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1  General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: 2016 MLB Offseason Thread on: December 04, 2016, 08:45:30 PM
Might be worth picking up the surprisingly non-tendered Tyson Ross and betting on a bounceback from injury.

No risk, potential for high reward. I'd do it in a heartbeat.

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The Cubs made attempts over the past couple years to acquire right-hander Tyson Ross from the Padres and could pursue him in free agency, according to Bruce Levine of CBS Chicago. “The Padres were close to trading Ross to the Cubs for Starlin Castro,” a major league source who worked for one of the teams told Levine. “San Diego execs were mixed on asking for Castro or Javier Baez. The deal went down to the wire in late July of 2015 but never got to the point of exchanging medicals.” Ross was a front-of-the-rotation starter at that point, but he only threw 5 1/3 innings last season and is currently recovering from thoracic outlet syndrome surgery. The Padres non-tendered him Friday.

Yep. Whoever signs him will (my guess, FWIW) sign him to a minor league deal to see if he can come back in 2017 with an eye toward him being productive in 2018. If he can come all the way back (granted, unlikely), you've got a cheap top-of-the-rotation guy.

The problem with that is everyone else will want to sign him to a minor league deal too. I think he'll get guaranteed money and an MLB roster spot. He's supposed to be ready to pitch by April or even spring training so it's not like he's expected to miss half of the year.

Has anybody ever been an effective athlete following thoracic outlet syndrome surgery? I wouldn't want to blow a roster spot on finding out if he can.

Hopefully Jepstink walk away if the bidding gets too rich.

Wikipedia provides the following list, apparently in no particular order.

Tyson Ross (SD)
Matt Harvey (NYM)
Luke Hochevar (KC)
Phil Hughes (MIN)
Mike Foltynewicz (ATL)
Chris Carpenter (STL)
Jaime Garcia (ATL)
Josh Beckett
Shaun Marcum
Matt Harrison (PHI)
Clayton Richard (SD)
Noah Lowry
Chris Young
2  General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: 2016 MLB Offseason Thread on: December 04, 2016, 10:45:56 AM
Might be worth picking up the surprisingly non-tendered Tyson Ross and betting on a bounceback from injury.

No risk, potential for high reward. I'd do it in a heartbeat.

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The Cubs made attempts over the past couple years to acquire right-hander Tyson Ross from the Padres and could pursue him in free agency, according to Bruce Levine of CBS Chicago. “The Padres were close to trading Ross to the Cubs for Starlin Castro,” a major league source who worked for one of the teams told Levine. “San Diego execs were mixed on asking for Castro or Javier Baez. The deal went down to the wire in late July of 2015 but never got to the point of exchanging medicals.” Ross was a front-of-the-rotation starter at that point, but he only threw 5 1/3 innings last season and is currently recovering from thoracic outlet syndrome surgery. The Padres non-tendered him Friday.

Yep. Whoever signs him will (my guess, FWIW) sign him to a minor league deal to see if he can come back in 2017 with an eye toward him being productive in 2018. If he can come all the way back (granted, unlikely), you've got a cheap top-of-the-rotation guy.

The problem with that is everyone else will want to sign him to a minor league deal too. I think he'll get guaranteed money and an MLB roster spot. He's supposed to be ready to pitch by April or even spring training so it's not like he's expected to miss half of the year.

DPD. Compare what lesser pitchers are getting for one year.

$12.5 million (one year) to RHP Bartolo Colon
$10 million (one year) to RHP Andrew Cashner
$7.5 million (one year) to RHP R.A. Dickey

Only the teams can review his medicals, obviously (although he was a Padre, so maybe not), but I could see him getting $7 million or more if an April or May return looks like a strong possibility. Anything less would seem like a steal. He's a free agent again after this season so it's pretty unlikely he'd accept a one-year deal at a lower price and a team option for market value money. The only way he does is if teams balk at the medicals and look at him as a 2018 asset with 2017 lost to rehab.
3  General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: 2016 MLB Offseason Thread on: December 04, 2016, 10:37:52 AM
Might be worth picking up the surprisingly non-tendered Tyson Ross and betting on a bounceback from injury.

No risk, potential for high reward. I'd do it in a heartbeat.

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The Cubs made attempts over the past couple years to acquire right-hander Tyson Ross from the Padres and could pursue him in free agency, according to Bruce Levine of CBS Chicago. “The Padres were close to trading Ross to the Cubs for Starlin Castro,” a major league source who worked for one of the teams told Levine. “San Diego execs were mixed on asking for Castro or Javier Baez. The deal went down to the wire in late July of 2015 but never got to the point of exchanging medicals.” Ross was a front-of-the-rotation starter at that point, but he only threw 5 1/3 innings last season and is currently recovering from thoracic outlet syndrome surgery. The Padres non-tendered him Friday.

Yep. Whoever signs him will (my guess, FWIW) sign him to a minor league deal to see if he can come back in 2017 with an eye toward him being productive in 2018. If he can come all the way back (granted, unlikely), you've got a cheap top-of-the-rotation guy.

