I can't wait. (http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/07/11/better-call-saul-photos/) Please don't suck.
Mike is coming back. That alone should make this stupendous.
DPD.
The Better Call Saul song. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGsC_LO3oFY&spfreload=1)
Performed by... God Junior Fucking Brown.
Thumbs-up for "Uno."
I'll post more after watching the second episode tonight. This has potential to be a good show with lots of Bob Odenkirk being fantastic and I'm all good with that.
Anybody else see it or were you watching the Grammys like soulless shitbag?
Quote from: InternetApex on February 09, 2015, 12:31:42 PM
Thumbs-up for "Uno."
I'll post more after watching the second episode tonight. This has potential to be a good show with lots of Bob Odenkirk being fantastic and I'm all good with that.
Anybody else see it or were to watching the Grammys like soulless shitbag?
Fuck the Grammy's. I was all-in. When they first mentioned a spin-off, it sounded funny but ridiculous.... VERY early returns say the ridiculous part is probably wrong.
Very curious to see where they go. BB had a set goal: Make Mr. Chips into Scarface. So, what's this? Take schmuck from Cicero and make him Omaha Cinnebon manager by way of Albuquerque Law? Clearly there's more to it. Gilligan has piles of earned credit. I'm in.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 09, 2015, 01:26:57 PM
Very curious to see where they go. BB had a set goal: Make Mr. Chips into Scarface. So, what's this? Take schmuck from Cicero and make him Omaha Cinnebon manager by way of Albuquerque Law? Clearly there's more to it. Gilligan has piles of earned credit. I'm in.
The point may be just to make us laugh for an hour a week. And I'd be fine with that too.
I really enjoyed the 1st. episode, funny and pulls you in. The build to the last scene was awesome. I can't wait for tonights follow up.
"Tight! Tight! Tight! Yeah!"
Now I gotta wait until next Monday? Crap.
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Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 09, 2015, 01:26:57 PM
Very curious to see where they go. BB had a set goal: Make Mr. Chips into Scarface. So, what's this? Take schmuck from Cicero and make him Omaha Cinnebon manager by way of Albuquerque Law? Clearly there's more to it. Gilligan has piles of earned credit. I'm in.
The point may be just to make us laugh for an hour a week. And I'd be fine with that too.
Maybe. And I'd also be fine with that. That was my first take when I heard about the show: 30 minute sitcom. This feels like there's something more.
Regardless, I'm in.
Uno is a promising start. Loved the little hints toward Breaking Bad, too: The montages, obviously. Saul watching his commercials, even more obviously. Cinnabon in Omaha. Making it look like Saul/Jimmy was walking to a Cadillac before panning over to show his beater. Now I want a prequel for Mike, though, to explain how he ended up going from Baltimore cop to parking lot attendant.
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Quote from: InternetApex on February 09, 2015, 01:31:13 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 09, 2015, 01:26:57 PM
Very curious to see where they go. BB had a set goal: Make Mr. Chips into Scarface. So, what's this? Take schmuck from Cicero and make him Omaha Cinnebon manager by way of Albuquerque Law? Clearly there's more to it. Gilligan has piles of earned credit. I'm in.
The point may be just to make us laugh for an hour a week. And I'd be fine with that too.
Maybe. And I'd also be fine with that. That was my first take when I heard about the show: 30 minute sitcom. This feels like there's something more.
Regardless, I'm in.
Bob Odenkirk has an interview with Andy Greenwald on a Grantland Podcast, in which he mentions that there is a "Mike" episode coming up that is as dark as anything the team has ever made. So maybe it's not all lolz.
Here's the podcast page.
http://grantland.com/podcasts/
Interesting statement from Odenkirk, quoting Peter Gould a creator of the show about the question this show is trying to answer: "What problems would a person have that becoming Saul Goodman would solve?"
Another long, prodigious, home run. This show has reached, look at the clock and plead for a few more minutes of screen time awesome.
Quote from: InternetApex on February 24, 2015, 10:19:09 AM
Another long, prodigious, home run. This show has reached, look at the clock and plead for a few more minutes of screen time awesome.
I can do without Chuck's neuroses. Loved the call out to "The Sting."
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 10:29:16 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 24, 2015, 10:19:09 AM
Another long, prodigious, home run. This show has reached, look at the clock and plead for a few more minutes of screen time awesome.
I can do without Chuck's neuroses. Loved the call out to "The Sting."
Yeah, that part's corny. I'm guessing he won't be long for this program though.
Quote from: InternetApex on February 24, 2015, 10:19:09 AM
Another long, prodigious, home run. This show has reached, look at the clock and plead for a few more minutes of screen time awesome.
Random thoughts about last night's show... I found last night's show to be creepy.
Question. Why did he use his sudden wealth to mimic his nemesis?
His hero-act on TV was bizarre. Sure, it got him attention, but how did he ever think it up?
Saul/McGill has too many dimensions. This is TV after all. TV has to be predictable. He should be all bad or all good. To have him be simultaneously good and bad makes him unpredictable.
Quote from: CBStew on February 24, 2015, 06:38:42 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 24, 2015, 10:19:09 AM
Another long, prodigious, home run. This show has reached, look at the clock and plead for a few more minutes of screen time awesome.
Random thoughts about last night's show... I found last night's show to be creepy.
Question. Why did he use his sudden wealth to mimic his nemesis?
His hero-act on TV was bizarre. Sure, it got him attention, but how did he ever think it up?
Saul/McGill has too many dimensions. This is TV after all. TV has to be predictable. He should be all bad or all good. To have him be simultaneously good and bad makes him unpredictable.
Did you ... watch ... Breaking Bad?
Quote from: Sterling Archer on February 24, 2015, 08:41:29 PM
Quote from: CBStew on February 24, 2015, 06:38:42 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 24, 2015, 10:19:09 AM
Another long, prodigious, home run. This show has reached, look at the clock and plead for a few more minutes of screen time awesome.
Random thoughts about last night's show... I found last night's show to be creepy.
Question. Why did he use his sudden wealth to mimic his nemesis?
His hero-act on TV was bizarre. Sure, it got him attention, but how did he ever think it up?
Saul/McGill has too many dimensions. This is TV after all. TV has to be predictable. He should be all bad or all good. To have him be simultaneously good and bad makes him unpredictable.
Did you ... watch ... Breaking Bad?
Breaking what?
Quote from: CBStew on February 25, 2015, 09:32:37 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on February 24, 2015, 08:41:29 PM
Quote from: CBStew on February 24, 2015, 06:38:42 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 24, 2015, 10:19:09 AM
Another long, prodigious, home run. This show has reached, look at the clock and plead for a few more minutes of screen time awesome.
Random thoughts about last night's show... I found last night's show to be creepy.
Question. Why did he use his sudden wealth to mimic his nemesis?
His hero-act on TV was bizarre. Sure, it got him attention, but how did he ever think it up?
Saul/McGill has too many dimensions. This is TV after all. TV has to be predictable. He should be all bad or all good. To have him be simultaneously good and bad makes him unpredictable.
Did you ... watch ... Breaking Bad?
Breaking what?
He knew his nemesis would force him to take the billboard down and he could stage that bizarre event to publicly shame him. This is how Jimmy's mind works. He's a schemer and the more he talks the more he falls in love with the sound of his own voice. With each victory, we see him gaining confidence and morphing into someone who could relish representing the Heisenbergs of the world.
What we don't know exactly, is why he hates his brother's partners so much. He's an angry, petty, jealous man for sure but there's got to be more there and I believe the journey of this season will be to show what transpired in a very Gilliganesque manner.
What problems could a person have that becoming Saul Goodman would possibly solve? Stay tuned!
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 24, 2015, 10:29:16 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 24, 2015, 10:19:09 AM
Another long, prodigious, home run. This show has reached, look at the clock and plead for a few more minutes of screen time awesome.
I can do without Chuck's neuroses. Loved the call out to "The Sting." blog.
Quote from: InternetApex on February 25, 2015, 09:38:25 AM
Quote from: CBStew on February 25, 2015, 09:32:37 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on February 24, 2015, 08:41:29 PM
Quote from: CBStew on February 24, 2015, 06:38:42 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 24, 2015, 10:19:09 AM
Another long, prodigious, home run. This show has reached, look at the clock and plead for a few more minutes of screen time awesome.
Random thoughts about last night's show... I found last night's show to be creepy.
Question. Why did he use his sudden wealth to mimic his nemesis?
His hero-act on TV was bizarre. Sure, it got him attention, but how did he ever think it up?
Saul/McGill has too many dimensions. This is TV after all. TV has to be predictable. He should be all bad or all good. To have him be simultaneously good and bad makes him unpredictable.
Did you ... watch ... Breaking Bad?
Breaking what?
He knew his nemesis would force him to take the billboard down and he could stage that bizarre event to publicly shame him. This is how Jimmy's mind works. He's a schemer and the more he talks the more he falls in love with the sound of his own voice. With each victory, we see him gaining confidence and morphing into someone who could relish representing the Heisenbergs of the world.
What we don't know exactly, is why he hates his brother's partners so much. He's an angry, petty, jealous man for sure but there's got to be more there and I believe the journey of this season will be to show what transpired in a very Gilliganesque manner.
What problems could a person have that becoming Saul Goodman would possibly solve? Stay tuned!
's all good, man.
Quote from: CBStew on February 25, 2015, 01:53:56 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 25, 2015, 09:38:25 AM
Quote from: CBStew on February 25, 2015, 09:32:37 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on February 24, 2015, 08:41:29 PM
Quote from: CBStew on February 24, 2015, 06:38:42 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 24, 2015, 10:19:09 AM
Another long, prodigious, home run. This show has reached, look at the clock and plead for a few more minutes of screen time awesome.
Random thoughts about last night's show... I found last night's show to be creepy.
Question. Why did he use his sudden wealth to mimic his nemesis?
His hero-act on TV was bizarre. Sure, it got him attention, but how did he ever think it up?
Saul/McGill has too many dimensions. This is TV after all. TV has to be predictable. He should be all bad or all good. To have him be simultaneously good and bad makes him unpredictable.
Did you ... watch ... Breaking Bad?
Breaking what?
He knew his nemesis would force him to take the billboard down and he could stage that bizarre event to publicly shame him. This is how Jimmy's mind works. He's a schemer and the more he talks the more he falls in love with the sound of his own voice. With each victory, we see him gaining confidence and morphing into someone who could relish representing the Heisenbergs of the world.
What we don't know exactly, is why he hates his brother's partners so much. He's an angry, petty, jealous man for sure but there's got to be more there and I believe the journey of this season will be to show what transpired in a very Gilliganesque manner.
What problems could a person have that becoming Saul Goodman would possibly solve? Stay tuned!
's all good, man.
hey, i see what you did there. is that from the show?
Quote from: JD on February 25, 2015, 02:12:33 PM
Quote from: CBStew on February 25, 2015, 01:53:56 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 25, 2015, 09:38:25 AM
Quote from: CBStew on February 25, 2015, 09:32:37 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on February 24, 2015, 08:41:29 PM
Quote from: CBStew on February 24, 2015, 06:38:42 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 24, 2015, 10:19:09 AM
Another long, prodigious, home run. This show has reached, look at the clock and plead for a few more minutes of screen time awesome.
Random thoughts about last night's show... I found last night's show to be creepy.
Question. Why did he use his sudden wealth to mimic his nemesis?
His hero-act on TV was bizarre. Sure, it got him attention, but how did he ever think it up?
Saul/McGill has too many dimensions. This is TV after all. TV has to be predictable. He should be all bad or all good. To have him be simultaneously good and bad makes him unpredictable.
Did you ... watch ... Breaking Bad?
Breaking what?
He knew his nemesis would force him to take the billboard down and he could stage that bizarre event to publicly shame him. This is how Jimmy's mind works. He's a schemer and the more he talks the more he falls in love with the sound of his own voice. With each victory, we see him gaining confidence and morphing into someone who could relish representing the Heisenbergs of the world.
What we don't know exactly, is why he hates his brother's partners so much. He's an angry, petty, jealous man for sure but there's got to be more there and I believe the journey of this season will be to show what transpired in a very Gilliganesque manner.
What problems could a person have that becoming Saul Goodman would possibly solve? Stay tuned!
's all good, man.
hey, i see what you did there. is that from the show?
Yes. It was last night's opening scene.
