn't even factor in the problems I had that night. I was tired of being stuck with a provider that limits my internet usage. I found a workaround to the phone issue i had that night anyway.
That, or I'm making fun of you trying to use apps you purchased with your iTunes account that require your password to update and sync as a selling point for a phone. I do have Steve's don't hanging from my mouth, at least I think so because I'm not sure what a don't is, but correlation doesn't imply causation. If trying to help you fix your problem means I'm butthurt about you selling it, then the lesson is to never help.
Lmgify links seem link you're a bit butthurt. Like I said, a workaround does exist. Like, the purchaser could assume my itunes account since I won't need it. Nonetheless, it doesn't matter since I don't give a shit. I'll sell it on eBay just fine.
Lmgify links amuse me, that's all. But since iTunes accounts require credit card numbers, I'll take it.
I was definitely going to leave the credit card number as is. From the links that were poster, it sounds like it's a computer issue and the phone is *gasp* not broken. $400 is a typical price.on eBay so I was going to try to give these apps to someone on here. My apologies for trying to be courteous. I really liked the iPhone. It was easy to use and a very good device. I like the flexibility the android OS provides though. I was pretty close to buying the iPhone for Verizon but since the Thunderbolt was coming out the day after i went into the verizon store and being a state employee got me the phone at a discount I went with it.
Eyed like a poster of you're lynx
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:17:12 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 10:33:54 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 10:33:01 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 10:27:51 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 21, 2011, 08:35:58 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 08:24:55 PMI know this is slightly amusing timing considering my posts above, but is anyone interested in an iPhone 4 for AT&T for somewhere in the $350-400 range? I think that's what they're going for on eBay. One thing I think my phone will have over others is the fact that I have some paid apps that I won't delete when I sell it off. Some of those include MLB At Bat 2011 ($15), Fangraphs ($3), Words ($2), Angry Birds ($3), Angry Birds Seasons ($3?), Tiny Wings ($1). I am not 100% on if these will transfer for over fine if the ownership changes. I see no reason it wouldn't, but you never know. If it won't, someone can let me know. I've had it since it came out last June and it's been dropped from a height over 4 feet maybe one time, and when that happened I had a case on it. I have looked it over and I don't see any visible blemishes like scratches, etc. Also, the phone, contrary to popular belief, is not linked to any child pornography scandals. I've kept that all on my computer.
It's unfortunate for you that self-awareness is not available for purchase.
QuoteSelf-awareness is the awareness that one exists as an individual being.
I am aware of my existence of an individual human being.
Also, a workaround could be don't about the itunes situation but it would only work if one doesn't already have an itunes account.
Also, I'm enjoying piniellatailonthenightmancccatssterlingarcher's butthurtedness about me wanting to sell his fav company's phone. All that while having Steve Jobs' don't hanging out of his mouth. When I decided to go to Verizon I didn't even factor in the problems I had that night. I was tired of being stuck with a provider that limits my internet usage. I found a workaround to the phone issue i had that night anyway.
That, or I'm making fun of you trying to use apps you purchased with your iTunes account that require your password to update and sync as a selling point for a phone. I do have Steve's don't hanging from my mouth, at least I think so because I'm not sure what a don't is, but correlation doesn't imply causation. If trying to help you fix your problem means I'm butthurt about you selling it, then the lesson is to never help.
Lmgify links seem link you're a bit butthurt. Like I said, a workaround does exist. Like, the purchaser could assume my itunes account since I won't need it. Nonetheless, it doesn't matter since I don't give a shit. I'll sell it on eBay just fine.
Lmgify links amuse me, that's all. But since iTunes accounts require credit card numbers, I'll take it.
I was definitely going to leave the credit card number as is. From the links that were poster, it sounds like it's a computer issue and the phone is *gasp* not broken. $400 is a typical price.on eBay so I was going to try to give these apps to someone on here. My apologies for trying to be courteous. I really liked the iPhone. It was easy to use and a very good device. I like the flexibility the android OS provides though. I was pretty close to buying the iPhone for Verizon but since the Thunderbolt was coming out the day after i went into the verizon store and being a state employee got me the phone at a discount I went with it.
Considering all the typos you've made in the last couple minutes I'm going to assume you're typing all these out on your broken iphone (without the benefit of a dialing wand). Which makes this latest episode of "That's Our Yetti" even more amusing.
Not to question the accuracy of Ebay - but why would I pay you $400 for a broken phone when I can pay $200 or less to cancel my contract at my current provider, then buy a shiny new iphone from AT&T for $50? I don't understand these market forces at all.
Quote from: R-V on March 21, 2011, 11:28:51 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:17:12 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 10:33:54 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 10:33:01 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 10:27:51 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 21, 2011, 08:35:58 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 08:24:55 PMI know this is slightly amusing timing considering my posts above, but is anyone interested in an iPhone 4 for AT&T for somewhere in the $350-400 range? I think that's what they're going for on eBay. One thing I think my phone will have over others is the fact that I have some paid apps that I won't delete when I sell it off. Some of those include MLB At Bat 2011 ($15), Fangraphs ($3), Words ($2), Angry Birds ($3), Angry Birds Seasons ($3?), Tiny Wings ($1). I am not 100% on if these will transfer for over fine if the ownership changes. I see no reason it wouldn't, but you never know. If it won't, someone can let me know. I've had it since it came out last June and it's been dropped from a height over 4 feet maybe one time, and when that happened I had a case on it. I have looked it over and I don't see any visible blemishes like scratches, etc. Also, the phone, contrary to popular belief, is not linked to any child pornography scandals. I've kept that all on my computer.
It's unfortunate for you that self-awareness is not available for purchase.
QuoteSelf-awareness is the awareness that one exists as an individual being.
I am aware of my existence of an individual human being.
Also, a workaround could be don't about the itunes situation but it would only work if one doesn't already have an itunes account.
Also, I'm enjoying piniellatailonthenightmancccatssterlingarcher's butthurtedness about me wanting to sell his fav company's phone. All that while having Steve Jobs' don't hanging out of his mouth. When I decided to go to Verizon I didn't even factor in the problems I had that night. I was tired of being stuck with a provider that limits my internet usage. I found a workaround to the phone issue i had that night anyway.
That, or I'm making fun of you trying to use apps you purchased with your iTunes account that require your password to update and sync as a selling point for a phone. I do have Steve's don't hanging from my mouth, at least I think so because I'm not sure what a don't is, but correlation doesn't imply causation. If trying to help you fix your problem means I'm butthurt about you selling it, then the lesson is to never help.
Lmgify links seem link you're a bit butthurt. Like I said, a workaround does exist. Like, the purchaser could assume my itunes account since I won't need it. Nonetheless, it doesn't matter since I don't give a shit. I'll sell it on eBay just fine.
Lmgify links amuse me, that's all. But since iTunes accounts require credit card numbers, I'll take it.
I was definitely going to leave the credit card number as is. From the links that were poster, it sounds like it's a computer issue and the phone is *gasp* not broken. $400 is a typical price.on eBay so I was going to try to give these apps to someone on here. My apologies for trying to be courteous. I really liked the iPhone. It was easy to use and a very good device. I like the flexibility the android OS provides though. I was pretty close to buying the iPhone for Verizon but since the Thunderbolt was coming out the day after i went into the verizon store and being a state employee got me the phone at a discount I went with it.
Considering all the typos you've made in the last couple minutes I'm going to assume you're typing all these out on your broken iphone (without the benefit of a dialing wand). Which makes this latest episode of "That's Our Yetti" even more amusing.
Not to question the accuracy of Ebay - but why would I pay you $400 for a broken phone when I can pay $200 or less to cancel my contract at my current provider, then buy a shiny new iphone from AT&T for $50? I don't understand these market forces at all.
Incentives.
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Quote from: R-V on March 21, 2011, 11:28:51 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:17:12 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 10:33:54 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 10:33:01 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 10:27:51 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 21, 2011, 08:35:58 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 08:24:55 PMI know this is slightly amusing timing considering my posts above, but is anyone interested in an iPhone 4 for AT&T for somewhere in the $350-400 range? I think that's what they're going for on eBay. One thing I think my phone will have over others is the fact that I have some paid apps that I won't delete when I sell it off. Some of those include MLB At Bat 2011 ($15), Fangraphs ($3), Words ($2), Angry Birds ($3), Angry Birds Seasons ($3?), Tiny Wings ($1). I am not 100% on if these will transfer for over fine if the ownership changes. I see no reason it wouldn't, but you never know. If it won't, someone can let me know. I've had it since it came out last June and it's been dropped from a height over 4 feet maybe one time, and when that happened I had a case on it. I have looked it over and I don't see any visible blemishes like scratches, etc. Also, the phone, contrary to popular belief, is not linked to any child pornography scandals. I've kept that all on my computer.
It's unfortunate for you that self-awareness is not available for purchase.
QuoteSelf-awareness is the awareness that one exists as an individual being.
I am aware of my existence of an individual human being.
Also, a workaround could be don't about the itunes situation but it would only work if one doesn't already have an itunes account.
Also, I'm enjoying piniellatailonthenightmancccatssterlingarcher's butthurtedness about me wanting to sell his fav company's phone. All that while having Steve Jobs' don't hanging out of his mouth. When I decided to go to Verizon I didn't even factor in the problems I had that night. I was tired of being stuck with a provider that limits my internet usage. I found a workaround to the phone issue i had that night anyway.
That, or I'm making fun of you trying to use apps you purchased with your iTunes account that require your password to update and sync as a selling point for a phone. I do have Steve's don't hanging from my mouth, at least I think so because I'm not sure what a don't is, but correlation doesn't imply causation. If trying to help you fix your problem means I'm butthurt about you selling it, then the lesson is to never help.
Lmgify links seem link you're a bit butthurt. Like I said, a workaround does exist. Like, the purchaser could assume my itunes account since I won't need it. Nonetheless, it doesn't matter since I don't give a shit. I'll sell it on eBay just fine.
Lmgify links amuse me, that's all. But since iTunes accounts require credit card numbers, I'll take it.
I was definitely going to leave the credit card number as is. From the links that were poster, it sounds like it's a computer issue and the phone is *gasp* not broken. $400 is a typical price.on eBay so I was going to try to give these apps to someone on here. My apologies for trying to be courteous. I really liked the iPhone. It was easy to use and a very good device. I like the flexibility the android OS provides though. I was pretty close to buying the iPhone for Verizon but since the Thunderbolt was coming out the day after i went into the verizon store and being a state employee got me the phone at a discount I went with it.
Considering all the typos you've made in the last couple minutes I'm going to assume you're typing all these out on your broken iphone (without the benefit of a dialing wand). Which makes this latest episode of "That's Our Yetti" even more amusing.
Not to question the accuracy of Ebay - but why would I pay you $400 for a broken phone when I can pay $200 or less to cancel my contract at my current provider, then buy a shiny new iphone from AT&T for $50? I don't understand these market forces at all.
Yeah, but is it a game-worn Yeti iPhone?
I didn't think so.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 21, 2011, 10:16:54 AM
RV: "It's unfortunate for you that self-awareness is not available for purchase."
Yetti: [ looks up "self-awareness" in a dictionary ]
I enjoyed this.
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:17:12 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 10:33:54 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 10:33:01 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 10:27:51 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 21, 2011, 08:35:58 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 17, 2011, 08:24:55 PMI know this is slightly amusing timing considering my posts above, but is anyone interested in an iPhone 4 for AT&T for somewhere in the $350-400 range? I think that's what they're going for on eBay. One thing I think my phone will have over others is the fact that I have some paid apps that I won't delete when I sell it off. Some of those include MLB At Bat 2011 ($15), Fangraphs ($3), Words ($2), Angry Birds ($3), Angry Birds Seasons ($3?), Tiny Wings ($1). I am not 100% on if these will transfer for over fine if the ownership changes. I see no reason it wouldn't, but you never know. If it won't, someone can let me know. I've had it since it came out last June and it's been dropped from a height over 4 feet maybe one time, and when that happened I had a case on it. I have looked it over and I don't see any visible blemishes like scratches, etc. Also, the phone, contrary to popular belief, is not linked to any child pornography scandals. I've kept that all on my computer.
It's unfortunate for you that self-awareness is not available for purchase.
QuoteSelf-awareness is the awareness that one exists as an individual being.
I am aware of my existence of an individual human being.
Also, a workaround could be don't about the itunes situation but it would only work if one doesn't already have an itunes account.
Also, I'm enjoying piniellatailonthenightmancccatssterlingarcher's butthurtedness about me wanting to sell his fav company's phone. All that while having Steve Jobs' don't hanging out of his mouth. When I decided to go to Verizon I didn't even factor in the problems I had that night. I was tired of being stuck with a provider that limits my internet usage. I found a workaround to the phone issue i had that night anyway.
That, or I'm making fun of you trying to use apps you purchased with your iTunes account that require your password to update and sync as a selling point for a phone. I do have Steve's don't hanging from my mouth, at least I think so because I'm not sure what a don't is, but correlation doesn't imply causation. If trying to help you fix your problem means I'm butthurt about you selling it, then the lesson is to never help.
Lmgify links seem link you're a bit butthurt. Like I said, a workaround does exist. Like, the purchaser could assume my itunes account since I won't need it. Nonetheless, it doesn't matter since I don't give a shit. I'll sell it on eBay just fine.
Lmgify links amuse me, that's all. But since iTunes accounts require credit card numbers, I'll take it.
I was definitely going to leave the credit card number as is. From the links that were poster, it sounds like it's a computer issue and the phone is *gasp* not broken. $400 is a typical price.on eBay so I was going to try to give these apps to someone on here. My apologies for trying to be courteous. I really liked the iPhone. It was easy to use and a very good device. I like the flexibility the android OS provides though. I was pretty close to buying the iPhone for Verizon but since the Thunderbolt was coming out the day after i went into the verizon store and being a state employee got me the phone at a discount I went with it.
O RLY?
Quote from: R-V on March 21, 2011, 11:28:51 AM
Considering all the typos you've made in the last couple minutes I'm going to assume you're typing all these out on your broken iphone (without the benefit of a dialing wand). Which makes this latest episode of "That's Our Yetti" even more amusing.
Not to question the accuracy of Ebay - but why would I pay you $400 for a broken phone when I can pay $200 or less to cancel my contract at my current provider, then buy a shiny new iphone from AT&T for $50? I don't understand these market forces at all.
Actually its on my nice new non-broken phone. 4G and all.
Anyway, that could work if you're not with AT&T already... But then you're buying the iPhone 3gs for reasons I don't understand. If I was going to switch to AT&T for the iPhone, I sure as shit wouldnt buy the model from 2009. However, if you're with AT&T already and you are still under contract yet need a new phone, and you'd like an iPhone, its either $600+ from Apple/Verizon/att without a contract or go to eBay and buy one cheaper. Also, $200 might not be a guaranteed cancellation price. i know with AT&T it costs "$350 + $10 of each remaining month" to cancel with the iPhone (and that also includes other select models). I was lucky enough that I was on a family plan and I'm stripping my account down to $10 a month for the next 8 months. So, its kind of cheap for me. Plus, I have the opportunity to go back to my old number at that time if I chose to do so.
Quote from: R-V on March 21, 2011, 11:28:51 AM
Considering all the typos you've made in the last couple minutes I'm going to assume you're typing all these out on your broken iphone (without the benefit of a dialing wand). Which makes this latest episode of "That's Our Yetti" even more amusing.
I've been assuming it's his new phone, which makes it even better.
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:54:07 AM
Anyway, that could work if you're not with AT&T already... But then you're buying the iPhone 3gs for reasons I don't understand. If I was going to switch to AT&T for the iPhone, I sure as shit wouldnt buy the model from 2009.
Or he could wait a few months and get the 2010 iPhone 4 at whatever steep discount they're selling it at after the new one comes out in June (likely $99 if history is a guide, possibly less).
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 21, 2011, 11:58:41 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 21, 2011, 11:28:51 AM
Considering all the typos you've made in the last couple minutes I'm going to assume you're typing all these out on your broken iphone (without the benefit of a dialing wand). Which makes this latest episode of "That's Our Yetti" even more amusing.
I've been assuming it's his new phone, which makes it even better.
Face
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 21, 2011, 12:01:12 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:54:07 AM
Anyway, that could work if you're not with AT&T already... But then you're buying the iPhone 3gs for reasons I don't understand. If I was going to switch to AT&T for the iPhone, I sure as shit wouldnt buy the model from 2009.
Or he could wait a few months and get the 2010 iPhone 4 at whatever steep discount they're selling it at after the new one comes out in June (likely $99 if history is a guide, possibly less).
Why would anyone base a decision off of things that have happened in the past? Isn't that absurd?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 21, 2011, 12:01:12 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:54:07 AM
Anyway, that could work if you're not with AT&T already... But then you're buying the iPhone 3gs for reasons I don't understand. If I was going to switch to AT&T for the iPhone, I sure as shit wouldnt buy the model from 2009.
Or he could wait a few months and get the 2010 iPhone 4 at whatever steep discount they're selling it at after the new one comes out in June (likely $99 if history is a guide, possibly less).
Also, there are people out there who need a phone today and are mid-contract and are Apple fanboys who won't buy anything but the iPhone 4
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 12:22:30 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 21, 2011, 12:01:12 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:54:07 AM
Anyway, that could work if you're not with AT&T already... But then you're buying the iPhone 3gs for reasons I don't understand. If I was going to switch to AT&T for the iPhone, I sure as shit wouldnt buy the model from 2009.
Or he could wait a few months and get the 2010 iPhone 4 at whatever steep discount they're selling it at after the new one comes out in June (likely $99 if history is a guide, possibly less).
Also, there are people out there who need a phone today and are mid-contract and are Apple fanboys who won't buy anything but the iPhone 4
Did you sell your phone already over the weekend?
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 12:04:42 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 21, 2011, 12:01:12 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:54:07 AM
Anyway, that could work if you're not with AT&T already... But then you're buying the iPhone 3gs for reasons I don't understand. If I was going to switch to AT&T for the iPhone, I sure as shit wouldnt buy the model from 2009.
Or he could wait a few months and get the 2010 iPhone 4 at whatever steep discount they're selling it at after the new one comes out in June (likely $99 if history is a guide, possibly less).
Why would anyone base a decision off of things that have happened in the past? Isn't that absurd?
All the sarcasm in the world can't paper over the distinction between independent and dependent events.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 21, 2011, 12:28:10 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 12:22:30 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 21, 2011, 12:01:12 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:54:07 AM
Anyway, that could work if you're not with AT&T already... But then you're buying the iPhone 3gs for reasons I don't understand. If I was going to switch to AT&T for the iPhone, I sure as shit wouldnt buy the model from 2009.
Or he could wait a few months and get the 2010 iPhone 4 at whatever steep discount they're selling it at after the new one comes out in June (likely $99 if history is a guide, possibly less).
Also, there are people out there who need a phone today and are mid-contract and are Apple fanboys who won't buy anything but the iPhone 4
Did you sell your phone already over the weekend?
If not, he should at least post the Ebay link so we can bid on it.
This is all because Yeti's phone doesn't connect to itunes? What is he trying to sync so often? When i had my iphone, I connected it to my computer once every couple of months.
