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Title: Batman books
Post by: Slaky on August 10, 2012, 10:30:09 PM
I just finished The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller.

Good fucking god was that a grim story. Reminded me of Watchmen a little bit with the semi-apocalyptic event. I mean that in a good way and I'm guessing that's probably some kind of sin in comicland of which I know little about.

I picked up a ton of other ones I only vaguely know about but am really looking forward to getting through.

The Killing Joke is next.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: CT III on August 11, 2012, 07:58:34 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 10, 2012, 10:30:09 PM
I just finished The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller.

Good fucking god was that a grim story. Reminded me of Watchmen a little bit with the semi-apocalyptic event. I mean that in a good way and I'm guessing that's probably some kind of sin in comicland of which I know little about.

I picked up a ton of other ones I only vaguely know about but am really looking forward to getting through.

The Killing Joke is next.

A little advice - do NOT read The Dark Knight Strikes Again.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Bort on August 11, 2012, 02:07:04 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 11, 2012, 07:58:34 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 10, 2012, 10:30:09 PM
I just finished The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller.

Good fucking god was that a grim story. Reminded me of Watchmen a little bit with the semi-apocalyptic event. I mean that in a good way and I'm guessing that's probably some kind of sin in comicland of which I know little about.

I picked up a ton of other ones I only vaguely know about but am really looking forward to getting through.

The Killing Joke is next.

A little advice - do NOT read The Dark Knight Strikes Again.

Also overrated to awful: Hush and The Cult.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Slaky on August 11, 2012, 04:13:27 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 11, 2012, 07:58:34 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 10, 2012, 10:30:09 PM
I just finished The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller.

Good fucking god was that a grim story. Reminded me of Watchmen a little bit with the semi-apocalyptic event. I mean that in a good way and I'm guessing that's probably some kind of sin in comicland of which I know little about.

I picked up a ton of other ones I only vaguely know about but am really looking forward to getting through.

The Killing Joke is next.

A little advice - do NOT read The Dark Knight Strikes Again.

Terrible?

I was leafing through and it seemed like the art was half-assed.

The Killing Joke took me no time to get through - very cool story and excellent artwork.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on August 12, 2012, 02:45:58 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 11, 2012, 04:13:27 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 11, 2012, 07:58:34 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 10, 2012, 10:30:09 PM
I just finished The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller.

Good fucking god was that a grim story. Reminded me of Watchmen a little bit with the semi-apocalyptic event. I mean that in a good way and I'm guessing that's probably some kind of sin in comicland of which I know little about.

I picked up a ton of other ones I only vaguely know about but am really looking forward to getting through.

The Killing Joke is next.

A little advice - do NOT read The Dark Knight Strikes Again.

Terrible?

I was leafing through and it seemed like the art was half-assed.

The Killing Joke took me no time to get through - very cool story and excellent artwork.

The Dark Knight Returns is outstanding, but CT is absolutely right. Don't read All Star Batman and Robin either. That thin little line between psychopath and Batman that Frank Miller walked so nicely in TDKReturns is destroyed in those two. He feeds Robin fucking rats.

Killing Joke is my all time favorite. I can't recommend Year One and The Long Halloween enough, either. They also have a beautiful two volume hardback edition of Knightfall that I'm dying to own.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on August 12, 2012, 02:50:56 PM
Also, I could put this here or in the comic book movie thread, but I've started working my way through the new PG-13 DC Animated Batman films. Year One was outstanding and was practically a shot for shot straight adaption of the novel. Also, Bryan fucking Cranston is Gordon and that should be all you need to know.

Batman: Under the Red Hood was incredible as well. Maybe the best animated Batman film of all time. It's right up there with Mask of the Phantasm. John DiMaggio is excellent as the Joker and the movie combines both the Death in the Family arc and the Under the Hood arc while somehow avoiding the few elements (Iranian ambassador Joker, anyone?) that dragged those down in the comics. The climactic scene between Batman, Red Hood, and Joker is just Batman writing at its finest.

Both of those films have me really excited for the two part animated version of The Dark Knight Returns they're doing (first part released Sept. 25, there's a trailer here: http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/820585/exclusive-batman-the-dark-knight-returns-part-1-trailer.jhtml).

Batman.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: CT III on August 12, 2012, 04:28:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 12, 2012, 02:45:58 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 11, 2012, 04:13:27 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 11, 2012, 07:58:34 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 10, 2012, 10:30:09 PM
I just finished The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller.

Good fucking god was that a grim story. Reminded me of Watchmen a little bit with the semi-apocalyptic event. I mean that in a good way and I'm guessing that's probably some kind of sin in comicland of which I know little about.

I picked up a ton of other ones I only vaguely know about but am really looking forward to getting through.

The Killing Joke is next.

A little advice - do NOT read The Dark Knight Strikes Again.

Terrible?

I was leafing through and it seemed like the art was half-assed.

The Killing Joke took me no time to get through - very cool story and excellent artwork.

The Dark Knight Returns is outstanding, but CT is absolutely right. Don't read All Star Batman and Robin either. That thin little line between psychopath and Batman that Frank Miller walked so nicely in TDKReturns is destroyed in those two. He feeds Robin fucking rats.

Killing Joke is my all time favorite. I can't recommend Year One and The Long Halloween enough, either. They also have a beautiful two volume hardback edition of Knightfall that I'm dying to own.

Miller basically seems to have gone completely nuts after the September 11th attacks (he was living in NY writing TDKR at the time) and hasn't been the same writer since.  

Also, others may differ, but I really liked the "No Man's Land" arc, which is collected in trade.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Bort on August 12, 2012, 05:56:32 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 12, 2012, 04:28:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 12, 2012, 02:45:58 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 11, 2012, 04:13:27 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 11, 2012, 07:58:34 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 10, 2012, 10:30:09 PM
I just finished The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller.

Good fucking god was that a grim story. Reminded me of Watchmen a little bit with the semi-apocalyptic event. I mean that in a good way and I'm guessing that's probably some kind of sin in comicland of which I know little about.

I picked up a ton of other ones I only vaguely know about but am really looking forward to getting through.

The Killing Joke is next.

A little advice - do NOT read The Dark Knight Strikes Again.

Terrible?

I was leafing through and it seemed like the art was half-assed.

The Killing Joke took me no time to get through - very cool story and excellent artwork.

The Dark Knight Returns is outstanding, but CT is absolutely right. Don't read All Star Batman and Robin either. That thin little line between psychopath and Batman that Frank Miller walked so nicely in TDKReturns is destroyed in those two. He feeds Robin fucking rats.

Killing Joke is my all time favorite. I can't recommend Year One and The Long Halloween enough, either. They also have a beautiful two volume hardback edition of Knightfall that I'm dying to own.

Miller basically seems to have gone completely nuts after the September 11th attacks (he was living in NY writing TDKR at the time) and hasn't been the same writer since.  

Also, others may differ, but I really liked the "No Man's Land" arc, which is collected in trade.

Miller definitely lost his mind. He's written an insane revenge fantasy called Holy Terror, that was originally going to be Batman vs. al Queda until cooler heads prevailed.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on August 12, 2012, 06:55:25 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 12, 2012, 05:56:32 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 12, 2012, 04:28:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 12, 2012, 02:45:58 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 11, 2012, 04:13:27 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 11, 2012, 07:58:34 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 10, 2012, 10:30:09 PM
I just finished The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller.

Good fucking god was that a grim story. Reminded me of Watchmen a little bit with the semi-apocalyptic event. I mean that in a good way and I'm guessing that's probably some kind of sin in comicland of which I know little about.

I picked up a ton of other ones I only vaguely know about but am really looking forward to getting through.

The Killing Joke is next.

A little advice - do NOT read The Dark Knight Strikes Again.

Terrible?

I was leafing through and it seemed like the art was half-assed.

The Killing Joke took me no time to get through - very cool story and excellent artwork.

The Dark Knight Returns is outstanding, but CT is absolutely right. Don't read All Star Batman and Robin either. That thin little line between psychopath and Batman that Frank Miller walked so nicely in TDKReturns is destroyed in those two. He feeds Robin fucking rats.

Killing Joke is my all time favorite. I can't recommend Year One and The Long Halloween enough, either. They also have a beautiful two volume hardback edition of Knightfall that I'm dying to own.

Miller basically seems to have gone completely nuts after the September 11th attacks (he was living in NY writing TDKR at the time) and hasn't been the same writer since.  

Also, others may differ, but I really liked the "No Man's Land" arc, which is collected in trade.

Miller definitely lost his mind. He's written an insane revenge fantasy called Holy Terror, that was originally going to be Batman vs. al Queda until cooler heads prevailed.

Yeah. He was also part of the brains behind the original planned Batman reboot with Darin Arinofsky, the Year One (that was nothing like the comic Year One) where Bruce Wayne was a streetwise orphan raised by a black mechanic named Big Al. Oh, and the Batmobile was a Lincoln Continental. Basically, Miller's fucking insane.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Tinker to Evers to Chance on August 12, 2012, 07:26:25 PM
All Star Batman and Robin may have sucked, but it did give us this:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/GoddamnBatman.jpg)
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Bort on August 12, 2012, 09:24:56 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on August 12, 2012, 07:26:25 PM
All Star Batman and Robin may have sucked, but it did give us this:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/GoddamnBatman.jpg)

True. And it's entertaining if you pretend it's a parody.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: CT III on August 12, 2012, 09:54:45 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 12, 2012, 09:24:56 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on August 12, 2012, 07:26:25 PM
All Star Batman and Robin may have sucked, but it did give us this:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/GoddamnBatman.jpg)

True. And it's entertaining if you pretend it's a parody.

Speaking of parody...

http://mightygodking.com/index.php/i-dont-need-your-civil-war/
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Slaky on August 12, 2012, 10:09:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 12, 2012, 02:50:56 PM
Also, I could put this here or in the comic book movie thread, but I've started working my way through the new PG-13 DC Animated Batman films. Year One was outstanding and was practically a shot for shot straight adaption of the novel. Also, Bryan fucking Cranston is Gordon and that should be all you need to know.

Batman: Under the Red Hood was incredible as well. Maybe the best animated Batman film of all time. It's right up there with Mask of the Phantasm. John DiMaggio is excellent as the Joker and the movie combines both the Death in the Family arc and the Under the Hood arc while somehow avoiding the few elements (Iranian ambassador Joker, anyone?) that dragged those down in the comics. The climactic scene between Batman, Red Hood, and Joker is just Batman writing at its finest.

Both of those films have me really excited for the two part animated version of The Dark Knight Returns they're doing (first part released Sept. 25, there's a trailer here: http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/820585/exclusive-batman-the-dark-knight-returns-part-1-trailer.jhtml).

Batman.

I just came a little. Ok, a lot.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on August 12, 2012, 11:22:16 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 12, 2012, 10:09:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 12, 2012, 02:50:56 PM
Also, I could put this here or in the comic book movie thread, but I've started working my way through the new PG-13 DC Animated Batman films. Year One was outstanding and was practically a shot for shot straight adaption of the novel. Also, Bryan fucking Cranston is Gordon and that should be all you need to know.

Batman: Under the Red Hood was incredible as well. Maybe the best animated Batman film of all time. It's right up there with Mask of the Phantasm. John DiMaggio is excellent as the Joker and the movie combines both the Death in the Family arc and the Under the Hood arc while somehow avoiding the few elements (Iranian ambassador Joker, anyone?) that dragged those down in the comics. The climactic scene between Batman, Red Hood, and Joker is just Batman writing at its finest.

Both of those films have me really excited for the two part animated version of The Dark Knight Returns they're doing (first part released Sept. 25, there's a trailer here: http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/820585/exclusive-batman-the-dark-knight-returns-part-1-trailer.jhtml).

Batman.

I just came a little. Ok, a lot.

Yep. The Nolan films incorporated about as much of The Dark Knight Returns as you possibly could for a mainstream audience. If they animate the rest of it and market it directly to us nerds, I'll take it. I'm just waiting for them to announce that they're doing The Killing Joke. Then I can box up the Nolan Trilogy, Mask of the Phantasm, Under the Red Hood, the Dark Knight Returns, and Year One with that and have them buried with me.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Canadouche on August 14, 2012, 07:37:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 10, 2012, 10:30:09 PM
I just finished The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller.