I think I've watched the sex toilet scene 5 times. Still hilarious.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on March 08, 2015, 09:03:06 PM
I think I've watched the sex toilet scene 5 times. Still hilarious.
Holy shit yes.
The "Mike" episode was complete and utter titsteak. It's no use trying to decide which series is better between Saul and Breaking Bad. It's the same show. You can pick which one you like better. I personally enjoy this show better. It's funnier. And I don't hate every single person on it with the fire of a thousand suns.
However, I watched the "Better Call Saul" episode of Breaking Bad right after last night's ep and realize that Saul himself is a fucking slime bucket far beyond anything he's displayed as Jimmy McGill. That transformation is underway. I wonder how long they plan to take in getting there. Hopefully about 25 seasons.
Now back to Mike. That was a character most people really liked and for good reason. This episode was such a star turn for Jonathan Banks that this character is now embedded in the top shelf of greatest TV characters all time. My God, that was unbelievable. Every single scene.
http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/the-full-measure-better-call-saul-the-origins-of-mike-ehrmantraut-and-a-side-mans-shine/
Quote from: InternetApex on March 10, 2015, 09:55:48 AM
The "Mike" episode was complete and utter titsteak. It's no use trying to decide which series is better between Saul and Breaking Bad. It's the same show. You can pick which one you like better. I personally enjoy this show better. It's funnier. And I don't hate every single person on it with the fire of a thousand suns.
However, I watched the "Better Call Saul" episode of Breaking Bad right after last night's ep and realize that Saul himself is a fucking slime bucket far beyond anything he's displayed as Jimmy McGill. That transformation is underway. I wonder how long they plan to take in getting there. Hopefully about 25 seasons.
Now back to Mike. That was a character most people really liked and for good reason. This episode was such a star turn for Jonathan Banks that this character is now embedded in the top shelf of greatest TV characters all time. My God, that was unbelievable. Every single scene.
SPOILER ALERT..................
If he hadn't pulled that trigger I would not only have written this episode off as morose and dull, I would have crossed the program off my "must watch" list.
Quote from: InternetApex on March 10, 2015, 09:55:48 AM
The "Mike" episode was complete and utter titsteak. It's no use trying to decide which series is better between Saul and Breaking Bad. It's the same show. You can pick which one you like better. I personally enjoy this show better. It's funnier. And I don't hate every single person on it with the fire of a thousand suns.
However, I watched the "Better Call Saul" episode of Breaking Bad right after last night's ep and realize that Saul himself is a fucking slime bucket far beyond anything he's displayed as Jimmy McGill. That transformation is underway. I wonder how long they plan to take in getting there. Hopefully about 25 seasons.
Now back to Mike. That was a character most people really liked and for good reason. This episode was such a star turn for Jonathan Banks that this character is now embedded in the top shelf of greatest TV characters all time. My God, that was unbelievable. Every single scene.
"Lawyer"
All of you young fathers should teach this.
Edit: I'm not going to comment on the rest of the episode because spoilers and all of that.
Now the Pex review of the Mike / Jonathan Banks performance may seem like hyperbole. But I can't fault him for saying those things when I actually felt the need to watch the episode for a second time just because it was so well crafted.
Really great writing, character, acting.
Just outstanding.
Quote from: flannj on March 12, 2015, 08:25:17 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 10, 2015, 09:55:48 AM
The "Mike" episode was complete and utter titsteak. It's no use trying to decide which series is better between Saul and Breaking Bad. It's the same show. You can pick which one you like better. I personally enjoy this show better. It's funnier. And I don't hate every single person on it with the fire of a thousand suns.
However, I watched the "Better Call Saul" episode of Breaking Bad right after last night's ep and realize that Saul himself is a fucking slime bucket far beyond anything he's displayed as Jimmy McGill. That transformation is underway. I wonder how long they plan to take in getting there. Hopefully about 25 seasons.
Now back to Mike. That was a character most people really liked and for good reason. This episode was such a star turn for Jonathan Banks that this character is now embedded in the top shelf of greatest TV characters all time. My God, that was unbelievable. Every single scene.
"Lawyer"
All of you young fathers should teach this.
Edit: I'm not going to comment on the rest of the episode because spoilers and all of that.
Now the Pex review of the Mike / Jonathan Banks performance may seem like hyperbole. But I can't fault him for saying those things when I actually felt the need to watch the episode for a second time just because it was so well crafted.
Really great writing, character, acting.
Just outstanding.
Jesus. I finally watched this last night. That was one of the best hours of television I've ever seen.
Tonight's episode blew me away. The McGill brothers were really talking law. Actual statutes. Accurate citations. It all made sense. Yet it was entertaining, at least to me.
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Quote from: CBStew on March 23, 2015, 11:22:27 PM
Tonight's episode blew me away. The McGill brothers were really talking law. Actual statutes. Accurate citations. It all made sense. Yet it was entertaining, at least to me.
That's cool. I was thinking it was kind of boring but if you're saying that was all worth listening to I'm willing to just relax and enjoy it. I didn't hate it but I wondered if people were going to crap all over it because nobody had their legs snapped in the desert or something. Jimmy actually used to be a semi-likable person.
Quote from: InternetApex on March 24, 2015, 09:59:00 AM
Quote from: CBStew on March 23, 2015, 11:22:27 PM
Tonight's episode blew me away. The McGill brothers were really talking law. Actual statutes. Accurate citations. It all made sense. Yet it was entertaining, at least to me.
That's cool. I was thinking it was kind of boring but if you're saying that was all worth listening to I'm willing to just relax and enjoy it. I didn't hate it but I wondered if people were going to crap all over it because nobody had their legs snapped in the desert or something. Jimmy actually used to be a semi-likable person.
I really enjoyed the episode. This show doesn't really fit into a single genre or style and I like that. I can tune in knowing I might have my anus clenched for 45 minutes or I might be absolutely crushed by a Jonathan Banks performance or I might just have a few laughs and all of the above are fine with me.
Quote from: InternetApex on March 24, 2015, 09:59:00 AM
Quote from: CBStew on March 23, 2015, 11:22:27 PM
Tonight's episode blew me away. The McGill brothers were really talking law. Actual statutes. Accurate citations. It all made sense. Yet it was entertaining, at least to me.
That's cool. I was thinking it was kind of boring but if you're saying that was all worth listening to I'm willing to just relax and enjoy it. I didn't hate it but I wondered if people were going to crap all over it because nobody had their legs snapped in the desert or something. Jimmy actually used to be a semi-likable person.
He'd know better, but Stew's right, for whatever my opinion's worth. The legal stuff was pretty good, much better than most on TV. I studied RICO (http://ricoact.com/?page_id=53) over the summer so that was nice, although it's odd they're sending demand letters and talking settlement figures with opposing counsel without any apparent client consultation whatsoever.
Edit: Rewatched, I guess he did talk to them a little in the home before they started keeping him out. Still though. I haven't looked up the cases they cited on Westlaw (and it would be Westlaw back then, not WestlawNext), but my guess is they'd check out. Tip: Burn documents, never shred, when Chuck is around.
It was really fun to see the McGills team up. It'll make the inevitable disaster that much more depressing.
I probably should have seen that coming last episode, but Patrick Fabian does such a good job playing a smug douche, I figured it had to be him.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on March 31, 2015, 07:17:49 AM
I probably should have seen that coming last episode, but Patrick Fabian does such a good job playing a smug douche, I figured it had to be him.
Did not care for that plot twist. After they spent a couple of episodes making us feel sorry for Jimmy and Chuck, they turn Chuck into a villain. I was sure he was going to drop dead before Jimmy had time to cash in and that would have been a respectable if predictable heart string to tug on. This was unnecessary sudden character movement. That shit where the person you've just invested a bunch of time and emotional capital in turns out to be somebody completely different is the stuff of lazy network procedure dramas. On Breaking Bad people were who they were. We knew who the heroes and villains were and the people on the show didn't. That was the show. This is off by a mile. When and if I go back someday to re-watch, I'm going to have to fast forward through all the Chuck/Jimmy stuff, which is half the season.
The Mike stuff though? Fuck and yes.
Quote from: InternetApex on March 31, 2015, 09:53:12 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on March 31, 2015, 07:17:49 AM
I probably should have seen that coming last episode, but Patrick Fabian does such a good job playing a smug douche, I figured it had to be him.
Did not care for that plot twist. After they spent a couple of episodes making us feel sorry for Jimmy and Chuck, they turn Chuck into a villain. I was sure he was going to drop dead before Jimmy had time to cash in and that would have been a respectable if predictable heart string to tug on. This was unnecessary sudden character movement. That shit where the person you've just invested a bunch of time and emotional capital in turns out to be somebody completely different is the stuff of lazy network procedure dramas. On Breaking Bad people were who they were. We knew who the heroes and villains were and the people on the show didn't. That was the show. This is off by a mile. When and if I go back someday to re-watch, I'm going to have to fast forward through all the Chuck/Jimmy stuff, which is half the season.
The Mike stuff though? Fuck and yes.
They hinted at it when Chuck wasn't very excited about Jimmy passing the bar. I figured Howard was going to steal the case from Jimmy, and Chuck would side with him against his brother. Having Chuck be bad isn't that far out of left field.
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Quote from: InternetApex on March 31, 2015, 09:53:12 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on March 31, 2015, 07:17:49 AM
I probably should have seen that coming last episode, but Patrick Fabian does such a good job playing a smug douche, I figured it had to be him.
Did not care for that plot twist. After they spent a couple of episodes making us feel sorry for Jimmy and Chuck, they turn Chuck into a villain. I was sure he was going to drop dead before Jimmy had time to cash in and that would have been a respectable if predictable heart string to tug on. This was unnecessary sudden character movement. That shit where the person you've just invested a bunch of time and emotional capital in turns out to be somebody completely different is the stuff of lazy network procedure dramas. On Breaking Bad people were who they were. We knew who the heroes and villains were and the people on the show didn't. That was the show. This is off by a mile. When and if I go back someday to re-watch, I'm going to have to fast forward through all the Chuck/Jimmy stuff, which is half the season.
The Mike stuff though? Fuck and yes.
They hinted at it when Chuck wasn't very excited about Jimmy passing the bar. I figured Howard was going to steal the case from Jimmy, and Chuck would side with him against his brother. Having Chuck be bad isn't that far out of left field.
I guess you're right. That helps somewhat.
And it stands to reason that he felt sorry for Jimmy and tried to get the case over to HHM so Jimmy could see some profits without getting heavily involved. And it stands to reason that he knows what Jimmy is capable of and would rather spare the world from the menace that will be Saul Goodman. The speech about "YOU'RE NOT A REAL LAWYER!!" was just a little bit flat for me.
But the Mike stuff though? Oh, dear.
Quote from: InternetApex on March 31, 2015, 03:57:55 PM
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Quote from: InternetApex on March 31, 2015, 09:53:12 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on March 31, 2015, 07:17:49 AM
I probably should have seen that coming last episode, but Patrick Fabian does such a good job playing a smug douche, I figured it had to be him.
Did not care for that plot twist. After they spent a couple of episodes making us feel sorry for Jimmy and Chuck, they turn Chuck into a villain. I was sure he was going to drop dead before Jimmy had time to cash in and that would have been a respectable if predictable heart string to tug on. This was unnecessary sudden character movement. That shit where the person you've just invested a bunch of time and emotional capital in turns out to be somebody completely different is the stuff of lazy network procedure dramas. On Breaking Bad people were who they were. We knew who the heroes and villains were and the people on the show didn't. That was the show. This is off by a mile. When and if I go back someday to re-watch, I'm going to have to fast forward through all the Chuck/Jimmy stuff, which is half the season.
The Mike stuff though? Fuck and yes.
They hinted at it when Chuck wasn't very excited about Jimmy passing the bar. I figured Howard was going to steal the case from Jimmy, and Chuck would side with him against his brother. Having Chuck be bad isn't that far out of left field.
I guess you're right. That helps somewhat.
And it stands to reason that he felt sorry for Jimmy and tried to get the case over to HHM so Jimmy could see some profits without getting heavily involved. And it stands to reason that he knows what Jimmy is capable of and would rather spare the world from the menace that will be Saul Goodman. The speech about "YOU'RE NOT A REAL LAWYER!!" was just a little bit flat for me.
But the Mike stuff though? Oh, dear.
The Mike stuff has been great. It's like two prequels in one.
