Still sucks to be them. Come on Caleb.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 27, 2011, 08:15:53 AM
Still sucks to be them. Come on Caleb.
There are some not so nasty places in Oakland.
Oh great, Winter's the whitecap.
Expect around 12 holding and false start penalties today.
Quote from: CBStew on November 27, 2011, 02:31:27 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 27, 2011, 08:15:53 AM
Still sucks to be them. Come on Caleb.
There are some not so nasty places in Oakland.
I believe the natives call that place "San Francisco".
Thus far, HANIETIME has been underwhelming at best.
Quote from: CT III on November 27, 2011, 03:42:08 PM
Thus far, HANIETIME has been underwhelming at best.
The only thing that has been worse has been the officiating. Some absolutely horrible calls/non-calls so far.
Defense has been excellent so far.
Now THAT was a nice offensive drive.
Really hated the play call that led to the interception. The Bears simply should've been playing for a field goal and the lead there to add to Hanie and the offense's confidence. Instead, they call a way too cute backside screen and disaster happens. Just a terrible play call.
That's out of the way, so now the second half will be HANIETIME.
Quote from: BC on November 27, 2011, 04:37:46 PM
Really hated the play call that led to the interception. The Bears simply should've been playing for a field goal and the lead there to add to Hanie and the offense's confidence. Instead, they call a way too cute backside screen and disaster happens. Just a terrible play call.
Because it didn't work.
Quote from: Slaky on November 27, 2011, 04:45:47 PM
Quote from: BC on November 27, 2011, 04:37:46 PM
Really hated the play call that led to the interception. The Bears simply should've been playing for a field goal and the lead there to add to Hanie and the offense's confidence. Instead, they call a way too cute backside screen and disaster happens. Just a terrible play call.
Because it didn't work.
I'm inclined to agree with BC on this one. That seemed like an asinine play call in that situation for a QB in his first NFL start who'd already thrown a pair of INTs in the half. After the fact, of course. But still...
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 27, 2011, 04:50:52 PM
Quote from: Slaky on November 27, 2011, 04:45:47 PM
Quote from: BC on November 27, 2011, 04:37:46 PM
Really hated the play call that led to the interception. The Bears simply should've been playing for a field goal and the lead there to add to Hanie and the offense's confidence. Instead, they call a way too cute backside screen and disaster happens. Just a terrible play call.
Because it didn't work.
I'm inclined to agree with BC on this one. That seemed like an asinine play call in that situation for a QB in his first NFL start who'd already thrown a pair of INTs in the half. After the fact, of course. But still...
And those officials! Pee-you!
At least they finally called an obvious holding, unlike the first four they missed in the first quarter.
Quote from: BC on November 27, 2011, 05:23:10 PM
At least they finally called an obvious holding, unlike the first four they missed in the first quarter.
Gophers!
Quote from: Slaky on November 27, 2011, 05:11:58 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 27, 2011, 04:50:52 PM
Quote from: Slaky on November 27, 2011, 04:45:47 PM
Quote from: BC on November 27, 2011, 04:37:46 PM
Really hated the play call that led to the interception. The Bears simply should've been playing for a field goal and the lead there to add to Hanie and the offense's confidence. Instead, they call a way too cute backside screen and disaster happens. Just a terrible play call.
Because it didn't work.
I'm inclined to agree with BC on this one. That seemed like an asinine play call in that situation for a QB in his first NFL start who'd already thrown a pair of INTs in the half. After the fact, of course. But still...
And those officials! Pee-you!
So you
didn't think that asking Hanie to blindly throw back across his body into the teeth of a screen on 2nd and 1 inside the red zone in a 9-7 game (after he had already thrown two interceptions earlier in the half) was a questionable decision (and utterly typical of Mike Martz's trademark trying-too-hard)?
I'm not trying to excuse Hanie of blame by any means. He threw that ball. But that was just an unnecessary call in that situation.
DEY WOOD DA WON IF THEY HAD PLAYED ONE OF DEM MCNOWN OR ENTERLY GUYS MY FRENT.
Offense: Caleb Hanie was terrible throughout the game. He threw two interceptions early and it set the tone for the game. I believe it was the second drive, Hanie ran about 12 yards for a first down. Then, Tyler fucking Clutts gets called for an unsportsmanlike penalty that pushes the Bears back. Why are some of these players so fucking stupid? Then when it looked like he was getting in a groove, Mike Martz fucks everything up when the Bears had a 2nd and 1 in the red zone by having Hanie run a play that Cutler has tried to run to no success. I don't even know what the play is called but it involves the quarterback running to one side of the field and then trying to throw it across to the other side. STOP RUNNING THAT PLAY. IT NEVER WORKS YOU STUPID FUCK. That play in my opinion decided this game. But just to make matters worse, instead of just spiking the ball, Hanie thinks he can just wait a few seconds and then throw the ball into the ground. FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! It also didn't help that the running game couldn't really get going. Also, Johnny Knox and Matt Forte each dropped a couple passes. HANG ON TO THE FUCKING BALL.