Good fucking god was that a grim story. Reminded me of Watchmen a little bit with the semi-apocalyptic event. I mean that in a good way and I'm guessing that's probably some kind of sin in comicland of which I know little about.

I picked up a ton of other ones I only vaguely know about but am really looking forward to getting through.

The Killing Joke is next.

Geek Trivia: Miller changed course halfway through DKR after having read Watchmen.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: CT III on August 14, 2012, 07:49:35 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 14, 2012, 07:37:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 10, 2012, 10:30:09 PM
I just finished The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller.

Good fucking god was that a grim story. Reminded me of Watchmen a little bit with the semi-apocalyptic event. I mean that in a good way and I'm guessing that's probably some kind of sin in comicland of which I know little about.

I picked up a ton of other ones I only vaguely know about but am really looking forward to getting through.

The Killing Joke is next.

Geek Trivia: Miller changed course halfway through DKR after having read Watchmen.

*snort*

Did he find an unfinished copy laying around the DC offices?  The final issue of DKR was published in mid-1986, Watchmen's initial publication run went from fall of 86 to fall of 87.

*adjusts glasses*
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Slaky on August 14, 2012, 09:40:25 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 14, 2012, 07:49:35 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 14, 2012, 07:37:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 10, 2012, 10:30:09 PM
I just finished The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller.

Good fucking god was that a grim story. Reminded me of Watchmen a little bit with the semi-apocalyptic event. I mean that in a good way and I'm guessing that's probably some kind of sin in comicland of which I know little about.

I picked up a ton of other ones I only vaguely know about but am really looking forward to getting through.

The Killing Joke is next.

Geek Trivia: Miller changed course halfway through DKR after having read Watchmen.

*snort*

Did he find an unfinished copy laying around the DC offices?  The final issue of DKR was published in mid-1986, Watchmen's initial publication run went from fall of 86 to fall of 87.

*adjusts glasses*

Looks like someone tried to make chumpmeat out of the maestro and failed.

So it's between Year One, Knightfall Vol. 1. and Arkham Asylum - which one should I read next?
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on August 14, 2012, 10:13:24 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 14, 2012, 09:40:25 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 14, 2012, 07:49:35 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 14, 2012, 07:37:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 10, 2012, 10:30:09 PM
I just finished The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller.

Good fucking god was that a grim story. Reminded me of Watchmen a little bit with the semi-apocalyptic event. I mean that in a good way and I'm guessing that's probably some kind of sin in comicland of which I know little about.

I picked up a ton of other ones I only vaguely know about but am really looking forward to getting through.

The Killing Joke is next.

Geek Trivia: Miller changed course halfway through DKR after having read Watchmen.

*snort*

Did he find an unfinished copy laying around the DC offices?  The final issue of DKR was published in mid-1986, Watchmen's initial publication run went from fall of 86 to fall of 87.

*adjusts glasses*

Looks like someone tried to make chumpmeat out of the maestro and failed.

So it's between Year One, Knightfall Vol. 1. and Arkham Asylum - which one should I read next?

I'd say Year One. Might as well do the origin story. Also, you may want to add The Man Who Falls to your reading list. I never actually cared that much for it, but then Nolan turned it into the basis for Batman Begins, so it's worth a look. Also, someone needs to watch Under the Red Hood and validate my opinion on it.

Also, people should just post in this thread every day. There just isn't enough Batman discussion right now to satisfy my appetite for it.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on August 14, 2012, 10:16:55 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 14, 2012, 10:13:24 PM
Also, someone needs to watch Under the Red Hood and validate my opinion on it.

High quality film.  Nods nicely to the original Red Hood story.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on August 15, 2012, 08:27:24 AM
Quote from: CT III on August 14, 2012, 07:49:35 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 14, 2012, 07:37:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 10, 2012, 10:30:09 PM
I just finished The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller.

Good fucking god was that a grim story. Reminded me of Watchmen a little bit with the semi-apocalyptic event. I mean that in a good way and I'm guessing that's probably some kind of sin in comicland of which I know little about.

I picked up a ton of other ones I only vaguely know about but am really looking forward to getting through.

The Killing Joke is next.

Geek Trivia: Miller changed course halfway through DKR after having read Watchmen.

*snort*

Did he find an unfinished copy laying around the DC offices?  The final issue of DKR was published in mid-1986, Watchmen's initial publication run went from fall of 86 to fall of 87.

*adjusts glasses*
I'd like to approve this.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Bort on August 15, 2012, 01:11:16 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 15, 2012, 08:27:24 AM
Quote from: CT III on August 14, 2012, 07:49:35 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 14, 2012, 07:37:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 10, 2012, 10:30:09 PM
I just finished The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller.

Good fucking god was that a grim story. Reminded me of Watchmen a little bit with the semi-apocalyptic event. I mean that in a good way and I'm guessing that's probably some kind of sin in comicland of which I know little about.

I picked up a ton of other ones I only vaguely know about but am really looking forward to getting through.

The Killing Joke is next.

Geek Trivia: Miller changed course halfway through DKR after having read Watchmen.

*snort*

Did he find an unfinished copy laying around the DC offices?  The final issue of DKR was published in mid-1986, Watchmen's initial publication run went from fall of 86 to fall of 87.

*adjusts glasses*
I'd like to approve this.

It wouldn't be a nerd thread without a snarky correction. I also approve.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on August 15, 2012, 03:00:29 PM
Since the is the default comic book thread, is there anyone out there who thinks there's a chance the Justice League film WON'T suck?

For one, Ben Affleck is supposedly directing it.

Also, they want to get the movie out so fast that they're apparently going to do The Avengers thing in reverse, with the big ensemble film preceeding the solo spinoffs. What the hell? Do they really think the average moviegoer has any idea who the fuck The Flash or Aquaman are anymore or why they should care? Also, they're apparently keeping Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern (didn't see the film, but it's currently at 27% on Rotten Tomatoes).

Another problem? Nolan's Batman universe is intended to be isolated, so they're going to have to reboot Batman to do it. I can only assume the Nolan-produced Man of Steel will be similarily incompatible with other superhero films, so they may need to have two completely new heavyweights to headline a cast of characters nobody else gives a shit about.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on August 15, 2012, 04:11:36 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 15, 2012, 03:00:29 PM
Since the is the default comic book thread...

Well, there's also this thread (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=8192.0). Which I guess you could be forgiven for forgetting about, as it's been nearly three weeks since you started it.

[ snorts ]

Quote from: SKO on August 15, 2012, 03:00:29 PMFor one, Ben Affleck is supposedly directing it.

To be fair to Affleck, both feature films he's directed in his career have been very well received.

Quote from: SKO on August 15, 2012, 03:00:29 PMAlso, they want to get the movie out so fast that they're apparently going to do The Avengers thing in reverse, with the big ensemble film preceeding the solo spinoffs. What the hell? Do they really think the average moviegoer has any idea who the fuck The Flash or Aquaman are anymore or why they should care?

Are you saying they need to introduce an unsuspecting public to The Flash and Aquaman via their own films first? That'd make for box office gold.

Quote from: SKO on August 15, 2012, 03:00:29 PMAnother problem? Nolan's Batman universe is intended to be isolated, so they're going to have to reboot Batman to do it.

Well, as The Dark Knight Rises has officially closed out Nolan's trilogy, and as Batman will still be seen as a license to print money for the foreseeable future, the question of a future Batman reboot is not "if" but "when". With "when" leaning towards sooner rather than later (Google autosuggesting 2015 or even 2014 (http://i.imgur.com/0zXPW.png)).

This is the acknowledged future of the franchise, to the point where I recall seeing the future reboot discussed in various articles in the run-up to the release of TDKR. Looking ever forward, I guess.

I gather that Nolan is expected to be involved in a producing role for these, too, a la Man of Steel.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on August 15, 2012, 04:17:26 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 15, 2012, 04:11:36 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 15, 2012, 03:00:29 PM
Since the is the default comic book thread...

Well, there's also this thread (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=8192.0). Which I guess you could be forgiven for forgetting about, as it's been nearly three weeks since you started it.

[ snorts ]

Quote from: SKO on August 15, 2012, 03:00:29 PMFor one, Ben Affleck is supposedly directing it.

To be fair to Affleck, both feature films he's directed in his career have been very well received.

Quote from: SKO on August 15, 2012, 03:00:29 PMAlso, they want to get the movie out so fast that they're apparently going to do The Avengers thing in reverse, with the big ensemble film preceeding the solo spinoffs. What the hell? Do they really think the average moviegoer has any idea who the fuck The Flash or Aquaman are anymore or why they should care?

Are you saying they need to introduce an unsuspecting public to The Flash and Aquaman via their own films first? That'd make for box office gold.

Quote from: SKO on August 15, 2012, 03:00:29 PMAnother problem? Nolan's Batman universe is intended to be isolated, so they're going to have to reboot Batman to do it.

Well, as The Dark Knight Rises has officially closed out Nolan's trilogy, and as Batman will still be seen as a license to print money for the foreseeable future, the question of a future Batman reboot is not "if" but "when". With "when" leaning towards sooner rather than later (Google autosuggesting 2015 or even 2014 (http://i.imgur.com/0zXPW.png)).

This is the acknowledged future of the franchise, to the point where I recall seeing the future reboot discussed in various articles in the run-up to the release of TDKR. Looking ever forward, I guess.

I gather that Nolan is expected to be involved in a producing role for these, too, a la Man of Steel.
I'm aware that I started a comic book movie thread. I've changed my mind and just decided to keep all discussion here, since this thread is alive. I'm also aware that the Batman reboot is coming, and that another one will follow that reboot because it's Batman. It's just going to be too soon for the public not to say "fuck NOTCHRISTIANBALE Batman" I just don't see how the Justice League can succeed with characters nobody knows or cares about. That's always been DC's problem beyond their two superstars, and even those two often seem like an ill-fit whenever they're awkwardly wedded together (outside of The Dark Knight Returns).
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: CT III on August 15, 2012, 09:03:45 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 15, 2012, 04:17:26 PM
I'm aware that I started a comic book movie thread. I've changed my mind and just decided to keep all discussion here, since this thread is alive. I'm also aware that the Batman reboot is coming, and that another one will follow that reboot because it's Batman. It's just going to be too soon for the public not to say "fuck NOTCHRISTIANBALE Batman" I just don't see how the Justice League can succeed with characters nobody knows or cares about. That's always been DC's problem beyond their two superstars, and even those two often seem like an ill-fit whenever they're awkwardly wedded together (outside of The Dark Knight Returns).

As long as I finally get to see David Ogden Stiers as Martian Manhunter, I'm happy.

Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Bort on August 15, 2012, 09:07:04 PM
To be honest, I think Frank Miller writes a shitty Superman, and that scene in Dark Knight Returns, while not even technically canon, has fucked up comics nerds expectations for Superman/Batman for 25 years now.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on August 15, 2012, 10:27:07 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 15, 2012, 09:03:45 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 15, 2012, 04:17:26 PM
I'm aware that I started a comic book movie thread. I've changed my mind and just decided to keep all discussion here, since this thread is alive. I'm also aware that the Batman reboot is coming, and that another one will follow that reboot because it's Batman. It's just going to be too soon for the public not to say "fuck NOTCHRISTIANBALE Batman" I just don't see how the Justice League can succeed with characters nobody knows or cares about. That's always been DC's problem beyond their two superstars, and even those two often seem like an ill-fit whenever they're awkwardly wedded together (outside of The Dark Knight Returns).

As long as I finally get to see David Ogden Stiers as Martian Manhunter, I'm happy.




Winchester <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Frank Burns

*waves everlasting fist at CT*

** I can only follow about 7% of this thread, but it fucking rules.  As you were.  /Hijack.**
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on August 15, 2012, 11:27:02 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 15, 2012, 09:07:04 PM
To be honest, I think Frank Miller writes a shitty Superman, and that scene in Dark Knight Returns, while not even technically canon, has fucked up comics nerds expectations for Superman/Batman for 25 years now.

