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Re: The only site I'll ever need...
« Reply #3735 on: November 09, 2017, 09:15:57 AM »
Quick question for lawyers, and Gil...

Next year Bryce Harper becomes a free agent, he's represented by Boras. Bryant is also represented by Boras.

If Bryant is offered an extension by the Cubs now, but it's less money that what Harper is looking for as a free agent, but Bryant wants to sign...that has an effect on Harper's price going into free agency, right?

If so, how is that not a conflict of interest on Boras' part?
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Re: The only site I'll ever need...
« Reply #3736 on: November 09, 2017, 09:53:53 AM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 09:15:57 AM
Quick question for lawyers, and Gil...

Next year Bryce Harper becomes a free agent, he's represented by Boras. Bryant is also represented by Boras.

If Bryant is offered an extension by the Cubs now, but it's less money that what Harper is looking for as a free agent, but Bryant wants to sign...that has an effect on Harper's price going into free agency, right?

If so, how is that not a conflict of interest on Boras' part?

There are factors that we don't know, but I would assume that the contract that Boras has with his clients contains a waiver of this conflict.  He only has to make a disclosure of the potential conflict and get an informed, knowing waiver.
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Re: The only site I'll ever need...
« Reply #3737 on: November 09, 2017, 10:14:28 AM »
Quote from: CBStew on November 09, 2017, 09:53:53 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 09:15:57 AM
Quick question for lawyers, and Gil...

Next year Bryce Harper becomes a free agent, he's represented by Boras. Bryant is also represented by Boras.

If Bryant is offered an extension by the Cubs now, but it's less money that what Harper is looking for as a free agent, but Bryant wants to sign...that has an effect on Harper's price going into free agency, right?

If so, how is that not a conflict of interest on Boras' part?

There are factors that we don't know, but I would assume that the contract that Boras has with his clients contains a waiver of this conflict.  He only has to make a disclosure of the potential conflict and get an informed, knowing waiver.

OK, now for a follow up...if Boras refuses to have his clients sign with a team or teams regardless of the offers presented, can that be construed as collusion?
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Re: The only site I'll ever need...
« Reply #3738 on: November 09, 2017, 11:21:20 AM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 10:14:28 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 09, 2017, 09:53:53 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 09:15:57 AM
Quick question for lawyers, and Gil...

Next year Bryce Harper becomes a free agent, he's represented by Boras. Bryant is also represented by Boras.

If Bryant is offered an extension by the Cubs now, but it's less money that what Harper is looking for as a free agent, but Bryant wants to sign...that has an effect on Harper's price going into free agency, right?

If so, how is that not a conflict of interest on Boras' part?

There are factors that we don't know, but I would assume that the contract that Boras has with his clients contains a waiver of this conflict.  He only has to make a disclosure of the potential conflict and get an informed, knowing waiver.

OK, now for a follow up...if Boras refuses to have his clients sign with a team or teams regardless of the offers presented, can that be construed as collusion?

Wait for Stew for the real answer. He's experienced in labor from what I remember. I'm just a litigator.

With that caveat, I don't know how you would ever prove that Boras "refused" to have his clients sign with a certain team. I also have a hard time believing any major league player would tolerate his agent dictating where he can and cannot sign. That's when you get a new agent. Everything I've ever read about Boras is that his loyalty lies with his clients, and their desires have always won out over his own preferences. I don't have firsthand knowledge, but I don't think he's the kind to hurt one contract to get a better one for someone else. Can't stay in business pulling stuff like that.

And collusion by and between whom? MLB? A team? Individual players?
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Re: The only site I'll ever need...
« Reply #3739 on: November 09, 2017, 11:55:53 AM »
Quote from: Saul Goodman on November 09, 2017, 11:21:20 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 10:14:28 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 09, 2017, 09:53:53 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 09:15:57 AM
Quick question for lawyers, and Gil...

Next year Bryce Harper becomes a free agent, he's represented by Boras. Bryant is also represented by Boras.

If Bryant is offered an extension by the Cubs now, but it's less money that what Harper is looking for as a free agent, but Bryant wants to sign...that has an effect on Harper's price going into free agency, right?

If so, how is that not a conflict of interest on Boras' part?

There are factors that we don't know, but I would assume that the contract that Boras has with his clients contains a waiver of this conflict.  He only has to make a disclosure of the potential conflict and get an informed, knowing waiver.

OK, now for a follow up...if Boras refuses to have his clients sign with a team or teams regardless of the offers presented, can that be construed as collusion?

Wait for Stew for the real answer. He's experienced in labor from what I remember. I'm just a litigator.

With that caveat, I don't know how you would ever prove that Boras "refused" to have his clients sign with a certain team. I also have a hard time believing any major league player would tolerate his agent dictating where he can and cannot sign. That's when you get a new agent. Everything I've ever read about Boras is that his loyalty lies with his clients, and their desires have always won out over his own preferences. I don't have firsthand knowledge, but I don't think he's the kind to hurt one contract to get a better one for someone else. Can't stay in business pulling stuff like that.

And collusion by and between whom? MLB? A team? Individual players?

Furthermore, I'd assume any official contract offers are reviewed by the MLPA.  And, I don't think MLB team management and the player agents have any reason to collude.

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Re: The only site I'll ever need...
« Reply #3740 on: November 09, 2017, 12:14:24 PM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 09:15:57 AM
Quick question for lawyers, and Gil...

Whatever happened to Gil, anyway.
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Re: The only site I'll ever need...
« Reply #3741 on: November 09, 2017, 01:11:39 PM »
Quote from: Saul Goodman on November 09, 2017, 12:14:24 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 09:15:57 AM
Quick question for lawyers, and Gil...