Defense: I do not care if the Bears' defense forced the Raiders to kick six field goals. The fact that they gave up huge plays all day that lead to those field goals are unacceptable. Then on the drive that the Raiders scored a touchdown on, Tim Jennings was beat terribly on a 47 yard reception by Lewis fucking Murphy that eventually lead to that score.
Special Teams: Robbie Gould hit two field goals. That was about it. Also, why in every fucking game is there at least one holding or illegal block in the back penalty by the Bears' special teams? Chris fucking Steltz was called for one today. STOP DOING THAT. You have to give credit to Raiders' punted Shane Lechler and kicker Sebastian Janikowski. The Bears had shitty field position all day and Hester couldn't do shit.
Here are the Bears sitting at 7-4 with the Chiefs coming up next week at home. Not counting the eventual loss against the Packers on Christmas Day, the Bears must win three out of the four games they have to make the playoffs. I no longer will be counting on that but rather, rooting for the teams that are competing for a Wild Card spot to lose. However we put it, Caleb Hanie is the only option for the Bears. Now, I don't feel so good.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on November 27, 2011, 07:38:07 PM
Defense: I do not care if the Bears' defense forced the Raiders to kick six field goals. The fact that they gave up huge plays all day that lead to those field goals are unacceptable. Then on the drive that the Raiders scored a touchdown on, Tim Jennings was beat terribly on a 47 yard reception by Lewis fucking Murphy that eventually lead to that score.
Jennings also just flat out dropped a ready-made interception. Someone else also could've had an INT, albeit on a harder to catch ball, but they couldn't come up with the pick.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on November 27, 2011, 07:38:07 PM
Offense: Caleb Hanie was terrible throughout the game. He threw two interceptions early and it set the tone for the game. I believe it was the second drive, Hanie ran about 12 yards for a first down. Then, Tyler fucking Clutts gets called for an unsportsmanlike penalty that pushes the Bears back. Why are some of these players so fucking stupid? Then when it looked like he was getting in a groove, Mike Martz fucks everything up when the Bears had a 2nd and 1 in the red zone by having Hanie run a play that Cutler has tried to run to no success. I don't even know what the play is called but it involves the quarterback running to one side of the field and then trying to throw it across to the other side. STOP RUNNING THAT PLAY. IT NEVER WORKS YOU STUPID FUCK. That play in my opinion decided this game. But just to make matters worse, instead of just spiking the ball, Hanie thinks he can just wait a few seconds and then throw the ball into the ground. FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! It also didn't help that the running game couldn't really get going. Also, Johnny Knox and Matt Forte each dropped a couple passes. HANG ON TO THE FUCKING BALL.
Defense: I do not care if the Bears' defense forced the Raiders to kick six field goals. The fact that they gave up huge plays all day that lead to those field goals are unacceptable. Then on the drive that the Raiders scored a touchdown on, Tim Jennings was beat terribly on a 47 yard reception by Lewis fucking Murphy that eventually lead to that score.
Special Teams: Robbie Gould hit two field goals. That was about it. Also, why in every fucking game is there at least one holding or illegal block in the back penalty by the Bears' special teams? Chris fucking Steltz was called for one today. STOP DOING THAT. You have to give credit to Raiders' punted Shane Lechler and kicker Sebastian Janikowski. The Bears had shitty field position all day and Hester couldn't do shit.
Here are the Bears sitting at 7-4 with the Chiefs coming up next week at home. Not counting the eventual loss against the Packers on Christmas Day, the Bears must win three out of the four games they have to make the playoffs. I no longer will be counting on that but rather, rooting for the teams that are competing for a Wild Card spot to lose. However we put it, Caleb Hanie is the only option for the Bears. Now, I don't feel so good.
TL;DR
Anyone know the average starting field position for both teams? I checked 2 sources and got lazy. HELP
Quote from: Slaky on November 27, 2011, 07:58:00 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on November 27, 2011, 07:38:07 PM
Offense: Caleb Hanie was terrible throughout the game. He threw two interceptions early and it set the tone for the game. I believe it was the second drive, Hanie ran about 12 yards for a first down. Then, Tyler fucking Clutts gets called for an unsportsmanlike penalty that pushes the Bears back. Why are some of these players so fucking stupid? Then when it looked like he was getting in a groove, Mike Martz fucks everything up when the Bears had a 2nd and 1 in the red zone by having Hanie run a play that Cutler has tried to run to no success. I don't even know what the play is called but it involves the quarterback running to one side of the field and then trying to throw it across to the other side. STOP RUNNING THAT PLAY. IT NEVER WORKS YOU STUPID FUCK. That play in my opinion decided this game. But just to make matters worse, instead of just spiking the ball, Hanie thinks he can just wait a few seconds and then throw the ball into the ground. FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! It also didn't help that the running game couldn't really get going. Also, Johnny Knox and Matt Forte each dropped a couple passes. HANG ON TO THE FUCKING BALL.