I'm going to respectfully disagree. I enjoyed the way Miller twisted around the whole "truth, justice, and the American way" statement by making Superman a government stooge. That said, the fight was sketchy and I agree that it provided an unsatisfying answer to the ultimate (and utterly stupid) question of who would win in a fight. Anywho, FUCK YOU IT WAS AWESOME AND WHEN PART TWO OF THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS COMES OUT NEXT YEAR I'M GOING TO WATCH IT AND SLAKY AND I WILL TWEET "MAN, BORT FUCKIN' SUCKS" AT EACH OTHER AND HI FIVE BECAUSE BATMAN.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Bort on August 16, 2012, 07:35:01 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 15, 2012, 11:27:02 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 15, 2012, 09:07:04 PM
To be honest, I think Frank Miller writes a shitty Superman, and that scene in Dark Knight Returns, while not even technically canon, has fucked up comics nerds expectations for Superman/Batman for 25 years now.

I'm going to respectfully disagree. I enjoyed the way Miller twisted around the whole "truth, justice, and the American way" statement by making Superman a government stooge. That said, the fight was sketchy and I agree that it provided an unsatisfying answer to the ultimate (and utterly stupid) question of who would win in a fight. Anywho, FUCK YOU IT WAS AWESOME AND WHEN PART TWO OF THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS COMES OUT NEXT YEAR I'M GOING TO WATCH IT AND SLAKY AND I WILL TWEET "MAN, BORT FUCKIN' SUCKS" AT EACH OTHER AND HI FIVE BECAUSE BATMAN.

Anyone who still buys into the 50s TV show intro as the correct Superman characterization is doing a disservice to nearly 80 years of storytelling. I'll admit, Supes is a hard character to write well, and more often than not he isn't written well, but Miller's naked contempt for the character makes his Superman a straw man.

Of course, I've never thought DKR was the pinnacle of Batman storytelling. It's an interesting take, but I don't think it holds up as well as Year One.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 16, 2012, 07:50:46 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 15, 2012, 11:27:02 PM
That said, the fight was sketchy and I agree that it provided an unsatisfying answer to the ultimate (and utterly stupid) question of who would win in a fight.

Why is this even discussed? Everyone knows Supe gave the B-Man some Kryptonite to use in case he ever went rogue. There's no way BM doesn't whip that out.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on August 16, 2012, 08:24:17 AM
Quote from: Bort on August 16, 2012, 07:35:01 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 15, 2012, 11:27:02 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 15, 2012, 09:07:04 PM
To be honest, I think Frank Miller writes a shitty Superman, and that scene in Dark Knight Returns, while not even technically canon, has fucked up comics nerds expectations for Superman/Batman for 25 years now.

I'm going to respectfully disagree. I enjoyed the way Miller twisted around the whole "truth, justice, and the American way" statement by making Superman a government stooge. That said, the fight was sketchy and I agree that it provided an unsatisfying answer to the ultimate (and utterly stupid) question of who would win in a fight. Anywho, FUCK YOU IT WAS AWESOME AND WHEN PART TWO OF THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS COMES OUT NEXT YEAR I'M GOING TO WATCH IT AND SLAKY AND I WILL TWEET "MAN, BORT FUCKIN' SUCKS" AT EACH OTHER AND HI FIVE BECAUSE BATMAN.

Anyone who still buys into the 50s TV show intro as the correct Superman characterization is doing a disservice to nearly 80 years of storytelling. I'll admit, Supes is a hard character to write well, and more often than not he isn't written well, but Miller's naked contempt for the character makes his Superman a straw man.

Of course, I've never thought DKR was the pinnacle of Batman storytelling. It's an interesting take, but I don't think it holds up as well as Year One.

I'd argue that The Dark Knight Returns ignores a lot of the Batman stories told over the decades as well. He's certainly much darker and far more brutal than most versions of Bruce Wayne. I always felt like Miller was drawing the two of them at their extremes and pitting them against each other. Batman, a vigilante born to bring order from chaos, and Superman, a hero sent here to keep order from turning into chaos. Their goals are often the same but they have two different ways of looking at the world.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on August 16, 2012, 08:40:49 AM
Quote from: Bort on August 16, 2012, 07:35:01 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 15, 2012, 11:27:02 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 15, 2012, 09:07:04 PM
To be honest, I think Frank Miller writes a shitty Superman, and that scene in Dark Knight Returns, while not even technically canon, has fucked up comics nerds expectations for Superman/Batman for 25 years now.

I'm going to respectfully disagree. I enjoyed the way Miller twisted around the whole "truth, justice, and the American way" statement by making Superman a government stooge. That said, the fight was sketchy and I agree that it provided an unsatisfying answer to the ultimate (and utterly stupid) question of who would win in a fight. Anywho, FUCK YOU IT WAS AWESOME AND WHEN PART TWO OF THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS COMES OUT NEXT YEAR I'M GOING TO WATCH IT AND SLAKY AND I WILL TWEET "MAN, BORT FUCKIN' SUCKS" AT EACH OTHER AND HI FIVE BECAUSE BATMAN.

Anyone who still buys into the 50s TV show intro as the correct Superman characterization is doing a disservice to nearly 80 years of storytelling. I'll admit, Supes is a hard character to write well, and more often than not he isn't written well, but Miller's naked contempt for the character makes his Superman a straw man.

Of course, I've never thought DKR was the pinnacle of Batman storytelling. It's an interesting take, but I don't think it holds up as well as Year One.

Although I gather from your tear-soaked defense of him, your favorite version of Superman is the one depicted by John Ondrasik.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Bort on August 16, 2012, 08:51:59 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 16, 2012, 08:40:49 AM
Quote from: Bort on August 16, 2012, 07:35:01 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 15, 2012, 11:27:02 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 15, 2012, 09:07:04 PM
To be honest, I think Frank Miller writes a shitty Superman, and that scene in Dark Knight Returns, while not even technically canon, has fucked up comics nerds expectations for Superman/Batman for 25 years now.

I'm going to respectfully disagree. I enjoyed the way Miller twisted around the whole "truth, justice, and the American way" statement by making Superman a government stooge. That said, the fight was sketchy and I agree that it provided an unsatisfying answer to the ultimate (and utterly stupid) question of who would win in a fight. Anywho, FUCK YOU IT WAS AWESOME AND WHEN PART TWO OF THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS COMES OUT NEXT YEAR I'M GOING TO WATCH IT AND SLAKY AND I WILL TWEET "MAN, BORT FUCKIN' SUCKS" AT EACH OTHER AND HI FIVE BECAUSE BATMAN.

Anyone who still buys into the 50s TV show intro as the correct Superman characterization is doing a disservice to nearly 80 years of storytelling. I'll admit, Supes is a hard character to write well, and more often than not he isn't written well, but Miller's naked contempt for the character makes his Superman a straw man.

Of course, I've never thought DKR was the pinnacle of Batman storytelling. It's an interesting take, but I don't think it holds up as well as Year One.

Although I gather from your tear-soaked defense of him, your favorite version of Superman is the one depicted by John Ondrasik.

Actually, the depiction from All-Star Superman.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Tinker to Evers to Chance on August 16, 2012, 09:02:48 AM
Quote from: Bort on August 16, 2012, 08:51:59 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 16, 2012, 08:40:49 AM
Quote from: Bort on August 16, 2012, 07:35:01 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 15, 2012, 11:27:02 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 15, 2012, 09:07:04 PM
To be honest, I think Frank Miller writes a shitty Superman, and that scene in Dark Knight Returns, while not even technically canon, has fucked up comics nerds expectations for Superman/Batman for 25 years now.

I'm going to respectfully disagree. I enjoyed the way Miller twisted around the whole "truth, justice, and the American way" statement by making Superman a government stooge. That said, the fight was sketchy and I agree that it provided an unsatisfying answer to the ultimate (and utterly stupid) question of who would win in a fight. Anywho, FUCK YOU IT WAS AWESOME AND WHEN PART TWO OF THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS COMES OUT NEXT YEAR I'M GOING TO WATCH IT AND SLAKY AND I WILL TWEET "MAN, BORT FUCKIN' SUCKS" AT EACH OTHER AND HI FIVE BECAUSE BATMAN.

Anyone who still buys into the 50s TV show intro as the correct Superman characterization is doing a disservice to nearly 80 years of storytelling. I'll admit, Supes is a hard character to write well, and more often than not he isn't written well, but Miller's naked contempt for the character makes his Superman a straw man.

Of course, I've never thought DKR was the pinnacle of Batman storytelling. It's an interesting take, but I don't think it holds up as well as Year One.

Although I gather from your tear-soaked defense of him, your favorite version of Superman is the one depicted by John Ondrasik.

Actually, the depiction from All-Star Superman.

All-Star Superman is a must read for anyone that doesn't understand why he's awesome.

That being said, SKO's bu-u-u-u-urn made me chuckle.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on August 16, 2012, 09:32:37 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on August 16, 2012, 09:02:48 AM
Quote from: Bort on August 16, 2012, 08:51:59 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 16, 2012, 08:40:49 AM
Quote from: Bort on August 16, 2012, 07:35:01 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 15, 2012, 11:27:02 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 15, 2012, 09:07:04 PM
To be honest, I think Frank Miller writes a shitty Superman, and that scene in Dark Knight Returns, while not even technically canon, has fucked up comics nerds expectations for Superman/Batman for 25 years now.

I'm going to respectfully disagree. I enjoyed the way Miller twisted around the whole "truth, justice, and the American way" statement by making Superman a government stooge. That said, the fight was sketchy and I agree that it provided an unsatisfying answer to the ultimate (and utterly stupid) question of who would win in a fight. Anywho, FUCK YOU IT WAS AWESOME AND WHEN PART TWO OF THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS COMES OUT NEXT YEAR I'M GOING TO WATCH IT AND SLAKY AND I WILL TWEET "MAN, BORT FUCKIN' SUCKS" AT EACH OTHER AND HI FIVE BECAUSE BATMAN.

Anyone who still buys into the 50s TV show intro as the correct Superman characterization is doing a disservice to nearly 80 years of storytelling. I'll admit, Supes is a hard character to write well, and more often than not he isn't written well, but Miller's naked contempt for the character makes his Superman a straw man.

Of course, I've never thought DKR was the pinnacle of Batman storytelling. It's an interesting take, but I don't think it holds up as well as Year One.

Although I gather from your tear-soaked defense of him, your favorite version of Superman is the one depicted by John Ondrasik.

Actually, the depiction from All-Star Superman.

All-Star Superman is a must read for anyone that doesn't understand why he's awesome.

That being said, SKO's bu-u-u-u-urn made me chuckle.
I actually really enjoy All-Star Superman. Grant Morrison has done wonders for DC. I just really, really wanted to make that burn. Thank you for the validation, TEC.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on August 16, 2012, 10:05:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 16, 2012, 09:32:37 AM
I actually really enjoy All-Star Superman. Grant Morrison has done wonders for DC. I just really, really wanted to make that burn. Thank you for the validation, TEC.

Have you tried the film version of All-Star Superman? Wonder if it's any good.

I've also got a thing for Lois Lane's voice, so the movie might be better for me than the comic.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on August 16, 2012, 10:07:35 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 16, 2012, 10:05:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 16, 2012, 09:32:37 AM
I actually really enjoy All-Star Superman. Grant Morrison has done wonders for DC. I just really, really wanted to make that burn. Thank you for the validation, TEC.

Have you tried the film version of All-Star Superman? Wonder if it's any good.

I've also got a thing for Lois Lane's voice, so the movie might be better for me than the comic.

Haven't tried any of the Superman or the Justice League/Superman and Batman films. So far the only DCAU feature films I've seen are the Batman only Year One and Under the Red Hood. They were both very well done, so I'm willing to bet the Superman ones will be equally satisfying to Superman fans.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: CT III on August 16, 2012, 11:32:02 AM
It has been brought to my attention that TEC and SKO have never seen Cartoon Network's original run of the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited serieses.