Quote from: BH on March 21, 2011, 12:33:31 PM
This is all because Yeti's phone doesn't connect to itunes? What is he trying to sync so often? When i had my iphone, I connected it to my computer once every couple of months.
Like I said I'm not getting rid of it because of.... Aw fuck it. I shouldn't sell my broken iPhone. My bad.
*puts down shovel*
Thank you for starting this thread, BH.
It's awesome.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:17:12 AM
I was definitely going to leave the credit card number as is. From the links that were poster, it sounds like it's a computer issue and the phone is *gasp* not broken. $400 is a typical price.on eBay so I was going to try to give these apps to someone on here. My apologies for trying to be courteous. I really liked the iPhone. It was easy to use and a very good device. I like the flexibility the android OS provides though. I was pretty close to buying the iPhone for Verizon but since the Thunderbolt was coming out the day after i went into the verizon store and being a state employee got me the phone at a discount I went with it.
O RLY?
Yes, really. That's some primetime butthurtness in that video, too. Suck on the taint, por favor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Z11l1qgC0&feature=channel_video_title)
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 07:49:48 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:17:12 AM
I was definitely going to leave the credit card number as is. From the links that were poster, it sounds like it's a computer issue and the phone is *gasp* not broken. $400 is a typical price.on eBay so I was going to try to give these apps to someone on here. My apologies for trying to be courteous. I really liked the iPhone. It was easy to use and a very good device. I like the flexibility the android OS provides though. I was pretty close to buying the iPhone for Verizon but since the Thunderbolt was coming out the day after i went into the verizon store and being a state employee got me the phone at a discount I went with it.
O RLY?
Yes, really. That's some primetime butthurtness in that video, too. Suck on the taint, por favor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Z11l1qgC0&feature=channel_video_title)
You are the gift that keeps on digging.
Quote from: Bort on March 21, 2011, 08:25:32 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 07:49:48 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:17:12 AM
I was definitely going to leave the credit card number as is. From the links that were poster, it sounds like it's a computer issue and the phone is *gasp* not broken. $400 is a typical price.on eBay so I was going to try to give these apps to someone on here. My apologies for trying to be courteous. I really liked the iPhone. It was easy to use and a very good device. I like the flexibility the android OS provides though. I was pretty close to buying the iPhone for Verizon but since the Thunderbolt was coming out the day after i went into the verizon store and being a state employee got me the phone at a discount I went with it.
O RLY?
Yes, really. That's some primetime butthurtness in that video, too. Suck on the taint, por favor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Z11l1qgC0&feature=channel_video_title)
You are the gift that keeps on digging.
Because the iPhone that everyone was accusing me of being broken isn't broke or that I'm this butthurt about it? The second, I'll understand.
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 08:27:36 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 21, 2011, 08:25:32 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 07:49:48 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:17:12 AM
I was definitely going to leave the credit card number as is. From the links that were poster, it sounds like it's a computer issue and the phone is *gasp* not broken. $400 is a typical price.on eBay so I was going to try to give these apps to someone on here. My apologies for trying to be courteous. I really liked the iPhone. It was easy to use and a very good device. I like the flexibility the android OS provides though. I was pretty close to buying the iPhone for Verizon but since the Thunderbolt was coming out the day after i went into the verizon store and being a state employee got me the phone at a discount I went with it.
O RLY?
Yes, really. That's some primetime butthurtness in that video, too. Suck on the taint, por favor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Z11l1qgC0&feature=channel_video_title)
You are the gift that keeps on digging.
Because the iPhone that everyone was accusing me of being broken isn't broke or that I'm this butthurt about it? The second, I'll understand.
Oh, there are a myriad of reasons, but most point to butthurt.
Quote from: Bort on March 21, 2011, 08:29:29 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 08:27:36 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 21, 2011, 08:25:32 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 07:49:48 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:17:12 AM
I was definitely going to leave the credit card number as is. From the links that were poster, it sounds like it's a computer issue and the phone is *gasp* not broken. $400 is a typical price.on eBay so I was going to try to give these apps to someone on here. My apologies for trying to be courteous. I really liked the iPhone. It was easy to use and a very good device. I like the flexibility the android OS provides though. I was pretty close to buying the iPhone for Verizon but since the Thunderbolt was coming out the day after i went into the verizon store and being a state employee got me the phone at a discount I went with it.
O RLY?
Yes, really. That's some primetime butthurtness in that video, too. Suck on the taint, por favor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Z11l1qgC0&feature=channel_video_title)
You are the gift that keeps on digging.
Because the iPhone that everyone was accusing me of being broken isn't broke or that I'm this butthurt about it? The second, I'll understand.
Oh, there are a myriad of reasons, but most point to butthurt.
Eh, fuck it. I don't care. If no one wants the phone, then oh well. The transfer of the iTunes account would work since the CC associated to the account isn't active anymore. But, I don't care. But, nonetheless, I was right about the phone working. So, I'll continue to sell my iPhone on eBay for $350-400 while PenFoe "can get himself a shiny refurbed iPhone 3GS for a mere $20*"
*ignoring all the contract stipulations, but he can get it dammit!
I've really only been skimming this thread but I'm in favor of the whole zeitgeist of the thing.
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 08:38:27 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 21, 2011, 08:29:29 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 08:27:36 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 21, 2011, 08:25:32 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 07:49:48 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:17:12 AM
I was definitely going to leave the credit card number as is. From the links that were poster, it sounds like it's a computer issue and the phone is *gasp* not broken. $400 is a typical price.on eBay so I was going to try to give these apps to someone on here. My apologies for trying to be courteous. I really liked the iPhone. It was easy to use and a very good device. I like the flexibility the android OS provides though. I was pretty close to buying the iPhone for Verizon but since the Thunderbolt was coming out the day after i went into the verizon store and being a state employee got me the phone at a discount I went with it.
O RLY?
Yes, really. That's some primetime butthurtness in that video, too. Suck on the taint, por favor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Z11l1qgC0&feature=channel_video_title)
You are the gift that keeps on digging.
Because the iPhone that everyone was accusing me of being broken isn't broke or that I'm this butthurt about it? The second, I'll understand.
Oh, there are a myriad of reasons, but most point to butthurt.
Eh, fuck it. I don't care. If no one wants the phone, then oh well. The transfer of the iTunes account would work since the CC associated to the account isn't active anymore. But, I don't care. But, nonetheless, I was right about the phone working. So, I'll continue to sell my iPhone on eBay for $350-400 while PenFoe "can get himself a shiny refurbed iPhone 3GS for a mere $20*"
*ignoring all the contract stipulations, but he can get it dammit!
You'll show us.
You'll show us all.
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 08:38:27 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 21, 2011, 08:29:29 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 08:27:36 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 21, 2011, 08:25:32 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 07:49:48 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:17:12 AM
I was definitely going to leave the credit card number as is. From the links that were poster, it sounds like it's a computer issue and the phone is *gasp* not broken. $400 is a typical price.on eBay so I was going to try to give these apps to someone on here. My apologies for trying to be courteous. I really liked the iPhone. It was easy to use and a very good device. I like the flexibility the android OS provides though. I was pretty close to buying the iPhone for Verizon but since the Thunderbolt was coming out the day after i went into the verizon store and being a state employee got me the phone at a discount I went with it.
O RLY?
Yes, really. That's some primetime butthurtness in that video, too. Suck on the taint, por favor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Z11l1qgC0&feature=channel_video_title)
You are the gift that keeps on digging.
Because the iPhone that everyone was accusing me of being broken isn't broke or that I'm this butthurt about it? The second, I'll understand.
Oh, there are a myriad of reasons, but most point to butthurt.
Eh, fuck it. I don't care. If no one wants the phone, then oh well. The transfer of the iTunes account would work since the CC associated to the account isn't active anymore. But, I don't care. But, nonetheless, I was right about the phone working. So, I'll continue to sell my iPhone on eBay for $350-400 while PenFoe "can get himself a shiny refurbed iPhone 3GS for a mere $20*"
*ignoring all the contract stipulations, but he can get it dammit!
Link to the ebay posting please?
Quote from: R-V on March 21, 2011, 08:49:06 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 08:38:27 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 21, 2011, 08:29:29 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 08:27:36 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 21, 2011, 08:25:32 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 07:49:48 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:17:12 AM
I was definitely going to leave the credit card number as is. From the links that were poster, it sounds like it's a computer issue and the phone is *gasp* not broken. $400 is a typical price.on eBay so I was going to try to give these apps to someone on here. My apologies for trying to be courteous. I really liked the iPhone. It was easy to use and a very good device. I like the flexibility the android OS provides though. I was pretty close to buying the iPhone for Verizon but since the Thunderbolt was coming out the day after i went into the verizon store and being a state employee got me the phone at a discount I went with it.
O RLY?
Yes, really. That's some primetime butthurtness in that video, too. Suck on the taint, por favor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Z11l1qgC0&feature=channel_video_title)
You are the gift that keeps on digging.
Because the iPhone that everyone was accusing me of being broken isn't broke or that I'm this butthurt about it? The second, I'll understand.
Oh, there are a myriad of reasons, but most point to butthurt.
Eh, fuck it. I don't care. If no one wants the phone, then oh well. The transfer of the iTunes account would work since the CC associated to the account isn't active anymore. But, I don't care. But, nonetheless, I was right about the phone working. So, I'll continue to sell my iPhone on eBay for $350-400 while PenFoe "can get himself a shiny refurbed iPhone 3GS for a mere $20*"
*ignoring all the contract stipulations, but he can get it dammit!
Link to the ebay posting please?
I'll get right on it.
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 09:32:24 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 21, 2011, 08:49:06 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 08:38:27 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 21, 2011, 08:29:29 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 08:27:36 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 21, 2011, 08:25:32 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 07:49:48 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:17:12 AM
I was definitely going to leave the credit card number as is. From the links that were poster, it sounds like it's a computer issue and the phone is *gasp* not broken. $400 is a typical price.on eBay so I was going to try to give these apps to someone on here. My apologies for trying to be courteous. I really liked the iPhone. It was easy to use and a very good device. I like the flexibility the android OS provides though. I was pretty close to buying the iPhone for Verizon but since the Thunderbolt was coming out the day after i went into the verizon store and being a state employee got me the phone at a discount I went with it.
O RLY?
Yes, really. That's some primetime butthurtness in that video, too. Suck on the taint, por favor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Z11l1qgC0&feature=channel_video_title)
You are the gift that keeps on digging.
Because the iPhone that everyone was accusing me of being broken isn't broke or that I'm this butthurt about it? The second, I'll understand.
Oh, there are a myriad of reasons, but most point to butthurt.
Eh, fuck it. I don't care. If no one wants the phone, then oh well. The transfer of the iTunes account would work since the CC associated to the account isn't active anymore. But, I don't care. But, nonetheless, I was right about the phone working. So, I'll continue to sell my iPhone on eBay for $350-400 while PenFoe "can get himself a shiny refurbed iPhone 3GS for a mere $20*"
*ignoring all the contract stipulations, but he can get it dammit!
Link to the ebay posting please?
I'll get right on it.
[...]
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 21, 2011, 10:30:48 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 09:32:24 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 21, 2011, 08:49:06 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 08:38:27 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 21, 2011, 08:29:29 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 08:27:36 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 21, 2011, 08:25:32 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 07:49:48 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:17:12 AM
I was definitely going to leave the credit card number as is. From the links that were poster, it sounds like it's a computer issue and the phone is *gasp* not broken. $400 is a typical price.on eBay so I was going to try to give these apps to someone on here. My apologies for trying to be courteous. I really liked the iPhone. It was easy to use and a very good device. I like the flexibility the android OS provides though. I was pretty close to buying the iPhone for Verizon but since the Thunderbolt was coming out the day after i went into the verizon store and being a state employee got me the phone at a discount I went with it.
O RLY?
Yes, really. That's some primetime butthurtness in that video, too. Suck on the taint, por favor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Z11l1qgC0&feature=channel_video_title)
You are the gift that keeps on digging.
Because the iPhone that everyone was accusing me of being broken isn't broke or that I'm this butthurt about it? The second, I'll understand.
Oh, there are a myriad of reasons, but most point to butthurt.
Eh, fuck it. I don't care. If no one wants the phone, then oh well. The transfer of the iTunes account would work since the CC associated to the account isn't active anymore. But, I don't care. But, nonetheless, I was right about the phone working. So, I'll continue to sell my iPhone on eBay for $350-400 while PenFoe "can get himself a shiny refurbed iPhone 3GS for a mere $20*"
*ignoring all the contract stipulations, but he can get it dammit!
Link to the ebay posting please?
I'll get right on it.
[...]
http://cgi.ebay.com/Used-Apple-iphone-4-Black-16GB-AT-T-/320674814922 ???
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 21, 2011, 11:07:33 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 21, 2011, 10:30:48 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 09:32:24 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 21, 2011, 08:49:06 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 08:38:27 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 21, 2011, 08:29:29 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 08:27:36 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 21, 2011, 08:25:32 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 07:49:48 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:17:12 AM
I was definitely going to leave the credit card number as is. From the links that were poster, it sounds like it's a computer issue and the phone is *gasp* not broken. $400 is a typical price.on eBay so I was going to try to give these apps to someone on here. My apologies for trying to be courteous. I really liked the iPhone. It was easy to use and a very good device. I like the flexibility the android OS provides though. I was pretty close to buying the iPhone for Verizon but since the Thunderbolt was coming out the day after i went into the verizon store and being a state employee got me the phone at a discount I went with it.
O RLY?
Yes, really. That's some primetime butthurtness in that video, too. Suck on the taint, por favor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Z11l1qgC0&feature=channel_video_title)
You are the gift that keeps on digging.
Because the iPhone that everyone was accusing me of being broken isn't broke or that I'm this butthurt about it? The second, I'll understand.
Oh, there are a myriad of reasons, but most point to butthurt.
Eh, fuck it. I don't care. If no one wants the phone, then oh well. The transfer of the iTunes account would work since the CC associated to the account isn't active anymore. But, I don't care. But, nonetheless, I was right about the phone working. So, I'll continue to sell my iPhone on eBay for $350-400 while PenFoe "can get himself a shiny refurbed iPhone 3GS for a mere $20*"
*ignoring all the contract stipulations, but he can get it dammit!
Link to the ebay posting please?
I'll get right on it.
[...]
http://cgi.ebay.com/Used-Apple-iphone-4-Black-16GB-AT-T-/320674814922 ???
There is a huge market of sellers of the 16GB iPhone 4 in the big metropolis of Divernon, IL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divernon,_Illinois)
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:22:16 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 21, 2011, 11:07:33 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 21, 2011, 10:30:48 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 09:32:24 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 21, 2011, 08:49:06 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 08:38:27 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 21, 2011, 08:29:29 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 08:27:36 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 21, 2011, 08:25:32 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 07:49:48 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:17:12 AM
I was definitely going to leave the credit card number as is. From the links that were poster, it sounds like it's a computer issue and the phone is *gasp* not broken. $400 is a typical price.on eBay so I was going to try to give these apps to someone on here. My apologies for trying to be courteous. I really liked the iPhone. It was easy to use and a very good device. I like the flexibility the android OS provides though. I was pretty close to buying the iPhone for Verizon but since the Thunderbolt was coming out the day after i went into the verizon store and being a state employee got me the phone at a discount I went with it.
O RLY?
Yes, really. That's some primetime butthurtness in that video, too. Suck on the taint, por favor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Z11l1qgC0&feature=channel_video_title)
You are the gift that keeps on digging.
Because the iPhone that everyone was accusing me of being broken isn't broke or that I'm this butthurt about it? The second, I'll understand.
Oh, there are a myriad of reasons, but most point to butthurt.
Eh, fuck it. I don't care. If no one wants the phone, then oh well. The transfer of the iTunes account would work since the CC associated to the account isn't active anymore. But, I don't care. But, nonetheless, I was right about the phone working. So, I'll continue to sell my iPhone on eBay for $350-400 while PenFoe "can get himself a shiny refurbed iPhone 3GS for a mere $20*"
*ignoring all the contract stipulations, but he can get it dammit!
Link to the ebay posting please?
I'll get right on it.
[...]
http://cgi.ebay.com/Used-Apple-iphone-4-Black-16GB-AT-T-/320674814922 ???
There is a huge market of sellers of the 16GB iPhone 4 in the big metropolis of Divernon, IL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divernon,_Illinois)
Should just mock me now because that "Buy It Now" price of $450.00 was apparently too low since it just sold about 4 hours after being listed.
The clock is now ticking on Yeti's phone being used in a terrorist plot.
Nice knowing you, Irish Al-Yetti.
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:22:16 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 21, 2011, 11:07:33 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 21, 2011, 10:30:48 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 09:32:24 PM
Quote from: R-V on March 21, 2011, 08:49:06 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 08:38:27 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 21, 2011, 08:29:29 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 08:27:36 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 21, 2011, 08:25:32 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 07:49:48 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 21, 2011, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:17:12 AM
I was definitely going to leave the credit card number as is. From the links that were poster, it sounds like it's a computer issue and the phone is *gasp* not broken. $400 is a typical price.on eBay so I was going to try to give these apps to someone on here. My apologies for trying to be courteous. I really liked the iPhone. It was easy to use and a very good device. I like the flexibility the android OS provides though. I was pretty close to buying the iPhone for Verizon but since the Thunderbolt was coming out the day after i went into the verizon store and being a state employee got me the phone at a discount I went with it.
O RLY?
Yes, really. That's some primetime butthurtness in that video, too. Suck on the taint, por favor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Z11l1qgC0&feature=channel_video_title)
You are the gift that keeps on digging.
Because the iPhone that everyone was accusing me of being broken isn't broke or that I'm this butthurt about it? The second, I'll understand.
Oh, there are a myriad of reasons, but most point to butthurt.
Eh, fuck it. I don't care. If no one wants the phone, then oh well. The transfer of the iTunes account would work since the CC associated to the account isn't active anymore. But, I don't care. But, nonetheless, I was right about the phone working. So, I'll continue to sell my iPhone on eBay for $350-400 while PenFoe "can get himself a shiny refurbed iPhone 3GS for a mere $20*"
*ignoring all the contract stipulations, but he can get it dammit!
Link to the ebay posting please?
I'll get right on it.
[...]
http://cgi.ebay.com/Used-Apple-iphone-4-Black-16GB-AT-T-/320674814922 ???
There is a huge market of sellers of the 16GB iPhone 4 in the big metropolis of Divernon, IL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divernon,_Illinois)
You mean a huge market of buyers? Or are you saying that high supply = high price?
Quote from: R-V on March 22, 2011, 08:46:46 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:22:16 PM
[A bunch of high comedy]
There is a huge market of sellers of the 16GB iPhone 4 in the big metropolis of Divernon, IL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divernon,_Illinois)
You mean a huge market of buyers? Or are you saying that high supply = high price?
He meant the latter, I think. Apparently the "greater fool" theory still holds, since someone hit his "Buy It Now!" price.
EDIT: Fixed quote tags
Quote from: morpheus on March 22, 2011, 09:02:16 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 22, 2011, 08:46:46 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:22:16 PM
There is a huge market of sellers of the 16GB iPhone 4 in the big metropolis of Divernon, IL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divernon,_Illinois)
You mean a huge market of buyers? Or are you saying that high supply = high price?
He meant the latter, I think. Apparently the "greater fool" theory still holds, since someone hit his "Buy It Now!" price.