Defense: I do not care if the Bears' defense forced the Raiders to kick six field goals. The fact that they gave up huge plays all day that lead to those field goals are unacceptable. Then on the drive that the Raiders scored a touchdown on, Tim Jennings was beat terribly on a 47 yard reception by Lewis fucking Murphy that eventually lead to that score.
Special Teams: Robbie Gould hit two field goals. That was about it. Also, why in every fucking game is there at least one holding or illegal block in the back penalty by the Bears' special teams? Chris fucking Steltz was called for one today. STOP DOING THAT. You have to give credit to Raiders' punted Shane Lechler and kicker Sebastian Janikowski. The Bears had shitty field position all day and Hester couldn't do shit.
Here are the Bears sitting at 7-4 with the Chiefs coming up next week at home. Not counting the eventual loss against the Packers on Christmas Day, the Bears must win three out of the four games they have to make the playoffs. I no longer will be counting on that but rather, rooting for the teams that are competing for a Wild Card spot to lose. However we put it, Caleb Hanie is the only option for the Bears. Now, I don't feel so good.
TL;DR
tl;dr Tim Jennings (Fuck you)
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on November 27, 2011, 08:16:21 PM
Anyone know the average starting field position for both teams? I checked 2 sources and got lazy. HELP
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore?gid=20111127013&page=drives
Bears Raiders
CHI 18 OAK 29
CHI 23 OAK 25
CHI 16 CHI 31
CHI 18 OAK 43
CHI 3 50
CHI 26 OAK 20
OAK 35 OAK 21
CHI 20 OAK 20
CHI 17 OAK 34
CHI 18 OAK 38
CHI 20 OAK 20
CHI 16 OAK 26
CHI 4 OAK 46By my reckoning, that'd work out to...
Mean
CHI 20.3
OAK 33.9
Median
CHI 18
OAK 29
I'm pretty sure the official definition of intentional grounding involves a QB intentionally throwing an incomplete pass to avoid a sack. Which means that it was a horseshit call. Another good game by the O-Line. That play before the half was just atrocious. But we have the fighting Ortons and fighting Tebows on the docket next. I'll only be worried if we have to win in Minnesota in week 17.
Quote from: HumbleJerry on November 27, 2011, 11:21:06 PM
I'm pretty sure the official definition of intentional grounding involves a QB intentionally throwing an incomplete pass to avoid a sack. Which means that it was a horseshit call. Another good game by the O-Line. That play before the half was just atrocious. But we have the fighting Ortons and fighting Tebows on the docket next. I'll only be worried if we have to win in Minnesota in week 17.
To stop the clock, you have to spike it immediately after the snap (http://twitter.com/#!/MikePereira/status/140950137563381760). Not take the snap, take a few steps back, look around the field, then finally spike it. Otherwise you're forcing officials to make judgment calls whether he meant to spike or ground it.
Quote from: HumbleJerry on November 27, 2011, 11:21:06 PM
I'm pretty sure the official definition of intentional grounding involves a QB intentionally throwing an incomplete pass to avoid a sack. Which means that it was a horseshit call. Another good game by the O-Line. That play before the half was just atrocious. But we have the fighting Ortons and fighting Tebows on the docket next. I'll only be worried if we have to win in Minnesota in week 17.
http://www.blogandtackle.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/2011NFLRuleBook.pdf
Rule 8, Section 2, Article 1, Items 3 and 4 (see page 46)...
QuoteSection 2 Intentional Grounding
DEFINITION
Article 1 Definition. It is a foul for intentional grounding if a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage because of pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion. A realistic chance of completion is defined as a pass that lands in the direction and the vicinity of an originally eligible receiver.
Item 1: Passer or Ball Outside Tackle Position. Intentional grounding will not be called when a passer, who is outside, or has been outside, the tackle position throws a forward pass that lands at or beyond the line of scrimmage, even if no offensive player(s) have a realistic chance to catch the ball (including when the ball lands out of bounds over the sideline or endline). If a loose ball leaves the area bordered by the tackles, this area no longer exists; if the ball is recovered, all intentional grounding rules apply as if the passer is outside this area.
