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Title: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on July 29, 2010, 11:37:39 AM
This doesn't suck:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsDCt0XV-aM&a=GxdCwVVULXfsGpaNxoxraHpESYjEz-bL&playnext=3
Title: Re: Hip-Hop
Post by: Richard Chuggar on July 29, 2010, 11:44:49 AM
We get it, you think you're black and all you do is scour the youtube and look for other afros and post their videos so people can remember how hood and street you really are.
Title: Re: Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on July 29, 2010, 11:54:44 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on July 29, 2010, 11:44:49 AM
We get it, you think you're black and all you do is scour the youtube and look for other afros and post their videos so people can remember how hood and street you really are.

Or I'm white and like rap music instead of weepy-eyed queerbaits with guitars who sit around and smoke and sing boring ass love songs to other soulless douchehammers like yourself.
Title: Re: Hip-Hop
Post by: Richard Chuggar on July 29, 2010, 11:59:02 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 29, 2010, 11:54:44 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on July 29, 2010, 11:44:49 AM
We get it, you think you're black and all you do is scour the youtube and look for other afros and post their videos so people can remember how hood and street you really are.

Or I'm white and like rap music instead of weepy-eyed queerbaits with guitars who sit around and smoke and sing boring ass love songs to other soulless douchehammers like yourself.

Nope.
Title: Re: Hip-Hop
Post by: Quality Start Machine on July 29, 2010, 11:59:31 AM
Why don't you two just fucking hold hands and skip off to a Nickelback show already?
Title: Re: Hip-Hop
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on July 29, 2010, 12:08:33 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 29, 2010, 11:54:44 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on July 29, 2010, 11:44:49 AM
We get it, you think you're black and all you do is scour the youtube and look for other afros and post their videos so people can remember how hood and street you really are.

Or I'm white and like rap music instead of weepy-eyed queerbaits with guitars who sit around and smoke and sing boring ass love songs to other soulless douchehammers like yourself.

Pex's got Brooklyn in his balls. So you can see Bed-Stuy if you lookin' in his drawers.
Title: Re: Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on July 30, 2010, 09:31:33 AM
These are probably the best remixes of hip hop music that I've ever heard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbb656zn-uA&videos=A64GOgLuAAE

Here's an article about DJ Tom Caruana who did the deed. Amazing.

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/26/roll-up-the-beatles-meet-the-wu-tang-clan-in-magical-mystery-chambers/
Title: Re: Hip-Hop
Post by: Quality Start Machine on July 30, 2010, 09:52:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfJnqbudMzs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfJnqbudMzs)
Title: Re: Hip-Hop
Post by: Eli on July 30, 2010, 09:55:29 AM
Quote from: Fork on July 30, 2010, 09:52:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfJnqbudMzs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfJnqbudMzs)

I like that better than whatever Apex linked to.  It's dope.
Title: Re: Hip-Hop
Post by: Indolent Reader on July 30, 2010, 11:11:20 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 30, 2010, 09:55:29 AM
Quote from: Fork on July 30, 2010, 09:52:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfJnqbudMzs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfJnqbudMzs)

I like that better than whatever Apex linked to.  It's dope.

That song was the runner-up for my Junior Prom theme.

Pick it up, pick it up, pick it up!!!
Title: Re: Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on July 30, 2010, 11:41:18 AM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on July 30, 2010, 11:11:20 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 30, 2010, 09:55:29 AM
Quote from: Fork on July 30, 2010, 09:52:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfJnqbudMzs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfJnqbudMzs)

I like that better than whatever Apex linked to.  It's dope.

That song was the runner-up for my Junior Prom theme.

Pick it up, pick it up, pick it up!!!

The fact that it receieved more than a single vote makes your junior prom cooler than mine. I didn't attend.
Title: Re: Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on August 02, 2010, 10:13:16 AM
I don't know how much the common yeti knows about Buckshot LeFonque. It may be something you've already been hip to for a long time but they were "a musical group project of Branford Marsalis. After playing with Sting, Miles Davis and other artists, he founded this band to create a new sound by merging classical jazz sound with rock, ballad/pop, Rhythm and Blues and hip-hop influences." wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckshot_LeFonque)

Most jazz/funk afficianados who would like to dabble in hip hop only when appropriate so they don't get judged by oldbags, hipsters and Chads who would kick them out of the party and not let them smoke up their weed anymore should strongly dig this shit. And this particular track, the Salaam Remi remix of "No Pain, No Gain" was (chokes up) an inspiration for me as I left high school and began living on my own while paying my way through college. Many a time was it that I threw on an invigorating mixtape of uplifting hip hop tracks with a one-verse snippet of this song included. The snippet was on the B-side of the single for "Breakfast at Denny's" as a tease to make me want to buy the album. Which I did, but that version of that track wasn't included. Fuck my life. Until now. I found it on YouTube a week or so ago and downloaded the dogshit out of it. Now I'm posting it here, so that you don't have to go through what I did to get where you're going today. Enjoy.

No Pain, No Gain (Salaam Remi Remix) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bya4GRGjBZ4&feature=related)
Breakfast at Denny's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMrKGkKdKYU)
Music Evolution (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1s0hd2Aovg)

If this is DRLP for any of you, congratulations. You now have the Salaam Remi Remix of No Pain, No Gain. You're welcome.
Title: Re: Hip-Hop
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 02, 2010, 11:50:12 AM

You lost me at Sting.

Sting sucks.
Title: Re: Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on August 02, 2010, 12:25:20 PM
Quote from: Fork on August 02, 2010, 11:50:12 AM

You lost me at Sting.

Sting sucks.

Ok.
Title: Re: Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on August 06, 2010, 10:06:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEtPvJE1UNk
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Yeti on August 07, 2010, 09:29:15 AM
http://fliiby.com/file/67130/k1vmervgsf.html
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on August 30, 2010, 05:02:47 PM
Wikipedia is a comprehensive (and dutifully cited) source of the trivial...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulate_(song)#Synopsis

QuoteSynopsis

On a cool, clear night (typical to Southern California) Warren G travels through his neighborhood, searching for women with whom he might initiate sexual intercourse. He has chosen to engage in this pursuit alone.[6]

Nate Dogg, having just arrived in the east side of Long Beach, seeks Warren. On his way to find Warren, Nate passes a car full of women who are excited to see him. Regardless, he insists to the women that there is no cause for excitement.

Warren makes a left turn at 21st Street and Lewis Ave, in the East Hill/Salt Lake neighborhood[7], where he sees a group of young men enjoying a game of dice together. He parks his car and greets them. He is excited to find people to play with, but to his chagrin, he discovers they intend to relieve him of his material possessions. Once the hopeful robbers reveal their firearms, Warren realizes he is in a less than favorable predicament.

Meanwhile, Nate passes the women, as they are low on his list of priorities. His primary concern is locating Warren. After curtly casting away the strumpets (whose interest in Nate was such that they crashed their automobile), he serendipitously stumbles upon his friend, Warren G, being held up by the young miscreants.

Warren, unaware that Nate is surreptitiously observing the scene unfold, is in disbelief that he is being robbed. The perpetrators have taken jewelry and a Rolex Watch from Warren, who is so incredulous that he asks what else the robbers intend to steal. This is most likely a rhetorical question.

Observing these unfortunate proceedings, Nate realizes that he may have to use his firearm to deliver his friend from harm.

The tension crescendos as the robbers point their guns to Warren's head. Warren senses the gravity of his situation. He cannot believe the events unfolding could happen in his own neighborhood. As he imagines himself making a fantastical escape, he catches a glimpse of his friend, Nate.

Nate has seventeen cartridges (sixteen residing in the pistol's magazine, with a solitary round placed in the chamber and ready to be fired) to expend on the group of robbers. Afterward, he generously shares the credit for neutralizing the situation with Warren, though it is clear that Nate did all of the difficult work. Putting congratulations aside, Nate quickly reminds himself that he has committed multiple homicides to save Warren before letting his friend know that there are females nearby if he wishes to fornicate with them.

Warren recalls that it was the promise of copulation that coaxed him away from his previous activities, and is thankful that Nate knows a way to satisfy these urges. Nate quickly finds the women who earlier crashed their car on Nate's account. He remarks to one that he is fond of her physical appeal. The woman, impressed by Nate's singing ability, asks that he and Warren allow her and her friends to share transportation. Soon, both friends are driving with automobiles full of women to the East Side Motel, presumably to consummate their flirtation in an orgy.

The third verse is more expository, with Warren and Nate explaining their G Funk musical style. Warren displays his bravado by daring anyone to approach the style. There follows a brief discussion of the genre's musicological features, with special care taken to point out that in said milieu the rhythm is not in fact the rhythm, as one might assume, but actually the bass. Similarly the bass serves a purpose closer to that which the treble would in more traditional musical forms. Nate displays his bravado by claiming that individuals with equivalent knowledge could not even attempt to approach his level of lyrical mastery. Nate goes on to note that if any third party smokes as he does, they would find themselves in a state of intoxication almost daily (from Nate's other works, it can be inferred that the substance referenced is marijuana[8]). Nate concludes his delineation of the night by issuing a threat to "busters," suggesting that he and Warren will further "regulate" any potential incidents in the future (presumably by engaging their antagonists with small arms fire).

...