There were 0 bids as of my posting last night.
I'm very curious what the Nigerian Finance Minister is going to do with a locked AT&T iPhone 4.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 22, 2011, 09:08:47 AM
Quote from: morpheus on March 22, 2011, 09:02:16 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 22, 2011, 08:46:46 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:22:16 PM
There is a huge market of sellers of the 16GB iPhone 4 in the big metropolis of Divernon, IL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divernon,_Illinois)
You mean a huge market of buyers? Or are you saying that high supply = high price?
He meant the latter, I think. Apparently the "greater fool" theory still holds, since someone hit his "Buy It Now!" price.
There were 0 bids as of my posting last night.
I'm very curious what the Nigerian Finance Minister is going to do with a locked AT&T iPhone 4.
The money is in my paypal account and I talked to paypal on the phone and they said I'm safe to send it (to NY). Upon doing research of the buyer, it appears he resells these in The Philippines, but as long as I have my $450, I don't give a shit. The guy has good ratings. So, there is a market for used iPhones.
Also, why was RV so appalled by me selling it when he is aware that an iPhone out of contract costs a shitload of money? (That number was wrong as the Verizon chick told me that a brand new one sells for $650 out of contract) (http://hje.me/sbox//dlog.php?highlight=p110705859&date=2010-6-7#p110705859)
Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2011, 09:17:44 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 22, 2011, 09:08:47 AM
Quote from: morpheus on March 22, 2011, 09:02:16 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 22, 2011, 08:46:46 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:22:16 PM
There is a huge market of sellers of the 16GB iPhone 4 in the big metropolis of Divernon, IL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divernon,_Illinois)
You mean a huge market of buyers? Or are you saying that high supply = high price?
He meant the latter, I think. Apparently the "greater fool" theory still holds, since someone hit his "Buy It Now!" price.
There were 0 bids as of my posting last night.
I'm very curious what the Nigerian Finance Minister is going to do with a locked AT&T iPhone 4.
The money is in my paypal account and I talked to paypal on the phone and they said I'm safe to send it (to NY). Upon doing research of the buyer, it appears he resells these in The Philippines, but as long as I have my $450, I don't give a shit. The guy has good ratings. So, there is a market for used iPhones.
But that's not hilarious at all.
Come on, Yeti... ENTERTAIN US WITH YOUR WOES.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 22, 2011, 09:20:46 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2011, 09:17:44 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 22, 2011, 09:08:47 AM
Quote from: morpheus on March 22, 2011, 09:02:16 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 22, 2011, 08:46:46 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:22:16 PM
There is a huge market of sellers of the 16GB iPhone 4 in the big metropolis of Divernon, IL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divernon,_Illinois)
You mean a huge market of buyers? Or are you saying that high supply = high price?
He meant the latter, I think. Apparently the "greater fool" theory still holds, since someone hit his "Buy It Now!" price.
There were 0 bids as of my posting last night.
I'm very curious what the Nigerian Finance Minister is going to do with a locked AT&T iPhone 4.
The money is in my paypal account and I talked to paypal on the phone and they said I'm safe to send it (to NY). Upon doing research of the buyer, it appears he resells these in The Philippines, but as long as I have my $450, I don't give a shit. The guy has good ratings. So, there is a market for used iPhones.
But that's not hilarious at all.
Come on, Yeti... ENTERTAIN US WITH YOUR WOES.
The smart money is on Yeti dropping it in the toilet before mailing it out.
Quote from: Fork on March 22, 2011, 07:23:10 AM
The clock is now ticking on Yeti's phone being used in a terrorist plot.
Nice knowing you, Irish Al-Yetti.
I stand by my original statement (http://www.cfr.org/philippines/terrorism-havens-philippines/p9365).
Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2011, 09:17:44 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 22, 2011, 09:08:47 AM
Quote from: morpheus on March 22, 2011, 09:02:16 AM
Quote from: R-V on March 22, 2011, 08:46:46 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 21, 2011, 11:22:16 PM
There is a huge market of sellers of the 16GB iPhone 4 in the big metropolis of Divernon, IL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divernon,_Illinois)
You mean a huge market of buyers? Or are you saying that high supply = high price?
He meant the latter, I think. Apparently the "greater fool" theory still holds, since someone hit his "Buy It Now!" price.
There were 0 bids as of my posting last night.
I'm very curious what the Nigerian Finance Minister is going to do with a locked AT&T iPhone 4.
The money is in my paypal account and I talked to paypal on the phone and they said I'm safe to send it (to NY). Upon doing research of the buyer, it appears he resells these in The Philippines, but as long as I have my $450, I don't give a shit. The guy has good ratings. So, there is a market for used iPhones.
Also, why was RV so appalled by me selling it when he is aware that an iPhone out of contract costs a shitload of money? (That number was wrong as the Verizon chick told me that a brand new one sells for $650 out of contract) (http://hje.me/sbox//dlog.php?highlight=p110705859&date=2010-6-7#p110705859)
Looks like I have egg on my face. I apologize for doubting your marketing skillz.
I'm more interested in Yeti's Bartman trading card. Is that going up on the auction block anytime soon?
Quote from: ChuckD on March 22, 2011, 08:37:42 PM
I'm more interested in Yeti's Bartman trading card. Is that going up on the auction block anytime soon?
HA! I forgot I even bought that. I just was fucking around when I did, I think. Looks like it was the March 22nd purchase. I have no clue where that thing is now. Probably the trash.
The February 04 purchase might have been a tie, but I don't remember for sure. The others, the fuck if I know. I'm not even sure how you figured it out, but along with Tank, you two are internet motherfuckers. I don't even remember what I bought in November of 10.. that was only 5 months ago, too. It's doing me a lot of good these days, I can tell.
Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2011, 08:46:57 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 22, 2011, 08:37:42 PM
I'm more interested in Yeti's Bartman trading card. Is that going up on the auction block anytime soon?
HA! I forgot I even bought that. I just was fucking around when I did, I think. Looks like it was the March 22nd purchase. I have no clue where that thing is now. Probably the trash.
The February 04 purchase might have been a tie, but I don't remember for sure. The others, the fuck if I know. I'm not even sure how you figured it out, but along with Tank, you two are internet motherfuckers. I don't even remember what I bought in November of 10.. that was only 5 months ago, too. It's doing me a lot of good these days, I can tell.
http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20040209134539/http://www.faketakes.com/sports.htm
Quote from: ChuckD on March 22, 2011, 08:54:18 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2011, 08:46:57 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 22, 2011, 08:37:42 PM
I'm more interested in Yeti's Bartman trading card. Is that going up on the auction block anytime soon?
HA! I forgot I even bought that. I just was fucking around when I did, I think. Looks like it was the March 22nd purchase. I have no clue where that thing is now. Probably the trash.
The February 04 purchase might have been a tie, but I don't remember for sure. The others, the fuck if I know. I'm not even sure how you figured it out, but along with Tank, you two are internet motherfuckers. I don't even remember what I bought in November of 10.. that was only 5 months ago, too. It's doing me a lot of good these days, I can tell.
http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20040209134539/http://www.faketakes.com/sports.htm
I was messing around with that site, but going through ebay. No wonder I wasn't finding anything.
If you don't have an iPhone...
If you have one of those old fashioned Apple machines with the keyboard, do yourself a favor and get the new firefox 4.0. You'll be reading the comments of morans in record time.
Quote from: thehawk on March 23, 2011, 01:12:02 PM
If you have one of those old fashioned Apple machines with the keyboard, do yourself a favor and get the new firefox 4.0. You'll be reading the comments of morans in record time.
Is it faster than Safari?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 23, 2011, 01:44:35 PM
Quote from: thehawk on March 23, 2011, 01:12:02 PM
If you have one of those old fashioned Apple machines with the keyboard, do yourself a favor and get the new firefox 4.0. You'll be reading the comments of morans in record time.
Is it faster than Safari?
Pfft. I been safarian since before you were born.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 23, 2011, 01:44:35 PM
Quote from: thehawk on March 23, 2011, 01:12:02 PM
If you have one of those old fashioned Apple machines with the keyboard, do yourself a favor and get the new firefox 4.0. You'll be reading the comments of morans in record time.
Is it faster than Safari?
From my limited use, I'd say it's a lot faster than Safari and comparable to Chrome. It seems improved.
Now I know why Yeti's posting in the Apple thread so much. (http://www.huliq.com/3257/exodus-international-ex-gay-app-removed-app-store)
Quote from: thehawk on March 23, 2011, 01:12:02 PM
If you have one of those old fashioned Apple machines with the keyboard, do yourself a favor and get the new firefox 4.0. You'll be reading the comments of morans in record time.
Does the app still look like shit on OS X though?
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 23, 2011, 02:56:44 PM
Quote from: thehawk on March 23, 2011, 01:12:02 PM
If you have one of those old fashioned Apple machines with the keyboard, do yourself a favor and get the new firefox 4.0. You'll be reading the comments of morans in record time.
Does the app still look like shit on OS X though?
Looks pretty good to me, and it seems faster than Chrome.
True story. Switched from iphone (2nd gen) on ATT in chicago (reception blew) to sprint. Decided to go cheap, with a blackberry.
Been about 5 months. Plan is nice and cheap. Canceling service, going back to iphones. Hate this f'ng device. It does nearly everything the iphone does, just with 1000x more frustration. Too bad I'm too late to buy Yeti's awesome phone.
Quote from: BH on March 24, 2011, 02:54:03 PM
True story. Switched from iphone (2nd gen) on ATT in chicago (reception blew) to sprint. Decided to go cheap, with a blackberry.
Been about 5 months. Plan is nice and cheap. Canceling service, going back to iphones. Hate this f'ng device. It does nearly everything the iphone does, just with 1000x more frustration. Too bad I'm too late to buy Yeti's awesome phone.
Yea. It's already enroute to the Philippines. Sorry duder. Maybe next time. I'm sure I'll be replacing the thunderbolt in a few months
Quote from: Yeti on March 24, 2011, 03:00:57 PM
Quote from: BH on March 24, 2011, 02:54:03 PM
True story. Switched from iphone (2nd gen) on ATT in chicago (reception blew) to sprint. Decided to go cheap, with a blackberry.
Been about 5 months. Plan is nice and cheap. Canceling service, going back to iphones. Hate this f'ng device. It does nearly everything the iphone does, just with 1000x more frustration. Too bad I'm too late to buy Yeti's awesome phone.
Yea. It's already enroute to the Philippines. Sorry duder. Maybe next time. I'm sure I'll be replacing the thunderbolt in a few months
Hopefully the sync between the phone and your laptop exceeds your wildest expectations.
Hawk - let me know if you want dibs on my blackberry... might be time to upgrade your starTAC.
Quote from: BH on March 24, 2011, 03:06:53 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 24, 2011, 03:00:57 PM
Quote from: BH on March 24, 2011, 02:54:03 PM
True story. Switched from iphone (2nd gen) on ATT in chicago (reception blew) to sprint. Decided to go cheap, with a blackberry.
Been about 5 months. Plan is nice and cheap. Canceling service, going back to iphones. Hate this f'ng device. It does nearly everything the iphone does, just with 1000x more frustration. Too bad I'm too late to buy Yeti's awesome phone.
Yea. It's already enroute to the Philippines. Sorry duder. Maybe next time. I'm sure I'll be replacing the thunderbolt in a few months
Hopefully the sync between the phone and your laptop exceeds your wildest expectations.
Hawk - let me know if you want dibs on my blackberry... might be time to upgrade your starTAC.
Both my WALKMAN and blueberry have been consigned to the dustbin of history (top desk drawer actually). My baseball will be broadcast through MLB'11 this year.
You'll be buying cheaper with the Ver/ATT subsidy anyway. General rumor is the next iPhone will have the same form, have a 4" screen, use the faster ipad 2 chip and be out in June/July if you care
Quote from: thehawk on March 25, 2011, 07:09:33 AM
Quote from: BH on March 24, 2011, 03:06:53 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 24, 2011, 03:00:57 PM
Quote from: BH on March 24, 2011, 02:54:03 PM
True story. Switched from iphone (2nd gen) on ATT in chicago (reception blew) to sprint. Decided to go cheap, with a blackberry.
Been about 5 months. Plan is nice and cheap. Canceling service, going back to iphones. Hate this f'ng device. It does nearly everything the iphone does, just with 1000x more frustration. Too bad I'm too late to buy Yeti's awesome phone.
Yea. It's already enroute to the Philippines. Sorry duder. Maybe next time. I'm sure I'll be replacing the thunderbolt in a few months
Hopefully the sync between the phone and your laptop exceeds your wildest expectations.
Hawk - let me know if you want dibs on my blackberry... might be time to upgrade your starTAC.
Both my WALKMAN and blueberry have been consigned to the dustbin of history (top desk drawer actually). My baseball will be broadcast through MLB'11 this year.
You'll be buying cheaper with the Ver/ATT subsidy anyway. General rumor is the next iPhone will have the same form, have a 4" screen, use the faster ipad 2 chip and be out in June/July if you care
That's all fine and dandy, but how much will Yeti have to pay to break one and then resell it to a minority after he tries to rip off his internet friends that know it's already broken?
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 25, 2011, 07:26:49 AM
Quote from: thehawk on March 25, 2011, 07:09:33 AM
Quote from: BH on March 24, 2011, 03:06:53 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 24, 2011, 03:00:57 PM
Quote from: BH on March 24, 2011, 02:54:03 PM
True story. Switched from iphone (2nd gen) on ATT in chicago (reception blew) to sprint. Decided to go cheap, with a blackberry.
Been about 5 months. Plan is nice and cheap. Canceling service, going back to iphones. Hate this f'ng device. It does nearly everything the iphone does, just with 1000x more frustration. Too bad I'm too late to buy Yeti's awesome phone.
Yea. It's already enroute to the Philippines. Sorry duder. Maybe next time. I'm sure I'll be replacing the thunderbolt in a few months
Hopefully the sync between the phone and your laptop exceeds your wildest expectations.
Hawk - let me know if you want dibs on my blackberry... might be time to upgrade your starTAC.
Both my WALKMAN and blueberry have been consigned to the dustbin of history (top desk drawer actually). My baseball will be broadcast through MLB'11 this year.
You'll be buying cheaper with the Ver/ATT subsidy anyway. General rumor is the next iPhone will have the same form, have a 4" screen, use the faster ipad 2 chip and be out in June/July if you care
That's all fine and dandy, but how much will Yeti have to pay to break one and then resell it to a minority after he tries to rip off his internet friends that know it's already broken?
I don't think Filipinos are considered a minority in the Philippines.
Quote from: CT III on March 25, 2011, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 25, 2011, 07:26:49 AM
Quote from: thehawk on March 25, 2011, 07:09:33 AM
Quote from: BH on March 24, 2011, 03:06:53 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 24, 2011, 03:00:57 PM
Quote from: BH on March 24, 2011, 02:54:03 PM
True story. Switched from iphone (2nd gen) on ATT in chicago (reception blew) to sprint. Decided to go cheap, with a blackberry.
Been about 5 months. Plan is nice and cheap. Canceling service, going back to iphones. Hate this f'ng device. It does nearly everything the iphone does, just with 1000x more frustration. Too bad I'm too late to buy Yeti's awesome phone.
Yea. It's already enroute to the Philippines. Sorry duder. Maybe next time. I'm sure I'll be replacing the thunderbolt in a few months
Hopefully the sync between the phone and your laptop exceeds your wildest expectations.
Hawk - let me know if you want dibs on my blackberry... might be time to upgrade your starTAC.
Both my WALKMAN and blueberry have been consigned to the dustbin of history (top desk drawer actually). My baseball will be broadcast through MLB'11 this year.
You'll be buying cheaper with the Ver/ATT subsidy anyway. General rumor is the next iPhone will have the same form, have a 4" screen, use the faster ipad 2 chip and be out in June/July if you care
That's all fine and dandy, but how much will Yeti have to pay to break one and then resell it to a minority after he tries to rip off his internet friends that know it's already broken?
I don't think Filipinos are considered a minority in the Philippines.
I think he really meant to type "minor".
Apple is causing me extreme cognitive dissonance. I love them, and yet I hate them. I feel like an abuse victim who keeps coming back for more. My extremely expensive MacBook Pro (which is itself a replacement, because they were unable to fix chronic flickering issues on the original) loses internet connectivity constantly. Not connectivity to my network, just to the internet. A six day software "fix" did nothing. A six day hardware fix also did nothing, but that time, they replaced it with a higher resolution monitor that was not originally an option on my machine. I asked if that would be a problem They said no, shut up and be happy with your upgrade. Cut to the display going black on multiple occasions, with no way to bring it back short of forcing a restart with the power button. Then, they replaced it with a display of the original resolution -- and that display went black. So now there have been three round trips to the Apple Store, most with my three month old baby. Today was spent creating a new partition and installing the OS to see if it would happen on a clean partition. Guess what? It would. No idea what happens now, but obviously, this drama is not close to over.
I have personally inspired the purchase of at least two Macs and five iPhones by friends. Thankfully, none of those people have had issues like I am having, but I am seriously ready to pull out my hair. I am one of those people who wanted to throw up at that article from a few weeks ago, showing how much you would be worth had you bought Apple stock instead of Apple products. Yet, I know I won't switch away from Apple. There's really no alternative, once you've bought in to the ecosystem. I mean, how cool is it that I could stream music from my phone to my stereo when my computer (and thus my music library) was in the shop? And has anyone ever used the "floating" screensaver on their Apple TV? I mean, come on, that is just cool.
See what I mean?
Quote from: smg on March 28, 2011, 09:56:29 PM
Apple is causing me extreme cognitive dissonance. I love them, and yet I hate them. I feel like an abuse victim who keeps coming back for more. My extremely expensive MacBook Pro (which is itself a replacement, because they were unable to fix chronic flickering issues on the original) loses internet connectivity constantly. Not connectivity to my network, just to the internet. A six day software "fix" did nothing. A six day hardware fix also did nothing, but that time, they replaced it with a higher resolution monitor that was not originally an option on my machine. I asked if that would be a problem They said no, shut up and be happy with your upgrade. Cut to the display going black on multiple occasions, with no way to bring it back short of forcing a restart with the power button. Then, they replaced it with a display of the original resolution -- and that display went black. So now there have been three round trips to the Apple Store, most with my three month old baby. Today was spent creating a new partition and installing the OS to see if it would happen on a clean partition. Guess what? It would. No idea what happens now, but obviously, this drama is not close to over.
I have personally inspired the purchase of at least two Macs and five iPhones by friends. Thankfully, none of those people have had issues like I am having, but I am seriously ready to pull out my hair. I am one of those people who wanted to throw up at that article from a few weeks ago, showing how much you would be worth had you bought Apple stock instead of Apple products. Yet, I know I won't switch away from Apple. There's really no alternative, once you've bought in to the ecosystem. I mean, how cool is it that I could stream music from my phone to my stereo when my computer (and thus my music library) was in the shop? And has anyone ever used the "floating" screensaver on their Apple TV? I mean, come on, that is just cool.
See what I mean?