If you've got any interest in the Justice League (and if you don't why are you reading this?) I can't recommend these enough.  The first two seasons focus on 7 members with last two seasons expanding the League to include all sorts of B-Listers.  In fact, if DC wants to just scrap the live action movies and pick the series back up, that'd be aces.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Slaky on August 16, 2012, 01:06:46 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 16, 2012, 11:32:02 AM
It has been brought to my attention that TEC and SKO have never seen Cartoon Network's original run of the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited serieses.

If you've got any interest in the Justice League (and if you don't why are you reading this?) I can't recommend these enough.  The first two seasons focus on 7 members with last two seasons expanding the League to include all sorts of B-Listers.  In fact, if DC wants to just scrap the live action movies and pick the series back up, that'd be aces.


Do you own this on DVD or is it streaming somewhere?
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: CT III on August 16, 2012, 01:29:29 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 16, 2012, 01:06:46 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 16, 2012, 11:32:02 AM
It has been brought to my attention that TEC and SKO have never seen Cartoon Network's original run of the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited serieses.

If you've got any interest in the Justice League (and if you don't why are you reading this?) I can't recommend these enough.  The first two seasons focus on 7 members with last two seasons expanding the League to include all sorts of B-Listers.  In fact, if DC wants to just scrap the live action movies and pick the series back up, that'd be aces.


Do you own this on DVD or is it streaming somewhere?

I have a couple of seasons on DVD but back during its initial run I watched most of it OnDemand from Comcast, I doubt it's available there anymore but I have to believe it's on the internet somewhere.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on August 17, 2012, 01:19:09 PM
I realize this is the Batman Books thread, but since Bort is the defender of The Last Son, can he, (or anyone else) recommend some Superman stories that might make me find the character compelling? I'll admit I've known Superman mostly through other mediums and his appearances in comics where he's not the central character, so I'm mostly ignorant of his own stories. I read most of the "Death of Superman" stuff back in the day when I could sneak them out of my brother's collection before he noticed and got pissed, and I've also read All-Star Superman because, well, Grant Morrison. Other than that, I'm a blank Superman slate.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: CT III on August 17, 2012, 02:22:41 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 17, 2012, 01:19:09 PM
I realize this is the Batman Books thread, but since Bort is the defender of The Last Son, can he, (or anyone else) recommend some Superman stories that might make me find the character compelling? I'll admit I've known Superman mostly through other mediums and his appearances in comics where he's not the central character, so I'm mostly ignorant of his own stories. I read most of the "Death of Superman" stuff back in the day when I could sneak them out of my brother's collection before he noticed and got pissed, and I've also read All-Star Superman because, well, Grant Morrison. Other than that, I'm a blank Superman slate.

Alan Moore's For the Man Who Has Everthing and Whatever Happened To the Man of Tomorrow are both very good.  I believe DC published a single volume "best of Alan Moore" that includes both stories, The Killing Joke and some other stuff.

This would be it: http://www.amazon.com/DC-Universe-Stories-Alan-Moore/dp/1401209270
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Bort on August 17, 2012, 02:50:04 PM
Actually, I haven't read altogether that much Superman either. I just think Miller is hamfisted with him.

Some good ones:

Red Son, where Supes' rocket lands in the Soviet Union instead of Kansas.
Kryptonite, Darwyn Cooke and Tim Sale on a young Superman learning he isn't invulnerable after all.
Morrison's run on JLA has some great Supes moments
I've heard good things about Morrison's recent Action run.
Superman is taken out during a lot of Darwyn Cooke's New Frontier, but when he's in, he's done well, with a more nuanced take on his relationship with Batman. I would suggest this book to anyone who likes superheroes

Garth Ennis hates superheroes, but he manages to both nail Superman's strengths and weaknesses in Hitman #34. Hitman is worth reading in its entirety, but this standalone issue won an Eisner with good cause.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Bort on August 17, 2012, 02:53:53 PM
Speaking of maligned characters, I'm reading Robin: Year One. It's pretty good. The art is pretty choice.

EDIT: DPD
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on August 17, 2012, 03:27:37 PM
OK, inspired. Just picked up All-Star Supes 1 & 2, Long Halloween, and Boss (DVD).

Ain't public libraries awesome?
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Canadouche on August 17, 2012, 06:41:31 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 17, 2012, 01:19:09 PM
I realize this is the Batman Books thread, but since Bort is the defender of The Last Son, can he, (or anyone else) recommend some Superman stories that might make me find the character compelling? I'll admit I've known Superman mostly through other mediums and his appearances in comics where he's not the central character, so I'm mostly ignorant of his own stories. I read most of the "Death of Superman" stuff back in the day when I could sneak them out of my brother's collection before he noticed and got pissed, and I've also read All-Star Superman because, well, Grant Morrison. Other than that, I'm a blank Superman slate.

Superman: For All Seasons. A really great mini-series that I enjoyed tremendously. Might be my favorite Superman story ever.

The John Byrne issues in which Superman fights General Zod is a pretty good read, too.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on August 18, 2012, 01:21:20 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 16, 2012, 11:32:02 AM
It has been brought to my attention that TEC and SKO have never seen Cartoon Network's original run of the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited serieses.

If you've got any interest in the Justice League (and if you don't why are you reading this?) I can't recommend these enough.  The first two seasons focus on 7 members with last two seasons expanding the League to include all sorts of B-Listers.  In fact, if DC wants to just scrap the live action movies and pick the series back up, that'd be aces.


I watched Justice League: Doom yesterday. It's one of the PG-13 DC Animated Universe films (like Year One and Red Hood) but it includes nearly all of the writing team and the voice actors from Batman: TAS, Superman TAS, and this Justice League cartoon. The plot revolves around someone hacking into the Batcomputer and using Batman's own contingency plans for taking down the members of the JLA if they ever went rogue. Pretty good film.

You can find the whole thing in good quality in two parts here: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xorhxx_justice-league-doom-part-1_shortfilms and http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xorji6_justice-league-doom-part-2_shortfilms
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on August 18, 2012, 04:38:32 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 18, 2012, 01:21:20 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 16, 2012, 11:32:02 AM
It has been brought to my attention that TEC and SKO have never seen Cartoon Network's original run of the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited serieses.

If you've got any interest in the Justice League (and if you don't why are you reading this?) I can't recommend these enough.  The first two seasons focus on 7 members with last two seasons expanding the League to include all sorts of B-Listers.  In fact, if DC wants to just scrap the live action movies and pick the series back up, that'd be aces.


I watched Justice League: Doom yesterday. It's one of the PG-13 DC Animated Universe films (like Year One and Red Hood) but it includes nearly all of the writing team and the voice actors from Batman: TAS, Superman TAS, and this Justice League cartoon. The plot revolves around someone hacking into the Batcomputer and using Batman's own contingency plans for taking down the members of the JLA if they ever went rogue. Pretty good film.

You can find the whole thing in good quality in two parts here: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xorhxx_justice-league-doom-part-1_shortfilms and http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xorji6_justice-league-doom-part-2_shortfilms

Intrepid Reader: TDubbs

Cartoons are the coolest.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on August 27, 2012, 02:21:23 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 18, 2012, 04:38:32 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 18, 2012, 01:21:20 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 16, 2012, 11:32:02 AM
It has been brought to my attention that TEC and SKO have never seen Cartoon Network's original run of the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited serieses.

If you've got any interest in the Justice League (and if you don't why are you reading this?) I can't recommend these enough.  The first two seasons focus on 7 members with last two seasons expanding the League to include all sorts of B-Listers.  In fact, if DC wants to just scrap the live action movies and pick the series back up, that'd be aces.


I watched Justice League: Doom yesterday. It's one of the PG-13 DC Animated Universe films (like Year One and Red Hood) but it includes nearly all of the writing team and the voice actors from Batman: TAS, Superman TAS, and this Justice League cartoon. The plot revolves around someone hacking into the Batcomputer and using Batman's own contingency plans for taking down the members of the JLA if they ever went rogue. Pretty good film.

You can find the whole thing in good quality in two parts here: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xorhxx_justice-league-doom-part-1_shortfilms and http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xorji6_justice-league-doom-part-2_shortfilms

Intrepid Reader: TDubbs

Cartoons are the coolest.
Can we hate on Thrill for killing this thread? Anybody ready/seen anything good lately? I watched Green Lantern because I was drunk and bored and it cost me a dollar and my friend was all "it can't be That bad, can it?" It was.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on August 27, 2012, 04:38:21 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 27, 2012, 02:21:23 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 18, 2012, 04:38:32 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 18, 2012, 01:21:20 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 16, 2012, 11:32:02 AM
It has been brought to my attention that TEC and SKO have never seen Cartoon Network's original run of the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited serieses.

If you've got any interest in the Justice League (and if you don't why are you reading this?) I can't recommend these enough.  The first two seasons focus on 7 members with last two seasons expanding the League to include all sorts of B-Listers.  In fact, if DC wants to just scrap the live action movies and pick the series back up, that'd be aces.


I watched Justice League: Doom yesterday. It's one of the PG-13 DC Animated Universe films (like Year One and Red Hood) but it includes nearly all of the writing team and the voice actors from Batman: TAS, Superman TAS, and this Justice League cartoon. The plot revolves around someone hacking into the Batcomputer and using Batman's own contingency plans for taking down the members of the JLA if they ever went rogue. Pretty good film.

You can find the whole thing in good quality in two parts here: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xorhxx_justice-league-doom-part-1_shortfilms and http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xorji6_justice-league-doom-part-2_shortfilms

Intrepid Reader: TDubbs

Cartoons are the coolest.

Can we hate on Thrill for killing this thread?

Intrepid Reader: TDubbs

Maybe you could ask Captain Archer and Professor Cartoon to cartoon me to death.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Bort on August 27, 2012, 10:17:25 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 27, 2012, 04:38:21 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 27, 2012, 02:21:23 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 18, 2012, 04:38:32 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 18, 2012, 01:21:20 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 16, 2012, 11:32:02 AM
It has been brought to my attention that TEC and SKO have never seen Cartoon Network's original run of the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited serieses.

If you've got any interest in the Justice League (and if you don't why are you reading this?) I can't recommend these enough.  The first two seasons focus on 7 members with last two seasons expanding the League to include all sorts of B-Listers.  In fact, if DC wants to just scrap the live action movies and pick the series back up, that'd be aces.


I watched Justice League: Doom yesterday. It's one of the PG-13 DC Animated Universe films (like Year One and Red Hood) but it includes nearly all of the writing team and the voice actors from Batman: TAS, Superman TAS, and this Justice League cartoon. The plot revolves around someone hacking into the Batcomputer and using Batman's own contingency plans for taking down the members of the JLA if they ever went rogue. Pretty good film.

You can find the whole thing in good quality in two parts here: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xorhxx_justice-league-doom-part-1_shortfilms and http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xorji6_justice-league-doom-part-2_shortfilms

Intrepid Reader: TDubbs

Cartoons are the coolest.

Can we hate on Thrill for killing this thread?

Intrepid Reader: TDubbs

Maybe you could ask Captain Archer and Professor Cartoon to cartoon me to death.

Intrepid Reader: TDubbs

Who let the faggot nerd into the cartoon nerd thread?
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: CT III on August 27, 2012, 10:44:15 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 17, 2012, 02:50:04 PM
Garth Ennis hates superheroes, but he manages to both nail Superman's strengths and weaknesses in Hitman #34. Hitman is worth reading in its entirety, but this standalone issue won an Eisner with good cause.

SKO - my suggestion if you like DC characters is to branch out.  There are some excellent Batman and Superman stories suggested here, but a lot of the best stuff in DC was produced when a creator was given one of the more obscure or lesser titles and given free reign on it.

Stuff I'd recommend:

Hitman - an excellent title authored by Garth Ennis, I believe the full series was re-released a few years ago in several volumes.

Suicide Squad - terrific series about supervillains who take on covert missions for the US Government in exchange for reduced prison sentences.  John Ostrander's run in the late 80's/early 90's was outstanding but later iterations remain solid.

Grant Morrison's stints on Doom Patrol and Animal Man defy description, but should definitely be read.