Item 2: Physical Contact. Intentional grounding should not be called if:
(a) the passer initiates his passing motion toward an eligible receiver and then is significantly affected by physical contact from a defensive player that causes the pass to land in an area that is not in the direction and vicinity of an eligible receiver; or
(b) the passer is out of the pocket, and his passing motion is significantly affected by physical contact from a defensive player that causes the ball to land short of the line of scrimmage.
Item 3: Stopping Clock. A player under center is permitted to stop the game clock legally to save time if, immediately upon receiving the snap, he begins a continuous throwing motion and throws the ball directly into the ground.
Item 4: Delayed Spike. A passer, after delaying his passing action for strategic purposes, is prohibited from throwing the ball to the ground in front of him, even though he is under no pressure from defensive rusher(s).
Penalty:
For intentional grounding:
(a) loss of down and 10 yards from the previous spot; or
(b) loss of down at the spot of the foul; or
(c) if the passer is in his end zone when the ball is thrown, it is a safety. See 4-7-1 for actions to conserve time inside one minute of either half.
As for the 10-second run-off, see Rule 4, Section 7, Article 1 (b) on page 20...
QuoteSection 7 Actions to Conserve Time
ILLEGAL ACTS
Article 1 A team is not permitted to conserve time inside of one minute of either half by committing any of the following acts:
(a) a foul by either team that prevents the snap (i.e., false start, encroachment, etc.)
(b) intentional grounding;
(c) an illegal forward pass thrown from beyond the line of scrimmage;
(d) throwing a backward pass out of bounds;
(e) spiking or throwing the ball in the field of play after a down has ended, except after a touchdown; or
(f) any other intentional foul that causes the clock to stop.
Penalty: For Illegally Conserving Time: Loss of five yards unless a larger distance penalty is applicable.
When actions referred to above are committed by the offensive team while time is in, officials will run 10 seconds off the game clock before permitting the ball to be put in play on the ready-for-play signal. The game clock will start on the ready-for-play signal. If the offensive team has timeouts remaining, it will have the option of using a timeout in lieu of a 10-second runoff, in which case the game clock will start on the snap after the timeout. The defense always has the option to decline the 10-second runoff and have the yardage penalty enforced, but if the yardage penalty is declined, the 10-second runoff is also declined.
If the action is by the defense, the play clock will be reset to 40 seconds, and the game clock will start on the ready signal, unless the offense chooses to have the clock start on the snap. If the defense has timeouts remaining, it will have the option of using a timeout in lieu of the game clock being started.
I'd prefer that the NFL be like college and stop the clock after first downs.. if its not for the whole game, then maybe last 5 minutes of game (/half).
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on November 28, 2011, 06:41:11 AM
I'd prefer that the NFL be like college and stop the clock after first downs.. if its not for the whole game, then maybe last 5 minutes of game (/half).
No, that sucks.
It doesn't suck to have the game held up by the less in shape referees and/or chain gang?
Quote from: BC on November 27, 2011, 03:45:01 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 27, 2011, 03:42:08 PM
Thus far, HANIETIME has been underwhelming at best.
The only thing that has been worse has been the officiating. Some absolutely horrible calls/non-calls so far.
BC Bot.
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on November 28, 2011, 08:56:15 AM
It sucks to have the game held up by the less in shape referees and/or chain gang?
Everything about college athletics sucks from the average/terrible quality of play to the raping of kids that seems to go on all over the place.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 27, 2011, 07:09:05 PM
Quote from: Slaky on November 27, 2011, 05:11:58 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 27, 2011, 04:50:52 PM
Quote from: Slaky on November 27, 2011, 04:45:47 PM
Quote from: BC on November 27, 2011, 04:37:46 PM
Really hated the play call that led to the interception. The Bears simply should've been playing for a field goal and the lead there to add to Hanie and the offense's confidence. Instead, they call a way too cute backside screen and disaster happens. Just a terrible play call.
Because it didn't work.
I'm inclined to agree with BC on this one. That seemed like an asinine play call in that situation for a QB in his first NFL start who'd already thrown a pair of INTs in the half. After the fact, of course. But still...
And those officials! Pee-you!
So you didn't think that asking Hanie to blindly throw back across his body into the teeth of a screen on 2nd and 1 inside the red zone in a 9-7 game (after he had already thrown two interceptions earlier in the half) was a questionable decision (and utterly typical of Mike Martz's trademark trying-too-hard)?
I'm not trying to excuse Hanie of blame by any means. He threw that ball. But that was just an unnecessary call in that situation.
Yeah, BC posted accurately for the first time in ever. Forego the cutesy bullshit, run the ball a couple times, kick the field goal, and baby, you got you a victory stew goin.
Quote from: Slaky on November 28, 2011, 09:13:02 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on November 28, 2011, 08:56:15 AM
It sucks to have the game held up by the less in shape referees and/or chain gang?