[6] "Regulate Lyrics - Warren G". Lyricsfreak.com. http://www.lyricsfreak.com/w/warren+g/regulate_20145246.html. Retrieved 2010-08-19.
[7] Long Beach Neighborhood Services (2010-04-02), The List: List of Neighborhood Groups 2010, http://www.longbeach.gov/civica/filebank/blobdload.asp?BlobID=26997, retrieved 2010-08-02
[8] A recurring theme in Nate Dogg's work includes known references to marijuana, including Indo Smoke, Bag O' Weed, and the coda of The Next Episode, which includes the imperative: "Smoke weed everyday"
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on August 30, 2010, 09:23:43 PM
Wow. I don't know if that was worth the effort but I laughed a whole bunch at it.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Simmer on September 06, 2010, 05:55:30 PM
How legit is Mobb Deep's Hell on Earth?  If every rap album had atmospheric beats like this one, I'd own a thousand.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on September 08, 2010, 11:56:46 AM
Quote from: Simmer on September 06, 2010, 05:55:30 PM
How legit is Mobb Deep's Hell on Earth?  If every rap album had atmospheric beats like this one, I'd own a thousand.

I agree. I'd buy about six more albums and reach that magic number like yesterday. I particularly like the track "Drop A Gem On 'Em" in which the Infamous duo obliterate the then-soon-to-expire Tupac Shakur. Nobody, not even Biggie stepped to Pac like that on wax and he never got a chance to bark back because well... heh heh heh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-PXPJHQ6Bc

"Who shot ya? You probably screamed louder than a opera..."
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on September 08, 2010, 01:33:56 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 08, 2010, 11:56:46 AM
Quote from: Simmer on September 06, 2010, 05:55:30 PM
How legit is Mobb Deep's Hell on Earth?  If every rap album had atmospheric beats like this one, I'd own a thousand.

I agree. I'd buy about six more albums and reach that magic number like yesterday. I particularly like the track "Drop A Gem On 'Em" in which the Infamous duo obliterate the then-soon-to-expire Tupac Shakur. Nobody, not even Biggie stepped to Pac like that on wax and he never got a chance to bark back because well... heh heh heh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-PXPJHQ6Bc

"Who shot ya? You probably screamed louder than a opera..."

But Pac was merely concerned that Prodigy might engage in activities that could trigger an acute sickle cell crisis and wished to caution him accordingly.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on September 08, 2010, 02:54:13 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 08, 2010, 01:33:56 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 08, 2010, 11:56:46 AM
Quote from: Simmer on September 06, 2010, 05:55:30 PM
How legit is Mobb Deep's Hell on Earth?  If every rap album had atmospheric beats like this one, I'd own a thousand.

I agree. I'd buy about six more albums and reach that magic number like yesterday. I particularly like the track "Drop A Gem On 'Em" in which the Infamous duo obliterate the then-soon-to-expire Tupac Shakur. Nobody, not even Biggie stepped to Pac like that on wax and he never got a chance to bark back because well... heh heh heh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-PXPJHQ6Bc

"Who shot ya? You probably screamed louder than a opera..."

But Pac was merely concerned that Prodigy might engage in activities that could trigger an acute sickle cell crisis and wished to caution him accordingly.

Right. If you play "Hit 'Em Up" backwards, it says just that. And that Pac was worried about Biggie getting diabetes as well as Faith Evans and something about cervicle cysts being no laughing matter and what not.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on September 09, 2010, 11:22:19 PM
Hey, Sim. Who loves ya more than Pex?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNzHru2eckw
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on September 09, 2010, 11:42:11 PM
The Hip-Hop version of GET OFF MY LAWN!!!111!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEzfmLra87E)
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on October 26, 2010, 11:37:29 AM
Giant Panda

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGU9Nmy897w&feature=list_related&a=GxdCwVVULXee4f1abyaQE-bza11MNAt1&list=ML&playnext=1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_Panda_(group)
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on March 18, 2011, 01:03:24 PM
Don't be a Chad. Check out this dude Action Bronson's entire catalogue. His debut album Dr. Lecter is out on iTunes. It's the best hip-hop album I've bought in a long ass time.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=action+bronson&aq=f
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on March 19, 2011, 09:50:02 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 18, 2011, 01:03:24 PM
Don't be a Chad. Check out this dude Action Bronson's entire catalogue. His debut album Dr. Lecter is out on iTunes. It's the best hip-hop album I've bought in a long ass time.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=action+bronson&aq=f

I listened to Imported Goods and bought the album. Then I went back to watch his cooking videos. This is the greatest thing since the last thing.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on March 19, 2011, 11:38:47 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 19, 2011, 09:50:02 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 18, 2011, 01:03:24 PM
Don't be a Chad. Check out this dude Action Bronson's entire catalogue. His debut album Dr. Lecter is out on iTunes. It's the best hip-hop album I've bought in a long ass time.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=action+bronson&aq=f

I listened to Imported Goods and bought the album. Then I went back to watch his cooking videos. This is the greatest thing since the last thing.

THI x Infinity.

Imported Goods isn't on the album but it's on his Bon Appetite mixtape, also available on iTunes along with a song called Re-Elect Dinkins, which sounds like it was made in 1993. Which is a good thing.

The following video is Chad Kryptonite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnyyficfliM
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Bort on March 19, 2011, 01:19:32 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 19, 2011, 09:50:02 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 18, 2011, 01:03:24 PM
Don't be a Chad. Check out this dude Action Bronson's entire catalogue. His debut album Dr. Lecter is out on iTunes. It's the best hip-hop album I've bought in a long ass time.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=action+bronson&aq=f

I listened to Imported Goods and bought the album. Then I went back to watch his cooking videos. This is the greatest thing since the last thing.

The cooking videos are the shit.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on March 20, 2011, 09:12:50 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 19, 2011, 11:38:47 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 19, 2011, 09:50:02 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 18, 2011, 01:03:24 PM
Don't be a Chad. Check out this dude Action Bronson's entire catalogue. His debut album Dr. Lecter is out on iTunes. It's the best hip-hop album I've bought in a long ass time.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=action+bronson&aq=f

I listened to Imported Goods and bought the album. Then I went back to watch his cooking videos. This is the greatest thing since the last thing.

THI x Infinity.

Imported Goods isn't on the album but it's on his Bon Appetite mixtape, also available on iTunes along with a song called Re-Elect Dinkins, which sounds like it was made in 1993. Which is a good thing.

The following video is Chad Kryptonite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnyyficfliM

Seriously, thanks for making my week, Pex. I'm going to be bumping this for the foreseeable future.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hadfatj4e-Y&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wVNYFgeFJQ&feature=related

Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on March 20, 2011, 11:02:15 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 20, 2011, 09:12:50 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 19, 2011, 11:38:47 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 19, 2011, 09:50:02 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 18, 2011, 01:03:24 PM
Don't be a Chad. Check out this dude Action Bronson's entire catalogue. His debut album Dr. Lecter is out on iTunes. It's the best hip-hop album I've bought in a long ass time.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=action+bronson&aq=f

I listened to Imported Goods and bought the album. Then I went back to watch his cooking videos. This is the greatest thing since the last thing.

H

Seriously, thanks for making my week, Pex. I'm going to be bumping this for the foreseeable future.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hadfatj4e-Y&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wVNYFgeFJQ&feature=related



Hells yes. Meyhem Lauren's debut album is due out right around now too. I own several joints off it. If you buy and the Amazon.com wizard tells you that you might also like J-Love's album, he's lying. J-Love is a great DJ but he needs to not rap or speak or appear on camera ever.

THI x Infinity.

Imported Goods isn't on the album but it's on his Bon Appetite mixtape, also available on iTunes along with a song called Re-Elect Dinkins, which sounds like it was made in 1993. Which is a good thing.

The following video is Chad Kryptonite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnyyficfliM
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Richard Chuggar on March 20, 2011, 04:42:20 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 20, 2011, 11:02:15 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 20, 2011, 09:12:50 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 19, 2011, 11:38:47 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 19, 2011, 09:50:02 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 18, 2011, 01:03:24 PM
Don't be a Chad. Check out this dude Action Bronson's entire catalogue. His debut album Dr. Lecter is out on iTunes. It's the best hip-hop album I've bought in a long ass time.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=action+bronson&aq=f

I listened to Imported Goods and bought the album. Then I went back to watch his cooking videos. This is the greatest thing since the last thing.

Hells yes. Meyhem Lauren's debut album is due out right around now too. I own several joints off it. If you buy and the Amazon.com wizard tells you that you might also like J-Love's album, he's lying. J-Love is a great DJ but he needs to not rap or speak or appear on camera ever.

THI x Infinity.

Imported Goods isn't on the album but it's on his Bon Appetite mixtape, also available on iTunes along with a song called Re-Elect Dinkins, which sounds like it was made in 1993. Which is a good thing.

The following video is Chad Kryptonite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnyyficfliM

Seriously, thanks for making my week, Pex. I'm going to be bumping this for the foreseeable future.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hadfatj4e-Y&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wVNYFgeFJQ&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE3E-9qu6Sc
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on March 23, 2011, 08:02:52 PM
Oh, ok. So if that Action Bronson is an honest to sky creature five mic album, then Ghostaface's Apollo Kids is like a 7.

Holy fuck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgIUT2LEW14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8zqFmaQvZw

This one's my joint:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Glnr2CxntFI

I bet Ghost loses more money on samples then any MC ever. He just doesn't fucking care. May he live a thousand years.