Quote from: InternetApex on March 31, 2015, 03:57:55 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 31, 2015, 01:42:39 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on March 31, 2015, 09:53:12 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on March 31, 2015, 07:17:49 AM
I probably should have seen that coming last episode, but Patrick Fabian does such a good job playing a smug douche, I figured it had to be him.
Did not care for that plot twist. After they spent a couple of episodes making us feel sorry for Jimmy and Chuck, they turn Chuck into a villain. I was sure he was going to drop dead before Jimmy had time to cash in and that would have been a respectable if predictable heart string to tug on. This was unnecessary sudden character movement. That shit where the person you've just invested a bunch of time and emotional capital in turns out to be somebody completely different is the stuff of lazy network procedure dramas. On Breaking Bad people were who they were. We knew who the heroes and villains were and the people on the show didn't. That was the show. This is off by a mile. When and if I go back someday to re-watch, I'm going to have to fast forward through all the Chuck/Jimmy stuff, which is half the season.
The Mike stuff though? Fuck and yes.
They hinted at it when Chuck wasn't very excited about Jimmy passing the bar. I figured Howard was going to steal the case from Jimmy, and Chuck would side with him against his brother. Having Chuck be bad isn't that far out of left field.
I guess you're right. That helps somewhat.
And it stands to reason that he felt sorry for Jimmy and tried to get the case over to HHM so Jimmy could see some profits without getting heavily involved. And it stands to reason that he knows what Jimmy is capable of and would rather spare the world from the menace that will be Saul Goodman. The speech about "YOU'RE NOT A REAL LAWYER!!" was just a little bit flat for me.
But the Mike stuff though? Oh, dear.
"Agoraphobia (ag-uh-ruh-FOE-be-uh) is a type of anxiety disorder in which you fear and often avoid places or situations that might cause you to panic and make you feel trapped, helpless or embarrassed.
With agoraphobia, you fear an actual or anticipated situation, such as using public transportation, being in open or enclosed spaces, standing in line or being in a crowd. The anxiety is caused by fear that there's no easy way to escape or seek help if intense anxiety develops. Most people who have agoraphobia develop it after having one or more panic attacks, causing them to fear another attack and avoid the place where it occurred.
People with agoraphobia often have a hard time feeling safe in any public place, especially where crowds gather."
I respectfully disagree with the characterization of Chuck as a bad person. I think that they have made him into a very sympathetic character. His is obviously emotionally disturbed. One of the certainties in his life, his superiority over his brother, is evaporating and he can't handle it. I don't blame Jimmy for finally severing the relationship, he is not Mother Teresa or Ghandi, and doesn't have to suffer abuse. But a third person can see that Chuck can't help himself.
Side note. As a mostly plaintiff's lawyer for the last 55 years I will attest to the validity of the script when it comes to Jimmy's class action. I am constantly impressed by this aspect of this show. I refuse, on principle, to watch Lawyer's TV shows because the requisites of a one hour TV drama make a hash out of the depiction of the practice of law. That is not true about this show.
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I probably should have seen that coming last episode, but Patrick Fabian does such a good job playing a smug douche, I figured it had to be him.
Did not care for that plot twist. After they spent a couple of episodes making us feel sorry for Jimmy and Chuck, they turn Chuck into a villain. I was sure he was going to drop dead before Jimmy had time to cash in and that would have been a respectable if predictable heart string to tug on. This was unnecessary sudden character movement. That shit where the person you've just invested a bunch of time and emotional capital in turns out to be somebody completely different is the stuff of lazy network procedure dramas. On Breaking Bad people were who they were. We knew who the heroes and villains were and the people on the show didn't. That was the show. This is off by a mile. When and if I go back someday to re-watch, I'm going to have to fast forward through all the Chuck/Jimmy stuff, which is half the season.
The Mike stuff though? Fuck and yes.
They hinted at it when Chuck wasn't very excited about Jimmy passing the bar. I figured Howard was going to steal the case from Jimmy, and Chuck would side with him against his brother. Having Chuck be bad isn't that far out of left field.
I guess you're right. That helps somewhat.
And it stands to reason that he felt sorry for Jimmy and tried to get the case over to HHM so Jimmy could see some profits without getting heavily involved. And it stands to reason that he knows what Jimmy is capable of and would rather spare the world from the menace that will be Saul Goodman. The speech about "YOU'RE NOT A REAL LAWYER!!" was just a little bit flat for me.
But the Mike stuff though? Oh, dear.
"Agoraphobia (ag-uh-ruh-FOE-be-uh) is a type of anxiety disorder in which you fear and often avoid places or situations that might cause you to panic and make you feel trapped, helpless or embarrassed.
With agoraphobia, you fear an actual or anticipated situation, such as using public transportation, being in open or enclosed spaces, standing in line or being in a crowd. The anxiety is caused by fear that there's no easy way to escape or seek help if intense anxiety develops. Most people who have agoraphobia develop it after having one or more panic attacks, causing them to fear another attack and avoid the place where it occurred.
People with agoraphobia often have a hard time feeling safe in any public place, especially where crowds gather."
I respectfully disagree with the characterization of Chuck as a bad person. I think that they have made him into a very sympathetic character. His is obviously emotionally disturbed. One of the certainties in his life, his superiority over his brother, is evaporating and he can't handle it. I don't blame Jimmy for finally severing the relationship, he is not Mother Teresa or Ghandi, and doesn't have to suffer abuse. But a third person can see that Chuck can't help himself.
Side note. As a mostly plaintiff's lawyer for the last 55 years I will attest to the validity of the script when it comes to Jimmy's class action. I am constantly impressed by this aspect of this show. I refuse, on principle, to watch Lawyer's TV shows because the requisites of a one hour TV drama make a hash out of the depiction of the practice of law. That is not true about this show.
I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter, 'A Lawyer Watches Better Call Saul.' Seriously.
I can't freaking wait for this. Expectations are almost too high, but if there's one person I trust with them it's Vince Gilligan.
Good start to season two. Welcome back, Jimmy.
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Good start to season two. Welcome back, Jimmy.
And welcome back "KEN WINS." That was great.
Can I watch this without having watched Breaking Bad?
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Can I watch this without having watched Breaking Bad?
Yes. You'll only miss the callbacks and in-jokes. This show appears to hold its own but it's hard to tell for sure since I've watched BrBa all the way through at least five times.
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Can I watch this without having watched Breaking Bad?
Yes. You'll only miss the callbacks and in-jokes. This show appears to hold its own but it's hard to tell for sure since I've watched BrBa all the way through at least five times.
I did not watch Breaking Bad. The answer is yes.
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Can I watch this without having watched Breaking Bad?
Yes. You'll only miss the callbacks and in-jokes. This show appears to hold its own but it's hard to tell for sure since I've watched BrBa all the way through at least five times.
I did not watch Breaking Bad. The answer is yes.
I tried to watch Breaking Bad but I couldn't stay interested. This show, however, stands up well on its own. It is a spot-on depiction of the way that many individual practitioners have to get along. That is not a prescription for a general audience to remain interested. But as a prequel to Breaking Bad it is fascinating. So far it has nothing to do with the illegal drug trade, but how a shyster (I hate that word but it fits in this context) makes a living.
Jimmy has to get fired next week, right? I can't imagine he can talk his way out of it after what he did.
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Jimmy has to get fired next week, right? I can't imagine he can talk his way out of it after what he did.
Yeah, I can't figure a way he gets out of this smelling like a rose. Of course, even if he survives, that only postpones the inevitable.
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Jimmy has to get fired next week, right? I can't imagine he can talk his way out of it after what he did.
It's Slippin' Jimmy we're talking about. If anyone can survive this it's him.
Also that was the angriest at being confronted with the credits instead of more show that I've been in quite some time.
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Jimmy has to get fired next week, right? I can't imagine he can talk his way out of it after what he did.
It's Slippin' Jimmy we're talking about. If anyone can survive this it's him.
Also that was the angriest at being confronted with the credits instead of more show that I've been in quite some time.
I actually sat there for a second blankly, thinking: "no more show? Boooooooo."
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Jimmy has to get fired next week, right? I can't imagine he can talk his way out of it after what he did.
It's Slippin' Jimmy we're talking about. If anyone can survive this it's him.
Also that was the angriest at being confronted with the credits instead of more show that I've been in quite some time.
I actually sat there for a second blankly, thinking: "no more show? Boooooooo."
I think that's the first time I've felt that since Justified went off.
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Good start to season two. Welcome back, Jimmy.
And welcome back "KEN WINS." That was great.
Welcome back, Krazy-8.
And that scene with Mike and Lawson was the balls.
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Good start to season two. Welcome back, Jimmy.
And welcome back "KEN WINS." That was great.
Welcome back, Krazy-8.
And that scene with Mike and Lawson was the balls.
Lawson?
For some reason i can't remember Krazy 8 from Breaking Bad and I feel like I'm starting to miss so many sly allusions to BB that I need to go back and binge-watch it again.
Nearly every scene with Mike is the balls. He's as much the star of this prequel/spinoff as Jimmy is.
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Good start to season two. Welcome back, Jimmy.
And welcome back "KEN WINS." That was great.
Welcome back, Krazy-8.
And that scene with Mike and Lawson was the balls.
Lawson?
For some reason i can't remember Krazy 8 from Breaking Bad and I feel like I'm starting to miss so many sly allusions to BB that I need to go back and binge-watch it again.
Nearly every scene with Mike is the balls. He's as much the star of this prequel/spinoff as Jimmy is.
Krazy-8 was the guy Walt locked in his basement. And he was the guy giving money to Tuco in this episode.
The gun salesman was the same guy Walt bought his gun from.
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Good start to season two. Welcome back, Jimmy.
And welcome back "KEN WINS." That was great.
Welcome back, Krazy-8.
And that scene with Mike and Lawson was the balls.
Lawson?
For some reason i can't remember Krazy 8 from Breaking Bad and I feel like I'm starting to miss so many sly allusions to BB that I need to go back and binge-watch it again.
Nearly every scene with Mike is the balls. He's as much the star of this prequel/spinoff as Jimmy is.
Krazy-8 was the guy Walt locked in his basement. And he was the guy giving money to Tuco in this episode.
The gun salesman was the same guy Walt bought his gun from.
Well I know he was the guy giving money to Tuco because the episode was just on 40 hours ago and I'm old and shit but I'm not that old that I can't remember something from 40 hours ago.
I just don't remember him from BB--though I do recall the basement scene now that you mention it...I just don't remember the face--nor do I remember the guy who sold Walt his guns.
Someone on the interwebs wondered where this show ranked as far as spinoffs are concerned. Somebody threw out Frasier-from-Cheers....there are a few (though not terribly many) others I'm sure, but this would be toward the top, in spite of how high a bar Breaking Bad set.
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Good start to season two. Welcome back, Jimmy.
And welcome back "KEN WINS." That was great.
Welcome back, Krazy-8.
And that scene with Mike and Lawson was the balls.
Lawson?
For some reason i can't remember Krazy 8 from Breaking Bad and I feel like I'm starting to miss so many sly allusions to BB that I need to go back and binge-watch it again.
Nearly every scene with Mike is the balls. He's as much the star of this prequel/spinoff as Jimmy is.
Krazy-8 was the guy Walt locked in his basement. And he was the guy giving money to Tuco in this episode.
The gun salesman was the same guy Walt bought his gun from.
Well I know he was the guy giving money to Tuco because the episode was just on 40 hours ago and I'm old and shit but I'm not that old that I can't remember something from 40 hours ago.
I just don't remember him from BB--though I do recall the basement scene now that you mention it...I just don't remember the face--nor do I remember the guy who sold Walt his guns.
Someone on the interwebs wondered where this show ranked as far as spinoffs are concerned. Somebody threw out Frasier-from-Cheers....there are a few (though not terribly many) others I'm sure, but this would be toward the top, in spite of how high a bar Breaking Bad set.
Krazy-8 (real name Domingo) is the low-level distributor/DEA informant who Walt and Jesse bolted to a beam in Jesse's basement with a bike lock. Walt eventually chokes him to death with it when Krazy-8 tries to stick him with a plate shard. And he's the reason Walt SPOILER!!!!! cuts the crust off every sandwich for the rest of his life.
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Good start to season two. Welcome back, Jimmy.
And welcome back "KEN WINS." That was great.
Welcome back, Krazy-8.
And that scene with Mike and Lawson was the balls.
Lawson?