Ouch, sorry to hear that. The display problem sounds like it might require a logic board replacement. Failing that, possibly graphics card. Swapping out the display didn't fix it so we can rule that out, and it must not be a software problem if it happened on multiple installs. I once had a flickering issue that was corrected when I disassembled the entire computer to find that a video cable connector had come partially loose from the logic board. I've also had a bizarre display problem with a MacBook Pro where horizontal lines and psychedelic colors filled the lower half of the display, and it would sometimes go away with a slap of the top bezel. A logic board replacement fixed that one. I'm assuming the PRAM, SMC, and NVRAM have all been reset on yours already?
A logic board replacement might correct the network connectivity issue also, although that could be a multitude of things. Do other devices have problems maintaining an internet connection? Have you been in touch with your ISP to make sure you have connectivity? In the past I've had problems with my ISP not properly assigning IP addresses, which required a router replacement. My problem sounds identical to yours. I'd suggest the AirPort hardware itself (both the card and the antenna) and your network's router/settings/ISP combo as the prime suspects.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 28, 2011, 10:39:41 PM
Ouch, sorry to hear that. The display problem sounds like it might require a logic board replacement. Failing that, possibly graphics card. Swapping out the display didn't fix it so we can rule that out, and it must not be a software problem if it happened on multiple installs. I once had a flickering issue that was corrected when I disassembled the entire computer to find that a video cable connector had come partially loose from the logic board. I've also had a bizarre display problem with a MacBook Pro where horizontal lines and psychedelic colors filled the lower half of the display, and it would sometimes go away with a slap of the top bezel. A logic board replacement fixed that one. I'm assuming the PRAM, SMC, and NVRAM have all been reset on yours already?
A logic board replacement might correct the network connectivity issue also, although that could be a multitude of things. Do other devices have problems maintaining an internet connection? Have you been in touch with your ISP to make sure you have connectivity? In the past I've had problems with my ISP not properly assigning IP addresses, which required a router replacement. My problem sounds identical to yours. I'd suggest the AirPort hardware itself (both the card and the antenna) and your network's router/settings/ISP combo as the prime suspects.
The logic board is new, as they replaced it with the display -- and they only replaced the display because that is apparently where the networking hardware is. Personally, I really did not believe it was a software problem, given that the first time it ever happened was immediately after a massive hardware swap, but I know you have to go through all the troubleshooting stuff. The internet issue is much better, but that is due to my googling skills, and not any of the umpteen "repairs". I changed the Airport settings to assign a DHCP address manually, and then chose a number that was outside of the range that the router would have automatically assigned. Since then (and it's been about 4 or 5 days of heavy use), I've noticed the connection fail only once.
Yes, other clients work and the ISP has been ruled out. In fact, this started right around when my baby was born, and I assumed it was Comcast's fault (aren't all bad things?). I had them out here when the baby was feeding around the clock and I was out of my mind exhausted, and they insisted their service wasn't to blame (there's a first time for everything), and then re-set up my wiring which I did not appreciate, and also replaced my splitter without telling me, which resulted in a worse signal. So that was fun. Then, I troubleshot the router. No change. Then, by coincidence, the power supply of the router failed and Apple replaced it. Still no change. Then, it finally occurred to me to see if other wifi clients were losing their connection when the laptop was, and they weren't. So by then, I was fully satisfied that it was the laptop's fault, but Apple wasn't. Vendors LOVE networking issues. They can blame the ISP. The router. The neighbor's microwave. The baby monitor. Anything but their own machine.
In any event, the card and the antenna and the logic board have all been replaced, as has the router. The dude I was talking to today is supposed to call back tomorrow. He agrees that Apple should be offering a solution other than returning to the store for the 4th time and dealing with the snotty Genius Bar manager. ("We don't think it is the hardware, but we swapped it out to make you feel better.")
More then you wanted to know?
Quote from: smg on March 28, 2011, 11:33:43 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 28, 2011, 10:39:41 PM
Ouch, sorry to hear that. The display problem sounds like it might require a logic board replacement. Failing that, possibly graphics card. Swapping out the display didn't fix it so we can rule that out, and it must not be a software problem if it happened on multiple installs. I once had a flickering issue that was corrected when I disassembled the entire computer to find that a video cable connector had come partially loose from the logic board. I've also had a bizarre display problem with a MacBook Pro where horizontal lines and psychedelic colors filled the lower half of the display, and it would sometimes go away with a slap of the top bezel. A logic board replacement fixed that one. I'm assuming the PRAM, SMC, and NVRAM have all been reset on yours already?
A logic board replacement might correct the network connectivity issue also, although that could be a multitude of things. Do other devices have problems maintaining an internet connection? Have you been in touch with your ISP to make sure you have connectivity? In the past I've had problems with my ISP not properly assigning IP addresses, which required a router replacement. My problem sounds identical to yours. I'd suggest the AirPort hardware itself (both the card and the antenna) and your network's router/settings/ISP combo as the prime suspects.
The logic board is new, as they replaced it with the display -- and they only replaced the display because that is apparently where the networking hardware is. Personally, I really did not believe it was a software problem, given that the first time it ever happened was immediately after a massive hardware swap, but I know you have to go through all the troubleshooting stuff. The internet issue is much better, but that is due to my googling skills, and not any of the umpteen "repairs". I changed the Airport settings to assign a DHCP address manually, and then chose a number that was outside of the range that the router would have automatically assigned. Since then (and it's been about 4 or 5 days of heavy use), I've noticed the connection fail only once.
Yes, other clients work and the ISP has been ruled out. In fact, this started right around when my baby was born, and I assumed it was Comcast's fault (aren't all bad things?). I had them out here when the baby was feeding around the clock and I was out of my mind exhausted, and they insisted their service wasn't to blame (there's a first time for everything), and then re-set up my wiring which I did not appreciate, and also replaced my splitter without telling me, which resulted in a worse signal. So that was fun. Then, I troubleshot the router. No change. Then, by coincidence, the power supply of the router failed and Apple replaced it. Still no change. Then, it finally occurred to me to see if other wifi clients were losing their connection when the laptop was, and they weren't. So by then, I was fully satisfied that it was the laptop's fault, but Apple wasn't. Vendors LOVE networking issues. They can blame the ISP. The router. The neighbor's microwave. The baby monitor. Anything but their own machine.
In any event, the card and the antenna and the logic board have all been replaced, as has the router. The dude I was talking to today is supposed to call back tomorrow. He agrees that Apple should be offering a solution other than returning to the store for the 4th time and dealing with the snotty Genius Bar manager. ("We don't think it is the hardware, but we swapped it out to make you feel better.")
More then you wanted to know?
The wireless antenna is concealed within the bezel surrounding the display. Maybe it's all one piece that can't be swapped out separately with the new models, but that seems quite inefficient. What about the graphics card then, on the display issue?
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 28, 2011, 11:43:24 PM
Quote from: smg on March 28, 2011, 11:33:43 PM
The logic board is new, as they replaced it with the display -- and they only replaced the display because that is apparently where the networking hardware is. Personally, I really did not believe it was a software problem, given that the first time it ever happened was immediately after a massive hardware swap, but I know you have to go through all the troubleshooting stuff. The internet issue is much better, but that is due to my googling skills, and not any of the umpteen "repairs". I changed the Airport settings to assign a DHCP address manually, and then chose a number that was outside of the range that the router would have automatically assigned. Since then (and it's been about 4 or 5 days of heavy use), I've noticed the connection fail only once.
Yes, other clients work and the ISP has been ruled out. In fact, this started right around when my baby was born, and I assumed it was Comcast's fault (aren't all bad things?). I had them out here when the baby was feeding around the clock and I was out of my mind exhausted, and they insisted their service wasn't to blame (there's a first time for everything), and then re-set up my wiring which I did not appreciate, and also replaced my splitter without telling me, which resulted in a worse signal. So that was fun. Then, I troubleshot the router. No change. Then, by coincidence, the power supply of the router failed and Apple replaced it. Still no change. Then, it finally occurred to me to see if other wifi clients were losing their connection when the laptop was, and they weren't. So by then, I was fully satisfied that it was the laptop's fault, but Apple wasn't. Vendors LOVE networking issues. They can blame the ISP. The router. The neighbor's microwave. The baby monitor. Anything but their own machine.
In any event, the card and the antenna and the logic board have all been replaced, as has the router. The dude I was talking to today is supposed to call back tomorrow. He agrees that Apple should be offering a solution other than returning to the store for the 4th time and dealing with the snotty Genius Bar manager. ("We don't think it is the hardware, but we swapped it out to make you feel better.")
More then you wanted to know?
The wireless antenna is concealed within the bezel surrounding the display. Maybe it's all one piece that can't be swapped out separately with the new models, but that seems quite inefficient. What about the graphics card then, on the display issue?
They didn't check for it when it first failed, they just re-swapped the display. I've informed my advisor that I am looking for a solution other than "just bring it back to the Apple Store" and he agreed, so we'll see what happens today, now that he knows that the display failed on the new OS install.
Quote from: smg on March 29, 2011, 09:46:17 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 28, 2011, 11:43:24 PM
Quote from: smg on March 28, 2011, 11:33:43 PM
The logic board is new, as they replaced it with the display -- and they only replaced the display because that is apparently where the networking hardware is. Personally, I really did not believe it was a software problem, given that the first time it ever happened was immediately after a massive hardware swap, but I know you have to go through all the troubleshooting stuff. The internet issue is much better, but that is due to my googling skills, and not any of the umpteen "repairs". I changed the Airport settings to assign a DHCP address manually, and then chose a number that was outside of the range that the router would have automatically assigned. Since then (and it's been about 4 or 5 days of heavy use), I've noticed the connection fail only once.
Yes, other clients work and the ISP has been ruled out. In fact, this started right around when my baby was born, and I assumed it was Comcast's fault (aren't all bad things?). I had them out here when the baby was feeding around the clock and I was out of my mind exhausted, and they insisted their service wasn't to blame (there's a first time for everything), and then re-set up my wiring which I did not appreciate, and also replaced my splitter without telling me, which resulted in a worse signal. So that was fun. Then, I troubleshot the router. No change. Then, by coincidence, the power supply of the router failed and Apple replaced it. Still no change. Then, it finally occurred to me to see if other wifi clients were losing their connection when the laptop was, and they weren't. So by then, I was fully satisfied that it was the laptop's fault, but Apple wasn't. Vendors LOVE networking issues. They can blame the ISP. The router. The neighbor's microwave. The baby monitor. Anything but their own machine.
In any event, the card and the antenna and the logic board have all been replaced, as has the router. The dude I was talking to today is supposed to call back tomorrow. He agrees that Apple should be offering a solution other than returning to the store for the 4th time and dealing with the snotty Genius Bar manager. ("We don't think it is the hardware, but we swapped it out to make you feel better.")
More then you wanted to know?
The wireless antenna is concealed within the bezel surrounding the display. Maybe it's all one piece that can't be swapped out separately with the new models, but that seems quite inefficient. What about the graphics card then, on the display issue?
They didn't check for it when it first failed, they just re-swapped the display. I've informed my advisor that I am looking for a solution other than "just bring it back to the Apple Store" and he agreed, so we'll see what happens today, now that he knows that the display failed on the new OS install.
Keep me posted.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 29, 2011, 10:38:59 AM
Quote from: smg on March 29, 2011, 09:46:17 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 28, 2011, 11:43:24 PM
Quote from: smg on March 28, 2011, 11:33:43 PM
The logic board is new, as they replaced it with the display -- and they only replaced the display because that is apparently where the networking hardware is. Personally, I really did not believe it was a software problem, given that the first time it ever happened was immediately after a massive hardware swap, but I know you have to go through all the troubleshooting stuff. The internet issue is much better, but that is due to my googling skills, and not any of the umpteen "repairs". I changed the Airport settings to assign a DHCP address manually, and then chose a number that was outside of the range that the router would have automatically assigned. Since then (and it's been about 4 or 5 days of heavy use), I've noticed the connection fail only once.
Yes, other clients work and the ISP has been ruled out. In fact, this started right around when my baby was born, and I assumed it was Comcast's fault (aren't all bad things?). I had them out here when the baby was feeding around the clock and I was out of my mind exhausted, and they insisted their service wasn't to blame (there's a first time for everything), and then re-set up my wiring which I did not appreciate, and also replaced my splitter without telling me, which resulted in a worse signal. So that was fun. Then, I troubleshot the router. No change. Then, by coincidence, the power supply of the router failed and Apple replaced it. Still no change. Then, it finally occurred to me to see if other wifi clients were losing their connection when the laptop was, and they weren't. So by then, I was fully satisfied that it was the laptop's fault, but Apple wasn't. Vendors LOVE networking issues. They can blame the ISP. The router. The neighbor's microwave. The baby monitor. Anything but their own machine.
In any event, the card and the antenna and the logic board have all been replaced, as has the router. The dude I was talking to today is supposed to call back tomorrow. He agrees that Apple should be offering a solution other than returning to the store for the 4th time and dealing with the snotty Genius Bar manager. ("We don't think it is the hardware, but we swapped it out to make you feel better.")
More then you wanted to know?
The wireless antenna is concealed within the bezel surrounding the display. Maybe it's all one piece that can't be swapped out separately with the new models, but that seems quite inefficient. What about the graphics card then, on the display issue?
They didn't check for it when it first failed, they just re-swapped the display. I've informed my advisor that I am looking for a solution other than "just bring it back to the Apple Store" and he agreed, so we'll see what happens today, now that he knows that the display failed on the new OS install.
Keep me posted.
Worst case scenario - you could put it up for sale on desipio. Then try to sell it to yeti. Profit.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 29, 2011, 10:38:59 AM
Quote from: smg on March 29, 2011, 09:46:17 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 28, 2011, 11:43:24 PM
Quote from: smg on March 28, 2011, 11:33:43 PM
The logic board is new, as they replaced it with the display -- and they only replaced the display because that is apparently where the networking hardware is. Personally, I really did not believe it was a software problem, given that the first time it ever happened was immediately after a massive hardware swap, but I know you have to go through all the troubleshooting stuff. The internet issue is much better, but that is due to my googling skills, and not any of the umpteen "repairs". I changed the Airport settings to assign a DHCP address manually, and then chose a number that was outside of the range that the router would have automatically assigned. Since then (and it's been about 4 or 5 days of heavy use), I've noticed the connection fail only once.
Yes, other clients work and the ISP has been ruled out. In fact, this started right around when my baby was born, and I assumed it was Comcast's fault (aren't all bad things?). I had them out here when the baby was feeding around the clock and I was out of my mind exhausted, and they insisted their service wasn't to blame (there's a first time for everything), and then re-set up my wiring which I did not appreciate, and also replaced my splitter without telling me, which resulted in a worse signal. So that was fun. Then, I troubleshot the router. No change. Then, by coincidence, the power supply of the router failed and Apple replaced it. Still no change. Then, it finally occurred to me to see if other wifi clients were losing their connection when the laptop was, and they weren't. So by then, I was fully satisfied that it was the laptop's fault, but Apple wasn't. Vendors LOVE networking issues. They can blame the ISP. The router. The neighbor's microwave. The baby monitor. Anything but their own machine.
In any event, the card and the antenna and the logic board have all been replaced, as has the router. The dude I was talking to today is supposed to call back tomorrow. He agrees that Apple should be offering a solution other than returning to the store for the 4th time and dealing with the snotty Genius Bar manager. ("We don't think it is the hardware, but we swapped it out to make you feel better.")
More then you wanted to know?
The wireless antenna is concealed within the bezel surrounding the display. Maybe it's all one piece that can't be swapped out separately with the new models, but that seems quite inefficient. What about the graphics card then, on the display issue?
They didn't check for it when it first failed, they just re-swapped the display. I've informed my advisor that I am looking for a solution other than "just bring it back to the Apple Store" and he agreed, so we'll see what happens today, now that he knows that the display failed on the new OS install.
Keep me posted.
Apple is replacing the computer. Score.
Quote from: smg on March 29, 2011, 12:24:27 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 29, 2011, 10:38:59 AM
Quote from: smg on March 29, 2011, 09:46:17 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 28, 2011, 11:43:24 PM
Quote from: smg on March 28, 2011, 11:33:43 PM
The logic board is new, as they replaced it with the display -- and they only replaced the display because that is apparently where the networking hardware is. Personally, I really did not believe it was a software problem, given that the first time it ever happened was immediately after a massive hardware swap, but I know you have to go through all the troubleshooting stuff. The internet issue is much better, but that is due to my googling skills, and not any of the umpteen "repairs". I changed the Airport settings to assign a DHCP address manually, and then chose a number that was outside of the range that the router would have automatically assigned. Since then (and it's been about 4 or 5 days of heavy use), I've noticed the connection fail only once.
Yes, other clients work and the ISP has been ruled out. In fact, this started right around when my baby was born, and I assumed it was Comcast's fault (aren't all bad things?). I had them out here when the baby was feeding around the clock and I was out of my mind exhausted, and they insisted their service wasn't to blame (there's a first time for everything), and then re-set up my wiring which I did not appreciate, and also replaced my splitter without telling me, which resulted in a worse signal. So that was fun. Then, I troubleshot the router. No change. Then, by coincidence, the power supply of the router failed and Apple replaced it. Still no change. Then, it finally occurred to me to see if other wifi clients were losing their connection when the laptop was, and they weren't. So by then, I was fully satisfied that it was the laptop's fault, but Apple wasn't. Vendors LOVE networking issues. They can blame the ISP. The router. The neighbor's microwave. The baby monitor. Anything but their own machine.
In any event, the card and the antenna and the logic board have all been replaced, as has the router. The dude I was talking to today is supposed to call back tomorrow. He agrees that Apple should be offering a solution other than returning to the store for the 4th time and dealing with the snotty Genius Bar manager. ("We don't think it is the hardware, but we swapped it out to make you feel better.")
More then you wanted to know?
The wireless antenna is concealed within the bezel surrounding the display. Maybe it's all one piece that can't be swapped out separately with the new models, but that seems quite inefficient. What about the graphics card then, on the display issue?
They didn't check for it when it first failed, they just re-swapped the display. I've informed my advisor that I am looking for a solution other than "just bring it back to the Apple Store" and he agreed, so we'll see what happens today, now that he knows that the display failed on the new OS install.
Keep me posted.
Apple is replacing the computer. Score.
Let's celebrate
Quote from: smg on March 29, 2011, 12:24:27 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 29, 2011, 10:38:59 AM
Quote from: smg on March 29, 2011, 09:46:17 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 28, 2011, 11:43:24 PM
Quote from: smg on March 28, 2011, 11:33:43 PM
The logic board is new, as they replaced it with the display -- and they only replaced the display because that is apparently where the networking hardware is. Personally, I really did not believe it was a software problem, given that the first time it ever happened was immediately after a massive hardware swap, but I know you have to go through all the troubleshooting stuff. The internet issue is much better, but that is due to my googling skills, and not any of the umpteen "repairs". I changed the Airport settings to assign a DHCP address manually, and then chose a number that was outside of the range that the router would have automatically assigned. Since then (and it's been about 4 or 5 days of heavy use), I've noticed the connection fail only once.