EDIT:

Jesus Christ!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA46JGZavxI
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Richard Chuggar on March 23, 2011, 08:26:01 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 23, 2011, 08:02:52 PM
Oh, ok. So if that Action Bronson is an honest to sky creature five mic album, then Ghostaface's Apollo Kids is like a 7.

Holy fuck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgIUT2LEW14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8zqFmaQvZw

This one's my joint:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Glnr2CxntFI

I bet Ghost loses more money on samples then any MC ever. He just doesn't fucking care. May he live a thousand years.

EDIT:

Jesus Christ!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA46JGZavxI


You are the whitest person I know
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on March 23, 2011, 08:29:43 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on March 23, 2011, 08:26:01 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 23, 2011, 08:02:52 PM
Oh, ok. So if that Action Bronson is an honest to sky creature five mic album, then Ghostaface's Apollo Kids is like a 7.

Holy fuck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgIUT2LEW14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8zqFmaQvZw

This one's my joint:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Glnr2CxntFI

I bet Ghost loses more money on samples then any MC ever. He just doesn't fucking care. May he live a thousand years.

EDIT:

Jesus Christ!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA46JGZavxI


You are the whitest person I know

Why don't you go queer up some other thread? Nobody likes you here.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Slaky on March 24, 2011, 07:47:17 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 23, 2011, 08:02:52 PM
Oh, ok. So if that Action Bronson is an honest to sky creature five mic album, then Ghostaface's Apollo Kids is like a 7.

Holy fuck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgIUT2LEW14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8zqFmaQvZw

This one's my joint:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Glnr2CxntFI

I bet Ghost loses more money on samples then any MC ever. He just doesn't fucking care. May he live a thousand years.

EDIT:

Jesus Christ!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA46JGZavxI


All you had to say was Pete Rock. Though Ghost sells himself.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 15, 2011, 06:02:56 AM
Shit's gettin' real (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UFc1pr2yUU).
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Richard Chuggar on June 15, 2011, 07:12:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM2NocuEihw
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on June 15, 2011, 12:28:31 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 15, 2011, 07:12:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM2NocuEihw


I don't get it.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on November 20, 2012, 03:46:55 PM
Madlib's Monk Hughes and The Outer Realm-presented by- DJ Illegit-AKA Aden James Dueitt Piazza

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dH-gWGYHN8&feature=context-vrec
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on December 14, 2012, 10:00:00 PM
Stand up. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXzHOOuCYZc)
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on April 29, 2013, 09:07:26 AM
Warm It Up Kane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0P6coCFM6o

The Symphony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r-5cb8FaHk

Aint No Half Steppin'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l2O-JOXG_I

Smooth Operator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CivihbG_A0
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Gilgamesh on May 02, 2013, 02:13:52 AM
I'm just going to leave this here for Apex: http://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/1d79kk/i_just_saw_danny_brown_get_his_dick_sucked_on/
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on May 02, 2013, 09:28:32 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 02, 2013, 02:13:52 AM
I'm just going to leave this here for Apex: http://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/1d79kk/i_just_saw_danny_brown_get_his_dick_sucked_on/

That's ... I got nothin'.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on May 21, 2013, 01:58:39 PM
The American Enterprise Institute is counting down the 21 greatest conservative rap songs of all time.

Beginning with #21: Justin Bieber featuring Busta Rhymes, "Drummer Boy" (2011). (http://www.aei-ideas.org/2013/05/the-21-greatest-conservative-rap-songs-of-all-time-part-1/)

(http://i.imgur.com/52CLq9Y.jpg)

"Word up, G." —AEI Research Fellow Stan Veuger


(Via. (http://www.newrepublic.com/article/113246/best-conservative-rap-songs-aeis-hilarious-list#))
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Saul Goodman on May 21, 2013, 02:11:01 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 21, 2013, 01:58:39 PM
The American Enterprise Institute is counting down the 21 greatest conservative rap songs of all time.

Beginning with #21: Justin Bieber featuring Busta Rhymes, "Drummer Boy" (2011). (http://www.aei-ideas.org/2013/05/the-21-greatest-conservative-rap-songs-of-all-time-part-1/)

[photo]

"Word up, G." —AEI Research Fellow Stan Veuger


(Via. (http://www.newrepublic.com/article/113246/best-conservative-rap-songs-aeis-hilarious-list#))

And I thought Bleacher Report's pagination was bad.  If AEI doesn't work out, Stan should be the politics reporter for the Onion.  Just tell him it's a regular newspaper, sit back, and enjoy.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on July 04, 2013, 10:38:35 AM
Jay-Z's Magna Carta, Holy Grail is damn good hip hop. I had no expectations for this album whatsoever but if I have to hear it elevnty bajillion times this summer, I could do a lot worse.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on July 04, 2013, 08:50:22 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 04, 2013, 10:38:35 AM
Jay-Z's Magna Carta, Holy Grail is damn good hip hop. I had no expectations for this album whatsoever but if I have to hear it elevnty bajillion times this summer, I could do a lot worse.

I'm on my second time through (I had people talking over most of it the first time). It definitely bangs. The lyrics aren't Jig's best but it's definitely solid all around. I'm surprised he led off the album with Holy Grail when, frankly, Timberlake completely stole the show on it.

Grab Run The Jewels if you haven't already -- free download, just need to provide an email address: http://www.foolsgoldrecs.com/runthejewels/
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on July 05, 2013, 06:30:42 PM
Fuck it. I love this album.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on July 12, 2013, 10:55:55 PM
Related. (http://probs99.tumblr.com)
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on August 02, 2013, 07:14:27 AM
As good as that Jay-Z album was, the album mixtape of the year is right here:

http://potholesinmyblog.com/download-pete-rock-and-camp-lo-80-blocks-from-tiffanys-part-2/

Free Download right chea. Get it on deck, homies.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on August 12, 2013, 10:29:33 AM
Apollo Brown Instrumental Album, "Skilled Trade." Click and like.

http://www.no-buzz.net/2013/08/12/apollo-brown-skilled-trade-instrumental-album/

Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on November 01, 2013, 09:01:39 AM
Action Bronson "Blue Chips 2" droppage today.

http://www.complex.com/music/2013/11/action-bronson-party-supplies-blue-chips-2
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on December 10, 2013, 10:22:34 AM
This is a thing that will happen in two days.

http://stupiddope.com/2013/12/10/busta-rhymes-q-tip-the-abstract-the-dragon-trailer-video/


Busta Rhymes and Q-Tip Mixtape. Merry Christmas to me.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 11:36:07 AM
Pex, this is pretty good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_uay-1RHCg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_uay-1RHCg)
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Internet Apex on December 10, 2013, 11:37:13 AM
Quote from: Slaky on December 10, 2013, 11:36:07 AM
Pex, this is pretty good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_uay-1RHCg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_uay-1RHCg)

Yes it is. Thank you.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on December 21, 2013, 10:29:06 PM
Merry Christmas. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ5rI461KNE&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on December 23, 2013, 09:05:48 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on December 21, 2013, 10:29:06 PM
Merry Christmas. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ5rI461KNE&feature=youtu.be)

That's ill as fuck. Thanks.

El-P and Killer Mike? I'm downloading the Christ out of that.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on December 24, 2013, 03:01:33 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on December 23, 2013, 09:05:48 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on December 21, 2013, 10:29:06 PM
Merry Christmas. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ5rI461KNE&feature=youtu.be)

That's ill as fuck. Thanks.

El-P and Killer Mike? I'm downloading the Christ out of that.

It's free. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7449.msg267420#msg267420)
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on January 30, 2014, 09:58:01 AM
Yasiin Gaye

http://amerigo.bandcamp.com/album/yasiin-gaye-inner-city-travellin-man

No Pause Necessary.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Saul Goodman on February 09, 2014, 04:34:07 PM
Waiting for Peck's review of this (http://fistintheair.com/2014/02/08/martellus-bennett-year-of-the-orange-dinosaur-mixtape-free-download/).
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on February 10, 2014, 09:14:21 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on February 09, 2014, 04:34:07 PM
Waiting for Peck's review of this (http://fistintheair.com/2014/02/08/martellus-bennett-year-of-the-orange-dinosaur-mixtape-free-download/).

I'll have it up shortly. I may be brief depending on how much of this mixtape I can tolerate.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on February 10, 2014, 09:44:08 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 10, 2014, 09:14:21 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on February 09, 2014, 04:34:07 PM
Waiting for Peck's review of this (http://fistintheair.com/2014/02/08/martellus-bennett-year-of-the-orange-dinosaur-mixtape-free-download/).

I'll have it up shortly. I may be brief depending on how much of this mixtape I can tolerate.

It's actually decent. I don't know how many tracks are keepers but it's honest and well-produced. If he were trying to sell it I'd have some other opinions but it's a free mixtape and it's good hip hop. If there's one track on here worth saving for later I'd call it a huge success.

I'm not mad at this at all.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: PenFoe on February 14, 2014, 12:46:47 PM
In case this interests anyone...

All Of De La Soul's Albums Available For Free Download Today (http://gothamist.com/2014/02/14/all_of_de_la_souls_albums_available.php)
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on March 15, 2014, 06:58:42 AM
New Jay Electronica release.

https://soundcloud.com/cracktracks504/jay-electronica-better-in-tune

The song was mentioned on the Act II tracklist he released a few years back:

http://pitchfork.com/news/47298-jay-electronica-shares-album-tracklist/

Possible sploosh.