For some reason i can't remember Krazy 8 from Breaking Bad and I feel like I'm starting to miss so many sly allusions to BB that I need to go back and binge-watch it again.
Nearly every scene with Mike is the balls. He's as much the star of this prequel/spinoff as Jimmy is.
Krazy-8 was the guy Walt locked in his basement. And he was the guy giving money to Tuco in this episode.
The gun salesman was the same guy Walt bought his gun from.
Well I know he was the guy giving money to Tuco because the episode was just on 40 hours ago and I'm old and shit but I'm not that old that I can't remember something from 40 hours ago.
I just don't remember him from BB--though I do recall the basement scene now that you mention it...I just don't remember the face--nor do I remember the guy who sold Walt his guns.
Someone on the interwebs wondered where this show ranked as far as spinoffs are concerned. Somebody threw out Frasier-from-Cheers....there are a few (though not terribly many) others I'm sure, but this would be toward the top, in spite of how high a bar Breaking Bad set.
Krazy-8 (real name Domingo) is the low-level distributor/DEA informant who Walt and Jesse bolted to a beam in Jesse's basement with a bike lock. Walt eventually chokes him to death with it when Krazy-8 tries to stick him with a plate shard. And he's the reason Walt SPOILER!!!!! cuts the crust off every sandwich for the rest of his life.
The law firm is appalled at Jimmy's violation of the ethical standards of the firm by running a TV commercial, but they stop short of turning down the clients that the advertising brought in.
"That all you got?"
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Good start to season two. Welcome back, Jimmy.
And welcome back "KEN WINS." That was great.
Welcome back, Krazy-8.
And that scene with Mike and Lawson was the balls.
Lawson?
For some reason i can't remember Krazy 8 from Breaking Bad and I feel like I'm starting to miss so many sly allusions to BB that I need to go back and binge-watch it again.
Nearly every scene with Mike is the balls. He's as much the star of this prequel/spinoff as Jimmy is.
Krazy-8 was the guy Walt locked in his basement. And he was the guy giving money to Tuco in this episode.
The gun salesman was the same guy Walt bought his gun from.
The actor playing the gun salesman is Jim Beaver. He sold Walt his revolver and later the M60 that Walt rigged up in the car trunk.
He was Whitney Ellsworth in Deadwood (one of my favorite characters) and Sheriff Shelby Parlow on Justified.
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Good start to season two. Welcome back, Jimmy.
And welcome back "KEN WINS." That was great.
Welcome back, Krazy-8.
And that scene with Mike and Lawson was the balls.
Lawson?
For some reason i can't remember Krazy 8 from Breaking Bad and I feel like I'm starting to miss so many sly allusions to BB that I need to go back and binge-watch it again.
Nearly every scene with Mike is the balls. He's as much the star of this prequel/spinoff as Jimmy is.
Krazy-8 was the guy Walt locked in his basement. And he was the guy giving money to Tuco in this episode.
The gun salesman was the same guy Walt bought his gun from.
The actor playing the gun salesman is Jim Beaver. He sold Walt his revolver and later the M60 that Walt rigged up in the car trunk.
He was Whitney Ellsworth in Deadwood (one of my favorite characters) and Sheriff Shelby Parlow on Justified.
You betchum, Red Ryder. (racist, or just obscure, or both?)
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Good start to season two. Welcome back, Jimmy.
And welcome back "KEN WINS." That was great.
Welcome back, Krazy-8.
And that scene with Mike and Lawson was the balls.
Lawson?
For some reason i can't remember Krazy 8 from Breaking Bad and I feel like I'm starting to miss so many sly allusions to BB that I need to go back and binge-watch it again.
Nearly every scene with Mike is the balls. He's as much the star of this prequel/spinoff as Jimmy is.
Krazy-8 was the guy Walt locked in his basement. And he was the guy giving money to Tuco in this episode.
The gun salesman was the same guy Walt bought his gun from.
The actor playing the gun salesman is Jim Beaver. He sold Walt his revolver and later the M60 that Walt rigged up in the car trunk.
He was Whitney Ellsworth in Deadwood (one of my favorite characters) and Sheriff Shelby Parlow on Justified.
You betchum, Red Ryder. (racist, or just obscure, or both?)
Or gynecological.
This is my favorite thread on Desipio. Please continue jogging my memory on returning characters. I remember several key events from Breaking Bad, but I only watched each episode once so faces and names tend to elude me. I could only stand one viewing of that show. It's extremely stressful in that every decision leads the main characters down a path of even more unspeakable horror. Knowing now what that horror is, I can't bring myself to re-watch. JennPex has never seen it. And she LOVES crime stories and cop shows and the like, so if she can handle the violence (she watched Sons of Anarchy) then BB would be right up her alley. She says we should binge watch it together and I just... I don't know.
Also, Stew's musings on the legal aspects of the show are almost as entertaining as the show itself. Please keep it all coming.
I like Mike and Saul and Kim and everybody on this show except for Mike's daughter-in-law. She's the pits.
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This is my favorite thread on Desipio. Please continue jogging my memory on returning characters. I remember several key events from Breaking Bad, but I only watched each episode once so faces and names tend to elude me. I could only stand one viewing of that show. It's extremely stressful in that every decision leads the main characters down a path of even more unspeakable horror. Knowing now what that horror is, I can't bring myself to re-watch. JennPex has never seen it. And she LOVES crime stories and cop shows and the like, so if she can handle the violence (she watched Sons of Anarchy) then BB would be right up her alley. She says we should binge watch it together and I just... I don't know.
Also, Stew's musings on the legal aspects of the show are almost as entertaining as the show itself. Please keep it all coming.
I like Mike and Saul and Kim and everybody on this show except for Mike's daughter-in-law. She's the pits.
This week I actually began re-binge-watching Breaking Bad and you have a point--at least in the early going it's a bit hard to swallow. A couple months ago I binge-watched 5 seasons of The Walking Dead in about 4 weeks and I think I damaged my psyche in doing so; I'm hoping that doesn't happen again.
Having said that, there are some delicious universe parallels. Of course
now I'm very familiar with Krazy 8 (I'm about 4 1/2 eps. in and so Walt's already killed him) but I got to see that the obnoxious asshat trader that Jimmy and Kim pulled one over on for an afternoon of free expensive tequila in the 2nd episode of BCS (1st episode? 3rd?) is the same guy whose car Walt's destroys in the gas station in the 4th (I think) episode of BB (license plate = "Ken Wins").
This is why I'm re-watching BB as those moments make for a pretty fine payoff.
Krazy-8 was wearing a shirt from the furniture store his dad owned. Before Walt kills him in BB they talk about his dad's furniture store.
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Krazy-8 was wearing a shirt from the furniture store his dad owned. Before Walt kills him in BB they talk about his dad's furniture store.
I hope the shirt had an extended warranty.
Don't let shopping
Strain your brain-o
Just sing this short refrain-o
Our furniture is bueno
Tampico is the name-o
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Krazy-8 was wearing a shirt from the furniture store his dad owned. Before Walt kills him in BB they talk about his dad's furniture store.
I hope the shirt had an extended warranty.
I bet he popped for the extra Scotchgard treatment.
What about Tuco? That psychopath beats up Mike with a smile on his face knowing that the police are watching him from 10 feet away. The actor who plays Tuco plays a cop on "Major Crimes". His character on that show is also pathologic and prone to excessive force and violence. Typecast?
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What about Tuco? That psychopath beats up Mike with a smile on his face knowing that the police are watching him from 10 feet away. The actor who plays Tuco plays a cop on "Major Crimes". His character on that show is also pathologic and prone to excessive force and violence. Typecast?
Maybe Raymond Cruz is just a psycho?
Damn this show is good. Kim is a great character, too.
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Damn this show is good. Kim is a great character, too.
And just when I was beginning to wonder if Chuck ever had a ladyfriend or if he was gay...or asexual.
DPD.
So here's something interesting. Y'All remember Skinny Pete, the skinny meth-head that was friends with Jesse early on in BB? Well I'm early in Season 2 and when Jesse and Walter are trying to get some high-volume stuff in front of Tuco without getting their asses blown off, Jesse informs Walter that it turns out his buddy Skinny Pete bunked with Tuco while serving some time. So Skinny Pete was the "in" for them to meet Tuco (I mean, the original meeting didn't turn out too well for Jesse of course but still).
In re-watching that episode last weekend, I wondered if the sentence Tuco was serving when he met Skinny Pete was from his altercation with Mike in BCS...but then of course the end of last night introduces the guy who eventually turns out to be the scary-as-fuck stroke-induced "Tio" (I know it turns out he has a name and was in fact a big player in the cartel biz but I don't remember his name) who looks to get Mike to drop the charges so maybe Tuco doesn't do much time after all.
Which, speaking of that last scene, offering Mike 5 grand and also take the fall on the possession charge is awfully, awfully insulting, isn't it?
And just to wrap up the loose end from above, Krazy 8 knows Tuco in BCS, and eventually comes to know Jesse (Krazy 8 was Hank's "snitch" who led to the first bust in BB when Walter went along on a "ride-along" and Jesse escaped through the window)...anyway Jesse knows Skinny Pete who knows Tuco from jail. Small world.
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DPD.
So here's something interesting. Y'All remember Skinny Pete, the skinny meth-head that was friends with Jesse early on in BB? Well I'm early in Season 2 and when Jesse and Walter are trying to get some high-volume stuff in front of Tuco without getting their asses blown off, Jesse informs Walter that it turns out his buddy Skinny Pete bunked with Tuco while serving some time. So Skinny Pete was the "in" for them to meet Tuco (I mean, the original meeting didn't turn out too well for Jesse of course but still).
In re-watching that episode last weekend, I wondered if the sentence Tuco was serving when he met Skinny Pete was from his altercation with Mike in BCS...but then of course the end of last night introduces the guy who eventually turns out to be the scary-as-fuck stroke-induced "Tio" (I know it turns out he has a name and was in fact a big player in the cartel biz but I don't remember his name) who looks to get Mike to drop the charges so maybe Tuco doesn't do much time after all.
Which, speaking of that last scene, offering Mike 5 grand and also take the fall on the possession charge is awfully, awfully insulting, isn't it?
And just to wrap up the loose end from above, Krazy 8 knows Tuco in BCS, and eventually comes to know Jesse (Krazy 8 was Hank's "snitch" who led to the first bust in BB when Walter went along on a "ride-along" and Jesse escaped through the window)...anyway Jesse knows Skinny Pete who knows Tuco from jail. Small world.
Tuco is still going inside for the battery charge at a minimum. That's where he'll meet Skinny Pete.
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DPD.
So here's something interesting. Y'All remember Skinny Pete, the skinny meth-head that was friends with Jesse early on in BB? Well I'm early in Season 2 and when Jesse and Walter are trying to get some high-volume stuff in front of Tuco without getting their asses blown off, Jesse informs Walter that it turns out his buddy Skinny Pete bunked with Tuco while serving some time. So Skinny Pete was the "in" for them to meet Tuco (I mean, the original meeting didn't turn out too well for Jesse of course but still).
In re-watching that episode last weekend, I wondered if the sentence Tuco was serving when he met Skinny Pete was from his altercation with Mike in BCS...but then of course the end of last night introduces the guy who eventually turns out to be the scary-as-fuck stroke-induced "Tio" (I know it turns out he has a name and was in fact a big player in the cartel biz but I don't remember his name) who looks to get Mike to drop the charges so maybe Tuco doesn't do much time after all.
Which, speaking of that last scene, offering Mike 5 grand and also take the fall on the possession charge is awfully, awfully insulting, isn't it?
And just to wrap up the loose end from above, Krazy 8 knows Tuco in BCS, and eventually comes to know Jesse (Krazy 8 was Hank's "snitch" who led to the first bust in BB when Walter went along on a "ride-along" and Jesse escaped through the window)...anyway Jesse knows Skinny Pete who knows Tuco from jail. Small world.
Tuco is still going inside for the battery charge at a minimum. That's where he'll meet Skinny Pete.
Nah. Plea bargain to a misdemeanor and 30 days in County. Out in 15 for good behavior.
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DPD.
So here's something interesting. Y'All remember Skinny Pete, the skinny meth-head that was friends with Jesse early on in BB? Well I'm early in Season 2 and when Jesse and Walter are trying to get some high-volume stuff in front of Tuco without getting their asses blown off, Jesse informs Walter that it turns out his buddy Skinny Pete bunked with Tuco while serving some time. So Skinny Pete was the "in" for them to meet Tuco (I mean, the original meeting didn't turn out too well for Jesse of course but still).