The problem with that is everyone else will want to sign him to a minor league deal too. I think he'll get guaranteed money and an MLB roster spot. He's supposed to be ready to pitch by April or even spring training so it's not like he's expected to miss half of the year.
4  General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: 2016 MLB Offseason Thread on: December 04, 2016, 02:06:39 AM
Might be worth picking up the surprisingly non-tendered Tyson Ross and betting on a bounceback from injury.

No risk, potential for high reward. I'd do it in a heartbeat.

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The Cubs made attempts over the past couple years to acquire right-hander Tyson Ross from the Padres and could pursue him in free agency, according to Bruce Levine of CBS Chicago. “The Padres were close to trading Ross to the Cubs for Starlin Castro,” a major league source who worked for one of the teams told Levine. “San Diego execs were mixed on asking for Castro or Javier Baez. The deal went down to the wire in late July of 2015 but never got to the point of exchanging medicals.” Ross was a front-of-the-rotation starter at that point, but he only threw 5 1/3 innings last season and is currently recovering from thoracic outlet syndrome surgery. The Padres non-tendered him Friday.
5  General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: Cubs 2017 Let's Win Two! on: December 03, 2016, 07:49:56 PM

(scattered applause, general indifference)
6  General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: Single Greatest Thread Ever on: December 03, 2016, 07:49:29 PM
Me. My company has deemed me expendable. They were the last to know.

That sucks. Especially since nobody hires in December.

Except baseball teams! Time to work on my cutter.

The good news: I'm not a member of any protected class, they said, so they don't have to give me any severance. Which was great to hear!

Well, if you haven't been shown the door yet, my advice to you is to steal everything that isn't nailed down.

And drink heavily.

Advice from no less than our only site overlord himself. I have no choice but to obey.
7  General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: Single Greatest Thread Ever on: December 03, 2016, 11:27:48 AM
Me. My company has deemed me expendable. They were the last to know.

That sucks. Especially since nobody hires in December.

Except baseball teams! Time to work on my cutter.

The good news: I'm not a member of any protected class, they said, so they don't have to give me any severance. Which was great to hear!
8  General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: I admit it... on: December 03, 2016, 03:59:59 AM
...I'm glad I was able to stop being such a damn cynic for long enough to enjoy the hell out of LeBron James wearing that Cubs uniform.  He was a good sport about it, lived up to the bet and went all-out, actually looked like a baseball player, and gave all credit to the Cubs who, in his words, "showed what true champions are all about."  The Decision was a long time ago.  Damn it, LeBron James is classy and cool as hell.  You got me, Maverick Carter.  You got me.
9  General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: 2016 MLB Offseason Thread on: December 02, 2016, 11:43:54 PM
Might be worth picking up the surprisingly non-tendered Tyson Ross and betting on a bounceback from injury.

And Welington Castillo, if just to mend SKO's broken heart.

If SKO ever takes a break from constantly calling David Ross begging him not to retire, that is.
10  General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: 2016 MLB Offseason Thread on: December 02, 2016, 11:25:18 PM
Might be worth picking up the surprisingly non-tendered Tyson Ross and betting on a bounceback from injury.
11  General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: Single Greatest Thread Ever on: December 02, 2016, 11:24:16 PM
Me. My company has deemed me expendable. They were the last to know.
Al needs someone to write positive reviews for his book. I'm not sure how well it pays. Probably in bologna sandwiches.

I'M THERE.
12  General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: Single Greatest Thread Ever on: December 02, 2016, 11:14:08 PM
Me. My company has deemed me expendable. They were the last to know.
13  General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: "Turd Throw" and other stories from the rancid NLC. on: December 02, 2016, 02:44:04 PM
Jung-Ho Kang arrested for DUI, fleeing the scene in Korea. You know, I'm starting to think he may not be such a great guy. Maybe Chris Coghlan was on to something.

Whatever happened with his rape case in Chicago?

Still under investigation, last I heard from a report out of Pittsburgh in September.

From CFiHP?

14  General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: 2016 Chicago Cubs: World Series Champions on: December 02, 2016, 01:42:18 PM
The comeback win against Milwaukee (the day after they 'backed into' the division title), and the first of what was to become many celebrations on the field afterwards will always have a warm spot in my heart.

The second Arrieta no hitter in April, followed by the fact that they apparently all went and had a giant pizza party in Grandpa's room and then kicked the shit out of the Reds again the next day (inspiring Thom's ENOUGH ALREADY rant) despite their hangovers.

I'm not sure what it says about me that this was one of my absolute favorite moments of the regular season. I can never get enough Thomenfreude.

What makes "enough already" even better was right as he was saying it, Kris smoked a double to the right-center field wall for another run. Eat shit, tHom.
15  General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: 2016 Chicago Cubs: World Series Champions on: December 02, 2016, 01:23:30 PM
Addy's sick game-saving catch at Wrigley against the Pirates. This one.
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