Yes, other clients work and the ISP has been ruled out. In fact, this started right around when my baby was born, and I assumed it was Comcast's fault (aren't all bad things?). I had them out here when the baby was feeding around the clock and I was out of my mind exhausted, and they insisted their service wasn't to blame (there's a first time for everything), and then re-set up my wiring which I did not appreciate, and also replaced my splitter without telling me, which resulted in a worse signal. So that was fun. Then, I troubleshot the router. No change. Then, by coincidence, the power supply of the router failed and Apple replaced it. Still no change. Then, it finally occurred to me to see if other wifi clients were losing their connection when the laptop was, and they weren't. So by then, I was fully satisfied that it was the laptop's fault, but Apple wasn't. Vendors LOVE networking issues. They can blame the ISP. The router. The neighbor's microwave. The baby monitor. Anything but their own machine.
In any event, the card and the antenna and the logic board have all been replaced, as has the router. The dude I was talking to today is supposed to call back tomorrow. He agrees that Apple should be offering a solution other than returning to the store for the 4th time and dealing with the snotty Genius Bar manager. ("We don't think it is the hardware, but we swapped it out to make you feel better.")
More then you wanted to know?
The wireless antenna is concealed within the bezel surrounding the display. Maybe it's all one piece that can't be swapped out separately with the new models, but that seems quite inefficient. What about the graphics card then, on the display issue?
They didn't check for it when it first failed, they just re-swapped the display. I've informed my advisor that I am looking for a solution other than "just bring it back to the Apple Store" and he agreed, so we'll see what happens today, now that he knows that the display failed on the new OS install.
Keep me posted.
Apple is replacing the computer. Score.
Under warranty or out of warranty?
Under warranty. I have AppleCare. It's pretty sweet -- a new, current machine, so it is an upgrade. And they allow you to pay extra to customize if you choose, and they will also refund a pro-rated amount of the AppleCare and allow me to buy a new AppleCare.
Quote from: smg on March 29, 2011, 02:54:44 PM
Under warranty. I have AppleCare. It's pretty sweet -- a new, current machine, so it is an upgrade. And they allow you to pay extra to customize if you choose, and they will also refund a pro-rated amount of the AppleCare and allow me to buy a new AppleCare.
Jackpot. Glad they're making it right for you.
Quote from: smg on March 29, 2011, 02:54:44 PM
Under warranty. I have AppleCare. It's pretty sweet -- a new, current machine, so it is an upgrade. And they allow you to pay extra to customize if you choose, and they will also refund a pro-rated amount of the AppleCare and allow me to buy a new AppleCare.
Have an extra grand on hand to upgrade to the SSD?
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 29, 2011, 03:08:48 PM
Quote from: smg on March 29, 2011, 02:54:44 PM
Under warranty. I have AppleCare. It's pretty sweet -- a new, current machine, so it is an upgrade. And they allow you to pay extra to customize if you choose, and they will also refund a pro-rated amount of the AppleCare and allow me to buy a new AppleCare.
Jackpot. Glad they're making it right for you.
Why don't you two just get a room already?
Quote from: PenPho on March 29, 2011, 04:28:42 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 29, 2011, 03:08:48 PM
Quote from: smg on March 29, 2011, 02:54:44 PM
Under warranty. I have AppleCare. It's pretty sweet -- a new, current machine, so it is an upgrade. And they allow you to pay extra to customize if you choose, and they will also refund a pro-rated amount of the AppleCare and allow me to buy a new AppleCare.
Jackpot. Glad they're making it right for you.
Why don't you two just get a room already?
(http://i.imgur.com/AOzLD.jpg)
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 29, 2011, 05:09:58 PM
Quote from: PenPho on March 29, 2011, 04:28:42 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 29, 2011, 03:08:48 PM
Quote from: smg on March 29, 2011, 02:54:44 PM
Under warranty. I have AppleCare. It's pretty sweet -- a new, current machine, so it is an upgrade. And they allow you to pay extra to customize if you choose, and they will also refund a pro-rated amount of the AppleCare and allow me to buy a new AppleCare.
Jackpot. Glad they're making it right for you.
Why don't you two just get a room already?
(http://i.imgur.com/AOzLD.jpg)
Reminds me of one of my early works...
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3247/2650678274_64baf177f7_z.jpg)
Quote from: morpheus on March 30, 2011, 08:50:45 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 29, 2011, 05:09:58 PM
Quote from: PenPho on March 29, 2011, 04:28:42 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 29, 2011, 03:08:48 PM
Quote from: smg on March 29, 2011, 02:54:44 PM
Under warranty. I have AppleCare. It's pretty sweet -- a new, current machine, so it is an upgrade. And they allow you to pay extra to customize if you choose, and they will also refund a pro-rated amount of the AppleCare and allow me to buy a new AppleCare.
Jackpot. Glad they're making it right for you.
Why don't you two just get a room already?
(http://i.imgur.com/AOzLD.jpg)
Reminds me of one of my early works...
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3247/2650678274_64baf177f7_z.jpg)
The Ribs Kid is the best.
Quote from: BH on March 30, 2011, 09:33:47 AM
Quote from: morpheus on March 30, 2011, 08:50:45 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 29, 2011, 05:09:58 PM
Quote from: PenPho on March 29, 2011, 04:28:42 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 29, 2011, 03:08:48 PM
Quote from: smg on March 29, 2011, 02:54:44 PM
Under warranty. I have AppleCare. It's pretty sweet -- a new, current machine, so it is an upgrade. And they allow you to pay extra to customize if you choose, and they will also refund a pro-rated amount of the AppleCare and allow me to buy a new AppleCare.
Jackpot. Glad they're making it right for you.
Why don't you two just get a room already?
(http://i.imgur.com/AOzLD.jpg)
Reminds me of one of my early works...
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3247/2650678274_64baf177f7_z.jpg)
The Ribs Kid is the best.
Better than SPORTS??? Doubt it guitar boy.
Better than NEGRON SPORTS??? Definitely not.
No new iPhone in June.
http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/04/05/iphone-5-will-not-launch-in-june/
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 05, 2011, 12:36:24 PM
No new iPhone in June.
http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/04/05/iphone-5-will-not-launch-in-june/
"My sources said today that rumors of an iPhone 5 release at the end of June were completely false.
The rumor started on a Korean site, translated by MacRumors, and that Apple had confirmed the news. "
That's too bad, his sources sound very good.
Quote from: BH on April 05, 2011, 01:18:09 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 05, 2011, 12:36:24 PM
No new iPhone in June.
http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/04/05/iphone-5-will-not-launch-in-june/
"My sources said today that rumors of an iPhone 5 release at the end of June were completely false.
The rumor started on a Korean site, translated by MacRumors, and that Apple had confirmed the news. "
That's too bad, his sources sound very good.
By which you mean his sources (presumably at Apple)
refuting this story from a Korean news site that claims that Apple has confirmed a late June release date?
Or did you misread that?
At any rate, the release of the next iPhone is now apparently rumored to be August or September, the change from their traditional summer release possibly related to this...
http://www.9to5mac.com/59019/howard-stringer-says-sony-image-sensors-delayed-for-apples-ipad/
QuoteI'm here watching Walt Mossberg talk to Sony's CEO, Sir Howard Stringer. Stringer just said that their camera image sensor facility in Sendai was affected by the recent tsunami/quake. In the next breath, he said something to the effect of getting image sensors to companies like Apple will be delayed.
...
The Street reported in April 2010 that the fifth generation iPhone would pack an 8 megapixel camera from Sony. The same report correctly predicted a 5 megapixel sensor for the iPhone 4. Perhaps Stringer's comment is evidence that the next-generation iPhone will have an 8 megapixel camera. Boom.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 05, 2011, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: BH on April 05, 2011, 01:18:09 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 05, 2011, 12:36:24 PM
No new iPhone in June.
http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/04/05/iphone-5-will-not-launch-in-june/
"My sources said today that rumors of an iPhone 5 release at the end of June were completely false.
The rumor started on a Korean site, translated by MacRumors, and that Apple had confirmed the news. "
That's too bad, his sources sound very good.
By which you mean his sources (presumably at Apple) refuting this story from a Korean news site that claims that Apple has confirmed a late June release date?
Or did you misread that?
At any rate, the release of the next iPhone is now apparently rumored to be August or September, the change from their traditional summer release possibly related to this...
http://www.9to5mac.com/59019/howard-stringer-says-sony-image-sensors-delayed-for-apples-ipad/
QuoteI'm here watching Walt Mossberg talk to Sony's CEO, Sir Howard Stringer. Stringer just said that their camera image sensor facility in Sendai was affected by the recent tsunami/quake. In the next breath, he said something to the effect of getting image sensors to companies like Apple will be delayed.
...
The Street reported in April 2010 that the fifth generation iPhone would pack an 8 megapixel camera from Sony. The same report correctly predicted a 5 megapixel sensor for the iPhone 4. Perhaps Stringer's comment is evidence that the next-generation iPhone will have an 8 megapixel camera. Boom.
No need to get asshurt, Tank.
Quote from: CT III on April 05, 2011, 01:42:58 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 05, 2011, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: BH on April 05, 2011, 01:18:09 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 05, 2011, 12:36:24 PM
No new iPhone in June.
http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/04/05/iphone-5-will-not-launch-in-june/
"My sources said today that rumors of an iPhone 5 release at the end of June were completely false.
The rumor started on a Korean site, translated by MacRumors, and that Apple had confirmed the news. "
That's too bad, his sources sound very good.
By which you mean his sources (presumably at Apple) refuting this story from a Korean news site that claims that Apple has confirmed a late June release date?
Or did you misread that?
At any rate, the release of the next iPhone is now apparently rumored to be August or September, the change from their traditional summer release possibly related to this...
http://www.9to5mac.com/59019/howard-stringer-says-sony-image-sensors-delayed-for-apples-ipad/
QuoteI'm here watching Walt Mossberg talk to Sony's CEO, Sir Howard Stringer. Stringer just said that their camera image sensor facility in Sendai was affected by the recent tsunami/quake. In the next breath, he said something to the effect of getting image sensors to companies like Apple will be delayed.
...
The Street reported in April 2010 that the fifth generation iPhone would pack an 8 megapixel camera from Sony. The same report correctly predicted a 5 megapixel sensor for the iPhone 4. Perhaps Stringer's comment is evidence that the next-generation iPhone will have an 8 megapixel camera. Boom.
No need to get asshurt, Tank.
Sports.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 05, 2011, 01:44:01 PM
Quote from: CT III on April 05, 2011, 01:42:58 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 05, 2011, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: BH on April 05, 2011, 01:18:09 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 05, 2011, 12:36:24 PM
No new iPhone in June.
http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/04/05/iphone-5-will-not-launch-in-june/
"My sources said today that rumors of an iPhone 5 release at the end of June were completely false.
The rumor started on a Korean site, translated by MacRumors, and that Apple had confirmed the news. "
That's too bad, his sources sound very good.
By which you mean his sources (presumably at Apple) refuting this story from a Korean news site that claims that Apple has confirmed a late June release date?
Or did you misread that?
At any rate, the release of the next iPhone is now apparently rumored to be August or September, the change from their traditional summer release possibly related to this...
http://www.9to5mac.com/59019/howard-stringer-says-sony-image-sensors-delayed-for-apples-ipad/
QuoteI'm here watching Walt Mossberg talk to Sony's CEO, Sir Howard Stringer. Stringer just said that their camera image sensor facility in Sendai was affected by the recent tsunami/quake. In the next breath, he said something to the effect of getting image sensors to companies like Apple will be delayed.
...
The Street reported in April 2010 that the fifth generation iPhone would pack an 8 megapixel camera from Sony. The same report correctly predicted a 5 megapixel sensor for the iPhone 4. Perhaps Stringer's comment is evidence that the next-generation iPhone will have an 8 megapixel camera. Boom.
No need to get asshurt, Tank.
Sports.
Let's not get distracted. Has Yeti put his broken thunderbolt on desipio for sale yet?
Crackheads. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1374632/Smartphone-cold-turkey-Scientists-prove-youngsters-suffer-gadget-withdrawal.html)
Quote from: Oleg on April 08, 2011, 08:20:02 AM
Crackheads. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1374632/Smartphone-cold-turkey-Scientists-prove-youngsters-suffer-gadget-withdrawal.html)
It ain't just kids.
OMG (http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/apple-store-turns-10-this-week-is-iphone-5-the-secret-new-gadget-50003781/)!! What will they reveal guys?
Quote from: BH on May 17, 2011, 03:18:17 PM
OMG (http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/apple-store-turns-10-this-week-is-iphone-5-the-secret-new-gadget-50003781/)!! What will they reveal guys?
May 22, Mac "Left Behind" edition.
So. Lion's out. Nerd with me.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 21, 2011, 11:13:24 PM
So. Lion's out. Nerd with me.
How was the download/installation process? That's quite a file they want you to download.
Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2011, 09:22:22 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 21, 2011, 11:13:24 PM
So. Lion's out. Nerd with me.
How was the download/installation process? That's quite a file they want you to download.
Simple as could be. I backed up with SuperDuper while it downloaded. Make sure you read Siracusa's advice on Ars to save the installer dmg somewhere, since the installation will wipe it.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 22, 2011, 02:54:45 PM
Simple as could be. I backed up with SuperDuper while it downloaded.
Should you really be downloading a file to a drive while backing it up?
I have two Macs, so yes.
Quote from: Tonker on July 23, 2011, 04:07:55 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 22, 2011, 03:06:45 PM
I have two Macs, so yes.
Swit swoo. Get you.
/stares in wonder
I meant one can download while the other backs up. Get you too?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903327904576526690675657466.html
QuoteSprint Nextel Corp. will begin selling the new version of the Apple iPhone in mid-October, people familiar with the matter said, filling a huge hole in the No. 3 U.S. carrier's lineup and giving Apple Inc. another sales channel for its popular gadget.
Steve Jobs has resigned as CEO from Apple, Inc.QuotePRESS RELEASE: Letter from Steve Jobs
August 24, 2011–To the Apple Board of Directors and the Apple Community:
I have always said if there ever came a day when I could no longer meet my duties and expectations as Apple’s CEO, I would be the first to let you know. Unfortunately, that day has come.
I hereby resign as CEO of Apple. I would like to serve, if the Board sees fit, as Chairman of the Board, director and Apple employee.
As far as my successor goes, I strongly recommend that we execute our succession plan and name Tim Cook as CEO of Apple.
I believe Apple’s brightest and most innovative days are ahead of it. And I look forward to watching and contributing to its success in a new role.
I have made some of the best friends of my life at Apple, and I thank you all for the many years of being able to work alongside you.
Steve
The early guess is he must be in pretty poor and worsening health. A real shame.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 24, 2011, 06:09:08 PM
Steve Jobs has resigned as CEO from Apple, Inc.
QuotePRESS RELEASE: Letter from Steve Jobs
August 24, 2011–To the Apple Board of Directors and the Apple Community:
I have always said if there ever came a day when I could no longer meet my duties and expectations as Apple's CEO, I would be the first to let you know. Unfortunately, that day has come.
I hereby resign as CEO of Apple. I would like to serve, if the Board sees fit, as Chairman of the Board, director and Apple employee.
As far as my successor goes, I strongly recommend that we execute our succession plan and name Tim Cook as CEO of Apple.
I believe Apple's brightest and most innovative days are ahead of it. And I look forward to watching and contributing to its success in a new role.
I have made some of the best friends of my life at Apple, and I thank you all for the many years of being able to work alongside you.
Steve
The early guess is he must be in pretty poor and worsening health. A real shame.
Would this count as a "job created?"
WAYTOGOOBAMA!!!
Step 1: Give many currently-employed workers cancer.
Step 2: Cancerworkers resign.
Step 3: Uncancerworkers take cancerworkers' jobs.
Step 5: PROFIT!
Who needs a new WPA?
PS - This does suck for Jobs and for the company.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 24, 2011, 06:09:08 PM
Steve Jobs has resigned as CEO from Apple, Inc.
QuotePRESS RELEASE: Letter from Steve Jobs
August 24, 2011–To the Apple Board of Directors and the Apple Community:
I have always said if there ever came a day when I could no longer meet my duties and expectations as Apple's CEO, I would be the first to let you know. Unfortunately, that day has come.
I hereby resign as CEO of Apple. I would like to serve, if the Board sees fit, as Chairman of the Board, director and Apple employee.
As far as my successor goes, I strongly recommend that we execute our succession plan and name Tim Cook as CEO of Apple.
I believe Apple's brightest and most innovative days are ahead of it. And I look forward to watching and contributing to its success in a new role.
I have made some of the best friends of my life at Apple, and I thank you all for the many years of being able to work alongside you.
Steve
The early guess is he must be in pretty poor and worsening health. A real shame.
Turns out that liver he got in 2009 was a Chinese knockoff.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 25, 2011, 12:04:37 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 24, 2011, 06:09:08 PM
Steve Jobs has resigned as CEO from Apple, Inc.
QuotePRESS RELEASE: Letter from Steve Jobs
August 24, 2011–To the Apple Board of Directors and the Apple Community:
I have always said if there ever came a day when I could no longer meet my duties and expectations as Apple's CEO, I would be the first to let you know. Unfortunately, that day has come.
I hereby resign as CEO of Apple. I would like to serve, if the Board sees fit, as Chairman of the Board, director and Apple employee.
As far as my successor goes, I strongly recommend that we execute our succession plan and name Tim Cook as CEO of Apple.
I believe Apple's brightest and most innovative days are ahead of it. And I look forward to watching and contributing to its success in a new role.
I have made some of the best friends of my life at Apple, and I thank you all for the many years of being able to work alongside you.
Steve
The early guess is he must be in pretty poor and worsening health. A real shame.
Turns out that liver he got in 2009 was a Chinese knockoff.
Gizmodo bought the real liver after it was left in a cooler at the hospital dining hall.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 25, 2011, 06:21:46 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 25, 2011, 12:04:37 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 24, 2011, 06:09:08 PM
Steve Jobs has resigned as CEO from Apple, Inc.
QuotePRESS RELEASE: Letter from Steve Jobs
August 24, 2011–To the Apple Board of Directors and the Apple Community:
I have always said if there ever came a day when I could no longer meet my duties and expectations as Apple's CEO, I would be the first to let you know. Unfortunately, that day has come.
I hereby resign as CEO of Apple. I would like to serve, if the Board sees fit, as Chairman of the Board, director and Apple employee.
As far as my successor goes, I strongly recommend that we execute our succession plan and name Tim Cook as CEO of Apple.
I believe Apple's brightest and most innovative days are ahead of it. And I look forward to watching and contributing to its success in a new role.
I have made some of the best friends of my life at Apple, and I thank you all for the many years of being able to work alongside you.
Steve
The early guess is he must be in pretty poor and worsening health. A real shame.
Turns out that liver he got in 2009 was a Chinese knockoff.
Gizmodo bought the real liver after it was left in a cooler at the hospital dining hall.
iQuit
Apple (with the SFPD as backup) isn't a big fan of that whole 4th amendment thing.
http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/09/sfpd-we-stood-outside-when-apples-investigators-tossed-mans-home.php?ref=fpblg
Good sources (Dalrymple, AllThingsD) reporting Oct 4 as the iPhone 5 presser.
Quote from: R-V on September 03, 2011, 10:49:41 AM
Apple (with the SFPD as backup) isn't a big fan of that whole 4th amendment thing.
http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/09/sfpd-we-stood-outside-when-apples-investigators-tossed-mans-home.php?ref=fpblg
I knew that Apple was big. But I didn't know that it had its own police department. Since a private entity can't violate the Constitution it is a very convenient way of conducting investigations.