Whatever happened to Gil, anyway.

He's still out there, changing games and shifting paradigms.
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Re: The only site I'll ever need...
« Reply #3742 on: November 09, 2017, 02:49:30 PM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 01:11:39 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on November 09, 2017, 12:14:24 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 09:15:57 AM
Quick question for lawyers, and Gil...

Whatever happened to Gil, anyway.

He's still out there, changing games and shifting paradigms.

His return to Insipio will be quite the EV3NT
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Re: The only site I'll ever need...
« Reply #3743 on: November 17, 2017, 12:52:01 AM »
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 09, 2017, 02:49:30 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 01:11:39 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on November 09, 2017, 12:14:24 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 09:15:57 AM
Quick question for lawyers, and Gil...

Whatever happened to Gil, anyway.

He's still out there, changing games and shifting paradigms.

His return to Insipio will be quite the EV3NT

He was probably overtaken by feoaces-laden cats in the toilet.
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Re: The only site I'll ever need...
« Reply #3744 on: November 17, 2017, 08:49:59 AM »
Quote from: Wheezer on November 17, 2017, 12:52:01 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 09, 2017, 02:49:30 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 01:11:39 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on November 09, 2017, 12:14:24 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 09:15:57 AM
Quick question for lawyers, and Gil...

Whatever happened to Gil, anyway.

He's still out there, changing games and shifting paradigms.

His return to Insipio will be quite the EV3NT

He was probably overtaken by feoaces-laden cats in the toilet.

I heard he's still playing around "back there".
Just a sloppy, undisciplined team.  Garbage.

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Re: The only site I'll ever need...
« Reply #3745 on: November 17, 2017, 03:17:21 PM »
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 17, 2017, 08:49:59 AM
Quote from: Wheezer on November 17, 2017, 12:52:01 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 09, 2017, 02:49:30 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 01:11:39 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on November 09, 2017, 12:14:24 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 09:15:57 AM
Quick question for lawyers, and Gil...

Whatever happened to Gil, anyway.

He's still out there, changing games and shifting paradigms.

His return to Insipio will be quite the EV3NT

He was probably overtaken by feoaces-laden cats in the toilet.

I heard he's still playing around "back there".

He's about to launch fianceehunter.com
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Re: The only site I'll ever need...
« Reply #3746 on: November 17, 2017, 04:55:39 PM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 17, 2017, 03:17:21 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 17, 2017, 08:49:59 AM
Quote from: Wheezer on November 17, 2017, 12:52:01 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 09, 2017, 02:49:30 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 01:11:39 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on November 09, 2017, 12:14:24 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 09:15:57 AM
Quick question for lawyers, and Gil...

Whatever happened to Gil, anyway.

He's still out there, changing games and shifting paradigms.

His return to Insipio will be quite the EV3NT

He was probably overtaken by feoaces-laden cats in the toilet.

I heard he's still playing around "back there".

He's about to launch fianceehunter.com

Goosio, indeed.
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Re: The only site I'll ever need...
« Reply #3747 on: November 18, 2017, 08:58:08 AM »
Quote from: Bort on November 17, 2017, 04:55:39 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 17, 2017, 03:17:21 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 17, 2017, 08:49:59 AM
Quote from: Wheezer on November 17, 2017, 12:52:01 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 09, 2017, 02:49:30 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 01:11:39 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on November 09, 2017, 12:14:24 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 09:15:57 AM
Quick question for lawyers, and Gil...

Whatever happened to Gil, anyway.

He's still out there, changing games and shifting paradigms.

His return to Insipio will be quite the EV3NT

He was probably overtaken by feoaces-laden cats in the toilet.

I heard he's still playing around "back there".

He's about to launch fianceehunter.com

Goosio, indeed.

What's this about Malta?
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Re: The only site I'll ever need...
« Reply #3748 on: November 27, 2017, 09:26:42 AM »
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 18, 2017, 08:58:08 AM
Quote from: Bort on November 17, 2017, 04:55:39 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 17, 2017, 03:17:21 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 17, 2017, 08:49:59 AM
Quote from: Wheezer on November 17, 2017, 12:52:01 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 09, 2017, 02:49:30 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 01:11:39 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on November 09, 2017, 12:14:24 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 09:15:57 AM
Quick question for lawyers, and Gil...

Whatever happened to Gil, anyway.

He's still out there, changing games and shifting paradigms.

His return to Insipio will be quite the EV3NT

He was probably overtaken by feoaces-laden cats in the toilet.

I heard he's still playing around "back there".

He's about to launch fianceehunter.com

Goosio, indeed.

What's this about Malta?

Strip Club Buffet!  Are we done now?

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Re: The only site I'll ever need...
« Reply #3749 on: November 30, 2017, 03:33:06 PM »
Quote from: Oleg on November 27, 2017, 09:26:42 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 18, 2017, 08:58:08 AM
Quote from: Bort on November 17, 2017, 04:55:39 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 17, 2017, 03:17:21 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 17, 2017, 08:49:59 AM
Quote from: Wheezer on November 17, 2017, 12:52:01 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 09, 2017, 02:49:30 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 01:11:39 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on November 09, 2017, 12:14:24 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on November 09, 2017, 09:15:57 AM
Quick question for lawyers, and Gil...

Whatever happened to Gil, anyway.

He's still out there, changing games and shifting paradigms.

His return to Insipio will be quite the EV3NT

He was probably overtaken by feoaces-laden cats in the toilet.

I heard he's still playing around "back there".

He's about to launch fianceehunter.com

Goosio, indeed.

What's this about Malta?

Strip Club Buffet!  Are we done now?

My chilling computer simulation says no.
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