I'm also partial to Justice League International, which came about when JM DeMatteis and Keith Giffen were given the Justice League to write but for various reasons were not allowed to utilize Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash or Aquaman.  I think the resulting series was a lot more fun than the standard "WE ARE GODS LOOKING DOWN ON EARTH" stuff that the JLA books tend to traffic in.

Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Bort on August 27, 2012, 10:55:28 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 27, 2012, 10:44:15 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 17, 2012, 02:50:04 PM
Garth Ennis hates superheroes, but he manages to both nail Superman's strengths and weaknesses in Hitman #34. Hitman is worth reading in its entirety, but this standalone issue won an Eisner with good cause.

SKO - my suggestion if you like DC characters is to branch out.  There are some excellent Batman and Superman stories suggested here, but a lot of the best stuff in DC was produced when a creator was given one of the more obscure or lesser titles and given free reign on it.

Stuff I'd recommend:

Hitman - an excellent title authored by Garth Ennis, I believe the full series was re-released a few years ago in several volumes.

Suicide Squad - terrific series about supervillains who take on covert missions for the US Government in exchange for reduced prison sentences.  John Ostrander's run in the late 80's/early 90's was outstanding but later iterations remain solid.

Grant Morrison's stints on Doom Patrol and Animal Man defy description, but should definitely be read.

I'm also partial to Justice League International, which came about when JM DeMatteis and Keith Giffen were given the Justice League to write but for various reasons were not allowed to utilize Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash or Aquaman.  I think the resulting series was a lot more fun than the standard "WE ARE GODS LOOKING DOWN ON EARTH" stuff that the JLA books tend to traffic in.



CT gives good advice.

One rather recent series that I would also recommend is Secret Six. It's got a bit of that Claremont soap-opera feel, in a good way. It's a team of mostly also-ran villains who basically end up working together out of necessity, with all the bickering, alliances, and betrayals you might expect.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Slaky on August 28, 2012, 09:07:39 AM
I cracked open Arkham Asylum and the art bothers the shit out of me. I can't get into it at all. Did anyone have that problem?
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on August 28, 2012, 10:37:09 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 28, 2012, 09:07:39 AM
I cracked open Arkham Asylum and the art bothers the shit out of me. I can't get into it at all. Did anyone have that problem?

Intrepid Reader: Goth Bort

God help you if you ever speak ill of my beloved Sandman...
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on August 28, 2012, 10:47:30 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 28, 2012, 09:07:39 AM
I cracked open Arkham Asylum and the art bothers the shit out of me. I can't get into it at all. Did anyone have that problem?

More seriously, here' the artist himself on that...

http://www.comicscareer.com/?page_id=55

QuoteComics Career: When you say you're not happy with what you've done, is that in terms of material, doing superhero work, or a feeling that your own artwork wasn't up to par?

McKean: Pretty much everything. I was never happy doing superhero stuff because I've never liked them. And the more I did it, the more I realized that I couldn't do it even as a job. I couldn't get out of bed in the morning – couldn't work up the enthusiasm to do it – because I didn't believe in it. If somebody's doing superhero comics, and they really love it, and it's what they always want to do, fine, more power to them, but not for me.

Comics Career: Was Arkham Asylum something of a breaking point?

McKean: It was kind of a breaking point in as much as at the beginning of it I thought if could push it as far as I could in the direction that I wanted to go – this sort of very abstracted work and dense atmosphere. I tried not to accept any of the ground rules at face value.

When Grant first came up with the story he didn't know who was going to be drawing it, so it was a very traditional Batman story. But, it had Robin in it, and I didn't like that at all. At one point he was Bruce Wayne, and I didn't want that either because I don't believe in the character as a human being. I like the idea of him being sort of a cross between man and an animal, and I think as a mythic story that's kind of interesting.

We chopped it and changed it around. It became sort of a symbolic play. We piled all this stuff on top of it, and dressed it up in its best clothes, and sent it out. Then I sat down afterwards and realized, "Why? Why bother? It's such an absurd thing to do." It's like suddenly realizing the fact that you're desperately trying to work around the subject matter – trying to make the book despite the subject, rather than because of it. At the end of the day, if you really love to do Batman comics, then that's probably the best thing to do. Not liking them, and then trying to make something out of them is just a waste of time.

Also, by the end of it I'd really begun to think that this whole thing about four-color comics with very, very overpainted, lavish illustrations in every panel just didn't work. It hampers the storytelling. It does everything wrong. It's very difficult to have any enthusiasm about it after that.

Comics Career: So you really came to the point that it seemed like the art was working against the story?

McKean: Yeah, definitely. Especially in this case. There was so little content there. I mean, it does nobody any good at all to realize that Batman is a psychopath. Who cares?

Comics Career: There isn't much world-shaking significance in the fact.

McKean: Exactly.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Slaky on August 28, 2012, 11:42:29 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 28, 2012, 10:47:30 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 28, 2012, 09:07:39 AM
I cracked open Arkham Asylum and the art bothers the shit out of me. I can't get into it at all. Did anyone have that problem?

More seriously, here' the artist himself on that...

http://www.comicscareer.com/?page_id=55

QuoteComics Career: When you say you're not happy with what you've done, is that in terms of material, doing superhero work, or a feeling that your own artwork wasn't up to par?

McKean: Pretty much everything. I was never happy doing superhero stuff because I've never liked them. And the more I did it, the more I realized that I couldn't do it even as a job. I couldn't get out of bed in the morning – couldn't work up the enthusiasm to do it – because I didn't believe in it. If somebody's doing superhero comics, and they really love it, and it's what they always want to do, fine, more power to them, but not for me.

Comics Career: Was Arkham Asylum something of a breaking point?

McKean: It was kind of a breaking point in as much as at the beginning of it I thought if could push it as far as I could in the direction that I wanted to go – this sort of very abstracted work and dense atmosphere. I tried not to accept any of the ground rules at face value.

When Grant first came up with the story he didn't know who was going to be drawing it, so it was a very traditional Batman story. But, it had Robin in it, and I didn't like that at all. At one point he was Bruce Wayne, and I didn't want that either because I don't believe in the character as a human being. I like the idea of him being sort of a cross between man and an animal, and I think as a mythic story that's kind of interesting.

We chopped it and changed it around. It became sort of a symbolic play. We piled all this stuff on top of it, and dressed it up in its best clothes, and sent it out. Then I sat down afterwards and realized, "Why? Why bother? It's such an absurd thing to do." It's like suddenly realizing the fact that you're desperately trying to work around the subject matter – trying to make the book despite the subject, rather than because of it. At the end of the day, if you really love to do Batman comics, then that's probably the best thing to do. Not liking them, and then trying to make something out of them is just a waste of time.

Also, by the end of it I'd really begun to think that this whole thing about four-color comics with very, very overpainted, lavish illustrations in every panel just didn't work. It hampers the storytelling. It does everything wrong. It's very difficult to have any enthusiasm about it after that.

Comics Career: So you really came to the point that it seemed like the art was working against the story?

McKean: Yeah, definitely. Especially in this case. There was so little content there. I mean, it does nobody any good at all to realize that Batman is a psychopath. Who cares?

Comics Career: There isn't much world-shaking significance in the fact.

McKean: Exactly.

Well I guess I won't be finishing that, then.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Bort on August 28, 2012, 11:43:30 AM
I vaguely remember McKean at the time was the hotshot artist, and Grant Morrison was some unknown guy who did Doom Patrol. The art does detract. McKean works better as a cover artist.

But the words are worth it.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on August 28, 2012, 12:53:55 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 28, 2012, 11:43:30 AM
I vaguely remember McKean at the time was the hotshot artist, and Grant Morrison was some unknown guy who did Doom Patrol. The art does detract. McKean works better as a cover artist.

But the words are worth it.

Is an audiobook version available?
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Bort on August 28, 2012, 04:35:22 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 28, 2012, 12:53:55 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 28, 2012, 11:43:30 AM
I vaguely remember McKean at the time was the hotshot artist, and Grant Morrison was some unknown guy who did Doom Patrol. The art does detract. McKean works better as a cover artist.

But the words are worth it.

Is an audiobook version available?

I can make you an abridged one, as long as you don't mind a tape of me yelling "Fuck you, Tank" over and over in a loop.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on August 28, 2012, 06:00:07 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 28, 2012, 04:35:22 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 28, 2012, 12:53:55 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 28, 2012, 11:43:30 AM
I vaguely remember McKean at the time was the hotshot artist, and Grant Morrison was some unknown guy who did Doom Patrol. The art does detract. McKean works better as a cover artist.

But the words are worth it.

Is an audiobook version available?

I can make you an abridged one, as long as you don't mind a tape of me yelling "Fuck you, Tank" over and over in a loop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSGWKsJCjzY
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: CT III on August 28, 2012, 07:43:52 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 27, 2012, 10:55:28 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 27, 2012, 10:44:15 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 17, 2012, 02:50:04 PM
Garth Ennis hates superheroes, but he manages to both nail Superman's strengths and weaknesses in Hitman #34. Hitman is worth reading in its entirety, but this standalone issue won an Eisner with good cause.

SKO - my suggestion if you like DC characters is to branch out.  There are some excellent Batman and Superman stories suggested here, but a lot of the best stuff in DC was produced when a creator was given one of the more obscure or lesser titles and given free reign on it.

Stuff I'd recommend:

Hitman - an excellent title authored by Garth Ennis, I believe the full series was re-released a few years ago in several volumes.

Suicide Squad - terrific series about supervillains who take on covert missions for the US Government in exchange for reduced prison sentences.  John Ostrander's run in the late 80's/early 90's was outstanding but later iterations remain solid.

Grant Morrison's stints on Doom Patrol and Animal Man defy description, but should definitely be read.

I'm also partial to Justice League International, which came about when JM DeMatteis and Keith Giffen were given the Justice League to write but for various reasons were not allowed to utilize Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash or Aquaman.  I think the resulting series was a lot more fun than the standard "WE ARE GODS LOOKING DOWN ON EARTH" stuff that the JLA books tend to traffic in.



CT gives good advice.

One rather recent series that I would also recommend is Secret Six. It's got a bit of that Claremont soap-opera feel, in a good way. It's a team of mostly also-ran villains who basically end up working together out of necessity, with all the bickering, alliances, and betrayals you might expect.

Forgot about the Secret Six, also highly recommended.  Believe this crosses over with Suicide Squad at some point as well, since Deadshot is a prominent member of both teams.

For those who don't know, Deadshot is awesome.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Bort on August 28, 2012, 11:50:35 PM
Deadshot is great. Always.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Canadouche on September 01, 2012, 08:51:48 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 28, 2012, 10:37:09 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 28, 2012, 09:07:39 AM
I cracked open Arkham Asylum and the art bothers the shit out of me. I can't get into it at all. Did anyone have that problem?

Intrepid Reader: Goth Bort

God help you if you ever speak ill of my beloved Sandman...

I've been rereading these lately. They are outstanding.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Bort on September 01, 2012, 09:58:53 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on September 01, 2012, 08:51:48 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 28, 2012, 10:37:09 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 28, 2012, 09:07:39 AM
I cracked open Arkham Asylum and the art bothers the shit out of me. I can't get into it at all. Did anyone have that problem?

Intrepid Reader: Goth Bort

God help you if you ever speak ill of my beloved Sandman...

I've been rereading these lately. They are outstanding.

Night of a Thousand Cats is outstanding.

[/gothbort]
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Canadouche on September 05, 2012, 09:28:44 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 01, 2012, 09:58:53 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on September 01, 2012, 08:51:48 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 28, 2012, 10:37:09 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 28, 2012, 09:07:39 AM
I cracked open Arkham Asylum and the art bothers the shit out of me. I can't get into it at all. Did anyone have that problem?

Intrepid Reader: Goth Bort

God help you if you ever speak ill of my beloved Sandman...

I've been rereading these lately. They are outstanding.

Night of a Thousand Cats is outstanding.

[/gothbort]

Just finished the series. Lord help me, but now I'm tempted to read The Dreaming, even though it can't possibly be nearly as good.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: CT III on October 20, 2012, 10:46:35 AM
Bump.

