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Armchair_QB

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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #270 on: August 18, 2017, 06:23:56 PM »
Quote from: Brownie on August 17, 2017, 05:09:36 PM
Justin Wilson might be the worst reliever the Cubs have ever had. Grimm possibly second-worst.



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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #271 on: August 18, 2017, 10:58:26 PM »
If there's another tolerable arm in Iowa after calling up Zastryzny and Pena, it might be a good time for Wilson to come up with some "elbow tendinitis" or such. Take a few days off, and throw some rehab innings in the PCL to see if he can find the plate.

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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #272 on: August 19, 2017, 07:53:25 AM »
Quote from: Armchair_QB on August 18, 2017, 06:23:56 PM
Quote from: Brownie on August 17, 2017, 05:09:36 PM
Justin Wilson might be the worst reliever the Cubs have ever had. Grimm possibly second-worst.



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4.13 ERA in 134 appearances. Nice try

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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #273 on: August 23, 2017, 09:06:00 PM »
What the fuck Hector?
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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #274 on: August 23, 2017, 09:18:19 PM »
Quote from: flannj on August 23, 2017, 09:06:00 PM
What the fuck Hector?

I think he's just done. He's just never been the same dude since the triceps injury last year. It sucks, because peak Hector was as good as any reliever in baseball
I will vow, for the sake of peace, not to complain about David Ross between now and his first start next year- 10/26/2015

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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #275 on: August 24, 2017, 08:16:23 AM »
Quote from: SKO on August 23, 2017, 09:18:19 PM
Quote from: flannj on August 23, 2017, 09:06:00 PM
What the fuck Hector?

I think he's just done. He's just never been the same dude since the triceps injury last year. It sucks, because peak Hector was as good as any reliever in baseball

He hit 99 the night before while cleaning up Duensing's mess.
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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #276 on: August 24, 2017, 08:22:41 AM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 24, 2017, 08:16:23 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 23, 2017, 09:18:19 PM
Quote from: flannj on August 23, 2017, 09:06:00 PM
What the fuck Hector?

I think he's just done. He's just never been the same dude since the triceps injury last year. It sucks, because peak Hector was as good as any reliever in baseball

He hit 99 the night before while cleaning up Duensing's mess.

Fastball is still down from last year, which was already down from 2015, but the problem doesn't seem to be his velocity it's his movement, which can be affected by injury too. He used to have that wicked 2 seamer and now everything he throws just catches too much of the plate, and he never had a great slider to begin with.
I will vow, for the sake of peace, not to complain about David Ross between now and his first start next year- 10/26/2015

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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #277 on: August 24, 2017, 09:25:09 AM »
Quote from: SKO on August 24, 2017, 08:22:41 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 24, 2017, 08:16:23 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 23, 2017, 09:18:19 PM
Quote from: flannj on August 23, 2017, 09:06:00 PM
What the fuck Hector?

I think he's just done. He's just never been the same dude since the triceps injury last year. It sucks, because peak Hector was as good as any reliever in baseball

He hit 99 the night before while cleaning up Duensing's mess.

Fastball is still down from last year, which was already down from 2015, but the problem doesn't seem to be his velocity it's his movement, which can be affected by injury too. He used to have that wicked 2 seamer and now everything he throws just catches too much of the plate, and he never had a great slider to begin with.

Any credence to the notion that he's tipping his pitches?
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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #278 on: August 24, 2017, 11:46:18 AM »
Quote from: SKO on August 24, 2017, 08:22:41 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 24, 2017, 08:16:23 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 23, 2017, 09:18:19 PM
Quote from: flannj on August 23, 2017, 09:06:00 PM
What the fuck Hector?

I think he's just done. He's just never been the same dude since the triceps injury last year. It sucks, because peak Hector was as good as any reliever in baseball

He hit 99 the night before while cleaning up Duensing's mess.

Fastball is still down from last year, which was already down from 2015, but the problem doesn't seem to be his velocity it's his movement, which can be affected by injury too. He used to have that wicked 2 seamer and now everything he throws just catches too much of the plate, and he never had a great slider to begin with.