Edit: Well, fuck. Apparently all anyone had to do to get new Jay Elec was ask (https://twitter.com/Erick_Grady/status/444651844204126208).

(http://i.imgur.com/hPQ1LOs.png)
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Tonker on March 15, 2014, 08:19:23 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 15, 2014, 06:58:42 AM
New Jay Electronica release.

https://soundcloud.com/cracktracks504/jay-electronica-better-in-tune

The song was mentioned on the Act II tracklist he released a few years back:

http://pitchfork.com/news/47298-jay-electronica-shares-album-tracklist/

Possible sploosh.

Edit: Well, fuck. Apparently all anyone had to do to get new Jay Elec was ask (https://twitter.com/Erick_Grady/status/444651844204126208).

(http://i.imgur.com/hPQ1LOs.png)

That's fucking beautiful.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on March 15, 2014, 08:29:12 AM
Quote from: Tonker on March 15, 2014, 08:19:23 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 15, 2014, 06:58:42 AM
New Jay Electronica release.

https://soundcloud.com/cracktracks504/jay-electronica-better-in-tune

The song was mentioned on the Act II tracklist he released a few years back:

http://pitchfork.com/news/47298-jay-electronica-shares-album-tracklist/

Possible sploosh.

Edit: Well, fuck. Apparently all anyone had to do to get new Jay Elec was ask (https://twitter.com/Erick_Grady/status/444651844204126208).

(http://i.imgur.com/hPQ1LOs.png)

That's fucking beautiful.

Indeed. If you like it, you'll probably enjoy Jay's Act I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErLrTCSIKuw) which is produced nearly entirely from samples off Jon Brion's outstanding soundtrack from "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind."
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on March 15, 2014, 08:47:25 AM
While we're on the subject, I thought this was interesting reading:

http://noisey.vice.com/en_uk/blog/the-prestige-the-five-percenters-and-why-jay-electronica-hasnt-released-his-debut-album

QuoteUnderstandably, for anyone with more than a casual interest in hip-hop, Act II: Patents of Nobility (The Turn) is the Holy Grail. Jay has tweeted on two occasions that the album is complete, once in 2011, and again, with a purposed tracklist, in July 2012. But, with no fixed release date, and a half-decade wait, anticipation for the record has reached both a fever point, and dismissal. Rap fans who believe that artists owe them something, rather than the other way round, have been demanding Jay release his record. But they're slightly missing the point. It is meant to be a Holy Grail.

Let's take into account the two titles for both records – (The Pledge) and (The Turn) – and contextualise them next to this quote from the film, The Prestige. Let Michael Caine explain.

"Every great magic trick consists of three parts or acts. The first part is called "The Pledge". The magician shows you something ordinary: a deck of cards, a bird or a man. He shows you this object. Perhaps he asks you to inspect it to see if it is indeed real, unaltered, normal. But of course... it probably isn't. The second act is called "The Turn". The magician takes the ordinary something and makes it do something extraordinary. Now you're looking for the secret... but you won't find it, because of course you're not really looking. You don't really want to know. You want to be fooled. But you wouldn't clap yet. Because making something disappear isn't enough; you have to bring it back. That's why every magic trick has a third act, the hardest part, the part we call "The Prestige"."

QuoteIf we take the The Prestige theory into account, then Jay Electronica has already released his Pledge. Act I seemed ordinary, built upon a cult film soundtrack, but it wasn't. It was special. Now, with the disappearance of its follow up, he has made "the ordinary something... do something extraordinary", by generating a truckload of hype for something that doesn't exist. Because it's all part of an elaborate magic trick, if we follow the theory, the only way that the record can come out is with the conclusion, The Prestige. Once Act III is released as the culmination of the trick, it is only then, that Act II will make sense, or be discovered.

I think he's probably stretching the analogy a bit, but it's interesting that the album names are each called some different phase of a magic trick and I think it would be incredible if Jay has already released Act II anonymously or under an alias so it gets completely ignored by the people who constantly chug his dong (not excluding myself, here).

Then he could drop Act III and say "Oh, by the way, here's the YouTube link to Act II which I uploaded back in 2012 and has 57 views." The theory sort of falls apart when you consider the track list has Kanye and Jay-Z on it, but a white boy can dream.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on March 17, 2014, 07:10:44 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 15, 2014, 08:47:25 AM
While we're on the subject, I thought this was interesting reading:

http://noisey.vice.com/en_uk/blog/the-prestige-the-five-percenters-and-why-jay-electronica-hasnt-released-his-debut-album

QuoteUnderstandably, for anyone with more than a casual interest in hip-hop, Act II: Patents of Nobility (The Turn) is the Holy Grail. Jay has tweeted on two occasions that the album is complete, once in 2011, and again, with a purposed tracklist, in July 2012. But, with no fixed release date, and a half-decade wait, anticipation for the record has reached both a fever point, and dismissal. Rap fans who believe that artists owe them something, rather than the other way round, have been demanding Jay release his record. But they're slightly missing the point. It is meant to be a Holy Grail.

Let's take into account the two titles for both records – (The Pledge) and (The Turn) – and contextualise them next to this quote from the film, The Prestige. Let Michael Caine explain.

"Every great magic trick consists of three parts or acts. The first part is called "The Pledge". The magician shows you something ordinary: a deck of cards, a bird or a man. He shows you this object. Perhaps he asks you to inspect it to see if it is indeed real, unaltered, normal. But of course... it probably isn't. The second act is called "The Turn". The magician takes the ordinary something and makes it do something extraordinary. Now you're looking for the secret... but you won't find it, because of course you're not really looking. You don't really want to know. You want to be fooled. But you wouldn't clap yet. Because making something disappear isn't enough; you have to bring it back. That's why every magic trick has a third act, the hardest part, the part we call "The Prestige"."

QuoteIf we take the The Prestige theory into account, then Jay Electronica has already released his Pledge. Act I seemed ordinary, built upon a cult film soundtrack, but it wasn't. It was special. Now, with the disappearance of its follow up, he has made "the ordinary something... do something extraordinary", by generating a truckload of hype for something that doesn't exist. Because it's all part of an elaborate magic trick, if we follow the theory, the only way that the record can come out is with the conclusion, The Prestige. Once Act III is released as the culmination of the trick, it is only then, that Act II will make sense, or be discovered.

I think he's probably stretching the analogy a bit, but it's interesting that the album names are each called some different phase of a magic trick and I think it would be incredible if Jay has already released Act II anonymously or under an alias so it gets completely ignored by the people who constantly chug his dong (not excluding myself, here).

Then he could drop Act III and say "Oh, by the way, here's the YouTube link to Act II which I uploaded back in 2012 and has 57 views." The theory sort of falls apart when you consider the track list has Kanye and Jay-Z on it, but a white boy can dream.

If he were to pull that off, he would get some consideration for the top spot of MC's all-time. I myself would Stan for him until I passed on. That's quite a bit more interesting and artistic than say, releasing your new album "exclusively" to Samsung phone users. Wouldn't you say?
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on March 17, 2014, 01:52:32 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 17, 2014, 07:10:44 AM
If he were to pull that off, he would get some consideration for the top spot of MC's all-time. I myself would Stan for him until I passed on. That's quite a bit more interesting and artistic than say, releasing your new album "exclusively" to Samsung phone users. Wouldn't you say?

I don't know about "top spot of MC's all-time." If Act II and III are up to par with the material he's released to date then that'd be three legit classics. And if it were to pass that Act II was released to zero fanfare (followed by a year or two of people pissing themselves for a year or two in anticipation of its release) then ... I don't know -- maybe?

It's just a theory. From what I've read/seen/heard, he strikes me as the kind of guy who gives few if any fucks about all of the trappings of being famous. It seems plausible to me that he, more than any other artist I can think of, would (or at least, could) pull it off. He probably got a decent amount of scratch by signing with Rocafella and bangs Erykah Badu on the daily. Why work your ass off to crank out half-baked mixtape after mixtape like everyone else in the game when not releasing music gets you more cred and a wider audience?
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on March 17, 2014, 01:58:01 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 17, 2014, 01:52:32 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 17, 2014, 07:10:44 AM
If he were to pull that off, he would get some consideration for the top spot of MC's all-time. I myself would Stan for him until I passed on. That's quite a bit more interesting and artistic than say, releasing your new album "exclusively" to Samsung phone users. Wouldn't you say?

I don't know about "top spot of MC's all-time." If Act II and III are up to par with the material he's released to date then that'd be three legit classics. And if it were to pass that Act II was released to zero fanfare (followed by a year or two of people pissing themselves for a year or two in anticipation of its release) then ... I don't know -- maybe?

It's just a theory. From what I've read/seen/heard, he strikes me as the kind of guy who gives few if any fucks about all of the trappings of being famous. It seems plausible to me that he, more than any other artist I can think of, would (or at least, could) pull it off. He probably got a decent amount of scratch by signing with Rocafella and bangs Erykah Badu on the daily. Why work your ass off to crank out half-baked mixtape after mixtape like everyone else in the game when not releasing music gets you more cred and a wider audience?