One of my co-workers just told me that her 2005 vintage laptop woke up this morning believing that today was March 4, 2005. Since the garage in which the first Mac was put together was still being used to park cars and store a lawnmower in March of 1969, I suspect that she is the proud owner of a virus.
Quote from: CBStew on September 22, 2011, 03:38:42 PM
One of my co-workers just told me that her 2005 vintage laptop woke up this morning believing that today was March 4, 2005. Since the garage in which the first Mac was put together was still being used to park cars and store a lawnmower in March of 1969, I suspect that she is the proud owner of a virus.
more likely a dead pRAM battery
Her battery signal is very ambiguous. It tells her that she is at 50% and then changes its mind and goes 0%.
Quote from: CBStew on September 22, 2011, 08:45:19 PM
Her battery signal is very ambiguous. It tells her that she is at 50% and then changes its mind and goes 0%.
Might could simply use calibrating (http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1490).
Bump: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5144094928842683632
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 04, 2011, 01:48:50 PM
Bump: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5144094928842683632
Lots of upgrades to the iphone 4, but same look. For all the iphone 4 users, I'm not sure it's enough to upgrade.
Quote from: BH on October 04, 2011, 02:06:41 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 04, 2011, 01:48:50 PM
Bump: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5144094928842683632
Lots of upgrades to the iphone 4, but same look. For all the iphone 4 users, I'm not sure it's enough to upgrade.
You didn't click on my link, did you?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 04, 2011, 02:14:18 PM
Quote from: BH on October 04, 2011, 02:06:41 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 04, 2011, 01:48:50 PM
Bump: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5144094928842683632
Lots of upgrades to the iphone 4, but same look. For all the iphone 4 users, I'm not sure it's enough to upgrade.
You didn't click on my link, did you?
Can't access it at work.
Quote from: BH on October 04, 2011, 02:14:42 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 04, 2011, 02:14:18 PM
Quote from: BH on October 04, 2011, 02:06:41 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 04, 2011, 01:48:50 PM
Bump: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5144094928842683632
Lots of upgrades to the iphone 4, but same look. For all the iphone 4 users, I'm not sure it's enough to upgrade.
You didn't click on my link, did you?
Can't access it at work.
Looks like someone made an ass out of u and mption.
Bump.
http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7928.0
The iphone 4s is a little underwhelming, but I can't stand this f'ng blackberry any longer. I also hated ATT in chicago, but it's the only network that will have faster speeds with the new iphone (not sprint or verizon).
Quote from: BH on October 07, 2011, 10:15:43 AM
The iphone 4s is a little underwhelming, but I can't stand this f'ng blackberry any longer. I also hated ATT in chicago, but it's the only network that will have faster speeds with the new iphone (not sprint or verizon).
A MAN IS DEAD!
How is ios5?
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 11:14:57 AM
How is ios5?
I'll tell you when this fucking hour long process of downloading and installing is done.
Quote from: PenPho on October 13, 2011, 11:21:54 AM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 11:14:57 AM
How is ios5?
I'll tell you when this fucking hour long process of downloading and installing is done.
I'm liking it on the iPad. Haven't done the upgrade for the iPod touch yet though.
http://shitthatsirisays.tumblr.com/
Quote from: R-V on October 13, 2011, 12:46:00 PM
http://shitthatsirisays.tumblr.com/
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsz8iwNukU1r4eoiuo1_250.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4BW5-wnYbVo/TZqikHVKAgI/AAAAAAAAAHE/YQ8u3A_Q51w/s200/ted%2Blilly.jpg)
"Very impressive."
Quote from: PenPho on October 13, 2011, 11:21:54 AM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 11:14:57 AM
How is ios5?
I'll tell you when this fucking hour long process of downloading and installing is done.
The Notification Center seems like a really cool feature. Not sure why Mail wasn't set-up as a default, but it was easy enough to add to it.
The new photo editing is nice, though I think most people probably already have other apps that do this currently. So it's just consolidating existing features into one place.
It seems like with iMessage, you now get unlimited texting to other people if they're on an iOS5 device, which is great.
Haven't used anything else yet.
Apple has a video and site that hit on the features.
http://www.apple.com/ios/features.html
Quote from: PenPho on October 13, 2011, 01:22:19 PM
It seems like with iMessage, you now get unlimited texting to other people if they're on an iOS5 device, which is great.
And also the impetus behind (http://parislemon.com/post/9075145535/streamlining) AT&T "streamlining" their text message offerings. (http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/17/atandt-streamlining-individual-messaging-plans-august-21st-leavin/)
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 13, 2011, 01:54:08 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 13, 2011, 01:22:19 PM
It seems like with iMessage, you now get unlimited texting to other people if they're on an iOS5 device, which is great.
And also the impetus behind (http://parislemon.com/post/9075145535/streamlining) AT&T "streamlining" their text message offerings. (http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/17/atandt-streamlining-individual-messaging-plans-august-21st-leavin/)
I pay $5 for 200 texts a month - assuming that I'll be grandfathered in, so this is a nice plus for me, since most of my texts are to other iPhone users.
I won't change my plan, but I'll never be at risk over going over 200.
Anyone else getting the new 4s tomorrow besides myself? Has Yeti sold his thunderbolt to buy one?
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 03:45:23 PM
Anyone else getting the new 4s tomorrow besides myself? Has Yeti sold his thunderbolt to buy one?
I think I am.
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 03:45:23 PM
Anyone else getting the new 4s tomorrow besides myself? Has Yeti sold his thunderbolt to buy one?
I have 4G in Springfield (4s isn't on LTE) and the Thunderbolt now has Gingerbread. Right now, this thing is boneriffic. Battery life was definitely improved with the upgrade which was my main gripe. So, now, I have no gripe at all.
Also, I've used over 10GB of data in 20 days of my billing cycle. Suck it, AT&T limited internet
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 03:51:38 PM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 03:45:23 PM
Anyone else getting the new 4s tomorrow besides myself? Has Yeti sold his thunderbolt to buy one?
I have 4G in Springfield (4s isn't on LTE) and the Thunderbolt now has Gingerbread. Right now, this thing is boneriffic. Battery life was definitely improved with the upgrade which was my main gripe. So, now, I have no gripe at all.
Also, I've used over 10GB of data in 20 days of my billing cycle. Suck it, AT&T limited internet
Jebus, 10GB in 20 days?
1GB = 33 hours of streaming music or viewing 5,600 websites.
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 03:55:51 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 03:51:38 PM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 03:45:23 PM
Anyone else getting the new 4s tomorrow besides myself? Has Yeti sold his thunderbolt to buy one?
I have 4G in Springfield (4s isn't on LTE) and the Thunderbolt now has Gingerbread. Right now, this thing is boneriffic. Battery life was definitely improved with the upgrade which was my main gripe. So, now, I have no gripe at all.
Also, I've used over 10GB of data in 20 days of my billing cycle. Suck it, AT&T limited internet
Jebus, 10GB in 20 days?
1GB = 33 hours of streaming music or viewing 5,600 websites.
1gb = streaming video?
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 03:55:51 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 03:51:38 PM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 03:45:23 PM
Anyone else getting the new 4s tomorrow besides myself? Has Yeti sold his thunderbolt to buy one?
I have 4G in Springfield (4s isn't on LTE) and the Thunderbolt now has Gingerbread. Right now, this thing is boneriffic. Battery life was definitely improved with the upgrade which was my main gripe. So, now, I have no gripe at all.
Also, I've used over 10GB of data in 20 days of my billing cycle. Suck it, AT&T limited internet
Jebus, 10GB in 20 days?
1GB = 33 hours of streaming music or viewing 5,600 websites.
Porn streams ain't small, BH.
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 03:57:30 PM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 03:55:51 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 03:51:38 PM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 03:45:23 PM
Anyone else getting the new 4s tomorrow besides myself? Has Yeti sold his thunderbolt to buy one?
I have 4G in Springfield (4s isn't on LTE) and the Thunderbolt now has Gingerbread. Right now, this thing is boneriffic. Battery life was definitely improved with the upgrade which was my main gripe. So, now, I have no gripe at all.
Also, I've used over 10GB of data in 20 days of my billing cycle. Suck it, AT&T limited internet
Jebus, 10GB in 20 days?
1GB = 33 hours of streaming music or viewing 5,600 websites.
1gb = streaming video?
I think around 30 min.. do you not own a television?
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 04:04:56 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 03:57:30 PM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 03:55:51 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 03:51:38 PM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 03:45:23 PM
Anyone else getting the new 4s tomorrow besides myself? Has Yeti sold his thunderbolt to buy one?
I have 4G in Springfield (4s isn't on LTE) and the Thunderbolt now has Gingerbread. Right now, this thing is boneriffic. Battery life was definitely improved with the upgrade which was my main gripe. So, now, I have no gripe at all.
Also, I've used over 10GB of data in 20 days of my billing cycle. Suck it, AT&T limited internet
Jebus, 10GB in 20 days?
1GB = 33 hours of streaming music or viewing 5,600 websites.
1gb = streaming video?
I think around 30 min.. do you not own a television?
Yes, I typically stream from my TV at work. Or from Hulu+ or Netflix. One of those three. /lazystateworker #occupyspringfield
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 04:08:32 PM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 04:04:56 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 03:57:30 PM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 03:55:51 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 03:51:38 PM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 03:45:23 PM
Anyone else getting the new 4s tomorrow besides myself? Has Yeti sold his thunderbolt to buy one?
I have 4G in Springfield (4s isn't on LTE) and the Thunderbolt now has Gingerbread. Right now, this thing is boneriffic. Battery life was definitely improved with the upgrade which was my main gripe. So, now, I have no gripe at all.
Also, I've used over 10GB of data in 20 days of my billing cycle. Suck it, AT&T limited internet
Jebus, 10GB in 20 days?
1GB = 33 hours of streaming music or viewing 5,600 websites.
1gb = streaming video?
I think around 30 min.. do you not own a television?
Yes, I typically stream from my TV at work. Or from Hulu+ or Netflix. One of those three. /lazystateworker #occupyspringfield
Holy shit, you actually watch TV on your phone while you're at work? Maybe I'm out of touch but that's REALLY lazy.
Quote from: R-V on October 13, 2011, 04:28:25 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 04:08:32 PM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 04:04:56 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 03:57:30 PM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 03:55:51 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 03:51:38 PM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 03:45:23 PM
Anyone else getting the new 4s tomorrow besides myself? Has Yeti sold his thunderbolt to buy one?
I have 4G in Springfield (4s isn't on LTE) and the Thunderbolt now has Gingerbread. Right now, this thing is boneriffic. Battery life was definitely improved with the upgrade which was my main gripe. So, now, I have no gripe at all.
Also, I've used over 10GB of data in 20 days of my billing cycle. Suck it, AT&T limited internet
Jebus, 10GB in 20 days?
1GB = 33 hours of streaming music or viewing 5,600 websites.
1gb = streaming video?
I think around 30 min.. do you not own a television?
Yes, I typically stream from my TV at work. Or from Hulu+ or Netflix. One of those three. /lazystateworker #occupyspringfield
Holy shit, you actually watch TV on your phone while you're at work? Maybe I'm out of touch but that's REALLY lazy.
He works and watches. (http://hje.me/sbox/dlog.php?highlight=p137226141&date=2011-9-27#p137226141)
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 13, 2011, 05:05:59 PM
Quote from: R-V on October 13, 2011, 04:28:25 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 04:08:32 PM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 04:04:56 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 03:57:30 PM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 03:55:51 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 03:51:38 PM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 03:45:23 PM
Anyone else getting the new 4s tomorrow besides myself? Has Yeti sold his thunderbolt to buy one?
I have 4G in Springfield (4s isn't on LTE) and the Thunderbolt now has Gingerbread. Right now, this thing is boneriffic. Battery life was definitely improved with the upgrade which was my main gripe. So, now, I have no gripe at all.
Also, I've used over 10GB of data in 20 days of my billing cycle. Suck it, AT&T limited internet
Jebus, 10GB in 20 days?
1GB = 33 hours of streaming music or viewing 5,600 websites.
1gb = streaming video?
I think around 30 min.. do you not own a television?
Yes, I typically stream from my TV at work. Or from Hulu+ or Netflix. One of those three. /lazystateworker #occupyspringfield
Holy shit, you actually watch TV on your phone while you're at work? Maybe I'm out of touch but that's REALLY lazy.
He works and watches. (http://hje.me/sbox/dlog.php?highlight=p137226141&date=2011-9-27#p137226141)
Keep in mind that Yeti SBoxes from his iPhone all day as well since it's fun-filtered.
If ever there was someone well-suited to work in a toll booth, it's that Yetti guy.
Quote from: PenPho on October 13, 2011, 06:25:17 PM
If ever there was someone well-suited to work in a toll booth, it's that Yetti guy.
Sounds like a Linkedin recommendation to me!
Quote from: PenPho on October 13, 2011, 06:25:17 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 13, 2011, 05:05:59 PM
Quote from: R-V on October 13, 2011, 04:28:25 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 04:08:32 PM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 04:04:56 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 03:57:30 PM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 03:55:51 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 03:51:38 PM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 03:45:23 PM
Anyone else getting the new 4s tomorrow besides myself? Has Yeti sold his thunderbolt to buy one?
I have 4G in Springfield (4s isn't on LTE) and the Thunderbolt now has Gingerbread. Right now, this thing is boneriffic. Battery life was definitely improved with the upgrade which was my main gripe. So, now, I have no gripe at all.
Also, I've used over 10GB of data in 20 days of my billing cycle. Suck it, AT&T limited internet
Jebus, 10GB in 20 days?
1GB = 33 hours of streaming music or viewing 5,600 websites.
1gb = streaming video?
I think around 30 min.. do you not own a television?
Yes, I typically stream from my TV at work. Or from Hulu+ or Netflix. One of those three. /lazystateworker #occupyspringfield
Holy shit, you actually watch TV on your phone while you're at work? Maybe I'm out of touch but that's REALLY lazy.
He works and watches. (http://hje.me/sbox/dlog.php?highlight=p137226141&date=2011-9-27#p137226141)
Keep in mind that Yeti SBoxes from his iPhone all day as well since it's fun-filtered.
If ever there was someone well-suited to work in a toll booth, it's that Yetti guy.
(http://i.imgur.com/LPTCk.jpg)
Quote from: PenPho on October 13, 2011, 06:25:17 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 13, 2011, 05:05:59 PM
Quote from: R-V on October 13, 2011, 04:28:25 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 04:08:32 PM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 04:04:56 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 03:57:30 PM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 03:55:51 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on October 13, 2011, 03:51:38 PM
Quote from: BH on October 13, 2011, 03:45:23 PM
Anyone else getting the new 4s tomorrow besides myself? Has Yeti sold his thunderbolt to buy one?
I have 4G in Springfield (4s isn't on LTE) and the Thunderbolt now has Gingerbread. Right now, this thing is boneriffic. Battery life was definitely improved with the upgrade which was my main gripe. So, now, I have no gripe at all.
Also, I've used over 10GB of data in 20 days of my billing cycle. Suck it, AT&T limited internet
Jebus, 10GB in 20 days?
1GB = 33 hours of streaming music or viewing 5,600 websites.
1gb = streaming video?
I think around 30 min.. do you not own a television?
Yes, I typically stream from my TV at work. Or from Hulu+ or Netflix. One of those three. /lazystateworker #occupyspringfield
Holy shit, you actually watch TV on your phone while you're at work? Maybe I'm out of touch but that's REALLY lazy.
He works and watches. (http://hje.me/sbox/dlog.php?highlight=p137226141&date=2011-9-27#p137226141)
Keep in mind that Yeti SBoxes from his iPhone all day as well since it's fun-filtered.
If ever there was someone well-suited to work in a toll booth, it's that Yetti guy.
I still get my job of spending tax dollars done daily. Right now, I'm about to send $66k out the door....
Ok, its gone
Quote from: Eli on October 14, 2011, 10:21:51 AM
Quote from: morpheus on October 14, 2011, 09:56:24 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/LPTCk.jpg)
Hell. Yeah.
Between this PShop and then Yetti's immediate adoption along with "Milking tax dollars while watching Glee.", this feels like a huge victory.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on October 14, 2011, 11:16:23 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 14, 2011, 10:31:04 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 14, 2011, 10:21:51 AM
Quote from: morpheus on October 14, 2011, 09:56:24 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/LPTCk.jpg)
Hell. Yeah.
"Dollah twenty-five, Bishop."
Should I give the money to you or should I shove the quarters up your fat ass?
I'm gonna fuck you and all your fish-eatin' lesbian friends in front of your fuckin' mother.
How much data does SB'ng take up for normal users like pen, thrill, morph, etc?
Quote from: BH on October 20, 2011, 08:50:04 AM
How much data does SB'ng take up for normal users like pen, thrill, morph, etc?
I don't know that any of us fall into the definition of normal.
As Yetti is the sole iPhone SBoxer, he'd probably be best suited to
sell you a gently used iPhone answer this.
Quote from: PenPho on October 20, 2011, 02:09:31 PM
Quote from: BH on October 20, 2011, 08:50:04 AM
How much data does SB'ng take up for normal users like pen, thrill, morph, etc?
I don't know that any of us fall into the definition of normal.
As Yetti is the sole iPhone SBoxer, he'd probably be best suited to sell you a gently used iPhone answer this.
SBoxing is pretty easy on an iPhone, just navigating page-to-page is a little tough because the SBox doesn't stretch.
Quote from: Fork on October 20, 2011, 02:15:11 PM
Quote from: PenPho on October 20, 2011, 02:09:31 PM
Quote from: BH on October 20, 2011, 08:50:04 AM
How much data does SB'ng take up for normal users like pen, thrill, morph, etc?
I don't know that any of us fall into the definition of normal.
As Yetti is the sole iPhone SBoxer, he'd probably be best suited to sell you a gently used iPhone answer this.
SBoxing is pretty easy on an iPhone, just navigating page-to-page is a little tough because the SBox doesn't stretch.
Slogger
For those on an apple device, how do you get the shoutbox to format so you can see it?
Quote from: BH on November 02, 2011, 07:57:46 AM
For those on an apple device, how do you get the shoutbox to format so you can see it?
Good question. I've largely given up, because I have to switch back to the slogger just to see what I just said.
Quote from: Bort on November 02, 2011, 08:06:08 AM
Quote from: BH on November 02, 2011, 07:57:46 AM
For those on an apple device, how do you get the shoutbox to format so you can see it?
Good question. I've largely given up, because I have to switch back to the slogger just to see what I just said.
The old shoutbox form worked great (www2.shoutmix.com/?badkermit) but the new one looks to be embedded in the UI, making it suck.
I blame BK for this.
Quote from: BH on November 02, 2011, 07:57:46 AM
For those on an apple device, how do you get the shoutbox to format so you can see it?
use the pop-up shoutbox in Safari.
Quote from: Fork on November 02, 2011, 08:31:38 AM
Quote from: BH on November 02, 2011, 07:57:46 AM
For those on an apple device, how do you get the shoutbox to format so you can see it?
use the pop-up shoutbox in Safari.
Is that in settings? or how do you access this?