His walk rate is 9.7%, the highest it's been since his rookie season. I'd say he's not getting enough of the plate.

Plus, taking a quick gander at his splits on B-R, it appears that if he's 1-1 or behind in the count, he starts throwing get-me-over shit that's getting hammered.

So his overall lack of command is causing him to play it too safe, and he's getting lit up.
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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #279 on: August 24, 2017, 11:50:04 AM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 24, 2017, 11:46:18 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 24, 2017, 08:22:41 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 24, 2017, 08:16:23 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 23, 2017, 09:18:19 PM
Quote from: flannj on August 23, 2017, 09:06:00 PM
What the fuck Hector?

I think he's just done. He's just never been the same dude since the triceps injury last year. It sucks, because peak Hector was as good as any reliever in baseball

He hit 99 the night before while cleaning up Duensing's mess.

Fastball is still down from last year, which was already down from 2015, but the problem doesn't seem to be his velocity it's his movement, which can be affected by injury too. He used to have that wicked 2 seamer and now everything he throws just catches too much of the plate, and he never had a great slider to begin with.

His walk rate is 9.7%, the highest it's been since his rookie season. I'd say he's not getting enough of the plate.

Plus, taking a quick gander at his splits on B-R, it appears that if he's 1-1 or behind in the count, he starts throwing get-me-over shit that's getting hammered.

So his overall lack of command is causing him to play it too safe, and he's getting lit up.

One could say that a function of loss of command/loss of movement is that your fastball does not go where you expect it to go, which means you can A) walk a lot of guys while also B) leaving fastballs in the heart of the zone when you miss inside rather than out.
I will vow, for the sake of peace, not to complain about David Ross between now and his first start next year- 10/26/2015

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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #280 on: August 24, 2017, 11:51:48 AM »
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on August 24, 2017, 09:25:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 24, 2017, 08:22:41 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 24, 2017, 08:16:23 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 23, 2017, 09:18:19 PM
Quote from: flannj on August 23, 2017, 09:06:00 PM
What the fuck Hector?

I think he's just done. He's just never been the same dude since the triceps injury last year. It sucks, because peak Hector was as good as any reliever in baseball

He hit 99 the night before while cleaning up Duensing's mess.

Fastball is still down from last year, which was already down from 2015, but the problem doesn't seem to be his velocity it's his movement, which can be affected by injury too. He used to have that wicked 2 seamer and now everything he throws just catches too much of the plate, and he never had a great slider to begin with.

Any credence to the notion that he's tipping his pitches?

No idea? I'm not being ForkScout, just based on my untrained meatball observations it just looks like he doesn't hit 98/99 as often as he used to (backed up by stats) and the fastball he does have doesn't cut like it used to, velocity aside. I'm sure there's some Brooks Baseball thing that can confirm/deny this but I was just saying what it looked like to me.
I will vow, for the sake of peace, not to complain about David Ross between now and his first start next year- 10/26/2015

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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #281 on: August 24, 2017, 12:10:02 PM »
TPD: http://www.brooksbaseball.net/velo.php?player=444468&time=month&startDate=03/30/2007&endDate=08/24/2017&s_type=2

This here makes it look like his velocity has been all over the place this year, as opposed to being fairly consistent month to month in 2015/16, and then the horizontal movement on his fastball especially has varied wildly as well. So guessing his mechanics are fucked and he has no idea where the fastball is going anymore.
I will vow, for the sake of peace, not to complain about David Ross between now and his first start next year- 10/26/2015

Saul Goodman

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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #282 on: August 24, 2017, 09:32:45 PM »
Hi.

Also: Albert Ian.  My dude.  What was that.

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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #283 on: August 25, 2017, 05:24:57 AM »
For the love of God.  Do they have a rota for who's going to cough up three runs in the eighth and/or ninth?
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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #284 on: August 29, 2017, 09:13:15 PM »
Here's hoping the Cubs put in, and will win, a claim on Juan Nicasio, who the Pirates put on release waivers for some reason.
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