He and Erykah split a long time ago, though they do have a child together. He's currently shacking up with billionaire heiress Kate Rothschild, which explains part of his comfort with surviving minus the spoils that would befit one of the most talented MCs ever to put pen to pad and breath upon recording device.

http://theurbandaily.com/2013/07/07/jay-electronica-and-kate-rothschild-the-illuminati-couple-explained-video/

In which Jay expresses his feelings about his split with Erykah back in 2009:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz0TSAc1y2k
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on March 17, 2014, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 17, 2014, 01:58:01 PM
http://theurbandaily.com/2013/07/07/jay-electronica-and-kate-rothschild-the-illuminati-couple-explained-video/

WTF did I just watch?
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 07:25:27 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 17, 2014, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 17, 2014, 01:58:01 PM
http://theurbandaily.com/2013/07/07/jay-electronica-and-kate-rothschild-the-illuminati-couple-explained-video/

WTF did I just watch?

I don't know. I didn't watch. It's just an example of how weird this dude's life is. When I say that he can get promoted toward the pantheon of great MCs if he "pulls this off" I mean that his "prestige" will have to be what we all hope it would be or better. It would need to blow Kendrick's album out of the water. I believe that's possible. But hell B.I.G dropped two albums and people say he's the greatest of all time. People hardly question it. Whenever I think about his short career and want to challenge that notion myself I listen to "Gimme The Loot" or "Kick In The Door" and just kind of shake my head and go with it. With "Exhibit A" and "Exhibit C" already in hand, I'd be willing to pontificate for Jay Elec based on one (1) all-time great album.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on March 18, 2014, 09:51:14 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 07:25:27 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 17, 2014, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 17, 2014, 01:58:01 PM
http://theurbandaily.com/2013/07/07/jay-electronica-and-kate-rothschild-the-illuminati-couple-explained-video/

WTF did I just watch?

I don't know. I didn't watch. It's just an example of how weird this dude's life is. When I say that he can get promoted toward the pantheon of great MCs if he "pulls this off" I mean that his "prestige" will have to be what we all hope it would be or better. It would need to blow Kendrick's album out of the water. I believe that's possible. But hell B.I.G dropped two albums and people say he's the greatest of all time. People hardly question it. Whenever I think about his short career and want to challenge that notion myself I listen to "Gimme The Loot" or "Kick In The Door" and just kind of shake my head and go with it. With "Exhibit A" and "Exhibit C" already in hand, I'd be willing to pontificate for Jay Elec based on one (1) all-time great album.

After thinking about this, I'm reconsidering.

Just looking around online, the "consensus" (if you can call it one) puts Jay-Z, Nas, 2Pac, and BIG among the top 4 with probably Rakim as the 5th. I'd mostly agree with that. Rakim was a bit before my time and I admittedly haven't listened to enough of his catalog to provide a really informed opinion.

I was thinking about this a bit like HOF worthiness but I don't think that's the right lens. The HOF rewards guys with long careers (good portions of which are mediocre as they age but allow them the guy to accumulate counting stats). Fuck Dale Murphy.

Now, if we're talking about greatness in terms of MC-ness, I'd rather have Koufax-like careers -- three classics and nothing else rather than two mediocre albums and five shitty ones. Those five shitty albums that sold 10 million copies off your name alone do me absolutely nothing -- I'm not listening to them, so fuck them.


I'll argue hard for Big L just based off the quality/quantity ratio. He may be a good comp for Electron, actually. Common should probably be in the discussion, too. And others, but then it's not a top 5. Eminem also put out three classics and then a decade of basically garbage. He might bump BIG off my list, actually now that I think about it.

So, I think you're probably right w/re to Electron.

If Jay drops Act II and III... and if they're up to snuff with Act I, Exhibit A, Exhibit C ... he lands somewhere on the list. And, if it turns out that Act II was "in the wild" for a year or two before being announced, it would be fucking legendary status. Crown his ass. But, lot's of ifs in there.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 10:40:41 AM
Great post. Some reactions:

1. I've always been a KRS-One guy. His contributions to the art form itself can't be ignored, nor can his stature as a philosopher and a live performer (this is a HUGE part of MC'ing, lest we forget). He steered the culture in the right direction against all odds during his reign at the top. I think there need to be more people who Stan for The Teacher, so I'm sticking with this for good or ill. "You can be a mack, a pimp, hustla or playa. Just make sure LIVE you are a dope rhyme-saya."

2. "All Eyez On Me" is fucking garbage. "Strictly 4 My..." is the second best Tupac album hands-down.

3. Big L is that MC that people like to talk about being the all-time great because it makes them sound cool. I love the guy's work but it's kind of a hipster thing to do. He died so you can't prove he wasn't that great. But is he really better than three other guys in his own DITC crew? Lord Finesse, O.C. and A.G. are criminally overlooked. He had potential and personality, sure, but shit. This is like calling Mark Prior the best pitcher ever in my opinion.

4. Eminem fell off musically, if not lyrically after his second album. I haven't bought or listened to shit since the 8-Mile Soundtrack.

5. Common does deserve a look as does Mos Def if we're going that route. Many people will argue for Andre 3000. And somehow Ice Cube never comes up, but he should.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Yeti on March 18, 2014, 10:56:29 AM
Nelly

/thread
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 11:07:38 AM
Quote from: Yeti on March 18, 2014, 10:56:29 AM
Nelly

/thread

Derp.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on March 18, 2014, 11:18:41 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 10:40:41 AM
Great post. Some reactions:

1. I've always been a KRS-One guy. His contributions to the art form itself can't be ignored, nor can his stature as a philosopher and a live performer (this is a HUGE part of MC'ing, lest we forget). He steered the culture in the right direction against all odds during his reign at the top. I think there need to be more people who Stan for The Teacher, so I'm sticking with this for good or ill. "You can be a mack, a pimp, hustla or playa. Just make sure LIVE you are a dope rhyme-saya."

2. "All Eyez On Me" is fucking garbage. "Strictly 4 My..." is the second best Tupac album hands-down.

3. Big L is that MC that people like to talk about being the all-time great because it makes them sound cool. I love the guy's work but it's kind of a hipster thing to do. He died so you can't prove he wasn't that great. But is he really better than three other guys in his own DITC crew? Lord Finesse, O.C. and A.G. are criminally overlooked. He had potential and personality, sure, but shit. This is like calling Mark Prior the best pitcher ever in my opinion.

4. Eminem fell of musically, if not lyrically after his second album. I haven't bought or listened to shit since the 8-Mile Soundtrack.

5. Common does deserve a look as does Mos Def if we're going that route. Many people will argue for Andre 3000. And somehow Ice Cube never comes up, but he should.

1. Fair enough.

2. Disagree. I like Strictly but I'd put it a close 4th behind Makaveli. Not at all sure how you can say All Eyez on Me is garbage. I'm fine writing off most of the posthumous stuff, but All Eyez on Me is essential and I'd probably have worn out my copy by now (if I were still listening to a physical copy).

3. Maybe it's because I live in lily-white flyover country, but I never run across anyone who knows the guy. I guess I'm that Big L hipster, then. L has hands down the most lines that actually made me spit-take on first listen. Lifestylez doesn't have a weak track and most of it's gold. The Big Picture's a slight step down, but I don't think there's anything on it that you can write off. The guy had tons of absolutely genius lines.

4. He did fall off (I'm guessing you mean after MMLP, his third album?). I'll still give him Eminem Show but it's definitely on a different rung altogether from SSLP and MMLP. Some of that's because it wasn't as dark as the first two albums (it definitely foreshadowed the next decade of shit he pumped out), but there's enough meat on it for me.

5. Cube doesn't come up because of his film career. Not that it's a legit reason to dismiss what he did, but I can see why people forget how subversive and badass he was 20-25 years ago when all you see anymore is him playing the street-wise black suburban dad role.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 12:57:57 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 18, 2014, 11:18:41 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 10:40:41 AM
Great post. Some reactions:

1. I've always been a KRS-One guy. His contributions to the art form itself can't be ignored, nor can his stature as a philosopher and a live performer (this is a HUGE part of MC'ing, lest we forget). He steered the culture in the right direction against all odds during his reign at the top. I think there need to be more people who Stan for The Teacher, so I'm sticking with this for good or ill. "You can be a mack, a pimp, hustla or playa. Just make sure LIVE you are a dope rhyme-saya."

2. "All Eyez On Me" is fucking garbage. "Strictly 4 My..." is the second best Tupac album hands-down.

3. Big L is that MC that people like to talk about being the all-time great because it makes them sound cool. I love the guy's work but it's kind of a hipster thing to do. He died so you can't prove he wasn't that great. But is he really better than three other guys in his own DITC crew? Lord Finesse, O.C. and A.G. are criminally overlooked. He had potential and personality, sure, but shit. This is like calling Mark Prior the best pitcher ever in my opinion.

4. Eminem fell of musically, if not lyrically after his second album. I haven't bought or listened to shit since the 8-Mile Soundtrack.

5. Common does deserve a look as does Mos Def if we're going that route. Many people will argue for Andre 3000. And somehow Ice Cube never comes up, but he should.

1. Fair enough.

2. Disagree. I like Strictly but I'd put it a close 4th behind Makaveli. Not at all sure how you can say All Eyez on Me is garbage. I'm fine writing off most of the posthumous stuff, but All Eyez on Me is essential and I'd probably have worn out my copy by now (if I were still listening to a physical copy).

3. Maybe it's because I live in lily-white flyover country, but I never run across anyone who knows the guy. I guess I'm that Big L hipster, then. L has hands down the most lines that actually made me spit-take on first listen. Lifestylez doesn't have a weak track and most of it's gold. The Big Picture's a slight step down, but I don't think there's anything on it that you can write off. The guy had tons of absolutely genius lines.

