It can be a good thing to go to spring training with a roster that’s basically already set. That could mean that you’re loaded with talent and ready to roll.
It could also be a bad thing, because it might mean you don’t have any prospects ready to bust through, and because you’ve overpaid guys and/or given them contracts that are too long, you have no flexibility left to add anybody to the mix.
Gee, which of those do you think applies to these Cubs?
Some teams didn’t even officially start their spring camps until today and the Cubs, that 83 win juggernaut that we all enjoyed so much last year, have a roster that looks pretty much like last year’s, and doesn’t have any room to really change.
The most troubling aspect of this is that not only is this team positively sedentary, but it’s gotten old. Even the guys that fans seem to think are “kids” (and it probably doesn’t help that Lou calls anybody younger than him a “kid”), like Ryan Theriot, Mike Fontenot and Micah Hoffpauir are already 30–or in Fontenot’s case, will turn 30 this June.
A tour around the lineup is kind of depressing. The outfield consists of 34 year old Alfonso Soriano, and two guys who turn 33 this summer, Marlon Byrd and Kosuke Fukudome. And Fukudome looks like he’s in his late 50s.
E-ramis is 31 now, Theriot is 30 and Derrek Lee is 35. As Jay Jaffe of Baseball Prospectus says anytime he talks to a Chicago sports radio show (most recently this morning on Mully and Hanley), players don’t get better when they turn 30. At least not anymore, anyway. Hey, where’s Jay McGwire and his bag of needles when you need him?
We all assume that if they stay healthy, or at least healthier than last year, that the 2010 Cubs will win more games than the 2009 team did, but fewer than 2008. But part of the problem is that older players get hurt more and recover more slowly. So they aren’t really likely to be healthier than last year. Just older. And winning more than 83 with this bunch isn’t a safe bet.
When you factor in a starting rotation that includes an already injured 34 year old Ted Lilly and a soon to be 33 year old Ryan Dempster, this team’s old. And though Carlos Zambrano is only 28, he pitched four years for Dusty Baker, so basically his arm is 38 now.
Far be it from me to just use roster age as a reason the Cubs appear to be screwed.
Why should I? It’s not the only reason.
In this week’s Sports Illustrated there’s an article about how Jack Eyechart, their baldheaded GM, is trying to improve the team through better defense. It worked last year, and despite bringing in noted sociopath Milton Bradley, the Mariners have tried even harder (in other areas, obviously because Milton’s a basket case in the outfield) to improve their defense. Choosing Casey Kotchman to play first over Russell Branyan (who had a suprisingly good season last year–then again, he’s not likely to do that again, either), was another example this year. So was replacing a good defensive third baseman in Adrian Beltre with an even better one in Chone Figgins.
The whole idea goes back to how the A’s proved in the early ’00s that if you find the right market inefficiency, you can field good teams without huge payrolls. Then it was on base average. Eventually, other teams figured that out, and high on base guys started to cost more. So now the shift is towards defense. Run prevention.
Take a look at who the Cubs have playing defense. Try not to throw up on yourself.
There might not be a worse defensive left fielder in the world…not just the major leagues, than Alfonso Soriano. There’s a 9 year old in Meridian, Mississippi who played every game for his team (all nine of them) in left field. This is a kid who fell asleep on the field during one game. Took his glove off during another to pick his nose with both hands in one, and missed a flyball in another because he was chasing a butterfly, and that kid graded out a half run better per nine innings than Soriano.
The Cubs are playing a 245 pound man in centerfield. That’s right. Heavy legged Marlon Byrd weighs 245 pounds. The sound you hear is Len Kasper practicing saying “and that one will find the gap” over and over and over again.
Kosuke’s not too shabby in right. Hopefully the pitchers will learn to pitch every righthanded hitter away. Way away. Like in the lefty batter’s box away.
The infield at least has competence at the corners. E-ramis has turned into a good defensive third baseman, and Derrek Lee is super good at first. They’d better be, because the middle infield is–how do I write this elegantly? A fucking joke. An absolute, grade-A, pile of steaming defensive horseshit.
If you were going to try to find three guys to rotate through those two spots, you could hardly find three less equipped to handle shortstop and second base than Ryan Theriot, Mike Fontenot and Jeff Baker.
If the Cubs choose to waive Andres Blanco at the end of spring training and give a bench spot to Chad Tracy, Kevin Millar or Micah Hoffpauir (more on that in a second), they won’t have a shortstop on the roster.
Ryan Theriot’s not a shortstop. The Cubs complete lack of urgency in finding a real shortstop after Theriot saved their ass by playing it reasonably well in 2007 remains a mystery. He doesn’t have shortstop range and he certainly doesn’t have a shortstop arm. And if they choose to use Fontenot as his only backup, that’s ludicrous. Fontenot has even less range and an even weaker arm.
Baker’s value is to play competently at several positions, but he excels at none. He’s a utility player, and a good guy to have on a team, just not in your lineup a lot.