Quote from: BH on November 02, 2011, 08:28:10 AM
Quote from: Bort on November 02, 2011, 08:06:08 AM
Quote from: BH on November 02, 2011, 07:57:46 AM
For those on an apple device, how do you get the shoutbox to format so you can see it?
Good question. I've largely given up, because I have to switch back to the slogger just to see what I just said.
The old shoutbox form worked great (www2.shoutmix.com/?badkermit) but the new one looks to be embedded in the UI, making it suck.
I blame BK for this.
The url just changed: http://www5.shoutmix.com/?hirejimessian
And, yes, it was ALL KERMIT'S FAULT.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 02, 2011, 08:37:15 AM
Quote from: BH on November 02, 2011, 08:28:10 AM
Quote from: Bort on November 02, 2011, 08:06:08 AM
Quote from: BH on November 02, 2011, 07:57:46 AM
For those on an apple device, how do you get the shoutbox to format so you can see it?
Good question. I've largely given up, because I have to switch back to the slogger just to see what I just said.
The old shoutbox form worked great (www2.shoutmix.com/?badkermit) but the new one looks to be embedded in the UI, making it suck.
I blame BK for this.
The url just changed: http://www5.shoutmix.com/?hirejimessian
And, yes, it was ALL KERMIT'S FAULT.
Perfect, thanks. This is what i was looking for.
Quote from: BH on November 02, 2011, 08:34:48 AM
Quote from: Fork on November 02, 2011, 08:31:38 AM
Quote from: BH on November 02, 2011, 07:57:46 AM
For those on an apple device, how do you get the shoutbox to format so you can see it?
use the pop-up shoutbox in Safari.
Is that in settings? or how do you access this?
In the future, when you get the SBox on the HJE page, there's a "+" button - when you hit that there's an option for "pop up shoutbox", which will open it in its own window.
Is Firefox available on Itunes? I have it and the stock Android browser. Firefox allows me to scroll within the shoutbox and it spellchecks words as they're typed. The android browser does neither of those, but Firefox runs slower than the android browser so I go with that.....
... What I was saying is that if you can mess with Firefox, try it out
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on November 02, 2011, 10:23:35 AM
Is Firefox available on Itunes? I have it and the stock Android browser. Firefox allows me to scroll within the shoutbox and it spellchecks words as they're typed. The android browser does neither of those, but Firefox runs slower than the android browser so I go with that.....
... What I was saying is that if you can mess with Firefox, try it out
Downloading tranny pron whilst watching Glee at work will tend to do that.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on November 02, 2011, 10:49:14 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on November 02, 2011, 10:23:35 AM
Is Firefox available on Itunes? I have it and the stock Android browser. Firefox allows me to scroll within the shoutbox and it spellchecks words as they're typed. The android browser does neither of those, but Firefox runs slower than the android browser so I go with that.....
... What I was saying is that if you can mess with Firefox, try it out
Downloading tranny pron whilst watching Glee at work will tend to do that.
And you want to be my latex salesman?
Steve Jobs: winning from beyond the grave...
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/exclusive-adobe-ceases-development-on-mobile-browser-flash-refocuses-efforts-on-html5/19226
QuoteSources close to Adobe that have been briefed on the company's future development plans have revealed this forthcoming announcement to ZDNet:
QuoteOur future work with Flash on mobile devices will be focused on enabling Flash developers to package native apps with Adobe AIR for all the major app stores. We will no longer adapt Flash Player for mobile devices to new browser, OS version or device configurations. Some of our source code licensees may opt to continue working on and releasing their own implementations. We will continue to support the current Android and PlayBook configurations with critical bug fixes and security updates.
Additionally, the e-mail briefing to Adobe's partners has been summed up as follows:
- Adobe is Stopping development on Flash Player for browsers on mobile.
Adobe is now focusing their development efforts on:
- Applications for mobile
- Expressive content on the desktop (in and out of browser)
- Increasing their investments in HTML5 in general
The full content and scope of the announcement is expected to be posted on the Adobe web site in the next day.
Also: Steve GOBs (http://stevegobs.tumblr.com/).
Take a look at iPad, Michael.
This seems worth reposting in light of today's tragic demise of Mobile Flash at the hands of rabid Apple fanboys who will buy anything with an Apple logo on it because it's a cult and they're hipster losers. (http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/)
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 09, 2011, 01:34:25 AM
Steve Jobs: winning from beyond the grave...
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/exclusive-adobe-ceases-development-on-mobile-browser-flash-refocuses-efforts-on-html5/19226
QuoteSources close to Adobe that have been briefed on the company's future development plans have revealed this forthcoming announcement to ZDNet:
QuoteOur future work with Flash on mobile devices will be focused on enabling Flash developers to package native apps with Adobe AIR for all the major app stores. We will no longer adapt Flash Player for mobile devices to new browser, OS version or device configurations. Some of our source code licensees may opt to continue working on and releasing their own implementations. We will continue to support the current Android and PlayBook configurations with critical bug fixes and security updates.
Additionally, the e-mail briefing to Adobe's partners has been summed up as follows:
- Adobe is Stopping development on Flash Player for browsers on mobile.
Adobe is now focusing their development efforts on:
- Applications for mobile
- Expressive content on the desktop (in and out of browser)
- Increasing their investments in HTML5 in general
The full content and scope of the announcement is expected to be posted on the Adobe web site in the next day.
DPD. Steve Jobs: catching crims (http://www.wtov9.com/news/news/ohio-county-deputies-searching-man/nFZFN/) from beyond the grave.
Is Huey buying himself an iPad?
(http://i.imgur.com/itnja.jpg?8750)
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 17, 2011, 06:23:06 PM
Is Huey buying himself an iPad?
(http://i.imgur.com/itnja.jpg?8750)
That's not a pannier. And there'd scarcely be room for soup.
Quote from: Wheezer on November 17, 2011, 06:58:17 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 17, 2011, 06:23:06 PM
Is Huey buying himself an iPad?
(http://i.imgur.com/itnja.jpg?8750)
That's not a pannier. And there'd scarcely be room for soup.
Nor a Bacci pizza slice.
Quote from: PANK! on November 17, 2011, 07:22:19 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on November 17, 2011, 06:58:17 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 17, 2011, 06:23:06 PM
Is Huey buying himself an iPad?
(http://i.imgur.com/itnja.jpg?8750)
That's not a pannier. And there'd scarcely be room for soup.
Nor a Bacci pizza slice.
If that's not Huey, he's done his homework.
If you have an Apple tv and like hockey, the NHL.com video highlight function is greatly improved. Great video highlights of every game.
http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/161/louis-ck-on-female-culture
QuoteOverall, I think it's a good time to have a girl in the 21st century because things are changing, with more opportunities for women. But girls are still the underdog, which means they'll work harder, and everybody loves an underdog. The next Steve Jobs will totally be a chick, because girls are No. 2--and No. 2 always wins in America. Apple was a No. 2 company for years, and Apple embodies a lot of what have been defined as feminine traits: an emphasis on intuitive design, intellect, a strong sense of creativity, and that striving to always make the greatest version of something. Traditionally, men are more like Microsoft, where they'll just make a fake version of what that chick made, then beat the shit out of her and try to intimidate everybody into using their product.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 23, 2011, 11:45:16 AM
http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/161/louis-ck-on-female-culture
QuoteOverall, I think it's a good time to have a girl in the 21st century because things are changing, with more opportunities for women. But girls are still the underdog, which means they'll work harder, and everybody loves an underdog. The next Steve Jobs will totally be a chick, because girls are No. 2--and No. 2 always wins in America. Apple was a No. 2 company for years, and Apple embodies a lot of what have been defined as feminine traits: an emphasis on intuitive design, intellect, a strong sense of creativity, and that striving to always make the greatest version of something. Traditionally, men are more like Microsoft, where they'll just make a fake version of what that chick made, then beat the shit out of her and try to intimidate everybody into using their product.
Hey, makes more sense than Ballmer.
Might have been asked already, but what are your favorite iPad apps?
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 07, 2011, 04:59:18 PM
Might have been asked already, but what are your favorite iPad apps?
I'm sure that Yeti will sell you his gently used iTunes password if you want access to any of his.
Quote from: PenPho on December 07, 2011, 05:31:13 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 07, 2011, 04:59:18 PM
Might have been asked already, but what are your favorite iPad apps?
I'm sure that Yeti will sell you his gently used iTunes password if you want access to any of his.
In retrospect, perhaps not my best try.... Although, as I look back on my life there's a common theme
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 07, 2011, 04:59:18 PM
Might have been asked already, but what are your favorite iPad apps?
Netflix is a must have, Wikipanion is good, FluentNews, TuneIn Radio+, Pages, ABC Player, StumbleUpon, WolframAlpha, and CrackedHD.
Really? (http://www.informationweek.com/byte/news/personal-tech/smart-phones/232300946) I can't blame Apple for pursuing it, but really, a touch screen smartphone that lets you talk on the phone while using it for other apps is patentable?
QuoteSo it's not clear whether a prior art argument would work. "The other big question is whether this patent is obvious. When something is 'obvious,' it is not patentable, but it is difficult to make a clear-cut definition of obvious," Deborah Sweeney, CEO of MyCorporation.com, told BYTE in an email interview.
How did we get to a situation where such things are patentable? The US Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) has been issuing a flood of such patents for years, making it difficult for software developers to know what is and isn't off limits. Says Sweeney, "...this patent may be considered by many to be weak and calls into question whether the USPTO is monetarily motivated to issue patents."
Quote from: morpheus on December 22, 2011, 03:13:47 PM
Really? (http://www.informationweek.com/byte/news/personal-tech/smart-phones/232300946) I can't blame Apple for pursuing it, but really, a touch screen smartphone that lets you talk on the phone while using it for other apps is patentable?
QuoteSo it's not clear whether a prior art argument would work. "The other big question is whether this patent is obvious. When something is 'obvious,' it is not patentable, but it is difficult to make a clear-cut definition of obvious," Deborah Sweeney, CEO of MyCorporation.com, told BYTE in an email interview.
How did we get to a situation where such things are patentable? The US Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) has been issuing a flood of such patents for years, making it difficult for software developers to know what is and isn't off limits. Says Sweeney, "...this patent may be considered by many to be weak and calls into question whether the USPTO is monetarily motivated to issue patents."
This is unfortunately the way of the world for US software patents.
It's a game everybody plays and everybody loses.
An episode of This American Life covered the situation quite nicely: http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/441/when-patents-attack
Related, from September...
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/09/mostly-pointless-patent-reform-bill-goes-to-obama-for-signature.ars
QuoteThe United States Senate has approved the America Invents Act, a major overhaul to patent law that switches to a "first to file" rule for granting patents, creates two new processes for challenging already-granted patents, and gives the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) power to set patent fees. Because the House of Representatives passed the bill with identical language earlier this year, the legislation will now go directly to President Obama for his signature. He is expected to sign it, and may tout it during tonight's prime-time address on the economy.
Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) hailed the legislation as the most significant overhaul of the patent system in decades. But Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-WA) blasted the bill. "This is not a patent reform bill. This is a big corporation patent giveaway that tramples on the right of small inventors," she said.
...
Congress has been wrestling with patent reform legislation since 2005. When we last took an in-depth look (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2008/03/clean-up-patent-mess.ars) at the issue in 2008, we concluded that the legislation then under consideration was not the kind of serious patent reform the nation needs. This year's legislation is weaker still.
For example, the 2008 Patent Reform Act would have reduced the profitability of litigation by reforming how damages for infringement are calculated. These provisions did not make it into the legislation that is now on its way to the Oval Office. Also out are limitations on forum shopping, the practice by which plaintiffs sue in obscure, patent-friendly jurisdictions such as the Eastern District of Texas. No wonder the experts we talked to in last month's Ask Ars story (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/08/ask-ars-is-serious-patent-reform-on-the-horizon.ars) didn't think America Invents would do much good.
...
In short, the long-running battle over patent reform legislation has ended in a standstill. The only winners are the large companies—which supported the switch to "first to file" and other procedural changes—and the patent office itself, which will enjoy a larger budget and greater autonomy. The rest of us lost, because almost all the serious reform ideas wound up on the cutting room floor.
http://www.mattrichman.net/post/16425003555/takeaways-from-apples-q4-2011
QuoteIn 2009, Apple sold more iPhones than it did in 2007 and 2008 combined. In 2010, Apple sold more iPhones than it did in 2007, 2008, and 2009 combined. Last year, Apple sold 93.1 million iPhones, slightly more than it did in in 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010 combined.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 24, 2012, 05:24:32 PM
http://www.mattrichman.net/post/16425003555/takeaways-from-apples-q4-2011
QuoteIn 2009, Apple sold more iPhones than it did in 2007 and 2008 combined. In 2010, Apple sold more iPhones than it did in 2007, 2008, and 2009 combined. Last year, Apple sold 93.1 million iPhones, slightly more than it did in in 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010 combined.
That's the best blog tagline I've ever seen.
Quote from: Eli on January 24, 2012, 06:21:49 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 24, 2012, 05:24:32 PM
http://www.mattrichman.net/post/16425003555/takeaways-from-apples-q4-2011
QuoteIn 2009, Apple sold more iPhones than it did in 2007 and 2008 combined. In 2010, Apple sold more iPhones than it did in 2007, 2008, and 2009 combined. Last year, Apple sold 93.1 million iPhones, slightly more than it did in in 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010 combined.
That's the best blog tagline I've ever seen.
For the lazy:
(http://i.imgur.com/Z2k8l.jpg)
Quote from: Slaky on January 25, 2012, 09:10:54 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 24, 2012, 06:21:49 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 24, 2012, 05:24:32 PM
http://www.mattrichman.net/post/16425003555/takeaways-from-apples-q4-2011
QuoteIn 2009, Apple sold more iPhones than it did in 2007 and 2008 combined. In 2010, Apple sold more iPhones than it did in 2007, 2008, and 2009 combined. Last year, Apple sold 93.1 million iPhones, slightly more than it did in in 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010 combined.
That's the best blog tagline I've ever seen.
For the lazy:
(http://i.imgur.com/Z2k8l.jpg)
TOO OLD
Apple is doing their part to take down China (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/26/business/ieconomy-apples-ipad-and-the-human-costs-for-workers-in-china.html?_r=1)
Quote from: BH on January 26, 2012, 08:13:56 AM
Apple is Every single electronics or computer company you've ever heard of are doing their part to take down China (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/26/business/ieconomy-apples-ipad-and-the-human-costs-for-workers-in-china.html?_r=1)
Chances are that, at this very moment, you're surrounded by shit full of parts manufactured by Foxconn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#Major_customers)'d
Everyone's complicit.
Related:
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/454/mr-daisey-and-the-apple-factory
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-january-16-2012/fear-factory
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/business/apple-america-and-a-squeezed-middle-class.html?pagewanted=all
Released via FOIA, the FBI's dossier on Steve Jobs (http://vault.fbi.gov/steve-jobs/steve-jobs-part-01-of-01/view).
Via. (http://boingboing.net/2012/02/09/the-fbi-file-of-steven-paul-jo.html)
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on February 10, 2012, 10:07:00 AM
Released via FOIA, the FBI's dossier on Steve Jobs (http://vault.fbi.gov/steve-jobs/steve-jobs-part-01-of-01/view).
Via. (http://boingboing.net/2012/02/09/the-fbi-file-of-steven-paul-jo.html)
Adding...
(http://i.imgur.com/n8BEX.jpg)
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on February 10, 2012, 10:08:46 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on February 10, 2012, 10:07:00 AM
Released via FOIA, the FBI's dossier on Steve Jobs (http://vault.fbi.gov/steve-jobs/steve-jobs-part-01-of-01/view).
Via. (http://boingboing.net/2012/02/09/the-fbi-file-of-steven-paul-jo.html)
Adding...
(http://i.imgur.com/n8BEX.jpg)
Holy shit he worked for ISIS?
Quote from: Slaky on February 10, 2012, 10:32:53 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on February 10, 2012, 10:08:46 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on February 10, 2012, 10:07:00 AM
Released via FOIA, the FBI's dossier on Steve Jobs (http://vault.fbi.gov/steve-jobs/steve-jobs-part-01-of-01/view).
Via. (http://boingboing.net/2012/02/09/the-fbi-file-of-steven-paul-jo.html)
Adding...
(http://i.imgur.com/n8BEX.jpg)
Holy shit he worked for ISIS?
That cannot be confirmed.
I just had a Skype video call with my son. He called my iphone here in Berkeley from his iphone during a marathon that he is running in downtown Tokyo. His son, my one year old grandson, has been born into a generation that will someday hear about this and say "That was really primitive."
Quote from: Slaky on February 10, 2012, 10:32:53 AM
Holy shit he worked for ISIS?
Hell of a boss.
(http://media.lunch.com/d/d7/584577.jpg)
Quote from: CBStew on February 25, 2012, 08:17:00 PM
I just had a Skype video call with my son. He called my iphone here in Berkeley from his iphone during a marathon that he is running in downtown Tokyo. His son, my one year old grandson, has been born into a generation that will someday hear about this and say "That was really primitive."
He called you in the middle of a marathon?
WTF, Japan?
Quote from: PenPho on February 27, 2012, 10:58:52 AM
Quote from: CBStew on February 25, 2012, 08:17:00 PM
I just had a Skype video call with my son. He called my iphone here in Berkeley from his iphone during a marathon that he is running in downtown Tokyo. His son, my one year old grandson, has been born into a generation that will someday hear about this and say "That was really primitive."
He called you in the middle of a marathon?
WTF, Japan?
The real question is: what was he wearing? (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7447.msg249779#msg249779)
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on February 27, 2012, 11:11:56 AM
Quote from: PenPho on February 27, 2012, 10:58:52 AM
Quote from: CBStew on February 25, 2012, 08:17:00 PM
I just had a Skype video call with my son. He called my iphone here in Berkeley from his iphone during a marathon that he is running in downtown Tokyo. His son, my one year old grandson, has been born into a generation that will someday hear about this and say "That was really primitive."
He called you in the middle of a marathon?
WTF, Japan?
The real question is: what was he wearing? (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7447.msg249779#msg249779)
How was he able to talk on the phone while carrying 2 55 gallon tanks of water to keep hydrated?
So since the shitty new Apple Maps app doesn't support transit directions, anybody know of a good, free app that can reproduce the transit directions that the old Google Maps app used to give me?
Quote from: R-V on September 24, 2012, 09:13:27 AM
So since the shitty new Apple Maps app doesn't support transit directions, anybody know of a good, free app that can reproduce the transit directions that the old Google Maps app used to give me?
Yea, www.androidphones.com
Quote from: R-V on September 24, 2012, 09:13:27 AM
So since the shitty new Apple Maps app doesn't support transit directions, anybody know of a good, free app that can reproduce the transit directions that the old Google Maps app used to give me?
Just go to Google Maps in Safari and install the web app. Basically works the same way.
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on September 24, 2012, 09:42:07 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 24, 2012, 09:13:27 AM
So since the shitty new Apple Maps app doesn't support transit directions, anybody know of a good, free app that can reproduce the transit directions that the old Google Maps app used to give me?
Yea, www.androidphones.com
That site doesn't work, just like your Android phone.
Quote from: Eli on September 24, 2012, 10:44:24 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 24, 2012, 09:13:27 AM
So since the shitty new Apple Maps app doesn't support transit directions, anybody know of a good, free app that can reproduce the transit directions that the old Google Maps app used to give me?
