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Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2018, 03:41:25 PM »
I think he needs to rely more on the eephus. Hopefully Jim Benedict agrees.

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Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2018, 08:40:26 AM »
Good piece here on how Darvish joining the rotation not only means adding Montgomery to an already-improved bullpen, but it also means launching a subpar reliever (Justin Grimm) to Mars.

So the Cubs essentially traded Justin Grimm and money for Yu Darvish.
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Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2018, 08:46:14 AM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 14, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Good piece here on how Darvish joining the rotation not only means adding Montgomery to an already-improved bullpen, but it also means launching a subpar reliever (Justin Grimm) to Mars.

So the Cubs essentially traded Justin Grimm and money for Yu Darvish.

Someone else pointed out that Darvish/Chatwood will be costing the Cubs just a few million more each year than what Arrieta/Lackey cost.
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Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2018, 10:06:57 AM »
I'm most excited that I'll be able to constantly drive Pen crazy with my "No YU Darvish" "joke" for the next few years.
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Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2018, 12:51:06 PM »
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on February 14, 2018, 10:06:57 AM
I'm most excited that I'll be able to constantly drive Pen crazy with my "No YU Darvish" "joke" for the next few years.

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Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2018, 01:34:07 PM »
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on February 14, 2018, 10:06:57 AM
I'm most excited that I'll be able to constantly drive Pen crazy with my "No YU Darvish" "joke" for the next few years.

Shit, you know Maddon's going to throw him out in the field for one inning just for the "Yu's on first" jokes.
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Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2018, 03:50:45 PM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 14, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Good piece here on how Darvish joining the rotation not only means adding Montgomery to an already-improved bullpen, but it also means launching a subpar reliever (Justin Grimm) to Mars.

So the Cubs essentially traded Justin Grimm and money for Yu Darvish.

Indeed, adding a good player means more good players, and fewer bad players, on the roster. This is the bold, cutting edge analysis I demand from Fangraphs.
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Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2018, 04:13:24 PM »
Quote from: SKO on February 14, 2018, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 14, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Good piece here on how Darvish joining the rotation not only means adding Montgomery to an already-improved bullpen, but it also means launching a subpar reliever (Justin Grimm) to Mars.

So the Cubs essentially traded Justin Grimm and money for Yu Darvish.

Indeed, adding a good player means more good players, and fewer bad players, on the roster. This is the bold, cutting edge analysis I demand from Fangraphs.

Also, Grimm is still on the team assuming they go with 8 relievers, and a guy like Maples or Simmons doesn't have a great spring.

Morrow
Cishek
Strop
Edwards
Grimm
Wilson
Duensing
Montgomery

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Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2018, 04:20:36 PM »
Quote from: SKO on February 14, 2018, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 14, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Good piece here on how Darvish joining the rotation not only means adding Montgomery to an already-improved bullpen, but it also means launching a subpar reliever (Justin Grimm) to Mars.

So the Cubs essentially traded Justin Grimm and money for Yu Darvish.

Indeed, adding a good player means more good players, and fewer bad players, on the roster. This is the bold, cutting edge analysis I demand from Fangraphs.
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Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2018, 08:12:17 AM »
Quote from: R-V on February 14, 2018, 04:13:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 14, 2018, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 14, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Good piece here on how Darvish joining the rotation not only means adding Montgomery to an already-improved bullpen, but it also means launching a subpar reliever (Justin Grimm) to Mars.

So the Cubs essentially traded Justin Grimm and money for Yu Darvish.

Indeed, adding a good player means more good players, and fewer bad players, on the roster. This is the bold, cutting edge analysis I demand from Fangraphs.

Also, Grimm is still on the team assuming they go with 8 relievers, and a guy like Maples or Simmons doesn't have a great spring.

Morrow
Cishek
Strop
Edwards
Grimm
Wilson
Duensing
Montgomery

Yeah Grimm is finally out of options (I still have no idea how he had them as late as last year, considering he made his debut in Texas in like 2012 or something) so I'd expect him to get the last spot in the pen, he's flashed too much over the years for them to just discard him, probably. Maples would have to suddenly have a lot better command than he had last year to beat him out of the gate, I think.
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Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2018, 11:27:47 AM »
Quote from: SKO on February 15, 2018, 08:12:17 AM
Quote from: R-V on February 14, 2018, 04:13:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 14, 2018, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 14, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Good piece here on how Darvish joining the rotation not only means adding Montgomery to an already-improved bullpen, but it also means launching a subpar reliever (Justin Grimm) to Mars.

So the Cubs essentially traded Justin Grimm and money for Yu Darvish.

Indeed, adding a good player means more good players, and fewer bad players, on the roster. This is the bold, cutting edge analysis I demand from Fangraphs.

Also, Grimm is still on the team assuming they go with 8 relievers, and a guy like Maples or Simmons doesn't have a great spring.

Morrow
Cishek
Strop
Edwards
Grimm
Wilson
Duensing
Montgomery

Yeah Grimm is finally out of options (I still have no idea how he had them as late as last year, considering he made his debut in Texas in like 2012 or something) so I'd expect him to get the last spot in the pen, he's flashed too much over the years for them to just discard him, probably. Maples would have to suddenly have a lot better command than he had last year to beat him out of the gate, I think.