Everything about college athletics sucks from the average/terrible quality of play to the raping of kids that seems to go on all over the place.
They gave us The Tim Tebow Experience. Well, maybe God did, cause he created Tim, but also created college ball... Or something.
Moral: God is great. Tim is good. People are crazy
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on November 28, 2011, 09:17:40 AM
Quote from: Slaky on November 28, 2011, 09:13:02 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on November 28, 2011, 08:56:15 AM
It sucks to have the game held up by the less in shape referees and/or chain gang?
Everything about college athletics sucks from the average/terrible quality of play to the raping of kids that seems to go on all over the place.
They gave us The Tim Tebow Experience. Well, maybe God did, cause he created Tim, but also created college ball... Or something.
Moral: God is great. Tim is good. People are crazy
I wanted the Broncos to win yesterday for my pool, but when I saw Tebow praying on the sideline ahead of their OT field goal try, I so wanted a sudden gust of wind to knock that fucking ball sideways.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 28, 2011, 09:27:12 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on November 28, 2011, 09:17:40 AM
Quote from: Slaky on November 28, 2011, 09:13:02 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on November 28, 2011, 08:56:15 AM
It sucks to have the game held up by the less in shape referees and/or chain gang?
Everything about college athletics sucks from the average/terrible quality of play to the raping of kids that seems to go on all over the place.
They gave us The Tim Tebow Experience. Well, maybe God did, cause he created Tim, but also created college ball... Or something.
Moral: God is great. Tim is good. People are crazy
I wanted the Broncos to win yesterday for my pool, but when I saw Tebow praying on the sideline ahead of their OT field goal try, I so wanted a sudden gust of wind to knock that fucking ball sideways.
Did you think about praying for it?
Quote from: Brownie on November 28, 2011, 09:56:50 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 28, 2011, 09:27:12 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on November 28, 2011, 09:17:40 AM
Quote from: Slaky on November 28, 2011, 09:13:02 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on November 28, 2011, 08:56:15 AM
It sucks to have the game held up by the less in shape referees and/or chain gang?
Everything about college athletics sucks from the average/terrible quality of play to the raping of kids that seems to go on all over the place.
They gave us The Tim Tebow Experience. Well, maybe God did, cause he created Tim, but also created college ball... Or something.
Moral: God is great. Tim is good. People are crazy
I wanted the Broncos to win yesterday for my pool, but when I saw Tebow praying on the sideline ahead of their OT field goal try, I so wanted a sudden gust of wind to knock that fucking ball sideways.
Did you think about praying for it?
Didn't God also create the Broncos defense which has surrendered 24, 10, 13 and 13 points during this 4-game miracle streak? Or did Tim do that?
We're not Seahawks fans. Hanie was the idiot, not the refs, not the rulemakers.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 28, 2011, 10:40:57 AM
We're not Seahawks fans. Hanie was the idiot, not the refs, not the rulemakers.
What conversation are you reading?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 28, 2011, 10:44:47 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 28, 2011, 10:40:57 AM
We're not Seahawks fans. Hanie was the idiot, not the refs, not the rulemakers.
What conversation are you reading?
Yeah, you misspelled "Lions" too.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 28, 2011, 10:44:47 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 28, 2011, 10:40:57 AM
We're not Seahawks fans. Hanie was the idiot, not the refs, not the rulemakers.
What conversation are you reading?
Those complaining about the rules and suggesting adopting college rules instead. Not all here, necessarily, but I don't want to argue on Bookface, so, here we are.
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 28, 2011, 10:53:50 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 28, 2011, 10:44:47 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 28, 2011, 10:40:57 AM
We're not Seahawks fans. Hanie was the idiot, not the refs, not the rulemakers.
What conversation are you reading?
Yeah, you misspelled "Lions" too.
Week One, the Super Bowl, what's the difference?
Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 28, 2011, 10:56:11 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 28, 2011, 10:44:47 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 28, 2011, 10:40:57 AM
We're not Seahawks fans. Hanie was the idiot, not the refs, not the rulemakers.
What conversation are you reading?
Those complaining about the rules and suggesting adopting college rules instead. Not all here, necessarily, but I don't want to argue on Bookface, so, here we are.
Don't you have some random GIF that would suffice here?
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 28, 2011, 11:02:38 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 28, 2011, 10:56:11 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 28, 2011, 10:44:47 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 28, 2011, 10:40:57 AM
We're not Seahawks fans. Hanie was the idiot, not the refs, not the rulemakers.
What conversation are you reading?
Those complaining about the rules and suggesting adopting college rules instead. Not all here, necessarily, but I don't want to argue on Bookface, so, here we are.