But honestly what good would it do to have Blanco on the bench? He’s such a non-factor at the plate that he’s useless as a pinch hitter, and in the National League can you really afford to waste a bench spot for a guy who might go in as a defensive replacement at short or second once a week?
Now, if you wanted to argue that the only way for Blanco’s defensive ability to have an impact on the team would be to make Baker a true utility player, and have Theriot play second while you put up with Blanco’s terrible offense at short all year, I’d listen to that. That might make sense. Blanco can really play shortstop. He hit .252 in very limited duty last year, and posted a gawdawful .303 on base average. He has no power (a career .321 slugging average). He basically hits like a pitcher. No manager wants to have two automatic outs at the bottom of his lineup.
In this case it might be worth considering, at least. Maybe only worth considering, though, probably not doing.
So that leads us to the big question. What dopes are the Cubs going to keep for their bench?
Lou seems to insist on having 12 pitchers, so that leaves 13 spots for position players. You’ve got eight starters, so what five guys make the team on the bench?
Let’s assume the platoons in right and second stick. So that puts Xavier Nady and Jeff Baker on the bench against righties with Kosuke and Fontenot in the lineup.
You have to have a backup catcher…apparently. So Koyie Hill and his complete lack of offensive value take up a third spot. Only two left.
Right now, the idea is to keep Sam Fuld to backup at all three outfield spots and Andy White to back up at short and second.
But the Cubs have Hoffpauir, Tracy and Millar in camp, too. All three are more valuable hitters off the bench than Fuld or White would be.
In my mind, Tracy is the best of the three. He’s a lefty like Hoffpauir, but unlike Micah he can play third base in addition to first, left and right. Millar can play all four spots, too, but he’s a righthanded hitter, and he’s been a shitty one since 2006. He’s also by far the oldest of the three (he’s 38). Tracy’s the youngest of the three.
So it’s Tracy!
Well? He’s pretty well sucked the last two seasons. He’s posted OPS pluses of 82 and 76, which…is not good.
These guys are so underwhelming that you can’t make a case to keep two of the three. It’s one or none.
In my mind, the easiest thing to do would be to keep one of them and send Fuld back to Iowa. You already have two guys capable of playing center on the roster in Byrd and Fukudome. And honestly, except for the fact that he can’t throw, Xavier Nady can play center (and has) in a pinch. Hey, it hasn’t stopped Juan Pierre. Because if somebody gets hurt, you can just call Fuld up from Iowa and he’s going to be there the next day. And if he’s out of options (I don’t think he is, and frankly I don’t care enough to look it up–it’s my Phil Rogers impersonation) who cares? You can shake a tree and a Sam Fuld falls out of it.
To make a long story short (I know, it’s way too late for that.) I think Lou is having Fontenot give short a try just to see what options he’s got. But I think Fontenot will embarrass himself there, and Blanco will make the final roster. I think Fuld won’t. I think Tracy has an edge over Millar because the bench could use another lefty bat, I think Tracy has an edge over Hoffpauir because he plays more positions. And, I think no matter how it shakes out, the Cubs are going to have a shitty bench.
And if Kevin Millar makes the team just to yuk it up with Ryan Dempster, I think I’m going to dig a hole in my yard and live in it until the Cubs are mathematically eliminated.
In June.
I feel like the Fontenot SS thing is just to give people/media something to talk about. Lou likes to give inane distractions for people to focus on. And Lou knows he’s pretty much stuck with Theriot so he might as well try and make him look good.
I agree with you on all points besides one – no manager wants two automatic outs in their lineup but many successful playoff type teams have done it. The 2003 Cubs’ formidable catching duo of Miller/Bako were defense minded yet automatic outs.
the cubs’ website says there is no time-table set for nady’s return and he even said he doesn’t know if he’ll be ready for opening day. i agree 100% with your bench, but i bet nady starts the year on the DL and fuld is on the roster until he gets healthy.
@Roberto I’m not saying teams don’t do it. I’m saying nobody wants to do it.
@Brian You realize all that does is delay the decision, not change it, right?
Hey, I signed a minor league contract. I know there’s not a snowball’s chance in Hell I’m going to make the big-league team. I’m just planning on coming to spring training so I can wear my new San Diego Chicken outfit and play practical jokes with Dempster. It’s all about the comedy, and being part of Mesa’s deal to keep the Cubs in Arizona for another 10 years.
Kevin Millar will make this team out of spring training. Don’t ask me how or why but somehow he will.
The good thing is that no one expects this team to win the division. Right now I would give the Reds and Brewers good odds to finish 2nd and 3rd over this team.
Maybe this is what we need our team to be before we can expect something good to happen past August.
Remember 2003?
I went to this absolute turd of a game June 20th
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN200306200.shtml(those with a memory for ridiculous events will know this as the game following the Farnsworth/Paul Wilson piledriver)
Shawn Estes treated fans to a first inning that featured 4 walks and a grand slam by Miguel Olivo. Ouch. After Estes started so well and the Cubs got a solo shot from Alex Gonzalez the first inning ended 6-1. Dusty then gave the ball to future Cardinal legend Todd Wellemeyer who managed to soften the blows by only allowing 6 more Sox runs scattered over 4 innings. Most Wrigley faithful were long gone by the time the stretch came around the score was 12-2.