I'd think Maples will get the closer role in Iowa, so the Cubs could also get a feel for how he responds to high leverage situations. Grimm will get the 8 spot for now, but if the Cubs see any trades out there, they're going to try throwing him in.
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Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2018, 01:33:04 PM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 15, 2018, 11:27:47 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 15, 2018, 08:12:17 AM
Quote from: R-V on February 14, 2018, 04:13:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 14, 2018, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 14, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Good piece here on how Darvish joining the rotation not only means adding Montgomery to an already-improved bullpen, but it also means launching a subpar reliever (Justin Grimm) to Mars.

So the Cubs essentially traded Justin Grimm and money for Yu Darvish.

Indeed, adding a good player means more good players, and fewer bad players, on the roster. This is the bold, cutting edge analysis I demand from Fangraphs.

Also, Grimm is still on the team assuming they go with 8 relievers, and a guy like Maples or Simmons doesn't have a great spring.

Morrow
Cishek
Strop
Edwards
Grimm
Wilson
Duensing
Montgomery

Yeah Grimm is finally out of options (I still have no idea how he had them as late as last year, considering he made his debut in Texas in like 2012 or something) so I'd expect him to get the last spot in the pen, he's flashed too much over the years for them to just discard him, probably. Maples would have to suddenly have a lot better command than he had last year to beat him out of the gate, I think.

I'd think Maples will get the closer role in Iowa, so the Cubs could also get a feel for how he responds to high leverage situations. Grimm will get the 8 spot for now, but if the Cubs see any trades out there, they're going to try throwing him in.

Gotta see how Maples handles the pressure cooker of Triple-A baseball before bringing him up.
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Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2018, 01:38:04 PM »
Quote from: Saul Goodman on February 15, 2018, 01:33:04 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 15, 2018, 11:27:47 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 15, 2018, 08:12:17 AM
Quote from: R-V on February 14, 2018, 04:13:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 14, 2018, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 14, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Good piece here on how Darvish joining the rotation not only means adding Montgomery to an already-improved bullpen, but it also means launching a subpar reliever (Justin Grimm) to Mars.

So the Cubs essentially traded Justin Grimm and money for Yu Darvish.

Indeed, adding a good player means more good players, and fewer bad players, on the roster. This is the bold, cutting edge analysis I demand from Fangraphs.

Also, Grimm is still on the team assuming they go with 8 relievers, and a guy like Maples or Simmons doesn't have a great spring.

Morrow
Cishek
Strop
Edwards
Grimm
Wilson
Duensing
Montgomery

Yeah Grimm is finally out of options (I still have no idea how he had them as late as last year, considering he made his debut in Texas in like 2012 or something) so I'd expect him to get the last spot in the pen, he's flashed too much over the years for them to just discard him, probably. Maples would have to suddenly have a lot better command than he had last year to beat him out of the gate, I think.

I'd think Maples will get the closer role in Iowa, so the Cubs could also get a feel for how he responds to high leverage situations. Grimm will get the 8 spot for now, but if the Cubs see any trades out there, they're going to try throwing him in.

Gotta see how Maples handles the pressure cooker of Triple-A baseball before bringing him up.

He has options, Grimm doesn't. If they trade Grimm, it's all moot. But Maples will be the biggest stud in the Iowa pen, might as well make him closer.
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Re: The Yu Darvish Two-Straight-Cy-Youngs-Then-Opting-Out Splooge-O-Rama
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2018, 11:13:41 AM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 15, 2018, 01:38:04 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on February 15, 2018, 01:33:04 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 15, 2018, 11:27:47 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 15, 2018, 08:12:17 AM
Quote from: R-V on February 14, 2018, 04:13:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 14, 2018, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on February 14, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Good piece here on how Darvish joining the rotation not only means adding Montgomery to an already-improved bullpen, but it also means launching a subpar reliever (Justin Grimm) to Mars.

So the Cubs essentially traded Justin Grimm and money for Yu Darvish.

Indeed, adding a good player means more good players, and fewer bad players, on the roster. This is the bold, cutting edge analysis I demand from Fangraphs.

Also, Grimm is still on the team assuming they go with 8 relievers, and a guy like Maples or Simmons doesn't have a great spring.

Morrow
Cishek
Strop
Edwards
Grimm
Wilson
Duensing
Montgomery

Yeah Grimm is finally out of options (I still have no idea how he had them as late as last year, considering he made his debut in Texas in like 2012 or something) so I'd expect him to get the last spot in the pen, he's flashed too much over the years for them to just discard him, probably. Maples would have to suddenly have a lot better command than he had last year to beat him out of the gate, I think.

I'd think Maples will get the closer role in Iowa, so the Cubs could also get a feel for how he responds to high leverage situations. Grimm will get the 8 spot for now, but if the Cubs see any trades out there, they're going to try throwing him in.

Gotta see how Maples handles the pressure cooker of Triple-A baseball before bringing him up.

He has options, Grimm doesn't. If they trade Grimm, it's all moot. But Maples will be the biggest stud in the Iowa pen, might as well make him closer.

I'm guessing he was more making fun of the idea that "handling high leverage situations" is some discernible skill and that skill can/should be honed in AAA.