Don't you have some random GIF that would suffice here?
(http://cdn.wg.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/annie-run1.gif) ???
Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 28, 2011, 11:01:05 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 28, 2011, 10:53:50 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 28, 2011, 10:44:47 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on November 28, 2011, 10:40:57 AM
We're not Seahawks fans. Hanie was the idiot, not the refs, not the rulemakers.
What conversation are you reading?
Yeah, you misspelled "Lions" too.
Week One, the Super Bowl, what's the difference?
As a Steelers fan, I approve of this.
(http://i.imgur.com/8tJA8.png)
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 28, 2011, 03:37:44 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/8tJA8.png)
Is he cross-eyed?
Because that might explain the 3 picks.
Quote from: PenPho on November 28, 2011, 03:59:26 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 28, 2011, 03:37:44 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/8tJA8.png)
Is he cross-eyed?
Because that might explain the 3 picks.
That's the same face I make when I'm shitting.
The producer should be fired for not including "one ass-grazing" as part of that graphic.
Headline in the Sun-Times:
"Backup QB Caleb Hanie should be better the next time around"
You mean there was a possiblity that he could get worse?
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times:
"Backup QB Caleb Hanie should be better the next time around"
You mean there was a possiblity that he could get worse?
Sure. As bad as it was, that performance probably ranked in the top 100 non-Cutler-McMahon-Luckman starts in Bears history. In fact, I'm sure of it. Let me "crunch" the numbers and not get back to you later.
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 01, 2011, 10:54:38 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times:
"Backup QB Caleb Hanie should be better the next time around"
You mean there was a possiblity that he could get worse?
Sure. As bad as it was, that performance probably ranked in the top 100 non-Cutler-McMahon-Luckman starts in Bears history. In fact, I'm sure of it. Let me "crunch" the numbers and not get back to you later.
Most of that list is populated by Jim Miller/Steve Walsh/Erik Kramer
Quote from: Slaky on December 01, 2011, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 01, 2011, 10:54:38 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times:
"Backup QB Caleb Hanie should be better the next time around"
You mean there was a possiblity that he could get worse?
Sure. As bad as it was, that performance probably ranked in the top 100 non-Cutler-McMahon-Luckman starts in Bears history. In fact, I'm sure of it. Let me "crunch" the numbers and not get back to you later.
Most of that list is populated by Jim Miller/Steve Walsh/Erik Kramer
Grossman's start to 2006 is in there as well. I think Caleb is going to be a fine NFL quarterback some day. The problem is that this team isn't exactly in "hey, let's see what this kid can do" mode.
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2011, 04:59:36 PM
Quote from: Slaky on December 01, 2011, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 01, 2011, 10:54:38 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times:
"Backup QB Caleb Hanie should be better the next time around"
You mean there was a possiblity that he could get worse?
Sure. As bad as it was, that performance probably ranked in the top 100 non-Cutler-McMahon-Luckman starts in Bears history. In fact, I'm sure of it. Let me "crunch" the numbers and not get back to you later.
Most of that list is populated by Jim Miller/Steve Walsh/Erik Kramer
Grossman's start to 2006 is in there as well. I think Caleb is going to be a fine NFL quarterback some day. The problem is that this team isn't exactly in "hey, let's see what this kid can do" mode.
We get it. You've turned into a ledge-jumping, shrieking vajayjay over the Bears.
Quote from: PANK! on December 01, 2011, 05:07:39 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2011, 04:59:36 PM
Quote from: Slaky on December 01, 2011, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 01, 2011, 10:54:38 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times:
"Backup QB Caleb Hanie should be better the next time around"
You mean there was a possiblity that he could get worse?
Sure. As bad as it was, that performance probably ranked in the top 100 non-Cutler-McMahon-Luckman starts in Bears history. In fact, I'm sure of it. Let me "crunch" the numbers and not get back to you later.
Most of that list is populated by Jim Miller/Steve Walsh/Erik Kramer
Grossman's start to 2006 is in there as well. I think Caleb is going to be a fine NFL quarterback some day. The problem is that this team isn't exactly in "hey, let's see what this kid can do" mode.
We get it. You've turned into a ledge-jumping, shrieking vajayjay over the Bears.
If you're comfortable with things the way they are, more power to you. I'm just concerned about the long term window here if Jay isn't coming back, because frankly a wildcard and a quick exit would be pretty disappointing for me based on my expectations for this team.
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2011, 06:45:46 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 01, 2011, 05:07:39 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2011, 04:59:36 PM
Quote from: Slaky on December 01, 2011, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 01, 2011, 10:54:38 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times:
"Backup QB Caleb Hanie should be better the next time around"
You mean there was a possiblity that he could get worse?