In fact the highlights of the game for the fans in the bleachers took place in the actual bleachers. My personal favorite sign was a “MAGGLIO IS A MEATBALL” entry followed up by sign that Mark Buehrle saw and laughed at that said “AL CY YOUNG: MARK BUEHRLE 3-10 5.18 ERA”. Buehrle finished the season 14-14 with a 4.14 ERA. He might have pitched a decent game last year the guy who wrote that sign would probably love to have ignored too.
The real highlight of the game and possible foreshadowing of the end of Sosa’s career was when late in the game between pitching changes Sosa kept turning to the crowd trying to get a girl to flash her tits. He literally unbuttoned his jersey as to motion for her to do the same. She did. Sosa laughed. Fans cheered. Drunk chick kicked out. Fans riot. Drunk chick let back in.
Leaving this game and the one the next day that they lost in far less pathetic fashion(The previously mentioned Mark Buehrle lowered his ERA under 5.00 and picked up his 4th win on the season) my friends and I didn’t think the early season time the Cubs had spent at the top of the division was going to last. 3rd base was a mess and the rumors were that they were working on Mike Lowell to come over from Florida to save the day. It didn’t look like it was gonna happen so they shipped in Jose Hernandez to try and fix the Mark Bellhorn problem. Seemed more like a way to make a problem just have two bad solutions.
The catching was offensively woeful at best but for the most part they seemed to be holding together a young staff that no one really thought was gonna gel together this year. Borowski as the closer really didn’t inspire much confidence despite the fact that he had an ERA hovering around 2.00 in mid June still and had 15 saves.
We figured that maybe the team could hang around and make a 2001-esque effort at the playoffs and fall just short. But when this happened a few days later
” CHICAGO — Chicago Cubs center fielder Corey Patterson went on the 15-day disabled list Monday with a torn ligament in his left knee and will likely miss the rest of the season.
Patterson tore the ACL and cartilage in his left knee when he beat out an infield single in the eighth inning Sunday against the St. Louis Cardinals. He crossed the base and then dropped to the ground, rolling over and grabbing his knee while wincing in pain. ”
We pretty much just said that we were done. Patterson had finally got up to the bigs and was one of our most productive hitters during the first half and now along with no offense from 3B or Catcher and an aging Eric Karros(who was supposed to be backing up the wonderful Hee Seop Choi who after a slow start and collision to his dome from Kerry Wood was rotting away on the bench)and Grudzielanek at 2B. The offense looked to be pretty much Sosa and Alou hitting solo shots and Alex Gonzalez striking out 2000 times between his 20 HRs.
But Hendry’s magic with the Pirates happened and the team became a magical ride of luck and scrap towards the playoffs.
Opening Day lineup
Grudzielanek – 2B
A. Gonzalez – SS
S. Sosa – RF
M. Alou – LF
H. Choi – 1B
M. Bellhorn – 3B
C. Patterson – CF
D. Miller – C
K. Wood – SP
Here’s what it looked like July, 22nd
T. Goodwin – CF
M. Grudzielanek – 2B
S. Sosa – RF
M. Alou – LF
E. Karros – 1B
L. Harris – 3B
A. Gonzalez – SS
P. Bako – C
S. Mitre – P
Some dude named Greg Maddux didn’t have much trouble dusting off that lineup for a 8-4 win. The Cubs had sunk to 3rd place and were 4 and 1/2 games out at that point.
Oh and then Jim Hendry asked the Pirates if they wanted the kid from King of the Hill and Jose Hernandez back(im pretty sure he had played for them at least 2 or 3 times previously or in the future…like he had for most all teams in MLB during his career). In return they gave us king of the playoffs Kenny Lofton and a young power hitter with questionable defense in Aramis Ramirez. Also a guy that drops heavy liners into gaps and women in sausage races. How could you not like Randall Simon?
The patchwork lineup held up long enough to get a trade to make them a legitimate playoff capable team…and we all know how that went.
So Im not saying that this can or would ever happen this year but just remember we’ve have went into a season less hopeful and found a way to turn it around to something great. Unfortunately 2004,2005, and 2009 show us that going into a season with something that we think is better doesn’t get the job done period.
Right now if someone told me to settle in for a season that is a combination of 2004, 2007, and 2009 I wouldn’t be too disappointed. At least I will know to be disappointed in advance though.
You must not forget that Hoffpauir impresses every Spring Training. Theres a good chance he will put up impressive ST numbers and possibly make the opening day roster. Maybe even take Nady’s spot if he winds up on the DL, which I believe he will.
It will be interesting to see how Starlin Castro plays this spring. If he impresses, there may be some clamoring for him to take the SS job going north. Move Theriot to 2B and send Fontenot to Iowa where he belongs. May need Muskrat to explain the options/clock to me though.