In re-watching that episode last weekend, I wondered if the sentence Tuco was serving when he met Skinny Pete was from his altercation with Mike in BCS...but then of course the end of last night introduces the guy who eventually turns out to be the scary-as-fuck stroke-induced "Tio" (I know it turns out he has a name and was in fact a big player in the cartel biz but I don't remember his name) who looks to get Mike to drop the charges so maybe Tuco doesn't do much time after all.
Which, speaking of that last scene, offering Mike 5 grand and also take the fall on the possession charge is awfully, awfully insulting, isn't it?
And just to wrap up the loose end from above, Krazy 8 knows Tuco in BCS, and eventually comes to know Jesse (Krazy 8 was Hank's "snitch" who led to the first bust in BB when Walter went along on a "ride-along" and Jesse escaped through the window)...anyway Jesse knows Skinny Pete who knows Tuco from jail. Small world.
Hector Salamanca. Also remember that last week, it was said that Mike's plan would draw Salamancas like flies. One week later, here's Tio.
DPD. Also because of last week, Mike understands the $5,000 offer is really not an offer at all. It's a threat. And Tio sure knew a lot about Mike, didn't he? That's why Mike is furious when Tio leaves.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on March 15, 2016, 04:05:22 PM
DPD. Also because of last week, Mike understands the $5,000 offer is really not an offer at all. It's a threat. And Tio sure knew a lot about Mike, didn't he? That's why Mike is furious when Tio leaves.
Yeah....now I'm just wondering how Mike goes from here...to where he is when we pick up his story in BB.
Hey--so are there any chances of a Walter White walk-on? How about Hank? The possibilities are endless.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on March 15, 2016, 04:05:22 PM
DPD. Also because of last week, Mike understands the $5,000 offer is really not an offer at all. It's a threat. And Tio sure knew a lot about Mike, didn't he? That's why Mike is furious when Tio leaves.
Agreed. It was a serious threat.
Mike didn't want it to get this far.
Quote from: PANK! on March 15, 2016, 04:16:36 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on March 15, 2016, 04:05:22 PM
DPD. Also because of last week, Mike understands the $5,000 offer is really not an offer at all. It's a threat. And Tio sure knew a lot about Mike, didn't he? That's why Mike is furious when Tio leaves.
Yeah....now I'm just wondering how Mike goes from here...to where he is when we pick up his story in BB.
Hey--so are there any chances of a Walter White walk-on? How about Hank? The possibilities are endless.
Gilligan has said yes, they can see BrBa characters appearing on the show, including Walt, but they'll only do it when it makes sense for the story. They won't use it to prop up BCS. Having seen one and a half seasons of it now, I get why.
Edited to add link: http://mashable.com/2016/03/12/better-call-saul-paleyfest/#bkPSMOjleiqW
Sorry to keep running along with the parallel universes of BCS and BB but I can't help myself. I'm halfway through season 2 on my re-watch of BB, and just watched Episode 8, which Netflix tells me is officially entitled...
"Better Call Saul".
(That there is both a TV show and a related episode from a different show that goes by the same name reminds of the rare number of bands-- like Porno for Pyros and Bad Company--who not only have an album of the same name but also a song of the same name...and now I'm dreaming of a BCS movie)
Weird for me to see Saul introduced while I'm in the midst of watching Jimmy's earlier exploits in BCS, and reminded me how much of a caricature Saul really was in the beginning of BB, but the character actually feels surprisingly continuous in spite of the fact that that his backstory hadn't obviously been conceived at that time. In his very first scene with Walt, the latter is disguised as "Mr. Mayhew" purporting to be Badger's (Brandon's) rich uncle, Badger who'd just been popped. Right away, Saul says "Mayhew? Is that Irish? English?". Walt replies, "Irish" and Saul replies with a pretty good ethnic insult but then quickly says, something to the effect of "I kid, My original name's McGill etc"
And for posterity, the first real "appearance" of Saul in BB is a few scenes earlier, thanks to the aforementioned Badger.
(https://files.slack.com/files-tmb/T0LDWLCMV-F0TN6K7P1-ab61c1e921/slack_for_ios_upload_480.jpg)
Quote from: PANK! on March 18, 2016, 11:26:02 AM
Sorry to keep running along with the parallel universes of BCS and BB but I can't help myself. I'm halfway through season 2 on my re-watch of BB, and just watched Episode 8, which Netflix tells me is officially entitled...
"Better Call Saul".
(That there is both a TV show and a related episode from a different show that goes by the same name reminds of the rare number of bands-- like Porno for Pyros and Bad Company--who not only have an album of the same name but also a song of the same name...and now I'm dreaming of a BCS movie)
Weird for me to see Saul introduced while I'm in the midst of watching Jimmy's earlier exploits in BCS, and reminded me how much of a caricature Saul really was in the beginning of BB, but the character actually feels surprisingly continuous in spite of the fact that that his backstory hadn't obviously been conceived at that time. In his very first scene with Walt, the latter is disguised as "Mr. Mayhew" purporting to be Badger's (Brandon's) rich uncle, Badger who'd just been popped. Right away, Saul says "Mayhew? Is that Irish? English?". Walt replies, "Irish" and Saul replies with a pretty good ethnic insult but then quickly says, something to the effect of "I kid, My original name's McGill etc"
And for posterity, the first real "appearance" of Saul in BB is a few scenes earlier, thanks to the aforementioned Badger.
(https://files.slack.com/files-tmb/T0LDWLCMV-F0TN6K7P1-ab61c1e921/slack_for_ios_upload_480.jpg)
"Didja say anything stupid? And by 'anything stupid' I mean anything at all!"
My heart's breaking for Slipping Kimmy. Jimmy may be charismatic, but I don't know see how she makes that move, especially knowing what she already knows about him.
I'm seriously torn between watching tonight's episode instead of the first hour of the Cubs game and no I don't have a DVR.
Quote from: PANK! on April 04, 2016, 08:16:46 AM
I'm seriously torn between watching tonight's episode instead of the first hour of the Cubs game and no I don't have a DVR.
Do you have a VCR?
Quote from: Tony on April 04, 2016, 02:17:36 PM
Quote from: PANK! on April 04, 2016, 08:16:46 AM
I'm seriously torn between watching tonight's episode instead of the first hour of the Cubs game and no I don't have a DVR.
Do you have a VCR?
Is today the day when we reveal the meaning of that mysterious On Demand button on Huey's remote?
Quote from: Tony on April 04, 2016, 02:17:36 PM
Quote from: PANK! on April 04, 2016, 08:16:46 AM
I'm seriously torn between watching tonight's episode instead of the first hour of the Cubs game and no I don't have a DVR.
Do you have a VCR?
My plan was to watch BCS but have the game going on the iPad
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Quote from: Tony on April 04, 2016, 02:17:36 PM
Quote from: PANK! on April 04, 2016, 08:16:46 AM
I'm seriously torn between watching tonight's episode instead of the first hour of the Cubs game and no I don't have a DVR.
Do you have a VCR?
My plan was to watch BCS but have the game going on the iPad
My plan is to watch BCS tomorrow night while I'm waiting FIVE-EVER for the fucking Cubes game to start.
Lots of pieces started to move into place this week. Betting next week will be a big one.
Is my namesake dead or alive? Is name association what drives Jimmy to go "s'all good, man!"?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 12, 2016, 11:31:43 AM
Is my namesake dead or alive? Is name association what drives Jimmy to go "s'all good, man!"?
I think he's dead and Jimmy cries louder than anybody at the funeral. Kim will see that and hopefully get as far away from him as possible. Sticking around would be as bad for her as it was for Chuck.
So who saw this? BCS Season 2 Episode names:
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Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 15, 2016, 09:17:30 AM
So who saw this? BCS Season 2 Episode names:
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Cobbler
Amarillo
Gloves Off
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Bali Ha'i
Inflatable
Fifi
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Did you figure this out on your own?
DPD.
Just what in the hell is Mike doing and where the hell is this headed? I'm wondering if Hector's subsequent incapacitation came at the hands of Mike
Also, I just finished re-watching Season 3 of Breaking Bad and stumbled across this gem the first time Saul Goodman met Skyler White to discuss laundering and he was trying to tell her that any story can be sold if told the right way.
"Hey-I once convinced someone I was Kevin Costner".
That, of course, actually happened during Season 1 of BCS. These fucking writers really mined BB in order to maintain continuity.
To date, I've only spotted two flaws, which is pretty good when you do a series in the order that Gilligan and Co. are doing. The first flaw is that Mike's granddaughter apparently is stuck in the same age forever. If anything, she almost seems older in BCS than she does in BB. The other flaw I spotted was when Saul and Walter were discussing money laundering and Saul said something to the effect of "God, I miss the 1980's"--the implication being that money laundering was easier then. However, in watching BCS, it doesn't seem Jimmy's legal career stretches back that far. A (very) minor quibble to be sure. I mean, I can't imagine how difficult it is to stick to certain details when doing a prequel, but these guys are pretty on top of it. You'll notice the phones are all 1990's flip phones, there are references to VCR's and such etc. Just outstanding attention to detail.
Also, I'm wondering if, when BCS draws to a close, whether Gilligan will try a third attempt; this time set the stage for after Breaking Bad--which has already been hinted at with the bumper scenes which have preceded each season's premier episode. I have no idea how one could make an interesting show about a Cinnabon manager--especially after reaching the thrilling heights that the character reached in BB-- but people initially thought centering a show around Saul Goodman seemed strange and yet Gilligan has pulled it off expertly so I wouldn't put it past him.
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So who saw this? BCS Season 2 Episode names:
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Cobbler
Amarillo
Gloves Off
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Fifi
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FRINGS BACK
Did you figure this out on your own?
It was a Twitterer who posted it.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 15, 2016, 10:29:33 AM
Quote from: PANK! on April 15, 2016, 10:12:49 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 15, 2016, 09:17:30 AM
So who saw this? BCS Season 2 Episode names:
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Cobbler
Amarillo
Gloves Off
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Bali Ha'i
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Did you figure this out on your own?
It was a Twitterer who posted it.
That's pretty good.
Quote from: PANK! on April 15, 2016, 10:33:46 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 15, 2016, 10:29:33 AM
Quote from: PANK! on April 15, 2016, 10:12:49 AM
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So who saw this? BCS Season 2 Episode names:
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Cobbler
Amarillo
Gloves Off
Rebecca
Bali Ha'i
Inflatable
Fifi
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Klick
Take the first letters:
SCAGRBIFNK
Rearrange:
FRINGS BACK
Did you figure this out on your own?
It was a Twitterer who posted it.
That's pretty good.
Parallel's BB's Season 2 title easter egg.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 15, 2016, 10:42:11 AM
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Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 15, 2016, 10:29:33 AM
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So who saw this? BCS Season 2 Episode names:
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Cobbler
Amarillo
Gloves Off
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Bali Ha'i
Inflatable
Fifi
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Klick
Take the first letters:
SCAGRBIFNK
Rearrange:
FRINGS BACK
Did you figure this out on your own?
It was a Twitterer who posted it.
That's pretty good.
Parallel's BB's Season 2 title easter egg.
I was wondering when they'd get to Gus. They've done a good job so far only bringing in the old Breaking Bad characters when it grows organically from the story rather than forcing it. No need to rush anything.
That being said, these two can't get here fast enough.
(http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Huell-and-Patrick-at-peace-in-Breaking-Bad.jpg)
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Amarillo
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Inflatable
Fifi
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Klick
Take the first letters:
SCAGRBIFNK
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FRINGS BACK
Did you figure this out on your own?
It was a Twitterer who posted it.
That's pretty good.
Parallel's BB's Season 2 title easter egg.
I was wondering when they'd get to Gus. They've done a good job so far only bringing in the old Breaking Bad characters when it grows organically from the story rather than forcing it. No need to rush anything.
That being said, these two can't get here fast enough.
(http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Huell-and-Patrick-at-peace-in-Breaking-Bad.jpg)
For my neighbors' sake, I hope they're not home when I exclaim with delight at the first introduction of those two on BCS.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 15, 2016, 09:17:30 AM
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It could also be BINGS FRACK, in which a modern day Jimmy at the Cinnabon discovers via the pepsi of search engines that an oil company is using unscrupulous tactics to extract oil from the local shale.