Sure. As bad as it was, that performance probably ranked in the top 100 non-Cutler-McMahon-Luckman starts in Bears history. In fact, I'm sure of it. Let me "crunch" the numbers and not get back to you later.
Most of that list is populated by Jim Miller/Steve Walsh/Erik Kramer
Grossman's start to 2006 is in there as well. I think Caleb is going to be a fine NFL quarterback some day. The problem is that this team isn't exactly in "hey, let's see what this kid can do" mode.
We get it. You've turned into a ledge-jumping, shrieking vajayjay over the Bears.
If you're comfortable with things the way they are, more power to you. I'm just concerned about the long term window here if Jay isn't coming back, because frankly a wildcard and a quick exit would be pretty disappointing for me based on my expectations for this team.
If Cutler's done for the season then I'm with you. I'm clinging to the notion, though, that the Bears squeak out 3 wins with Hanie and Cutler comes back to whup some ass in January. It's all I got.
Quote from: PANK! on December 01, 2011, 09:03:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2011, 06:45:46 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 01, 2011, 05:07:39 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2011, 04:59:36 PM
Quote from: Slaky on December 01, 2011, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 01, 2011, 10:54:38 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times:
"Backup QB Caleb Hanie should be better the next time around"
You mean there was a possiblity that he could get worse?
Sure. As bad as it was, that performance probably ranked in the top 100 non-Cutler-McMahon-Luckman starts in Bears history. In fact, I'm sure of it. Let me "crunch" the numbers and not get back to you later.
Most of that list is populated by Jim Miller/Steve Walsh/Erik Kramer
Grossman's start to 2006 is in there as well. I think Caleb is going to be a fine NFL quarterback some day. The problem is that this team isn't exactly in "hey, let's see what this kid can do" mode.
We get it. You've turned into a ledge-jumping, shrieking vajayjay over the Bears.
If you're comfortable with things the way they are, more power to you. I'm just concerned about the long term window here if Jay isn't coming back, because frankly a wildcard and a quick exit would be pretty disappointing for me based on my expectations for this team.
If Cutler's done for the season then I'm with you. I'm clinging to the notion, though, that the Bears squeak out 3 wins with Hanie and Cutler comes back to whup some ass in January. It's all I got.
And I'm having a hard time clinging to the facade of optimism until I see him take the field with my own eyes.
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2011, 06:45:46 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 01, 2011, 05:07:39 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2011, 04:59:36 PM
Quote from: Slaky on December 01, 2011, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 01, 2011, 10:54:38 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times:
"Backup QB Caleb Hanie should be better the next time around"
You mean there was a possiblity that he could get worse?
Sure. As bad as it was, that performance probably ranked in the top 100 non-Cutler-McMahon-Luckman starts in Bears history. In fact, I'm sure of it. Let me "crunch" the numbers and not get back to you later.
Most of that list is populated by Jim Miller/Steve Walsh/Erik Kramer
Grossman's start to 2006 is in there as well. I think Caleb is going to be a fine NFL quarterback some day. The problem is that this team isn't exactly in "hey, let's see what this kid can do" mode.
We get it. You've turned into a ledge-jumping, shrieking vajayjay over the Bears.
If you're comfortable with things the way they are, more power to you. I'm just concerned about the long term window here if Jay isn't coming back, because frankly a wildcard and a quick exit would be pretty disappointing for me based on my expectations for this team.
Having expectations for this team in the post-season given the team that's a few hundred miles up the lake is just silly. Barring an injury to Rodgers, the only place the Packers are losing is the Super Bowl.
I hate saying this, but the Pack looks as good as the Montana-led 49ers, which is the best team I've seen in my lifetime. It doesn't really matter a. whether the Bears make the playoffs or not, or b. when the Bears lose in the playoffs, because the NFC Championship game is a foregone conclusion, at least as of this day. Who cares if they get one more playoff win or not?
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 02, 2011, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2011, 06:45:46 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 01, 2011, 05:07:39 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2011, 04:59:36 PM
Quote from: Slaky on December 01, 2011, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 01, 2011, 10:54:38 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times:
"Backup QB Caleb Hanie should be better the next time around"
You mean there was a possiblity that he could get worse?
Sure. As bad as it was, that performance probably ranked in the top 100 non-Cutler-McMahon-Luckman starts in Bears history. In fact, I'm sure of it. Let me "crunch" the numbers and not get back to you later.
Most of that list is populated by Jim Miller/Steve Walsh/Erik Kramer
Grossman's start to 2006 is in there as well. I think Caleb is going to be a fine NFL quarterback some day. The problem is that this team isn't exactly in "hey, let's see what this kid can do" mode.
We get it. You've turned into a ledge-jumping, shrieking vajayjay over the Bears.