4. He did fall off (I'm guessing you mean after MMLP, his third album?). I'll still give him Eminem Show but it's definitely on a different rung altogether from SSLP and MMLP. Some of that's because it wasn't as dark as the first two albums (it definitely foreshadowed the next decade of shit he pumped out), but there's enough meat on it for me.

5. Cube doesn't come up because of his film career. Not that it's a legit reason to dismiss what he did, but I can see why people forget how subversive and badass he was 20-25 years ago when all you see anymore is him playing the street-wise black suburban dad role.

My problems with "All Eyez On Me" could be influenced by my staunch support for the East during the Coastal War of the mid-90s. Also, Death Row was in the process of alienating and losing Dre and Snoop due to its, let's say, unsound business practices and I could see that coming so I had even more reason to discredit it. Tupac, as the legend has it, would show up to the studio during the production of that album and record a handful of songs in one evening on one take and then leave. He did this for several weeks, which is why there is so much posthumous Tupac material around. The label took what they considered the best of that material and slopped it together on a double album. If Tupac, at the height of his powers then, had decided to focus on making a great record instead of whatever the fuck else/starting beef/getting killed, I would bet that "All Eyez On Me" would sound far different than it does. How any mature enthusiast of the genre can listen to that and not hear the lack of fucks given is beyond me. Musically, it's trash. Lyrically, it's brash and angry, but very repetitive and hardly original. Tupac's voice and presence, ever his saving graces, carry it to the point that people will call it something that I don't think it ever was.

Compare to "Life After Death" or "Wu-Tang Forever" and it lacks the depth lyrically, the punch musically, and the relevance currently.  

And after saying all that, I'll disclose that I believe had Tupac not died young that he would have become the greatest MC ever by such a margin that nobody would ever be able to eclipse his star. The Michael Jordan of this shit.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 01:03:51 PM
Also: Ghostface Killah says hi to both of us.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Saul Goodman on March 18, 2014, 02:52:01 PM
Macklemore, guys.  Duh.  He thought he could draw, and that means you're gay.

Seriously though, I only listen to hip hop occasionally and wouldn't call myself an authority on ... anything, but the posts in this discussion made for some great reading.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on March 18, 2014, 05:13:29 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 01:03:51 PM
Also: Ghostface Killah says hi to both of us.

Ghostface's solo stuff fell off a pretty good deal, but if you're putting him up for what he did while in Wu Tang, sure.

Black Thought says 'sup, too.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 05:33:55 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 18, 2014, 05:13:29 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 01:03:51 PM
Also: Ghostface Killah says hi to both of us.

Ghostface's solo stuff fell off a pretty good deal, but if you're putting him up for what he did while in Wu Tang, sure.

Black Thought says 'sup, too.

I'm talking Ghost's solo stuff. I can't believe you don't fuck with it. Black Thought is fucking incredible.

Q-Tip and Posdnus don't get enough credit either, mostly, I think because they're in groups. I think Tip is the best all-around artist (M.C., Producer, D.J.) ever. There's a much shorter list of dudes in that conversation. And I think we might ought to transition because we're now at the part where we just start naming dope as fuck MCs until everybody gets bored and starts listening to Sam Cooke or something.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Bort on March 18, 2014, 06:09:35 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 18, 2014, 05:13:29 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 01:03:51 PM
Also: Ghostface Killah says hi to both of us.

Ghostface's solo stuff fell off a pretty good deal, but if you're putting him up for what he did while in Wu Tang, sure.

Black Thought says 'sup, too.

Ghostface's appearance on Cuban Linx alone merits some sort of award.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Bort on March 18, 2014, 06:11:03 PM
DPD.

You can tell I'm super white because my favorite MC is Chuck D.*


*Not the desipiot.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on March 18, 2014, 06:21:02 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 05:33:55 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 18, 2014, 05:13:29 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 01:03:51 PM
Also: Ghostface Killah says hi to both of us.

Ghostface's solo stuff fell off a pretty good deal, but if you're putting him up for what he did while in Wu Tang, sure.

Black Thought says 'sup, too.

I'm talking Ghost's solo stuff. I can't believe you don't fuck with it. Black Thought is fucking incredible.

Q-Tip and Posdnus don't get enough credit either, mostly, I think because they're in groups. I think Tip is the best all-around artist (M.C., Producer, D.J.) ever. There's a much shorter list of dudes in that conversation. And I think we might ought to transition because we're now at the part where we just start naming dope as fuck MCs until everybody gets bored and starts listening to Sam Cooke or something.

I listened to Pretty Toney back when it first came out. I wanted to like it but found myself just skipping tracks and never went back. I went back for another album a few years later, maybe Ghostdini? Same story. I'll give him another shot. Maybe I wasn't in the right mood. What do you recommend of his stuff since Supreme Clientele?
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 07:39:54 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 18, 2014, 06:21:02 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 05:33:55 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 18, 2014, 05:13:29 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 01:03:51 PM
Also: Ghostface Killah says hi to both of us.

Ghostface's solo stuff fell off a pretty good deal, but if you're putting him up for what he did while in Wu Tang, sure.

Black Thought says 'sup, too.


I'm talking Ghost's solo stuff. I can't believe you don't fuck with it. Black Thought is fucking incredible.

Q-Tip and Posdnus don't get enough credit either, mostly, I think because they're in groups. I think Tip is the best all-around artist (M.C., Producer, D.J.) ever. There's a much shorter list of dudes in that conversation. And I think we might ought to transition because we're now at the part where we just start naming dope as fuck MCs until everybody gets bored and starts listening to Sam Cooke or something.

I listened to Pretty Toney back when it first came out. I wanted to like it but found myself just skipping tracks and never went back. I went back for another album a few years later, maybe Ghostdini? Same story. I'll give him another shot. Maybe I wasn't in the right mood. What do you recommend of his stuff since Supreme Clientele?

Well, Bulletproof Wallets is very good. Fishscale is crazy.

And Apollo Kids????? Sweet Jesus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8zqFmaQvZw&feature=kp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEIKYCy7crE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cKR0LvFUYE

I don't listen to Pretty Tony much either.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 07:45:52 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 18, 2014, 06:11:03 PM
DPD.

You can tell I'm super white because my favorite MC is Chuck D.*


*Not the desipiot.

Nothing wrong with that at all.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on March 18, 2014, 09:14:36 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 07:39:54 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 18, 2014, 06:21:02 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 05:33:55 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 18, 2014, 05:13:29 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 01:03:51 PM
Also: Ghostface Killah says hi to both of us.

Ghostface's solo stuff fell off a pretty good deal, but if you're putting him up for what he did while in Wu Tang, sure.

Black Thought says 'sup, too.


I'm talking Ghost's solo stuff. I can't believe you don't fuck with it. Black Thought is fucking incredible.

Q-Tip and Posdnus don't get enough credit either, mostly, I think because they're in groups. I think Tip is the best all-around artist (M.C., Producer, D.J.) ever. There's a much shorter list of dudes in that conversation. And I think we might ought to transition because we're now at the part where we just start naming dope as fuck MCs until everybody gets bored and starts listening to Sam Cooke or something.

I listened to Pretty Toney back when it first came out. I wanted to like it but found myself just skipping tracks and never went back. I went back for another album a few years later, maybe Ghostdini? Same story. I'll give him another shot. Maybe I wasn't in the right mood. What do you recommend of his stuff since Supreme Clientele?

Well, Bulletproof Wallets is very good. Fishscale is crazy.

And Apollo Kids????? Sweet Jesus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8zqFmaQvZw&feature=kp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEIKYCy7crE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cKR0LvFUYE

I don't listen to Pretty Tony much either.

Holy shit, TIFL. Thanks for the heads up. I've got an all-nighter ahead of me and will be bumping some Tony Starks.

On a related note, I should mention that RapGenius has stepped it's fucking game up. I remember maybe a year or two ago that the only lyrics sites were sketchy in every respect (bad lyrics, YouTube quality comments, ad-infested, etc). I went to check out some of the lyrics for "In the Park (http://rapgenius.com/Ghostface-killah-in-tha-park-lyrics)" (which Ghostface and Black Thought absolutely murdered) and what do I find? Black Thought himself is on the site annotating his own verses. I just stanned in my boxer-briefs.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on March 18, 2014, 09:30:26 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 18, 2014, 06:09:35 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 18, 2014, 05:13:29 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 01:03:51 PM
Also: Ghostface Killah says hi to both of us.

Ghostface's solo stuff fell off a pretty good deal, but if you're putting him up for what he did while in Wu Tang, sure.

Black Thought says 'sup, too.

Ghostface's appearance on Cuban Linx alone merits some sort of award.

He actually did win an award for his verse on Impossible (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZOYm3YkLWQ) off Wu-Tang Forever. It's around 2:40 in and will melt your balls off.

Per RapGenius (http://rapgenius.com/Wu-tang-clan-impossible-lyrics):
QuoteA warning from the Clan about the increased crime rates. Most of the attention goes to the legendary Ghostface verse, which was hailed by RZA as "the greatest Wu-Tang verse ever written", and took home Verse of the Year in The Source.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on March 18, 2014, 10:43:30 PM
Another county heard from (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vladimir-putins-top-aide-vladislav-surkov-mocks-us-sanctions-the-only-thing-that-interests-me-about-the-us-is-tupac-and-i-dont-need-a-visa-for-that-9200170.html):

QuoteA top aide to President Vladimir Putin has laughed off the sanctions imposed by the US, saying the only thing he likes about America is Tupac, and he "doesn't need a visa" to listen to rap music.