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Fifi
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Klick
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FRINGS BACK
It could also be BINGS FRACK, in which a modern day Jimmy at the Cinnabon discovers via the pepsi of search engines that an oil company is using unscrupulous tactics to extract oil from the local shale.
BIG F'N RACKS
Quote from: ChuckD on April 16, 2016, 01:02:29 PM
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Cobbler
Amarillo
Gloves Off
Rebecca
Bali Ha'i
Inflatable
Fifi
Nailed
Klick
Take the first letters:
SCAGRBIFNK
Rearrange:
FRINGS BACK
It could also be BINGS FRACK, in which a modern day Jimmy at the Cinnabon discovers via the pepsi of search engines that an oil company is using unscrupulous tactics to extract oil from the local shale.
BIG F'N RACKS
Only the very best ... with just the right amount of dirty.
It's gonna be a long wait.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 19, 2016, 11:12:10 AM
It's gonna be a long wait.
We can pass the time with an entire subreddit of FYCs. https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckchuck (https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckchuck)
Quote from: Tony on April 19, 2016, 11:31:05 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 19, 2016, 11:12:10 AM
It's gonna be a long wait.
We can pass the time with an entire subreddit of FYCs. https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckchuck (https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckchuck)
If only we had this during the Soriano years. What could've been.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 19, 2016, 11:12:10 AM
It's gonna be a long wait.
Those 20 or so seconds after Mike stopped the car from honking....tensest 20 or so seconds for me in 40+ years of TV watching.
Quote from: PANK! on April 19, 2016, 01:39:11 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 19, 2016, 11:12:10 AM
It's gonna be a long wait.
Those 20 or so seconds after Mike stopped the car from honking....tensest 20 or so seconds for me in 40+ years of TV watching.
Sorry. We know how Mike's story ends. Took out a lot of the tension. The tensest 40+ years of TV watching was Hank in the car getting a cell phone call. "You have one minute."
Still can't wait for this show's return. And that was true even before I learned this:
Gus Fring is back, bitches. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e_3WzxpdUc0)
Is this show good?
Quote from: PenFoe on January 18, 2017, 10:04:13 AM
Is this show good?
Yes. Crossing to great at times.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 18, 2017, 10:07:39 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 18, 2017, 10:04:13 AM
Is this show good?
Yes. Crossing to great at times.
It is a spin-off from a very good show (Breaking Bad), that in my opinion spun off in an entirely different direction. It is a pre-quell to "Breaking Bad" based on a character in the subsequent show. The drama is understated, and the plot is possibly boring at times, but the character development is thoroughly engrossing. "Breaking Bad" is about drug dealers. There is no suggestion about drugs in "Better Call Saul", he is a lawyer who becomes the drug dealers' lawyer in "Breaking Bad". Before that happens he has an office in the back room of an Asian nail salon. His practice is a hand to mouth general practice with some small-time criminal and DUI cases. It is not the kind of stuff that will keep you on the edge of your seat, but it is a true description of what a very large number of lawyers do. He has a brother who is a business practice power lawyer, and who has contempt for the career of his younger brother. There are side plots involving minor characters who (I guess) become "Saul's" clients. For me the charm is knowing where the story goes without knowing how it gets there.
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Is this show good?
It's very good.
It's so good. For a TV show, they really get the law and the profession right for the most part, too.
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Is this show good?
It's very good.
It's so good. For a TV show, they really get the law and the profession right for the most part, too.
You are absolutely right about the portrayal of the practice of law. However, it is a little out there to have his office as the back room of a Vietnamese nail parlor.
New promo (http://www.avclub.com/article/gus-fring-back-new-teaser-better-call-saul-season--251871). Everyone's favorite chicken restaurant proprietor is in it (suck it, Colonel Sanders and uncomfortably overmuscled chicken (http://bigwangs.com)). We're one month out.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on March 10, 2017, 01:53:12 PM
New promo (http://www.avclub.com/article/gus-fring-back-new-teaser-better-call-saul-season--251871). Everyone's favorite chicken restaurant proprietor is in it (suck it, Colonel Sanders and uncomfortably overmuscled chicken (http://bigwangs.com)). We're one month out.
Hmm. April 10. First night of Passover. Oh well. That is what the "record" function is for.
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New promo (http://www.avclub.com/article/gus-fring-back-new-teaser-better-call-saul-season--251871). Everyone's favorite chicken restaurant proprietor is in it (suck it, Colonel Sanders and uncomfortably overmuscled chicken (http://bigwangs.com)). We're one month out.
Hmm. April 10. First night of Passover. Oh well. That is what the "record" function is for.
Recording Passover means you get to keep rewinding glasses of wine.
This is very smart, Stew.
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Quote from: Saul Goodman on March 10, 2017, 01:53:12 PM
New promo (http://www.avclub.com/article/gus-fring-back-new-teaser-better-call-saul-season--251871). Everyone's favorite chicken restaurant proprietor is in it (suck it, Colonel Sanders and uncomfortably overmuscled chicken (http://bigwangs.com)). We're one month out.
Hmm. April 10. First night of Passover. Oh well. That is what the "record" function is for.
Recording Passover means you get to keep rewinding glasses of wine.
This is very smart, Stew.
While I support the wine aspect, I do not support the concept of making any Seder longer.
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Quote from: Saul Goodman on March 10, 2017, 01:53:12 PM
New promo (http://www.avclub.com/article/gus-fring-back-new-teaser-better-call-saul-season--251871). Everyone's favorite chicken restaurant proprietor is in it (suck it, Colonel Sanders and uncomfortably overmuscled chicken (http://bigwangs.com)). We're one month out.
Hmm. April 10. First night of Passover. Oh well. That is what the "record" function is for.
Recording Passover means you get to keep rewinding glasses of wine.
This is very smart, Stew.
While I support the wine aspect, I do not support the concept of making any Seder longer.
Also Cubs home opener.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on March 11, 2017, 12:23:24 PM
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Quote from: PenFoe on March 11, 2017, 09:41:42 AM
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Quote from: Saul Goodman on March 10, 2017, 01:53:12 PM
New promo (http://www.avclub.com/article/gus-fring-back-new-teaser-better-call-saul-season--251871). Everyone's favorite chicken restaurant proprietor is in it (suck it, Colonel Sanders and uncomfortably overmuscled chicken (http://bigwangs.com)). We're one month out.
Hmm. April 10. First night of Passover. Oh well. That is what the "record" function is for.
Recording Passover means you get to keep rewinding glasses of wine.
This is very smart, Stew.
While I support the wine aspect, I do not support the concept of making any Seder longer.
Also Cubs home opener.
So that night really won't be like any other night.
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Quote from: Saul Goodman on March 10, 2017, 01:53:12 PM
New promo (http://www.avclub.com/article/gus-fring-back-new-teaser-better-call-saul-season--251871). Everyone's favorite chicken restaurant proprietor is in it (suck it, Colonel Sanders and uncomfortably overmuscled chicken (http://bigwangs.com)). We're one month out.
Hmm. April 10. First night of Passover. Oh well. That is what the "record" function is for.
Recording Passover means you get to keep rewinding glasses of wine.
This is very smart, Stew.
While I support the wine aspect, I do not support the concept of making any Seder longer.
Also Cubs home opener.
So that night really won't be like any other night.
I believe the Cubs home opener was also First Seder in 1991.
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Quote from: PenFoe on March 11, 2017, 09:41:42 AM
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Quote from: Saul Goodman on March 10, 2017, 01:53:12 PM
New promo (http://www.avclub.com/article/gus-fring-back-new-teaser-better-call-saul-season--251871). Everyone's favorite chicken restaurant proprietor is in it (suck it, Colonel Sanders and uncomfortably overmuscled chicken (http://bigwangs.com)). We're one month out.
Hmm. April 10. First night of Passover. Oh well. That is what the "record" function is for.
Recording Passover means you get to keep rewinding glasses of wine.
This is very smart, Stew.
While I support the wine aspect, I do not support the concept of making any Seder longer.
Also Cubs home opener.
So that night really won't be like any other night.
I believe the Cubs home opener was also First Seder in 1991.
...So we have that to live up to.
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Quote from: Saul Goodman on March 10, 2017, 01:53:12 PM
New promo (http://www.avclub.com/article/gus-fring-back-new-teaser-better-call-saul-season--251871). Everyone's favorite chicken restaurant proprietor is in it (suck it, Colonel Sanders and uncomfortably overmuscled chicken (http://bigwangs.com)). We're one month out.
Hmm. April 10. First night of Passover. Oh well. That is what the "record" function is for.
Recording Passover means you get to keep rewinding glasses of wine.
This is very smart, Stew.
While I support the wine aspect, I do not support the concept of making any Seder longer.
Also Cubs home opener.
So that night really won't be like any other night.
I believe the Cubs home opener was also First Seder in 1991.
Oh yeah, I forgot they raised a WORLD SERIES CHAMPION BANNER OVER WRIGLEY FIELD for the first time ever then too.
Quote from: Bort on March 11, 2017, 11:09:56 AM
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Quote from: Saul Goodman on March 10, 2017, 01:53:12 PM
New promo (http://www.avclub.com/article/gus-fring-back-new-teaser-better-call-saul-season--251871). Everyone's favorite chicken restaurant proprietor is in it (suck it, Colonel Sanders and uncomfortably overmuscled chicken (http://bigwangs.com)). We're one month out.
Hmm. April 10. First night of Passover. Oh well. That is what the "record" function is for.
Recording Passover means you get to keep rewinding glasses of wine.
This is very smart, Stew.
While I support the wine aspect, I do not support the concept of making any Seder longer.
Only if you're Jewish.
As a goy I ask a lot of questions.
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New promo (http://www.avclub.com/article/gus-fring-back-new-teaser-better-call-saul-season--251871). Everyone's favorite chicken restaurant proprietor is in it (suck it, Colonel Sanders and uncomfortably overmuscled chicken (http://bigwangs.com)). We're one month out.
Hmm. April 10. First night of Passover. Oh well. That is what the "record" function is for.
Recording Passover means you get to keep rewinding glasses of wine.
This is very smart, Stew.
While I support the wine aspect, I do not support the concept of making any Seder longer.
Only if you're Jewish.
As a goy I ask a lot of questions.
Questions such as..."Why is this night different from any other night?"
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Quote from: Saul Goodman on March 10, 2017, 01:53:12 PM
New promo (http://www.avclub.com/article/gus-fring-back-new-teaser-better-call-saul-season--251871). Everyone's favorite chicken restaurant proprietor is in it (suck it, Colonel Sanders and uncomfortably overmuscled chicken (http://bigwangs.com)). We're one month out.
Hmm. April 10. First night of Passover. Oh well. That is what the "record" function is for.
Recording Passover means you get to keep rewinding glasses of wine.
This is very smart, Stew.
While I support the wine aspect, I do not support the concept of making any Seder longer.
Only if you're Jewish.
As a goy I ask a lot of questions.
Questions such as..."Why is this night different from any other night?"
You get three more and you're done.
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Quote from: PenFoe on March 11, 2017, 09:41:42 AM
Quote from: CBStew on March 10, 2017, 04:18:39 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on March 10, 2017, 01:53:12 PM
New promo (http://www.avclub.com/article/gus-fring-back-new-teaser-better-call-saul-season--251871). Everyone's favorite chicken restaurant proprietor is in it (suck it, Colonel Sanders and uncomfortably overmuscled chicken (http://bigwangs.com)). We're one month out.
Hmm. April 10. First night of Passover. Oh well. That is what the "record" function is for.
Recording Passover means you get to keep rewinding glasses of wine.
This is very smart, Stew.
While I support the wine aspect, I do not support the concept of making any Seder longer.
Only if you're Jewish.
As a goy I ask a lot of questions.
Questions such as..."Why is this night different from any other night?"
You get three more and you're done.
I ask more than four and then get a kick in the ankle.
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Quote from: PenFoe on March 11, 2017, 09:41:42 AM
Quote from: CBStew on March 10, 2017, 04:18:39 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on March 10, 2017, 01:53:12 PM
New promo (http://www.avclub.com/article/gus-fring-back-new-teaser-better-call-saul-season--251871). Everyone's favorite chicken restaurant proprietor is in it (suck it, Colonel Sanders and uncomfortably overmuscled chicken (http://bigwangs.com)). We're one month out.