Just go to Google Maps in Safari and install the web app. Basically works the same way.
Quote
You can, however, still use Google Maps via a web browser by going to http://maps.Google.com.
The first time you load the page, it should ask for permission to use your current location, which is necessary if you want to use the web version of Google Maps. If you turned off the location services for Safari or an alternative browser, you will need to go into Settings/Privacy/Location Services and turn it back on.
To make it easier to access in the future, once the page loads, tap the share icon (the rectangle with the arrow pointing to the right) and click on 'Add to Home Screen' to add the site as an icon on the phone.
I am a pretty loyal Droid user (I have the Bionic now). With the new job, I got an iPhone 4S. It's pretty fucking cool but it has its advantages and disadvantages. Having both phones, I get pretty much the best of both worlds.
I like the Droid for the navigation, micro-USB connectivity, general Google awesomeness
The iPhone is stable and has very user-friendly interface.
I don't really use Siri and I hate the proprietary connectivity on the iPhone. The battery life on the Droid blows.
I'd imagine that with the iPhone 5 and the Samsung phones, the two get a lot closer to each other.
Both phones are pretty awesome. It really is a religious discussion these days.
Quote from: Oleg on September 24, 2012, 12:30:27 PM
It really is a religious discussion these days.
Unfortunately, this.
Quote from: Brownie on September 24, 2012, 12:36:05 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 24, 2012, 12:30:27 PM
It really is a religious discussion these days.
Unfortunately, this.
I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. It means the consumer doesn't really make a bad choice, assuming he understands what he needs in a smartphone. We can get into the whole open source vs proprietary application development but that doesn't really affect the consumer any more since there are very few applications that are only available on one platform or the other (Google maps being the most obvious exception and maybe Java; not really sure if there are actual apps that are iPhone-only).
Quote from: Oleg on September 24, 2012, 12:42:54 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 24, 2012, 12:36:05 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 24, 2012, 12:30:27 PM
It really is a religious discussion these days.
Unfortunately, this.
I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. It means the consumer doesn't really make a bad choice, assuming he understands what he needs in a smartphone. We can get into the whole open source vs proprietary application development but that doesn't really affect the consumer any more since there are very few applications that are only available on one platform or the other (Google maps being the most obvious exception and maybe Java; not really sure if there are actual apps that are iPhone-only).
So are there any plans for Google to develop a Maps app for the iphone?
Quote from: R-V on September 24, 2012, 01:42:29 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 24, 2012, 12:42:54 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 24, 2012, 12:36:05 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 24, 2012, 12:30:27 PM
It really is a religious discussion these days.
Unfortunately, this.
I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. It means the consumer doesn't really make a bad choice, assuming he understands what he needs in a smartphone. We can get into the whole open source vs proprietary application development but that doesn't really affect the consumer any more since there are very few applications that are only available on one platform or the other (Google maps being the most obvious exception and maybe Java; not really sure if there are actual apps that are iPhone-only).
So are there any plans for Google to develop a Maps app for the iphone?
I thought Apple was banishing Google to the curb for daring to develop the Android OS.
Quote from: Brownie on September 24, 2012, 01:45:21 PM
Quote from: R-V on September 24, 2012, 01:42:29 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 24, 2012, 12:42:54 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 24, 2012, 12:36:05 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 24, 2012, 12:30:27 PM
It really is a religious discussion these days.
Unfortunately, this.
I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. It means the consumer doesn't really make a bad choice, assuming he understands what he needs in a smartphone. We can get into the whole open source vs proprietary application development but that doesn't really affect the consumer any more since there are very few applications that are only available on one platform or the other (Google maps being the most obvious exception and maybe Java; not really sure if there are actual apps that are iPhone-only).
So are there any plans for Google to develop a Maps app for the iphone?
I thought Apple was banishing Google to the curb for daring to develop the Android OS.
Doubt it. Apple was busy patenting the curb
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on September 24, 2012, 02:02:24 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 24, 2012, 01:45:21 PM
Quote from: R-V on September 24, 2012, 01:42:29 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 24, 2012, 12:42:54 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 24, 2012, 12:36:05 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 24, 2012, 12:30:27 PM
It really is a religious discussion these days.
Unfortunately, this.
I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. It means the consumer doesn't really make a bad choice, assuming he understands what he needs in a smartphone. We can get into the whole open source vs proprietary application development but that doesn't really affect the consumer any more since there are very few applications that are only available on one platform or the other (Google maps being the most obvious exception and maybe Java; not really sure if there are actual apps that are iPhone-only).
So are there any plans for Google to develop a Maps app for the iphone?
I thought Apple was banishing Google to the curb for daring to develop the Android OS.
Doubt it. Apple was busy patenting the curb
Does this mean that Weebs has to pay royalties?
Or just rent?
Quote from: R-V on September 24, 2012, 01:42:29 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 24, 2012, 12:42:54 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 24, 2012, 12:36:05 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 24, 2012, 12:30:27 PM
It really is a religious discussion these days.
Unfortunately, this.
I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. It means the consumer doesn't really make a bad choice, assuming he understands what he needs in a smartphone. We can get into the whole open source vs proprietary application development but that doesn't really affect the consumer any more since there are very few applications that are only available on one platform or the other (Google maps being the most obvious exception and maybe Java; not really sure if there are actual apps that are iPhone-only).
So are there any plans for Google to develop a Maps app for the iphone?
There is. Its supposed to be out before the end of the year (admittedly a wide window). The other issue will be that any time there is a 'link' to the maps app (for example touching an address in a web page or contact), it will go to the apple maps app and not the Google app.
Quote from: PenPho on September 24, 2012, 02:22:19 PM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on September 24, 2012, 02:02:24 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 24, 2012, 01:45:21 PM
Quote from: R-V on September 24, 2012, 01:42:29 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 24, 2012, 12:42:54 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 24, 2012, 12:36:05 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 24, 2012, 12:30:27 PM
It really is a religious discussion these days.
Unfortunately, this.
I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. It means the consumer doesn't really make a bad choice, assuming he understands what he needs in a smartphone. We can get into the whole open source vs proprietary application development but that doesn't really affect the consumer any more since there are very few applications that are only available on one platform or the other (Google maps being the most obvious exception and maybe Java; not really sure if there are actual apps that are iPhone-only).
So are there any plans for Google to develop a Maps app for the iphone?
I thought Apple was banishing Google to the curb for daring to develop the Android OS.
Doubt it. Apple was busy patenting the curb
Does this mean that Weebs has to pay royalties?
Or just rent?
HE'S DEAD
Quote from: Eli on September 24, 2012, 10:44:46 AM
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Quote from: R-V on September 24, 2012, 09:13:27 AM
So since the shitty new Apple Maps app doesn't support transit directions, anybody know of a good, free app that can reproduce the transit directions that the old Google Maps app used to give me?
Yea, www.androidphones.com
That site doesn't work, just like your Android phone.
It works pretty well as it powers through 20GB of data each month.
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on September 24, 2012, 04:17:02 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 24, 2012, 10:44:46 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on September 24, 2012, 09:42:07 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 24, 2012, 09:13:27 AM
So since the shitty new Apple Maps app doesn't support transit directions, anybody know of a good, free app that can reproduce the transit directions that the old Google Maps app used to give me?
Yea, www.androidphones.com
That site doesn't work, just like your Android phone.
It works pretty well as it powers through 20GB of data each month.
This comment combined with your avatar makes me not hate my internet life for a fleeting moment.
Quote from: PenPho on September 24, 2012, 02:22:19 PM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on September 24, 2012, 02:02:24 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 24, 2012, 01:45:21 PM
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Quote from: Oleg on September 24, 2012, 12:30:27 PM
It really is a religious discussion these days.
Unfortunately, this.
I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. It means the consumer doesn't really make a bad choice, assuming he understands what he needs in a smartphone. We can get into the whole open source vs proprietary application development but that doesn't really affect the consumer any more since there are very few applications that are only available on one platform or the other (Google maps being the most obvious exception and maybe Java; not really sure if there are actual apps that are iPhone-only).
So are there any plans for Google to develop a Maps app for the iphone?
I thought Apple was banishing Google to the curb for daring to develop the Android OS.
Doubt it. Apple was busy patenting the curb
Does this mean that Weebs has to pay royalties?
Or just rent?
Weebs got his curb from his brother. His brother got it after it fell off a truck that transports stolen goods.
Quote from: Brownie on September 24, 2012, 01:45:21 PM
Quote from: R-V on September 24, 2012, 01:42:29 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 24, 2012, 12:42:54 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 24, 2012, 12:36:05 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 24, 2012, 12:30:27 PM
It really is a religious discussion these days.
Unfortunately, this.
I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. It means the consumer doesn't really make a bad choice, assuming he understands what he needs in a smartphone. We can get into the whole open source vs proprietary application development but that doesn't really affect the consumer any more since there are very few applications that are only available on one platform or the other (Google maps being the most obvious exception and maybe Java; not really sure if there are actual apps that are iPhone-only).
So are there any plans for Google to develop a Maps app for the iphone?
I thought Apple was banishing Google to the curb for daring to develop the Android OS.
http://allthingsd.com/20120926/apple-google-maps-talks-crashed-over-voice-guided-directions/
QuoteSpoken turn-by-turn navigation has been a free service offered through Google's Android mobile OS for a few years now. But it was never part of the deal that brought Google's Maps to iOS. And sources say Apple very much wanted it to be. Requiring iPhone users to look directly at handsets for directions and manually move through each step — while Android users enjoyed native voice-guided instructions — put Apple at a clear disadvantage in the mobile space. And having chosen Google as its original mapping partner, the iPhone maker was now in a position where an archrival was calling the shots on functionality important to the iOS maps feature set.
And this caused Apple — which typically enjoys very tight control over its products — no end of philosophical discomfort, sources say. Apple pushed Google hard to provide the data it needed to bring voice-guided navigation to iOS. But according to people familiar with Google's thinking, the search giant, which had invested massive sums in creating that data and views it as a key feature of Android, wasn't willing to simply hand it over to a competing platform.
And if there were terms under which it might have agreed to do so, Apple wasn't offering them. Sources tell AllThingsD that Google, for example, wanted more say in the iOS maps feature set. It wasn't happy simply providing back-end data. It asked for in-app branding. Apple declined. It suggested adding Google Latitude. Again, Apple declined. And these became major points of contention between the two companies, whose relationship was already deteriorating for a variety of other reasons, including Apple's concern that Google was gathering too much user data from the app.
"There were a number of issues inflaming negotiations, but voice navigation was the biggest," one source familiar with Apple and Google's negotiations told AllThingsD. "Ultimately, it was a deal-breaker."
Quote from: R-V on September 24, 2012, 09:13:27 AM
So since the shitty new Apple Maps app doesn't support transit directions, anybody know of a good, free app that can reproduce the transit directions that the old Google Maps app used to give me?
http://www.apple.com/letter-from-tim-cook-on-maps/
QuoteTo our customers,
At Apple, we strive to make world-class products that deliver the best experience possible to our customers. With the launch of our new Maps last week, we fell short on this commitment. We are extremely sorry for the frustration this has caused our customers and we are doing everything we can to make Maps better.
We launched Maps initially with the first version of iOS. As time progressed, we wanted to provide our customers with even better Maps including features such as turn-by-turn directions, voice integration, Flyover and vector-based maps. In order to do this, we had to create a new version of Maps from the ground up.
There are already more than 100 million iOS devices using the new Apple Maps, with more and more joining us every day. In just over a week, iOS users with the new Maps have already searched for nearly half a billion locations. The more our customers use our Maps the better it will get and we greatly appreciate all of the feedback we have received from you.
While we're improving Maps, you can try alternatives by downloading map apps from the App Store like Bing, MapQuest and Waze, or use Google or Nokia maps by going to their websites and creating an icon on your home screen to their web app.
Everything we do at Apple is aimed at making our products the best in the world. We know that you expect that from us, and we will keep working non-stop until Maps lives up to the same incredibly high standard.
Tim Cook
Apple's CEO
Should anyone care to plumb the hilarious depths of Apple's front-line support, I can recommend the following method:
1. Get somebody on the line and try to explain that it's impossible to get iTunes to reset a password if the account is registered to @[box].[domain] but $box no longer exists and, yes, at the time you just made up a fucking birthday, but you just need $box trimmed off that thing to be able to listen to what you paid for on a completely separate and, impressively, ever more defective Apple laptop.
2. Try to drag the poor fellow through the woods and explain that "the cloud" has nothing to do with the price of tea in China a few times.
3. Wait while you are eventually escalated.
4. Listen for The President's Analyst to ask whether you would like to make a call.
Quote from: Wheezer on September 30, 2012, 09:18:23 PM
Should anyone care to plumb the hilarious depths of Apple's front-line support, I can recommend the following method:
1. Get somebody on the line and try to explain that it's impossible to get iTunes to reset a password if the account is registered to @[box].[domain] but $box no longer exists and, yes, at the time you just made up a fucking birthday, but you just need $box trimmed off that thing to be able to listen to what you paid for on a completely separate and, impressively, ever more defective Apple laptop.
2. Try to drag the poor fellow through the woods and explain that "the cloud" has nothing to do with the price of tea in China a few times.
3. Wait while you are eventually escalated.
4. Listen for The President's Analyst to ask whether you would like to make a call.
I doubt Apple tech support will be bending over backwards to make AppleID resets
easier in the wake of THIS WHOLE THING (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7739.msg258023#msg258023).
(Follow up here (http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/08/mat-honan-data-recovery/all/).)
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 30, 2012, 11:42:05 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on September 30, 2012, 09:18:23 PM
Should anyone care to plumb the hilarious depths of Apple's front-line support, I can recommend the following method:
1. Get somebody on the line and try to explain that it's impossible to get iTunes to reset a password if the account is registered to @[box].[domain] but $box no longer exists and, yes, at the time you just made up a fucking birthday, but you just need $box trimmed off that thing to be able to listen to what you paid for on a completely separate and, impressively, ever more defective Apple laptop.
2. Try to drag the poor fellow through the woods and explain that "the cloud" has nothing to do with the price of tea in China a few times.
3. Wait while you are eventually escalated.
4. Listen for The President's Analyst to ask whether you would like to make a call.
I doubt Apple tech support will be bending over backwards to make AppleID resets easier in the wake of THIS WHOLE THING (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7739.msg258023#msg258023).
(Follow up here (http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/08/mat-honan-data-recovery/all/).)
If it will authenticate from the original machine with an external boot drive, I'm just stripping the DRM. Otherwise, I'm going to the People's Court, mark my words.
iTunes 11 is now out. All my iTunes purchases appeared for iCloud streaming on the MacBook Air; the digital copies of my music all reside on an iMac. That alone is pretty cool, and it's about time they overhauled the app. I'm eager to see if performance has improved, which is what almost everyone's main complaint about iTunes seems to be.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 29, 2012, 02:44:35 PM
iTunes 11 is now out. All my iTunes purchases appeared for iCloud streaming on the MacBook Air; the digital copies of my music all reside on an iMac. That alone is pretty cool, and it's about time they overhauled the app. I'm eager to see if performance has improved, which is what almost everyone's main complaint about iTunes seems to be.
iTunes has to be one of the worst music app available. It really messed up my library consolidating and organizing my music, even going as far as renaming music incorrectly (changing artists, albums, etc). It sucks at identifying duplicates. Any change has to be better than the way it's been.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 29, 2012, 02:44:35 PM
iTunes 11 is now out. All my iTunes purchases appeared for iCloud streaming on the MacBook Air; the digital copies of my music all reside on an iMac. That alone is pretty cool, and it's about time they overhauled the app. I'm eager to see if performance has improved, which is what almost everyone's main complaint about iTunes seems to be.
You can't
own music, man.
Quote from: Oleg on November 29, 2012, 03:20:56 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 29, 2012, 02:44:35 PM
iTunes 11 is now out. All my iTunes purchases appeared for iCloud streaming on the MacBook Air; the digital copies of my music all reside on an iMac. That alone is pretty cool, and it's about time they overhauled the app. I'm eager to see if performance has improved, which is what almost everyone's main complaint about iTunes seems to be.
You can't own music, man.
I can, but that's because I'm not a penniless hippie.
Some nice overlap with the Samardzija thread found here (http://rockcenter.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/06/15708290-apple-ceo-tim-cook-announces-plans-to-manufacture-mac-computers-in-usa):
QuoteThe Maps debacle [at Apple] led to the defenestration of some company executives, including reportedly Richard Williamson, who oversaw the mapping team.
So, if the admin of an Apple laptop doesn't know the password then they............? (The help on the computer suggested using the Mac OS X disc to reset the password, but I doubt that disc is anywhere to be found)
Quote from: Yeti on March 15, 2013, 11:13:17 PM
So, if the admin of an Apple laptop doesn't know the password then they............? (The help on the computer suggested using the Mac OS X disc to reset the password, but I doubt that disc is anywhere to be found)
Does one (https://discussions.apple.com/message/21273255#21273255) of these (http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/24/reset-mac-os-x-10-7-lion-password/) help?
Where's the update, Cookstink?
Quote from: PenFoe on September 18, 2013, 10:44:51 AM
Where's the update, Cookstink?
I read it was scheduled for 10 a.m. Pacific.
Quote from: Eli on September 18, 2013, 10:50:27 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on September 18, 2013, 10:44:51 AM
Where's the update, Cookstink?
I read it was scheduled for 10 a.m. Pacific.
I read somewhere that you need to update iTunes first, which makes no sense, since it's under the OS.
Quote from: Eli on September 18, 2013, 10:50:27 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on September 18, 2013, 10:44:51 AM
Where's the update, Cookstink?
I read it was scheduled for 10 a.m. Pacific.
Historically, that's been their MO, but they haven't announced or confirmed anything.
DPD.
Here's what to expect. (http://mashable.com/2013/09/18/ios-7-video-overview-2/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link)
Quote from: Yeti on March 15, 2013, 11:13:17 PM
So, if the admin of an Apple laptop doesn't know the password then they............? (The help on the computer suggested using the Mac OS X disc to reset the password, but I doubt that disc is anywhere to be found)
YOU STOLE MY LAPTOP! DIDN'T YOU YOU BASTARD?!?!
Quote from: BBM on September 22, 2013, 06:29:12 PM
Quote from: Yeti on March 15, 2013, 11:13:17 PM
So, if the admin of an Apple laptop doesn't know the password then they............? (The help on the computer suggested using the Mac OS X disc to reset the password, but I doubt that disc is anywhere to be found)
YOU STOLE MY LAPTOP! DIDN'T YOU YOU BASTARD?!?!
Yea, nice dick pics, bro
Seems too good to be true, but this is a helluva deal.
Target is currently selling last year's iPad Mini for $299 with a $25 gift card with purchase. With a $200 trade-in, you could walk away with a brand new iPad for about $75
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/target-ipad-trade-in-2013-11#ixzz2jsXT6OMW
Quote from: BH on November 06, 2013, 09:13:36 AM
Target is currently selling last year's iPad Mini for $299 with a $25 gift card with purchase. With a $200 trade-in, you could walk away with a brand new iPad for about $75
Well, for about $75 and an old iPad that would fetch $100-200 on eBay, anyway.
Downloading i0S8 now.
Don't rush, it's crawling.