Well, Warner Brothers won their latest round of copyright fun with Joe Shuster's estate, so SKO's beloved Justice League movie will be able to go ahead as planned.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/warner-bros-wins-big-court-379770

Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on July 24, 2013, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: CT III on October 20, 2012, 10:46:35 AM
Bump.

Well, Warner Brothers won their latest round of copyright fun with Joe Shuster's estate, so SKO's beloved Justice League movie will be able to go ahead as planned.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/warner-bros-wins-big-court-379770




They announced at Comic Con that Man of Steel 2 will be Batman vs. Superman in the summer of 2015. I still haven't seen Man of Steel, but I haven't heard much to give me hope this won't suck.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: R-V on August 23, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 24, 2013, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: CT III on October 20, 2012, 10:46:35 AM
Bump.

Well, Warner Brothers won their latest round of copyright fun with Joe Shuster's estate, so SKO's beloved Justice League movie will be able to go ahead as planned.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/warner-bros-wins-big-court-379770




They announced at Comic Con that Man of Steel 2 will be Batman vs. Superman in the summer of 2015. I still haven't seen Man of Steel, but I haven't heard much to give me hope this won't suck.

Bump so Fork can make an excruciatingly painful quip about Matt Damon playing Robin.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on August 23, 2013, 09:15:50 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 23, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 24, 2013, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: CT III on October 20, 2012, 10:46:35 AM
Bump.

Well, Warner Brothers won their latest round of copyright fun with Joe Shuster's estate, so SKO's beloved Justice League movie will be able to go ahead as planned.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/warner-bros-wins-big-court-379770




They announced at Comic Con that Man of Steel 2 will be Batman vs. Superman in the summer of 2015. I still haven't seen Man of Steel, but I haven't heard much to give me hope this won't suck.

Bump so Fork can make an excruciatingly painful quip about Matt Damon playing Robin.

Also for SKO's aching red butt.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 23, 2013, 10:04:53 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 23, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 24, 2013, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: CT III on October 20, 2012, 10:46:35 AM
Bump.

Well, Warner Brothers won their latest round of copyright fun with Joe Shuster's estate, so SKO's beloved Justice League movie will be able to go ahead as planned.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/warner-bros-wins-big-court-379770




They announced at Comic Con that Man of Steel 2 will be Batman vs. Superman in the summer of 2015. I still haven't seen Man of Steel, but I haven't heard much to give me hope this won't suck.

Bump so Fork can make an excruciatingly painful quip about Matt Damon playing Robin.

If they can work in Jennifer Garner in any tight-fitting costume, it's all good - just cover her Dumbo ears.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on August 23, 2013, 10:08:27 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 23, 2013, 10:04:53 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 23, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 24, 2013, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: CT III on October 20, 2012, 10:46:35 AM
Bump.

Well, Warner Brothers won their latest round of copyright fun with Joe Shuster's estate, so SKO's beloved Justice League movie will be able to go ahead as planned.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/warner-bros-wins-big-court-379770




They announced at Comic Con that Man of Steel 2 will be Batman vs. Superman in the summer of 2015. I still haven't seen Man of Steel, but I haven't heard much to give me hope this won't suck.

Bump so Fork can make an excruciatingly painful quip about Matt Damon playing Robin.

If they can work in Jennifer Garner in any tight-fitting costume, it's all good - just cover her Dumbo ears.

Abed Fork is Batman Chuck now.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on August 23, 2013, 10:32:21 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 23, 2013, 10:08:27 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 23, 2013, 10:04:53 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 23, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 24, 2013, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: CT III on October 20, 2012, 10:46:35 AM
Bump.

Well, Warner Brothers won their latest round of copyright fun with Joe Shuster's estate, so SKO's beloved Justice League movie will be able to go ahead as planned.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/warner-bros-wins-big-court-379770




They announced at Comic Con that Man of Steel 2 will be Batman vs. Superman in the summer of 2015. I still haven't seen Man of Steel, but I haven't heard much to give me hope this won't suck.

Bump so Fork can make an excruciatingly painful quip about Matt Damon playing Robin.

If they can work in Jennifer Garner in any tight-fitting costume, it's all good - just cover her Dumbo ears.

Abed Fork is Batman Chuck now.

Affleck will probably be fine. The movie will be as mindlessly entertaining and dumb as Man of Steel was, I'm sure. But...yeah..my initial reaction was not positive.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on August 23, 2013, 12:18:49 PM
Quote from: Fork on August 23, 2013, 10:04:53 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 23, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 24, 2013, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: CT III on October 20, 2012, 10:46:35 AM
Bump.

Well, Warner Brothers won their latest round of copyright fun with Joe Shuster's estate, so SKO's beloved Justice League movie will be able to go ahead as planned.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/warner-bros-wins-big-court-379770




They announced at Comic Con that Man of Steel 2 will be Batman vs. Superman in the summer of 2015. I still haven't seen Man of Steel, but I haven't heard much to give me hope this won't suck.

Bump so Fork can make an excruciatingly painful quip about Matt Damon playing Robin.

If they can work in Jennifer Garner in any tight-fitting costume, it's all good - just cover her Dumbo ears.

You want a Daredevil remake?
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Saul Goodman on August 23, 2013, 02:05:30 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 23, 2013, 12:18:49 PM
Quote from: Fork on August 23, 2013, 10:04:53 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 23, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 24, 2013, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: CT III on October 20, 2012, 10:46:35 AM
Bump.

Well, Warner Brothers won their latest round of copyright fun with Joe Shuster's estate, so SKO's beloved Justice League movie will be able to go ahead as planned.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/warner-bros-wins-big-court-379770




They announced at Comic Con that Man of Steel 2 will be Batman vs. Superman in the summer of 2015. I still haven't seen Man of Steel, but I haven't heard much to give me hope this won't suck.

Bump so Fork can make an excruciatingly painful quip about Matt Damon playing Robin.

If they can work in Jennifer Garner in any tight-fitting costume, it's all good - just cover her Dumbo ears.

You want a Daredevil remake? SOMETHING SOMETHING MY PENIS DOESN'T LIKE CHRISTINA HENDRICKS
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Slaky on August 23, 2013, 03:14:14 PM
As long as they keep making the Arkham games I don't even care.

Also Ben Affleck is pretty good.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on August 23, 2013, 04:55:44 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 23, 2013, 03:14:14 PM
As long as they keep making the Arkham games I don't even care.

Also Ben Affleck is pretty good.

Yeah, the butthurt faded quickly. The Dark Knight Trilogy was everything I ever wanted, so I could care less if any future films stink. I enjoyed Man of Steel on a superficial level, but the plot was thin everywhere and a lot of it just seemed stupid, so I just don't expect this film to be good even if Affleck is good.

Still hoping for that Batman Beyond movie, though.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Tonker on August 24, 2013, 08:47:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 23, 2013, 10:32:21 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 23, 2013, 10:08:27 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 23, 2013, 10:04:53 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 23, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 24, 2013, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: CT III on October 20, 2012, 10:46:35 AM
Bump.

Well, Warner Brothers won their latest round of copyright fun with Joe Shuster's estate, so SKO's beloved Justice League movie will be able to go ahead as planned.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/warner-bros-wins-big-court-379770




They announced at Comic Con that Man of Steel 2 will be Batman vs. Superman in the summer of 2015. I still haven't seen Man of Steel, but I haven't heard much to give me hope this won't suck.

Bump so Fork can make an excruciatingly painful quip about Matt Damon playing Robin.

If they can work in Jennifer Garner in any tight-fitting costume, it's all good - just cover her Dumbo ears.

Abed Fork is Batman Chuck now.

Affleck will probably be fine. The movie will be as mindlessly entertaining and dumb as Man of Steel was, I'm sure. But...yeah..my initial reaction was not positive.

I'vehadmoreentertainingcolonoscopies'd.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on August 24, 2013, 12:02:40 PM
Quote from: Tonker on August 24, 2013, 08:47:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 23, 2013, 10:32:21 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 23, 2013, 10:08:27 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 23, 2013, 10:04:53 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 23, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 24, 2013, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: CT III on October 20, 2012, 10:46:35 AM
Bump.

Well, Warner Brothers won their latest round of copyright fun with Joe Shuster's estate, so SKO's beloved Justice League movie will be able to go ahead as planned.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/warner-bros-wins-big-court-379770




They announced at Comic Con that Man of Steel 2 will be Batman vs. Superman in the summer of 2015. I still haven't seen Man of Steel, but I haven't heard much to give me hope this won't suck.

Bump so Fork can make an excruciatingly painful quip about Matt Damon playing Robin.

If they can work in Jennifer Garner in any tight-fitting costume, it's all good - just cover her Dumbo ears.

Abed Fork is Batman Chuck now.

Affleck will probably be fine. The movie will be as mindlessly entertaining and dumb as Man of Steel was, I'm sure. But...yeah..my initial reaction was not positive.

I'vehadmoreentertainingcolonoscopies'd.

They show Superman movies to foreigners? It's not called Truth, Justice, and the Belgian Way, for fuck's sake.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Bort on August 24, 2013, 01:22:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 24, 2013, 12:02:40 PM
Quote from: Tonker on August 24, 2013, 08:47:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 23, 2013, 10:32:21 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 23, 2013, 10:08:27 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 23, 2013, 10:04:53 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 23, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 24, 2013, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: CT III on October 20, 2012, 10:46:35 AM
Bump.

Well, Warner Brothers won their latest round of copyright fun with Joe Shuster's estate, so SKO's beloved Justice League movie will be able to go ahead as planned.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/warner-bros-wins-big-court-379770




They announced at Comic Con that Man of Steel 2 will be Batman vs. Superman in the summer of 2015. I still haven't seen Man of Steel, but I haven't heard much to give me hope this won't suck.

Bump so Fork can make an excruciatingly painful quip about Matt Damon playing Robin.

If they can work in Jennifer Garner in any tight-fitting costume, it's all good - just cover her Dumbo ears.

Abed Fork is Batman Chuck now.

Affleck will probably be fine. The movie will be as mindlessly entertaining and dumb as Man of Steel was, I'm sure. But...yeah..my initial reaction was not positive.

I'vehadmoreentertainingcolonoscopies'd.

They show Superman movies to foreigners? It's not called Truth, Justice, and the Belgian Way, for fuck's sake.

You're forgetting Mark Millar's classic A Walloon For All Seasons, where Superman is raised by a Flemish chocolatier.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: CT III on August 24, 2013, 01:27:36 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 24, 2013, 01:22:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 24, 2013, 12:02:40 PM
Quote from: Tonker on August 24, 2013, 08:47:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 23, 2013, 10:32:21 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 23, 2013, 10:08:27 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 23, 2013, 10:04:53 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 23, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 24, 2013, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: CT III on October 20, 2012, 10:46:35 AM
Bump.

Well, Warner Brothers won their latest round of copyright fun with Joe Shuster's estate, so SKO's beloved Justice League movie will be able to go ahead as planned.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/warner-bros-wins-big-court-379770




They announced at Comic Con that Man of Steel 2 will be Batman vs. Superman in the summer of 2015. I still haven't seen Man of Steel, but I haven't heard much to give me hope this won't suck.

Bump so Fork can make an excruciatingly painful quip about Matt Damon playing Robin.

If they can work in Jennifer Garner in any tight-fitting costume, it's all good - just cover her Dumbo ears.

Abed Fork is Batman Chuck now.

Affleck will probably be fine. The movie will be as mindlessly entertaining and dumb as Man of Steel was, I'm sure. But...yeah..my initial reaction was not positive.

I'vehadmoreentertainingcolonoscopies'd.

They show Superman movies to foreigners? It's not called Truth, Justice, and the Belgian Way, for fuck's sake.

You're forgetting Mark Millar's classic A Walloon For All Seasons, where Superman is raised by a Flemish chocolatier.

How could anyone forget that?  Probably the best rape scenes Millar's ever written.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Tonker on August 25, 2013, 02:46:34 AM
Quote from: Bort on August 24, 2013, 01:22:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 24, 2013, 12:02:40 PM
Quote from: Tonker on August 24, 2013, 08:47:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 23, 2013, 10:32:21 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 23, 2013, 10:08:27 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 23, 2013, 10:04:53 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 23, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 24, 2013, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: CT III on October 20, 2012, 10:46:35 AM
Bump.