Hmm. April 10. First night of Passover. Oh well. That is what the "record" function is for.
Recording Passover means you get to keep rewinding glasses of wine.
This is very smart, Stew.
While I support the wine aspect, I do not support the concept of making any Seder longer.
Only if you're Jewish.
As a goy I ask a lot of questions.
Questions such as..."Why is this night different from any other night?"
You get three more and you're done.
I ask more than four and then get a kick in the ankle.
In my house the fourth question is usually, "When do we eat?"
I love me some Bob Odenkirk, and so while I'm not going to dismiss the Jimmy storyline--since, after all, it's clear that it'll run into some cataclysm--right now it pales in comparison to the arc of the character played by one-time-career-character actor Jonathan Banks. At this point this show is "Better Call Mike" because every scene with Ehrmantraut grips the hell out of me.
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I love me some Bob Odenkirk, and so while I'm not going to dismiss the Jimmy storyline--since, after all, it's clear that it'll run into some cataclysm--right now it pales in comparison to the arc of the character played by one-time-career-character actor Jonathan Banks. At this point this show is "Better Call Mike" because every scene with Ehrmantraut grips the hell out of me.
I enjoy the slow boil of Mike's storyline, but that scene with Jimmy and Chuck was heartbreaking.
I've just finished Breaking Bad and am about half way through season one of "Better Call Saul". Both Banks and Odenkirk are absolutely fucking outstanding.
It makes me sad to know how Ehrmantraut's story ends, though.
Ahhhrrgghhh
I'm not going to make it through waiting a whole week.
Damn you Vince Gilligan.
Oh, by the way nobody noticed...
"There, that side, I think, the bottom of the M there? You're a little crooked."
So what did Chuck say to Kim that was such a big deal?
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on May 02, 2017, 10:02:31 AM
So what did Chuck say to Kim that was such a big deal?
Guessing the admission that he made a copy suggests some sort of entrapment.
Damn. I wonder if this might be the turning point for Kim. No one in that room looked comfortable with what he just saw and heard, not even Jimmy.
(http://www.screeninsults.com/images/the-caine-mutiny-bogart.jpg)
Lydia!
I like how they've handled introducing the supporting BB characters.
Very light on Mike this week. I'll bet next week is a Mike/Nacho episode.
I'm sad this season is almost over.
I think the writers over MacGuyver'd Nacho's pill swap.
Still, great stuff. How much did Slippin' Jimmy get from the guitar guys? And now we know why Saul lays on the floor in his office.
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I think the writers over MacGuyver'd Nacho's pill swap.
Still, great stuff. How much did Slippin' Jimmy get from the guitar guys? And now we know why Saul lays on the floor in his office.
At first I thought he just got the guitar guys to keep the deal to buy his commercials, but getting some more cash would explain how he was able to pay his half without any difficulty.
I want to see more commercials from Saul. A1A Car Wash, Lazer Base, and Vamonos Pest Control come to mind.
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Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 08, 2017, 11:15:18 AM
I think the writers over MacGuyver'd Nacho's pill swap.
Still, great stuff. How much did Slippin' Jimmy get from the guitar guys? And now we know why Saul lays on the floor in his office.
At first I thought he just got the guitar guys to keep the deal to buy his commercials, but getting some more cash would explain how he was able to pay his half without any difficulty.
I want to see more commercials from Saul. A1A Car Wash, Lazer Base, and Vamonos Pest Control come to mind.
Add the Law Office of Kim Wexler to the list. The commercial just shows Kim shaking her head in the corner at everything Saul is doing and saying.
I knew it was inevitable, but I still hated to see Jimmy completely turn into Saul this episode. It's strange because when they announced they were making the show, I expected to see him pulling sleazy shit like that every week, and now I just think about how much I'm going to miss Jimmy.
Also, Howard finally found his balls. Good for him.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 08, 2017, 11:15:18 AM
I think the writers over MacGuyver'd Nacho's pill swap.
Still, great stuff. How much did Slippin' Jimmy get from the guitar guys? And now we know why Saul lays on the floor in his office.
When I saw that acrobatic flop I wondered how Odenkirk did that. How could the actor not have hurt himself, let alone the character that he plays.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on June 13, 2017, 11:21:50 AM
I knew it was inevitable, but I still hated to see Jimmy completely turn into Saul this episode. It's strange because when they announced they were making the show, I expected to see him pulling sleazy shit like that every week, and now I just think about how much I'm going to miss Jimmy.
Also, Howard finally found his balls. Good for him.
I absolutely enjoy the character of Howard. Yes, he's an asshole, but I almost find him to be an asshole worth rooting for. I can't quite put my finger on it; I just know he's enjoyable to watch.
Great season. Can't return fast enough.
Poor Chuck.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on June 21, 2017, 10:24:35 AM
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Poor Chuck.
They did it: I finally felt sorry for Chuck.
Well, to be fair, it wasn't hard to feel for him when Jimmy bamboozled him by doctoring the address on the Mesa Verde files. There's proof that Chuck wasn't really a bad guy; I think the wormvirus that was Jimmy slowly ate his brain.
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Poor Chuck.
They did it: I finally felt sorry for Chuck.
Well, to be fair, it wasn't hard to feel for him when Jimmy bamboozled him by doctoring the address on the Mesa Verde files. There's proof that Chuck wasn't really a bad guy; I think the wormvirus that was Jimmy slowly ate his brain.
"YOU AREN'T A REAL LAWYER!!!" - Chuck
He was an asshole who never got over that his slippery brother was loved despite being slippery.
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Poor Chuck.
They did it: I finally felt sorry for Chuck.
Well, to be fair, it wasn't hard to feel for him when Jimmy bamboozled him by doctoring the address on the Mesa Verde files. There's proof that Chuck wasn't really a bad guy; I think the wormvirus that was Jimmy slowly ate his brain.
"YOU AREN'T A REAL LAWYER!!!" - Chuck
He was an asshole who never got over that his slippery brother was loved despite being slippery.
I think they're both fairly terrible people that are entertaining to watch. I feel sorry for Chuck having to cope with his mental illness and the fact that his hatred for Jimmy poisoned everything he built in his life, but he was still a prick.
Jimmy's charming and likeabke with good intentions, but he's an amoral man who thinks means don't matter.
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Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on June 21, 2017, 08:19:21 AM
Poor Chuck.
They did it: I finally felt sorry for Chuck.
Well, to be fair, it wasn't hard to feel for him when Jimmy bamboozled him by doctoring the address on the Mesa Verde files. There's proof that Chuck wasn't really a bad guy; I think the wormvirus that was Jimmy slowly ate his brain.
"YOU AREN'T A REAL LAWYER!!!" - Chuck
He was an asshole who never got over that his slippery brother was loved despite being slippery.
I think they're both fairly terrible people that are entertaining to watch. I feel sorry for Chuck having to cope with his mental illness and the fact that his hatred for Jimmy poisoned everything he built in his life, but he was still a prick.
Jimmy's charming and likeabke with good intentions, but he's an amoral man who thinks means don't matter.
This is fair.
Kind of heartbreaking, in retrospect, to consider the opening scene in this season finale where Chuck's reading Little Red Riding Hood to Jimmy in the tent. When you consider that Jimmy was ripping off his parents since he was old enough to shave and everything that followed, it's not hard to see that Chuck, in the end, was the victim of a younger brother who was a bad egg from birth. That's why I fall on the side of sympathy for Chuck. Chuck was definitely an asshole as an adult but--again--I attribute some of that to the effect that Jimmy had on him.
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Quote from: Saul Goodman on June 21, 2017, 10:24:35 AM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on June 21, 2017, 08:19:21 AM
Poor Chuck.
They did it: I finally felt sorry for Chuck.
Well, to be fair, it wasn't hard to feel for him when Jimmy bamboozled him by doctoring the address on the Mesa Verde files. There's proof that Chuck wasn't really a bad guy; I think the wormvirus that was Jimmy slowly ate his brain.
"YOU AREN'T A REAL LAWYER!!!" - Chuck
He was an asshole who never got over that his slippery brother was loved despite being slippery.
I think they're both fairly terrible people that are entertaining to watch. I feel sorry for Chuck having to cope with his mental illness and the fact that his hatred for Jimmy poisoned everything he built in his life, but he was still a prick.
Jimmy's charming and likeabke with good intentions, but he's an amoral man who thinks means don't matter.
This is fair.
Kind of heartbreaking, in retrospect, to consider the opening scene in this season finale where Chuck's reading Little Red Riding Hood to Jimmy in the tent. When you consider that Jimmy was ripping off his parents since he was old enough to shave and everything that followed, it's not hard to see that Chuck, in the end, was the victim of a younger brother who was a bad egg from birth. That's why I fall on the side of sympathy for Chuck. Chuck was definitely an asshole as an adult but--again--I attribute some of that to the effect that Jimmy had on him.
In Jimmy's defense, he watched everyone else rip his parents off too. They were not equipped to deal with someone for whom rules are only suggestions.
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Quote from: Saul Goodman on June 21, 2017, 10:24:35 AM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on June 21, 2017, 08:19:21 AM
Poor Chuck.
They did it: I finally felt sorry for Chuck.
Well, to be fair, it wasn't hard to feel for him when Jimmy bamboozled him by doctoring the address on the Mesa Verde files. There's proof that Chuck wasn't really a bad guy; I think the wormvirus that was Jimmy slowly ate his brain.
"YOU AREN'T A REAL LAWYER!!!" - Chuck
He was an asshole who never got over that his slippery brother was loved despite being slippery.
I think they're both fairly terrible people that are entertaining to watch. I feel sorry for Chuck having to cope with his mental illness and the fact that his hatred for Jimmy poisoned everything he built in his life, but he was still a prick.
Jimmy's charming and likeabke with good intentions, but he's an amoral man who thinks means don't matter.
This is fair.
Kind of heartbreaking, in retrospect, to consider the opening scene in this season finale where Chuck's reading Little Red Riding Hood to Jimmy in the tent. When you consider that Jimmy was ripping off his parents since he was old enough to shave and everything that followed, it's not hard to see that Chuck, in the end, was the victim of a younger brother who was a bad egg from birth. That's why I fall on the side of sympathy for Chuck. Chuck was definitely an asshole as an adult but--again--I attribute some of that to the effect that Jimmy had on him.
In Jimmy's defense, he watched everyone else rip his parents off too. They were not equipped to deal with someone for whom rules are only suggestions.
Jimmy was selfless when he sacrificed on behalf of the little old lady whom he had conned into taking the settlement. It is like watching the yin battle with the yang. Jimmy has multiple personalities that don't get along with each other.
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Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on June 21, 2017, 10:32:57 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on June 21, 2017, 10:24:35 AM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on June 21, 2017, 08:19:21 AM
Poor Chuck.
They did it: I finally felt sorry for Chuck.
Well, to be fair, it wasn't hard to feel for him when Jimmy bamboozled him by doctoring the address on the Mesa Verde files. There's proof that Chuck wasn't really a bad guy; I think the wormvirus that was Jimmy slowly ate his brain.
"YOU AREN'T A REAL LAWYER!!!" - Chuck
He was an asshole who never got over that his slippery brother was loved despite being slippery.
I think they're both fairly terrible people that are entertaining to watch. I feel sorry for Chuck having to cope with his mental illness and the fact that his hatred for Jimmy poisoned everything he built in his life, but he was still a prick.
Jimmy's charming and likeabke with good intentions, but he's an amoral man who thinks means don't matter.
This is fair.
Kind of heartbreaking, in retrospect, to consider the opening scene in this season finale where Chuck's reading Little Red Riding Hood to Jimmy in the tent. When you consider that Jimmy was ripping off his parents since he was old enough to shave and everything that followed, it's not hard to see that Chuck, in the end, was the victim of a younger brother who was a bad egg from birth. That's why I fall on the side of sympathy for Chuck. Chuck was definitely an asshole as an adult but--again--I attribute some of that to the effect that Jimmy had on him.
In Jimmy's defense, he watched everyone else rip his parents off too. They were not equipped to deal with someone for whom rules are only suggestions.
Jimmy was selfless when he sacrificed on behalf of the little old lady whom he had conned into taking the settlement. It is like watching the yin battle with the yang. Jimmy has multiple personalities that don't get along with each other.
Epiphany. One of his personalities is named Jimmy McGill. The other is named Saul Goodman. Saul is taking over.