Vladislav Surkov, one of the seven Russian officials slapped with White House sanctions, told a Russian newspaper being on America's blacklist is a "big honour" for him.

He added: "The only things that interest me in the US are Tupac Shakur, Allen Ginsberg, and Jackson Pollock. I don't need a visa to access their work. I lose nothing."
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on March 19, 2014, 03:22:40 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 18, 2014, 05:13:29 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 01:03:51 PM
Also: Ghostface Killah says hi to both of us.

Ghostface's solo stuff fell off a pretty good deal, but if you're putting him up for what he did while in Wu Tang, sure.

Black Thought says 'sup, too.

Striking this from the record. Apollo Kids and Fishscale are top notch.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on March 19, 2014, 03:26:11 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 19, 2014, 03:22:40 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 18, 2014, 05:13:29 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 18, 2014, 01:03:51 PM
Also: Ghostface Killah says hi to both of us.

Ghostface's solo stuff fell off a pretty good deal, but if you're putting him up for what he did while in Wu Tang, sure.

Black Thought says 'sup, too.

Striking this from the record. Apollo Kids and Fishscale are top notch.

Not Solo but I forgot about this too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Reasons_to_Die

Wow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USd3ay54C3g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyB3rx3-K5c
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on March 19, 2014, 03:39:04 PM
This just happened on Grantland today. I haven't read it yet.

http://grantland.com/features/wu-tang-clan-20th-anniversary-reunion-rza-gza-ghostface/
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on March 23, 2014, 11:02:00 AM
More new Jay Electron. We Made It - Ft. Jay-Z (https://soundcloud.com/cracktracks504/we-made-it-jay-z-x-jay)

Drake gets slapped around.

It's not listed on the Act II tracklist, but:

QuoteApologies go out to all of my fans because they waited so patiently

Something's coming. So am I. Splooge.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on March 25, 2014, 03:49:43 AM
It's a few months old, but I was reminded of this when I went to relisten to "Better in Tune."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKcRsZHz_6E

This beat is absolutely filthy. Both verses are sick in and of themselves, but they complement each other perfectly.

I'll admit, I give bonus points to anyone still dropping lines about Starter jackets.

QuoteNigga, I was crack in the school zone
Two beepers on me, Starter jacket that was two toned
Four lockers, four different bitches got their mule on
Black Ferris Bueller, cutting school with his jewels on
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on March 26, 2014, 06:29:49 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 19, 2014, 03:39:04 PM
This just happened on Grantland today. I haven't read it yet.

http://grantland.com/features/wu-tang-clan-20th-anniversary-reunion-rza-gza-ghostface/

Why Wu-Tang Will Release Just One Copy Of Its Secret Album: (http://www.forbes.com/sites/zackomalleygreenburg/2014/03/26/why-wu-tang-will-release-just-one-copy-of-its-secret-album/)

QuoteSomewhere on the outskirts of Marrakech, Morocco, inside a vault housed beneath the shadow of the Atlas Mountains, there sits an engraved silver-and-nickel box with the potential to spawn a shift in the way music is consumed and monetized.

The lustrous container was handcrafted over the course of three months by British-Moroccan artist Yahya, whose works have been commissioned by royal families and business leaders around the world. Soon, it will contain a different sort of art piece: the Wu-Tang Clan's double-album The Wu – Once Upon A Time In Shaolin, recorded in secret over the past few years.

...

"We're about to sell an album like nobody else sold it before," says Robert "RZA" Diggs, the first Wu-Tang member to speak on record about Once Upon A Time In Shaolin, in an exclusive interview with FORBES. "We're about to put out a piece of art like nobody else has done in the history of [modern] music.  We're making a single-sale collector's item. This is like somebody having the scepter of an Egyptian king."

Wu-Tang's aim is to use the album as a springboard for the reconsideration of music as art, hoping the approach will help restore it to a place alongside great visual works–and create a shift in the music business, not to mention earn some cash, in the process. The one-of-a-kind launch will be a separate endeavor from the group's 20th anniversary album, A Better Tomorrow, which is set for a standard commercial release this summer.

According to RZA and the album's main producer Tarik "Cilvaringz" Azzougarh, a Morocco-based part of Wu-Tang's extended family, the plan is to first take Once Upon A Time In Shaolin on a "tour" through museums, galleries, festivals and the like. Just like a high-profile exhibit at a major institution, there will be a cost to attend, likely in the $30-$50 range.

Visitors will go through heavy security to ensure that recording devices aren't smuggled in; as an extra precaution, they'll likely have to listen to the 128-minute album's 31 songs on headphones provided by the venue. As Cilvaringz puts it: "One leak of this thing nullifies the entire concept."

...

Once the album completes its excursion, Wu-Tang will make it available for purchase for a price "in the millions." Suitors could include brands willing to shell out for cool points and free publicity (just as Samsung spent $5 million to buy copies of Jay Z's latest album for its users) or major record labels hoping to launch the album through the usual channels (they're used to paying top acts seven-figure advances).

There's also the possibility that a wealthy private citizen could buy it and either keep the album or release it to the public for free in the name of democratizing a cultural artifact....
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Slaky on March 26, 2014, 07:19:15 PM
Well that's quite an experiment.

Who's to say criminals aren't already plotting to find a way to steal the music and release it?

Gonna have to set up a google alert for this.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Bort on March 27, 2014, 08:13:40 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 26, 2014, 07:19:15 PM
Well that's quite an experiment.

Who's to say criminals aren't already plotting to find a way to steal the music and release it?

Gonna have to set up a google alert for this.

I am definitely intrigued.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on March 27, 2014, 08:42:31 AM
Quote from: Bort on March 27, 2014, 08:13:40 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 26, 2014, 07:19:15 PM
Well that's quite an experiment.

Who's to say criminals aren't already plotting to find a way to steal the music and release it?

Gonna have to set up a google alert for this.

I am definitely intrigued.

It's probably 31 Cappadonna/U-God tracks. I was intrigued up until I read that they are going to sell the thing for millions of dollars. Once that happens it will be all over the internet and lost among the already insanely-diluted Wu catalog. And nobody will be like, "This extremely rare Wu-Tang album was in museums, man!"

I kind of dig the concept of trying to restore music as a fine art form, but to do all that and then sell it anyway? RZA, Bobby Digital, Abbot, Bobby Steele, Prince Rakeem... who are you crappin?  
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Bort on March 27, 2014, 01:59:34 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 27, 2014, 08:42:31 AM
Quote from: Bort on March 27, 2014, 08:13:40 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 26, 2014, 07:19:15 PM
Well that's quite an experiment.

Who's to say criminals aren't already plotting to find a way to steal the music and release it?

Gonna have to set up a google alert for this.

I am definitely intrigued.

It's probably 31 Cappadonna/U-God tracks. I was intrigued up until I read that they are going to sell the thing for millions of dollars. Once that happens it will be all over the internet and lost among the already insanely-diluted Wu catalog. And nobody will be like, "This extremely rare Wu-Tang album was in museums, man!"

I kind of dig the concept of trying to restore music as a fine art form, but to do all that and then sell it anyway? RZA, Bobby Digital, Abbot, Bobby Steele, Prince Rakeem... who are you crappin?  

Never in all of known human history has non-liturgical fine art created for public consumption not been for sale.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on March 27, 2014, 02:30:12 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 27, 2014, 01:59:34 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 27, 2014, 08:42:31 AM
Quote from: Bort on March 27, 2014, 08:13:40 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 26, 2014, 07:19:15 PM
Well that's quite an experiment.

Who's to say criminals aren't already plotting to find a way to steal the music and release it?

Gonna have to set up a google alert for this.

I am definitely intrigued.

It's probably 31 Cappadonna/U-God tracks. I was intrigued up until I read that they are going to sell the thing for millions of dollars. Once that happens it will be all over the internet and lost among the already insanely-diluted Wu catalog. And nobody will be like, "This extremely rare Wu-Tang album was in museums, man!"

I kind of dig the concept of trying to restore music as a fine art form, but to do all that and then sell it anyway? RZA, Bobby Digital, Abbot, Bobby Steele, Prince Rakeem... who are you crappin?  

Never in all of known human history has non-liturgical fine art created for public consumption not been for sale.

Liturgical art tended to be paid for as well. Often quite handsomely.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on March 27, 2014, 02:44:01 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 27, 2014, 02:30:12 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 27, 2014, 01:59:34 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 27, 2014, 08:42:31 AM
Quote from: Bort on March 27, 2014, 08:13:40 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 26, 2014, 07:19:15 PM
Well that's quite an experiment.

Who's to say criminals aren't already plotting to find a way to steal the music and release it?

Gonna have to set up a google alert for this.

I am definitely intrigued.

It's probably 31 Cappadonna/U-God tracks. I was intrigued up until I read that they are going to sell the thing for millions of dollars. Once that happens it will be all over the internet and lost among the already insanely-diluted Wu catalog. And nobody will be like, "This extremely rare Wu-Tang album was in museums, man!"

I kind of dig the concept of trying to restore music as a fine art form, but to do all that and then sell it anyway? RZA, Bobby Digital, Abbot, Bobby Steele, Prince Rakeem... who are you crappin?  

Never in all of known human history has non-liturgical fine art created for public consumption not been for sale.

Liturgical art tended to be paid for as well. Often quite handsomely.