Well, Warner Brothers won their latest round of copyright fun with Joe Shuster's estate, so SKO's beloved Justice League movie will be able to go ahead as planned.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/warner-bros-wins-big-court-379770




They announced at Comic Con that Man of Steel 2 will be Batman vs. Superman in the summer of 2015. I still haven't seen Man of Steel, but I haven't heard much to give me hope this won't suck.

Bump so Fork can make an excruciatingly painful quip about Matt Damon playing Robin.

If they can work in Jennifer Garner in any tight-fitting costume, it's all good - just cover her Dumbo ears.

Abed Fork is Batman Chuck now.

Affleck will probably be fine. The movie will be as mindlessly entertaining and dumb as Man of Steel was, I'm sure. But...yeah..my initial reaction was not positive.

I'vehadmoreentertainingcolonoscopies'd.

They show Superman movies to foreigners? It's not called Truth, Justice, and the Belgian Way, for fuck's sake.

You're forgetting Mark Millar's classic A Walloon For All Seasons, where Superman is raised by a Flemish chocolatier.

Walloon, or Flemish?  Make up your mind.  Tsk.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Bort on August 25, 2013, 05:19:46 AM
Quote from: Tonker on August 25, 2013, 02:46:34 AM
Quote from: Bort on August 24, 2013, 01:22:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 24, 2013, 12:02:40 PM
Quote from: Tonker on August 24, 2013, 08:47:38 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 23, 2013, 10:32:21 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 23, 2013, 10:08:27 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 23, 2013, 10:04:53 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 23, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 24, 2013, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: CT III on October 20, 2012, 10:46:35 AM
Bump.

Well, Warner Brothers won their latest round of copyright fun with Joe Shuster's estate, so SKO's beloved Justice League movie will be able to go ahead as planned.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/warner-bros-wins-big-court-379770




They announced at Comic Con that Man of Steel 2 will be Batman vs. Superman in the summer of 2015. I still haven't seen Man of Steel, but I haven't heard much to give me hope this won't suck.

Bump so Fork can make an excruciatingly painful quip about Matt Damon playing Robin.

If they can work in Jennifer Garner in any tight-fitting costume, it's all good - just cover her Dumbo ears.

Abed Fork is Batman Chuck now.

Affleck will probably be fine. The movie will be as mindlessly entertaining and dumb as Man of Steel was, I'm sure. But...yeah..my initial reaction was not positive.

I'vehadmoreentertainingcolonoscopies'd.

They show Superman movies to foreigners? It's not called Truth, Justice, and the Belgian Way, for fuck's sake.

You're forgetting Mark Millar's classic A Walloon For All Seasons, where Superman is raised by a Flemish chocolatier.

Walloon, or Flemish?  Make up your mind.  Tsk.

For an Australian, you sure are anal about the terms used in your adopted home.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Slaky on August 25, 2013, 04:29:21 PM
Watching the final Dark Knight flick again I feel like they left a lot to be desired. I still think the animated films both Year One and The Dark Knight Returns were better.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on August 25, 2013, 04:53:32 PM
Quote from: Slaky on August 25, 2013, 04:29:21 PM
Watching the final Dark Knight flick again I feel like they left a lot to be desired. I still think the animated films both Year One and The Dark Knight Returns were better.

I still love Rises, but it has its flaws. I feel like it tried to accomplish too much in the time it had, but the performances, the ending, and Bane in particular were so perfect it's hard for me to complain. That said, both Year One and Returns were outstanding. The final confrontation with the Joker in Returns was so brutal and magnificent.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on February 10, 2014, 04:34:08 PM
So I went to the library and picked up volumes 1-3 of the New 52 Batman title by Scott Snyder. It's good stuff. I liked it a lot more than what Grant Morrison's done with Batman the last five-six years (I don't dislike him by any stretch, but I also don't think of him as the Best Batman Writer Evar like many I know do). Led to me getting a comixology subscription and subscribing to an active title for the first time in ten years. I'd recommend it to any Batman fans, especially those who like the Arkham Games, since it's pretty close to that version of the character/universe.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on July 23, 2014, 10:38:44 AM
TPD:

Today is Batman Day, and comixology is having an absolutely Massive Batman sale. The app is free to download, I think, and they have up to 750 different Batman comics on sale for .99, plus several graphic novels for 2.99 (normally $12.99). I bought Year One, The Dark Knight Returns, The Black Mirror, and The Killing Joke for less than $12.00. So if you like Batman and have a smart phone/tablet....this is something you might want to look into.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: PenFoe on January 06, 2015, 12:08:34 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2014, 10:38:44 AM
TPD:

Today is Batman Day, and comixology is having an absolutely Massive Batman sale. The app is free to download, I think, and they have up to 750 different Batman comics on sale for .99, plus several graphic novels for 2.99 (normally $12.99). I bought Year One, The Dark Knight Returns, The Black Mirror, and The Killing Joke for less than $12.00. So if you like Batman and have a smart phone/tablet....this is something you might want to look into.

My 5-year old daughter has gotten pretty into Harley Quinn the past couple of months.  I have no idea how this happened.

I got her "Preludes and Knock Knock Jokes" but it's a little advanced for a 5-year old.

Any recommendations would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on January 06, 2015, 12:49:49 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2015, 12:08:34 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2014, 10:38:44 AM
TPD:

Today is Batman Day, and comixology is having an absolutely Massive Batman sale. The app is free to download, I think, and they have up to 750 different Batman comics on sale for .99, plus several graphic novels for 2.99 (normally $12.99). I bought Year One, The Dark Knight Returns, The Black Mirror, and The Killing Joke for less than $12.00. So if you like Batman and have a smart phone/tablet....this is something you might want to look into.

My 5-year old daughter has gotten pretty into Harley Quinn the past couple of months.  I have no idea how this happened.

I got her "Preludes and Knock Knock Jokes" but it's a little advanced for a 5-year old.

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

My recommendation would be to try and have her like a character who isn't terrible and frequently written as the sick fantasy of mysognist assholes.

Otherwise, I have no idea. I would honestly hope to god there aren't a ton of young children's books about Harley Quinn. If you find them, let me know, and I'll mourn for this country.

I guess Mad Love would be okay. It's just the comic book adaption of the animated series episode about Harley's origin. It's still fairly complex but shouldn't be traumatizing, at least.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on January 06, 2015, 12:56:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2015, 12:08:34 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2014, 10:38:44 AM
TPD:

Today is Batman Day, and comixology is having an absolutely Massive Batman sale. The app is free to download, I think, and they have up to 750 different Batman comics on sale for .99, plus several graphic novels for 2.99 (normally $12.99). I bought Year One, The Dark Knight Returns, The Black Mirror, and The Killing Joke for less than $12.00. So if you like Batman and have a smart phone/tablet....this is something you might want to look into.

My 5-year old daughter has gotten pretty into Harley Quinn the past couple of months.  I have no idea how this happened.

I got her "Preludes and Knock Knock Jokes" but it's a little advanced for a 5-year old.

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

DPD but not that Harley Quinn as she was depicted on the cartoon at least is anymore disturbing than the Joker, or anything, and I can see how the funny accent and stuff could be appealing to a kid, but as far as the books go she's been largely re-written over the last decade to be just a really deplorable character who is frequently forced into some pretty degrading situations, so you're probably not gonna find too many books that you'd want the kid reading.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: PenFoe on January 06, 2015, 12:57:36 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2015, 12:56:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2015, 12:08:34 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2014, 10:38:44 AM
TPD:

Today is Batman Day, and comixology is having an absolutely Massive Batman sale. The app is free to download, I think, and they have up to 750 different Batman comics on sale for .99, plus several graphic novels for 2.99 (normally $12.99). I bought Year One, The Dark Knight Returns, The Black Mirror, and The Killing Joke for less than $12.00. So if you like Batman and have a smart phone/tablet....this is something you might want to look into.

My 5-year old daughter has gotten pretty into Harley Quinn the past couple of months.  I have no idea how this happened.

I got her "Preludes and Knock Knock Jokes" but it's a little advanced for a 5-year old.

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

DPD but not that Harley Quinn as she was depicted on the cartoon at least is anymore disturbing than the Joker, or anything, and I can see how the funny accent and stuff could be appealing to a kid, but as far as the books go she's been largely re-written over the last decade to be just a really deplorable character who is frequently forced into some pretty degrading situations, so you're probably not gonna find too many books that you'd want the kid reading.

I got Mad Love also. 

I'm sure, like everything else, this will be a few month phase and then we'll be on to something else totally bizarre.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on January 06, 2015, 01:03:03 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2015, 12:57:36 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2015, 12:56:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2015, 12:08:34 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2014, 10:38:44 AM
TPD:

Today is Batman Day, and comixology is having an absolutely Massive Batman sale. The app is free to download, I think, and they have up to 750 different Batman comics on sale for .99, plus several graphic novels for 2.99 (normally $12.99). I bought Year One, The Dark Knight Returns, The Black Mirror, and The Killing Joke for less than $12.00. So if you like Batman and have a smart phone/tablet....this is something you might want to look into.

My 5-year old daughter has gotten pretty into Harley Quinn the past couple of months.  I have no idea how this happened.

I got her "Preludes and Knock Knock Jokes" but it's a little advanced for a 5-year old.

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

DPD but not that Harley Quinn as she was depicted on the cartoon at least is anymore disturbing than the Joker, or anything, and I can see how the funny accent and stuff could be appealing to a kid, but as far as the books go she's been largely re-written over the last decade to be just a really deplorable character who is frequently forced into some pretty degrading situations, so you're probably not gonna find too many books that you'd want the kid reading.

I got Mad Love also. 

I'm sure, like everything else, this will be a few month phase and then we'll be on to something else totally bizarre.

Yeah. Harley is a character that's interesting and sympathetic when used properly, like the TV show used her, and otherwise can venture into a creepy misogynistic portrayal of a woman in an abusive relationship really quickly, so I would hope she moves on before that stuff could actually make sense to her.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Bort on January 06, 2015, 01:34:47 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2015, 01:03:03 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2015, 12:57:36 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2015, 12:56:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2015, 12:08:34 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2014, 10:38:44 AM
TPD:

Today is Batman Day, and comixology is having an absolutely Massive Batman sale. The app is free to download, I think, and they have up to 750 different Batman comics on sale for .99, plus several graphic novels for 2.99 (normally $12.99). I bought Year One, The Dark Knight Returns, The Black Mirror, and The Killing Joke for less than $12.00. So if you like Batman and have a smart phone/tablet....this is something you might want to look into.

My 5-year old daughter has gotten pretty into Harley Quinn the past couple of months.  I have no idea how this happened.

I got her "Preludes and Knock Knock Jokes" but it's a little advanced for a 5-year old.

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

DPD but not that Harley Quinn as she was depicted on the cartoon at least is anymore disturbing than the Joker, or anything, and I can see how the funny accent and stuff could be appealing to a kid, but as far as the books go she's been largely re-written over the last decade to be just a really deplorable character who is frequently forced into some pretty degrading situations, so you're probably not gonna find too many books that you'd want the kid reading.

I got Mad Love also. 

I'm sure, like everything else, this will be a few month phase and then we'll be on to something else totally bizarre.

Yeah. Harley is a character that's interesting and sympathetic when used properly, like the TV show used her, and otherwise can venture into a creepy misogynistic portrayal of a woman in an abusive relationship really quickly, so I would hope she moves on before that stuff could actually make sense to her.

Yeah. The last page of Mad Love, which is...arguably the best comic portrayal of her, includes a reference to the classic soul song "He Hit Me (and It Felt Like a Kiss)." She's best seen on the TV show.

I don't know if they've been reprinted, but the Batman Adventures comics from the 90s, based on the cartoon show's aesthetic, also have some decent Harley stories, if I recall. 
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on January 06, 2015, 01:38:47 PM
Quote from: Bort on January 06, 2015, 01:34:47 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2015, 01:03:03 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2015, 12:57:36 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2015, 12:56:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2015, 12:08:34 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2014, 10:38:44 AM
TPD:

Today is Batman Day, and comixology is having an absolutely Massive Batman sale. The app is free to download, I think, and they have up to 750 different Batman comics on sale for .99, plus several graphic novels for 2.99 (normally $12.99). I bought Year One, The Dark Knight Returns, The Black Mirror, and The Killing Joke for less than $12.00. So if you like Batman and have a smart phone/tablet....this is something you might want to look into.