Only one quibble with the finale: where's Mike? But I gladly accept more Nacho in his stead.
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Poor Chuck.
They did it: I finally felt sorry for Chuck.
Just watched the entire series to date over the past couple of months.
What a fantastic show.
I don't know if I felt sorry for Chuck, but it was the first time in a while I was cringing a bit.
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Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on June 21, 2017, 08:19:21 AM
Poor Chuck.
They did it: I finally felt sorry for Chuck.
Just watched the entire series to date over the past couple of months.
What a fantastic show.
I don't know if I felt sorry for Chuck, but it was the first time in a while I was cringing a bit.
I was surprised Chuck went the way he did. I always thought Chuck would meet his demise by being electrocuted, both as a twist on his condition and in keeping with the fact that he's always been Frank Grimes to Jimmy's Homer Simpson.
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Quote from: Saul Goodman on June 21, 2017, 10:24:35 AM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on June 21, 2017, 08:19:21 AM
Poor Chuck.
They did it: I finally felt sorry for Chuck.
Just watched the entire series to date over the past couple of months.
What a fantastic show.
I don't know if I felt sorry for Chuck, but it was the first time in a while I was cringing a bit.
I was surprised Chuck went the way he did. I always thought Chuck would meet his demise by being electrocuted, both as a twist on his condition and in keeping with the fact that he's always been Frank Grimes to Jimmy's Homer Simpson.
Or Grimey, as he liked to be called.
Just checking in, half way through season 3, to say HOW FUCKING MUCH I love this show. The beauty of the slow pacing is that it allows the characters time to develop in a way that very few other shows - if any - can emulate. Jimmy, Chuck, Mike, Kim, Howard, Gus, Nacho... there is very little black and white (Hector Salamanca, maybe?) in this show, just a thousand shades of grey, and I wish more telly was like it. It's better and more rounded than Breaking Bad, and that's saying something.
Tonk, all I can do is repost... The absolute fucking best (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGsC_LO3oFY&spfreload=1)
Goddammmm Junior Brown.
Next time this thread gets bumped, it better be cause there's a release date for Season 4.
Or boobs.
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Next time this thread gets bumped, it better be cause there's a release date for Season 4.
Or boobs.
Calm down, Clay Thomas.
My body is ready. (https://www.avclub.com/vince-gilligan-says-better-call-saul-gets-darker-this-1822418789)
Maybe Jimmy took Chuck's advice in the last episode to just "embrace it." I really hated him at the end of this episode.
I always like the Mike stuff, but I'm now more interested in Nacho's story than anything else. I never imagined that would happen when I first started watching this show.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on August 07, 2018, 10:20:00 AM
Maybe Jimmy took Chuck's advice in the last episode to just "embrace it." I really hated him at the end of this episode.
I always like the Mike stuff, but I'm now more interested in Nacho's story than anything else. I never imagined that would happen when I first started watching this show.
I'm excited for an even closer look at Nacho. So happy this show is back. I chanced into meeting Vince Gilligan the weekend before last and I take that as a good sign for this season.
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Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on August 07, 2018, 10:20:00 AM
Maybe Jimmy took Chuck's advice in the last episode to just "embrace it." I really hated him at the end of this episode.
I always like the Mike stuff, but I'm now more interested in Nacho's story than anything else. I never imagined that would happen when I first started watching this show.
I'm excited for an even closer look at Nacho. So happy this show is back. I chanced into meeting Vince Gilligan the weekend before last and I take that as a good sign for this season.
Did you tell him you took his character as your own online character on a Cubs message board?
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Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on August 07, 2018, 10:20:00 AM
Maybe Jimmy took Chuck's advice in the last episode to just "embrace it." I really hated him at the end of this episode.
I always like the Mike stuff, but I'm now more interested in Nacho's story than anything else. I never imagined that would happen when I first started watching this show.
I'm excited for an even closer look at Nacho. So happy this show is back. I chanced into meeting Vince Gilligan the weekend before last and I take that as a good sign for this season.
Did you tell him you took his character as your own online character on a Cubs message board?
No, I saved that amusing anecdote for next time.
I admit it.
I have no clue why Jimmy turned down that sales job and then went right back to the job search.
I also don't get why he thinks Mike would care about Hummel figurine or want to rip those people off.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on August 19, 2018, 04:40:06 PM
I admit it.
I have no clue why Jimmy turned down that sales job and then went right back to the job search.
I also don't get why he thinks Mike would care about Hummel figurine or want to rip those people off.
I think he's feeling a lot of guilt about Chuck's death and with that he feels ashamed of who he is. Because those guys were so easily swayed by a Slippin' Jimmy song-and-dance routine that sounded good but had no substance, he doesn't respect them and wouldn't want to work for them. Rejecting them is a rejection of his own self.
As for Mike, I don't think caring about the job is a requirement for him to do it. Jimmy can't steal it himself, therefore he needs a guy, and it's either Mike or Nacho since those are the only guys he knows.
Much to the dismay of mrs. flannj I recognized Tom Lehrer immediately and I sang along.
It is quite possible that I am biggest dork that has ever lived.
Quote from: flannj on August 20, 2018, 11:43:25 PM
Much to the dismay of mrs. flannj I recognized Tom Lehrer immediately and I sang along.
It is quite possible that I am biggest dork that has ever lived.
I saw Tomfoolery. So you're at least tied.
Ira and Gale!
Was that the first time AMC let someone say "fuck" on the air? I'm pretty sure they always bleeped it on this show and on Breaking Bad.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on September 11, 2018, 05:33:50 PM
Was that the first time AMC let someone say "fuck" on the air? I'm pretty sure they always bleeped it on this show and on Breaking Bad.
I think I Fucked Ted wasn't bleeped... But I'm not 100%
Don't get me started about Hummels, much less Lladro.
Quote from: Yeti on September 15, 2018, 12:17:03 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on September 11, 2018, 05:33:50 PM
Was that the first time AMC let someone say "fuck" on the air? I'm pretty sure they always bleeped it on this show and on Breaking Bad.
I think I Fucked Ted wasn't bleeped... But I'm not 100%
I think they muted that. AMC general has a one or two fuck limits per season. But I do think this was one of the first that was out loud, if no the first.
Quote from: Wheezer on September 15, 2018, 12:33:13 AM
Don't get me started about Hummels, much less Lladro.
Any opinions on Limoges? Nambé?
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Quote from: Wheezer on September 15, 2018, 12:33:13 AM
Don't get me started about Hummels, much less Lladro.
Any opinions on Limoges? Nambé?
No. My late mother was really into Hummels, and when my imaginary college girlfriend and I went to Spain for a summer, I was tasked with bringing back a Lladró, which proved to be well beyond my means. I'm leaving to visit my father on the 26th, so I can tell you what porcelain I wound up choosing.
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Quote from: Bort on September 15, 2018, 03:35:43 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on September 15, 2018, 12:33:13 AM
Don't get me started about Hummels, much less Lladro.
Any opinions on Limoges? Nambé?
No. My late mother was really into Hummels, and when my imaginary college girlfriend and I went to Spain for a summer, I was tasked with bringing back a Lladró, which proved to be well beyond my means. I'm leaving to visit my father on the 26th, so I can tell you what porcelain I wound up choosing.
My Mum has a large collection of Lladró. Is it worth something, then?
SPOILER ALERT
The season finale was terrific. Loose ends were tied up, and new questions arose. Although it explained how Jimmy McGill became Saul Goodman (which we knew if we had been paying attention) I still don't get what that underground bunker is all about. Nor do I know why the German engineer had to be killed. (Was there a metaphor about the Holocaust or am I over thinking this?) But Jonathan Banks is such an amazing and riveting actor I had to replay that scene over and over.
Quote from: CBStew on October 10, 2018, 01:30:38 PM
SPOILER ALERT
The season finale was terrific. Loose ends were tied up, and new questions arose. Although it explained how Jimmy McGill became Saul Goodman (which we knew if we had been paying attention) I still don't get what that underground bunker is all about. Nor do I know why the German engineer had to be killed. (Was there a metaphor about the Holocaust or am I over thinking this?) But Jonathan Banks is such an amazing and riveting actor I had to replay that scene over and over.
Because Gus Fring does not tolerate loose ends or loose cannons. Until he goes against his better judgment to make a deal with one Walter Hartwell White.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 10, 2018, 02:02:22 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 10, 2018, 01:30:38 PM
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The season finale was terrific. Loose ends were tied up, and new questions arose. Although it explained how Jimmy McGill became Saul Goodman (which we knew if we had been paying attention) I still don't get what that underground bunker is all about. Nor do I know why the German engineer had to be killed. (Was there a metaphor about the Holocaust or am I over thinking this?) But Jonathan Banks is such an amazing and riveting actor I had to replay that scene over and over.
Because Gus Fring does not tolerate loose ends or loose cannons. Until he goes against his better judgment to make a deal with one Walter Hartwell White.
I guess that is my problem. I keep forgetting that this is a prequel, and, unfortunately, I never watched "Breaking Bad". By the way, the expression on Jimmy McGill's girlfriend's face when she realizes that McGill might not be the person whom she thought he was was another highlight of the show.
Quote from: CBStew on October 10, 2018, 02:34:39 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 10, 2018, 02:02:22 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 10, 2018, 01:30:38 PM
SPOILER ALERT
The season finale was terrific. Loose ends were tied up, and new questions arose. Although it explained how Jimmy McGill became Saul Goodman (which we knew if we had been paying attention) I still don't get what that underground bunker is all about. Nor do I know why the German engineer had to be killed. (Was there a metaphor about the Holocaust or am I over thinking this?) But Jonathan Banks is such an amazing and riveting actor I had to replay that scene over and over.
Because Gus Fring does not tolerate loose ends or loose cannons. Until he goes against his better judgment to make a deal with one Walter Hartwell White.
I guess that is my problem. I keep forgetting that this is a prequel, and, unfortunately, I never watched "Breaking Bad". By the way, the expression on Jimmy McGill's girlfriend's face when she realizes that McGill might not be the person whom she thought he was was another highlight of the show.
Ah, I didn't realize you haven't seen Breaking Bad.
SPOILER (minor one, but still):
The chemist Gale Boetticher (David Costabile), who you saw touring the unfinished bunker in Monday's episode with Gus, will build a meth lab in that bunker either prior to or during the events of Breaking Bad. We're shown a montage of Gale unboxing top-dollar lab equipment -- some of it purchased from a division of Madrigal Electromotive, of course -- in the empty, finished bunker. (Gale then marvels that Gus "spared no expense" building the lab, encouraging him to hire the most skilled chemist available [Walt] in order to get the most out of his massive investment. This is one of the deciding factors in Gus hiring Walt despite his initial misgivings.)
Gale and Walt will also cook in the bunker/lab together. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ83kt4a2-A) What we're seeing in Better Call Saul is the initial groundbreaking and construction, which was never shown in Breaking Bad. It's simply introduced as a giant Superlab in the ground underneath the industrial laundromat.
Quote from: CBStew on October 10, 2018, 02:34:39 PM
By the way, the expression on Jimmy McGill's girlfriend's face when she realizes that McGill might not be the person whom she thought he was was another highlight of the show.
It's about damn time Rhea Seehorn wins some awards for her work on this show. So great.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 10, 2018, 07:23:42 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 10, 2018, 02:34:39 PM
By the way, the expression on Jimmy McGill's girlfriend's face when she realizes that McGill might not be the person whom she thought he was was another highlight of the show.
It's about damn time Rhea Seehorn wins some awards for her work on this show. So great.
It was her Hank on the toilet moment.
She's done some great work this season. The scene with Howard at HHM and the scene with Jimmy on the rooftop were both brilliant.
This show is better than Breaking Bad.
The new season has started.
It used to be said about Seinfeld that "it was a show about nothing". I am beginning to feel that is the perfect description of "Better Call Saul". The characters are well written. The actors are superb. But when will there be signs of a plot? The show starts to go somewhere...and then that direction dead ends. I know that eventually it will be about drug distribution. The most interesting characters are dealers. But so far they are miles away from Jimmy/Saul. Last night's show started with Jimmy handing out 50% off cards and 2 lowlifes taking the discount cards and going on a minor crime spree. But then they stopped and never reappeared. Instead we watched Jimmy go house hunting. WTF?
Quote from: Tonker on October 12, 2018, 02:24:21 AM
This show is better than Breaking Bad.
Tonker is probably right!