I stand corrected. I still think this will prove to be a jerkoff of epic proportion based on the current state of the Wu Empire. Unless this was recorded sometime between 1993-96, I'll bet you it halfway sucks. I love the Wu and everything it stands for. But that franchise is the New York Knicks right now.

Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Quality Start Machine on March 27, 2014, 04:18:39 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 27, 2014, 02:44:01 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on March 27, 2014, 02:30:12 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 27, 2014, 01:59:34 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 27, 2014, 08:42:31 AM
Quote from: Bort on March 27, 2014, 08:13:40 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 26, 2014, 07:19:15 PM
Well that's quite an experiment.

Who's to say criminals aren't already plotting to find a way to steal the music and release it?

Gonna have to set up a google alert for this.

I am definitely intrigued.

It's probably 31 Cappadonna/U-God tracks. I was intrigued up until I read that they are going to sell the thing for millions of dollars. Once that happens it will be all over the internet and lost among the already insanely-diluted Wu catalog. And nobody will be like, "This extremely rare Wu-Tang album was in museums, man!"

I kind of dig the concept of trying to restore music as a fine art form, but to do all that and then sell it anyway? RZA, Bobby Digital, Abbot, Bobby Steele, Prince Rakeem... who are you crappin?  

Never in all of known human history has non-liturgical fine art created for public consumption not been for sale.

Liturgical art tended to be paid for as well. Often quite handsomely.

I stand corrected. I still think this will prove to be a jerkoff of epic proportion based on the current state of the Wu Empire. Unless this was recorded sometime between 1993-96, I'll bet you it halfway sucks. I love the Wu and everything it stands for. But that franchise is the New York Knicks right now.



I hope some dude in Dubai pays a fuckload for it, just so nobody ever hears it.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on April 15, 2014, 09:23:32 PM
... (http://ambrosiaforheads.com/2014/04/to-all-the-strong-freestyles-in-2014-locksmiths-latest-may-take-your-seat-video/)
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on April 29, 2014, 04:07:52 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152215672379272
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Slaky on April 29, 2014, 04:55:06 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 29, 2014, 04:07:52 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152215672379272

going in with no idea what this was going to be made it extra special.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: PenFoe on April 29, 2014, 05:18:54 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 29, 2014, 04:55:06 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 29, 2014, 04:07:52 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152215672379272

going in with no idea what this was going to be made it extra special.

Stolen for the comments - here is that same woman as part of a  3-person Rap Sign Language battle (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ1btfwMqlE#t=22) on Jimmy Kimmel.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on May 04, 2014, 10:03:08 AM
ib4chuckd (http://rappers.mdaniels.com.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com):

QuoteLiterary elites love to rep Shakespeare's vocabulary: across his entire corpus, he uses 28,829 words, suggesting he knew over 100,000 words and arguably had the largest vocabulary, ever.

I decided to compare this data point against the most famous artists in hip hop. I used each artist's first 35,000 lyrics. That way, prolific artists, such as Jay-Z, could be compared to newer artists, such as Drake.

Spoiler: Wu-Tang Clan Ain't Nuthing Ta Fuck Wit.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on June 13, 2014, 03:30:00 PM
That "dusted" New York sound of the 1990s is making a comeback. For those of us who will forever stay rooted in that era, there are groups that create that old school, underground, real hip hop. Here is one of them. Enjoy.

http://ambrosiaforheads.com/2014/06/the-dusted-hip-hop-renaissance-in-new-york-city-continues-with-timeless-truths-dominican-diner-ep/

Timeless Truths

Dominican Diner

Free EP!
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on October 24, 2014, 07:59:21 AM
BBBBBBBUMP.

Run the Jewels 2. Now available for free download:

http://www.runthejewels.net/ (http://www.runthejewels.net/)
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on October 27, 2014, 09:25:17 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on October 24, 2014, 07:59:21 AM
BBBBBBBUMP.

Run the Jewels 2. Now available for free download:

http://www.runthejewels.net/ (http://www.runthejewels.net/)

*Jordan over Ehlo fist pump*
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Tonker on November 27, 2014, 05:48:19 AM
Freddie Gibbs and Madlib's latest LP, Piñata, is jolly good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbxcPy1qJTU
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on December 01, 2014, 09:08:44 AM
Quote from: Tonker on November 27, 2014, 05:48:19 AM
Freddie Gibbs and Madlib's latest LP, Piñata, is jolly good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbxcPy1qJTU

I'm all in for any project Madlib contributes to. Gibbs is a rapper from Gary, Ind. who I would never have paid the slightest bit of attention to had it not been for his affiliation with the Beat Konducta.

The way Madlib makes a run of the mill gangsta rapper like Gibbs sound listenable is reminiscent of the yeoman work D.J. Premier did with Group Home back in Gangstarr's heyday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI264qcI2lo

Possibly the most lackluster rap duo ever to record a timeless classic LP.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on December 15, 2014, 01:47:11 PM
What's good?

New albums from:
J.Cole - Buy it.
Wu-Tang - Avoid it and mourn for a better yesterday.
Ghostface - Buy the peediddlysnot out of it.
Diamond D - Pick through it and buy several highlights.
Pryhme - (Royce and Premier) - Ditto.
D'Angelo - Buy it, make love to your old lady to it then lie in bed staring at the ceiling while she brings you a glass of water because you just gave her the fuck of her life after she'd pretty much given up on your dead ass a couple years, pounds, babies or whatevers ago.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on February 09, 2015, 03:25:28 PM
Joey Bada$$

"B4.DA.$$"

Another excellent example of young kids making old rap. Check it out and take what interests you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlCxiBC006w

I'm a fan.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Tonker on February 10, 2015, 02:20:52 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 09, 2015, 03:25:28 PM
Joey Bada$$

"B4.DA.$$"

Another excellent example of young kids making old rap. Check it out and take what interests you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlCxiBC006w

I'm a fan.

I'm logged into work and that's regionally restricted so it will have to wait until tonight.  I did watch a video of your man visiting a chicken and waffle house in NY, though, which made me hard, and hungry.  I've got to say, I fucking love the crossover between hip hop and good food.  Action Bronson might just have started something, because I will watch that shit all fucking day, motherfucker (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21PkfEkyfa4).
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Slaky on February 10, 2015, 08:32:46 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 09, 2015, 03:25:28 PM
Joey Bada$$

"B4.DA.$$"

Another excellent example of young kids making old rap. Check it out and take what interests you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlCxiBC006w

I'm a fan.

Immediately a fan of this
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on February 10, 2015, 11:07:05 AM
Quote from: Slaky on February 10, 2015, 08:32:46 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 09, 2015, 03:25:28 PM
Joey Bada$$

"B4.DA.$$"

Another excellent example of young kids making old rap. Check it out and take what interests you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlCxiBC006w

I'm a fan.

Immediately a fan of this

Joey is the leader of a New York hip hop collective known as Pro Era. There are like 50 dudes in that group no lie. And everything I've heard from them is as dope as this Joey Bada$$ album. Mixtape after mixtape after dope ass mixtape. They're like nerdy New York black kids who got into the music their parents came up on instead of following the trends or whatever the fuck Kanye thinks he's doing. Eventually that happens in all genres of music but hip hop is so young that it's a fairly new phenomenon. As older fans of rap, we've gotten progressively disoriented with the new music and wondered why nobody makes the good old boom bap music anymore. Most of our favorites who still try either come up empty or eventually dabble in newness because Art! or something.

These kids don't give a fuck. It's still 1993 to them and some of them weren't even born when Brand Nubian's "One For All" dropped.

Fuck sake. Life is beautiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fg08Hjwdo0
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on February 10, 2015, 11:11:37 AM
Pro Era - School High

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrO4Dus0iH8
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Slaky on February 11, 2015, 11:03:09 AM
That's why I love shit like this so much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG1OmNB8wiw
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on March 06, 2015, 10:12:39 AM
New (old) Jay Electronica.

https://soundcloud.com/cracktracks504/road-to-perdition
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on March 06, 2015, 10:45:04 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on March 06, 2015, 10:12:39 AM
New (old) Jay Electronica.

https://soundcloud.com/cracktracks504/road-to-perdition

Yo!
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: InternetApex on March 06, 2015, 10:47:31 AM
I hope you guys have March 24 colored with happy crayons in your day planners.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Wonderful_%28Action_Bronson_album%29
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Tonker on March 06, 2015, 02:08:07 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 06, 2015, 10:47:31 AM
I hope you guys have March 24 colored with happy crayons in your day planners.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Wonderful_%28Action_Bronson_album%29

I fucking love Action Bronson.
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: ChuckD on March 06, 2015, 02:57:59 PM
Quote from: Tonker on March 06, 2015, 02:08:07 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 06, 2015, 10:47:31 AM
I hope you guys have March 24 colored with happy crayons in your day planners.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Wonderful_%28Action_Bronson_album%29

I fucking love Action Bronson.

Well, then you're probably going to like this news:

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.32586/title.action-bronsons-fuck-thats-delicious-coming-to-cable-tv
Title: Re: Real Hip-Hop
Post by: Tonker on May 01, 2019, 04:53:14 PM
I thought I'd just point out that Jay Electronica is on tour this year and if his planned appearance in the Netherlands is anything to go by, he's playing small venues - "Bitterzoet" in Amsterdam is tiny - capacity of a couple of hundred, max.  He's playing the Promontory on 31st May.