My 5-year old daughter has gotten pretty into Harley Quinn the past couple of months.  I have no idea how this happened.

I got her "Preludes and Knock Knock Jokes" but it's a little advanced for a 5-year old.

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

DPD but not that Harley Quinn as she was depicted on the cartoon at least is anymore disturbing than the Joker, or anything, and I can see how the funny accent and stuff could be appealing to a kid, but as far as the books go she's been largely re-written over the last decade to be just a really deplorable character who is frequently forced into some pretty degrading situations, so you're probably not gonna find too many books that you'd want the kid reading.

I got Mad Love also. 

I'm sure, like everything else, this will be a few month phase and then we'll be on to something else totally bizarre.

Yeah. Harley is a character that's interesting and sympathetic when used properly, like the TV show used her, and otherwise can venture into a creepy misogynistic portrayal of a woman in an abusive relationship really quickly, so I would hope she moves on before that stuff could actually make sense to her.

Yeah. The last page of Mad Love, which is...arguably the best comic portrayal of her, includes a reference to the classic soul song "He Hit Me (and It Felt Like a Kiss)." She's best seen on the TV show.

I don't know if they've been reprinted, but the Batman Adventures comics from the 90s, based on the cartoon show's aesthetic, also have some decent Harley stories, if I recall. 

You can get em for .99 a piece on comixology.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: Quality Start Machine on January 06, 2015, 02:13:15 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2015, 12:56:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2015, 12:08:34 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2014, 10:38:44 AM
TPD:

Today is Batman Day, and comixology is having an absolutely Massive Batman sale. The app is free to download, I think, and they have up to 750 different Batman comics on sale for .99, plus several graphic novels for 2.99 (normally $12.99). I bought Year One, The Dark Knight Returns, The Black Mirror, and The Killing Joke for less than $12.00. So if you like Batman and have a smart phone/tablet....this is something you might want to look into.

My 5-year old daughter has gotten pretty into Harley Quinn the past couple of months.  I have no idea how this happened.

I got her "Preludes and Knock Knock Jokes" but it's a little advanced for a 5-year old.

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

DPD but not that Harley Quinn as she was depicted on the cartoon at least is anymore disturbing than the Joker, or anything, and I can see how the funny accent and stuff could be appealing to a kid, but as far as the books go she's been largely re-written over the last decade to be just a really deplorable character who is frequently forced into some pretty degrading situations, so you're probably not gonna find too many books that you'd want the kid reading.

Listen to Mr. Expert...how many letters have YOU had published in comics?
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: PenFoe on May 05, 2015, 02:58:10 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2015, 01:38:47 PM
Quote from: Bort on January 06, 2015, 01:34:47 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2015, 01:03:03 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2015, 12:57:36 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2015, 12:56:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2015, 12:08:34 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2014, 10:38:44 AM
TPD:

Today is Batman Day, and comixology is having an absolutely Massive Batman sale. The app is free to download, I think, and they have up to 750 different Batman comics on sale for .99, plus several graphic novels for 2.99 (normally $12.99). I bought Year One, The Dark Knight Returns, The Black Mirror, and The Killing Joke for less than $12.00. So if you like Batman and have a smart phone/tablet....this is something you might want to look into.

My 5-year old daughter has gotten pretty into Harley Quinn the past couple of months.  I have no idea how this happened.

I got her "Preludes and Knock Knock Jokes" but it's a little advanced for a 5-year old.

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

DPD but not that Harley Quinn as she was depicted on the cartoon at least is anymore disturbing than the Joker, or anything, and I can see how the funny accent and stuff could be appealing to a kid, but as far as the books go she's been largely re-written over the last decade to be just a really deplorable character who is frequently forced into some pretty degrading situations, so you're probably not gonna find too many books that you'd want the kid reading.

I got Mad Love also. 

I'm sure, like everything else, this will be a few month phase and then we'll be on to something else totally bizarre.

Yeah. Harley is a character that's interesting and sympathetic when used properly, like the TV show used her, and otherwise can venture into a creepy misogynistic portrayal of a woman in an abusive relationship really quickly, so I would hope she moves on before that stuff could actually make sense to her.

Yeah. The last page of Mad Love, which is...arguably the best comic portrayal of her, includes a reference to the classic soul song "He Hit Me (and It Felt Like a Kiss)." She's best seen on the TV show.

I don't know if they've been reprinted, but the Batman Adventures comics from the 90s, based on the cartoon show's aesthetic, also have some decent Harley stories, if I recall. 

You can get em for .99 a piece on comixology.

Pretty glad that her Harley Quinn phase is 90% over, considering the photos released of Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn (http://imgur.com/a/AAtal) in some new dorky movie.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on May 05, 2015, 03:08:12 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 05, 2015, 02:58:10 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2015, 01:38:47 PM
Quote from: Bort on January 06, 2015, 01:34:47 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2015, 01:03:03 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2015, 12:57:36 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2015, 12:56:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2015, 12:08:34 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2014, 10:38:44 AM
TPD:

Today is Batman Day, and comixology is having an absolutely Massive Batman sale. The app is free to download, I think, and they have up to 750 different Batman comics on sale for .99, plus several graphic novels for 2.99 (normally $12.99). I bought Year One, The Dark Knight Returns, The Black Mirror, and The Killing Joke for less than $12.00. So if you like Batman and have a smart phone/tablet....this is something you might want to look into.

My 5-year old daughter has gotten pretty into Harley Quinn the past couple of months.  I have no idea how this happened.

I got her "Preludes and Knock Knock Jokes" but it's a little advanced for a 5-year old.

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

DPD but not that Harley Quinn as she was depicted on the cartoon at least is anymore disturbing than the Joker, or anything, and I can see how the funny accent and stuff could be appealing to a kid, but as far as the books go she's been largely re-written over the last decade to be just a really deplorable character who is frequently forced into some pretty degrading situations, so you're probably not gonna find too many books that you'd want the kid reading.

I got Mad Love also. 

I'm sure, like everything else, this will be a few month phase and then we'll be on to something else totally bizarre.

Yeah. Harley is a character that's interesting and sympathetic when used properly, like the TV show used her, and otherwise can venture into a creepy misogynistic portrayal of a woman in an abusive relationship really quickly, so I would hope she moves on before that stuff could actually make sense to her.

Yeah. The last page of Mad Love, which is...arguably the best comic portrayal of her, includes a reference to the classic soul song "He Hit Me (and It Felt Like a Kiss)." She's best seen on the TV show.

I don't know if they've been reprinted, but the Batman Adventures comics from the 90s, based on the cartoon show's aesthetic, also have some decent Harley stories, if I recall. 

You can get em for .99 a piece on comixology.

Pretty glad that her Harley Quinn phase is 90% over, considering the photos released of Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn (http://imgur.com/a/AAtal) in some new dorky movie.

Honestly that costume's not as awful as I thought it would be. I hate that character so much though. Glad she's moving on. You should get her to read Batgirl or something.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: PenFoe on May 05, 2015, 03:11:21 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 05, 2015, 03:08:12 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 05, 2015, 02:58:10 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2015, 01:38:47 PM
Quote from: Bort on January 06, 2015, 01:34:47 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2015, 01:03:03 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2015, 12:57:36 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2015, 12:56:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2015, 12:08:34 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2014, 10:38:44 AM
TPD:

Today is Batman Day, and comixology is having an absolutely Massive Batman sale. The app is free to download, I think, and they have up to 750 different Batman comics on sale for .99, plus several graphic novels for 2.99 (normally $12.99). I bought Year One, The Dark Knight Returns, The Black Mirror, and The Killing Joke for less than $12.00. So if you like Batman and have a smart phone/tablet....this is something you might want to look into.

My 5-year old daughter has gotten pretty into Harley Quinn the past couple of months.  I have no idea how this happened.

I got her "Preludes and Knock Knock Jokes" but it's a little advanced for a 5-year old.

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

DPD but not that Harley Quinn as she was depicted on the cartoon at least is anymore disturbing than the Joker, or anything, and I can see how the funny accent and stuff could be appealing to a kid, but as far as the books go she's been largely re-written over the last decade to be just a really deplorable character who is frequently forced into some pretty degrading situations, so you're probably not gonna find too many books that you'd want the kid reading.

I got Mad Love also. 

I'm sure, like everything else, this will be a few month phase and then we'll be on to something else totally bizarre.

Yeah. Harley is a character that's interesting and sympathetic when used properly, like the TV show used her, and otherwise can venture into a creepy misogynistic portrayal of a woman in an abusive relationship really quickly, so I would hope she moves on before that stuff could actually make sense to her.

Yeah. The last page of Mad Love, which is...arguably the best comic portrayal of her, includes a reference to the classic soul song "He Hit Me (and It Felt Like a Kiss)." She's best seen on the TV show.

I don't know if they've been reprinted, but the Batman Adventures comics from the 90s, based on the cartoon show's aesthetic, also have some decent Harley stories, if I recall. 

You can get em for .99 a piece on comixology.

Pretty glad that her Harley Quinn phase is 90% over, considering the photos released of Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn (http://imgur.com/a/AAtal) in some new dorky movie.

Honestly that costume's not as awful as I thought it would be. I hate that character so much though. Glad she's moving on. You should get her to read Batgirl or something.

We're actually just not reading comics at all.
Felt that was a better long-term investment.
Title: Re: Batman books
Post by: SKO on May 05, 2015, 03:16:03 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 05, 2015, 03:11:21 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 05, 2015, 03:08:12 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 05, 2015, 02:58:10 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2015, 01:38:47 PM
Quote from: Bort on January 06, 2015, 01:34:47 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2015, 01:03:03 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2015, 12:57:36 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 06, 2015, 12:56:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 06, 2015, 12:08:34 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2014, 10:38:44 AM
TPD:

Today is Batman Day, and comixology is having an absolutely Massive Batman sale. The app is free to download, I think, and they have up to 750 different Batman comics on sale for .99, plus several graphic novels for 2.99 (normally $12.99). I bought Year One, The Dark Knight Returns, The Black Mirror, and The Killing Joke for less than $12.00. So if you like Batman and have a smart phone/tablet....this is something you might want to look into.

My 5-year old daughter has gotten pretty into Harley Quinn the past couple of months.  I have no idea how this happened.

I got her "Preludes and Knock Knock Jokes" but it's a little advanced for a 5-year old.

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

DPD but not that Harley Quinn as she was depicted on the cartoon at least is anymore disturbing than the Joker, or anything, and I can see how the funny accent and stuff could be appealing to a kid, but as far as the books go she's been largely re-written over the last decade to be just a really deplorable character who is frequently forced into some pretty degrading situations, so you're probably not gonna find too many books that you'd want the kid reading.

I got Mad Love also. 

I'm sure, like everything else, this will be a few month phase and then we'll be on to something else totally bizarre.

Yeah. Harley is a character that's interesting and sympathetic when used properly, like the TV show used her, and otherwise can venture into a creepy misogynistic portrayal of a woman in an abusive relationship really quickly, so I would hope she moves on before that stuff could actually make sense to her.

Yeah. The last page of Mad Love, which is...arguably the best comic portrayal of her, includes a reference to the classic soul song "He Hit Me (and It Felt Like a Kiss)." She's best seen on the TV show.

I don't know if they've been reprinted, but the Batman Adventures comics from the 90s, based on the cartoon show's aesthetic, also have some decent Harley stories, if I recall. 

You can get em for .99 a piece on comixology.

Pretty glad that her Harley Quinn phase is 90% over, considering the photos released of Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn (http://imgur.com/a/AAtal) in some new dorky movie.

Honestly that costume's not as awful as I thought it would be. I hate that character so much though. Glad she's moving on. You should get her to read Batgirl or something.

We're actually just not reading comics at all.
Felt that was a better long-term investment.

Fair enough.