If you're comfortable with things the way they are, more power to you. I'm just concerned about the long term window here if Jay isn't coming back, because frankly a wildcard and a quick exit would be pretty disappointing for me based on my expectations for this team.
Having expectations for this team in the post-season given the team that's a few hundred miles up the lake is just silly. Barring an injury to Rodgers, the only place the Packers are losing is the Super Bowl.
I hate saying this, but the Pack looks as good as the Montana-led 49ers, which is the best team I've seen in my lifetime. It doesn't really matter a. whether the Bears make the playoffs or not, or b. when the Bears lose in the playoffs, because the NFC Championship game is a foregone conclusion, at least as of this day. Who cares if they get one more playoff win or not?
Exactly. And the Montana-led 49ers won literally every Superbowl and every NFC title every year of his career, so why even bother assuming that it's possible someone could topple the 1 seed with the great quarterback and the shitty pass defense? Not like it happened to New England last year or anything.
Quote from: SKO on December 02, 2011, 02:46:00 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 02, 2011, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2011, 06:45:46 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 01, 2011, 05:07:39 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2011, 04:59:36 PM
Quote from: Slaky on December 01, 2011, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 01, 2011, 10:54:38 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times:
"Backup QB Caleb Hanie should be better the next time around"
You mean there was a possiblity that he could get worse?
Sure. As bad as it was, that performance probably ranked in the top 100 non-Cutler-McMahon-Luckman starts in Bears history. In fact, I'm sure of it. Let me "crunch" the numbers and not get back to you later.
Most of that list is populated by Jim Miller/Steve Walsh/Erik Kramer
Grossman's start to 2006 is in there as well. I think Caleb is going to be a fine NFL quarterback some day. The problem is that this team isn't exactly in "hey, let's see what this kid can do" mode.
We get it. You've turned into a ledge-jumping, shrieking vajayjay over the Bears.
If you're comfortable with things the way they are, more power to you. I'm just concerned about the long term window here if Jay isn't coming back, because frankly a wildcard and a quick exit would be pretty disappointing for me based on my expectations for this team.
Having expectations for this team in the post-season given the team that's a few hundred miles up the lake is just silly. Barring an injury to Rodgers, the only place the Packers are losing is the Super Bowl.
I hate saying this, but the Pack looks as good as the Montana-led 49ers, which is the best team I've seen in my lifetime. It doesn't really matter a. whether the Bears make the playoffs or not, or b. when the Bears lose in the playoffs, because the NFC Championship game is a foregone conclusion, at least as of this day. Who cares if they get one more playoff win or not?
Exactly. And the Montana-led 49ers won literally every Superbowl and every NFC title every year of his career, so why even bother assuming that it's possible someone could topple the 1 seed with the great quarterback and the shitty pass defense? Not like it happened to New England last year or anything.
And the Joe Montana-Niners destroyed every team in the NFC Championship. In 1982, the Cowboys had no chance -- NONE -- of winning. It was a blowout, right? In 1984, the defeated Bears weren't missing their starting quarterback or anything, correct? Then in 1987, when the 49ers were the hottest team in December, nobody (except for the wild card Vikings) beat them in the playoffs, is that also accurate? Then in 1988, that was an awesome Forty-Niner team. No one beat them in the regular season, except of course six teams, including the Phoenix Cardinals. They also lost 10-9 to the Bears on Monday night. Now, of course THOSE Bears had the services of Richard Dent, Jim McMahon, the entire secondary, and so forth. The Bears they face in the NFC title game did not have Dent nor McMahon.
Then in 1989, those were tremendous teams the Niners faced in the playoffs, especially those LA Rams. In 1990, the 49ers three-peated as Fork's Giants instead decided to go hang out in a Newark crackhouse with LT rather than fly to the 'Stick and play that juggernaut. After all, those G-men had a shittier backup QB than Caleb Hainie, if it matters.
Then Joe Montana went to Kansas City, a la Wilbert Harrison (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8tZO97uhyE) and Kyle Orton. And it was safe to be a 49er-hating football fan again.
Quote from: Brownie on December 02, 2011, 03:44:41 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 02, 2011, 02:46:00 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 02, 2011, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2011, 06:45:46 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 01, 2011, 05:07:39 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2011, 04:59:36 PM
Quote from: Slaky on December 01, 2011, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 01, 2011, 10:54:38 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times:
"Backup QB Caleb Hanie should be better the next time around"
You mean there was a possiblity that he could get worse?
Sure. As bad as it was, that performance probably ranked in the top 100 non-Cutler-McMahon-Luckman starts in Bears history. In fact, I'm sure of it. Let me "crunch" the numbers and not get back to you later.
Most of that list is populated by Jim Miller/Steve Walsh/Erik Kramer
Grossman's start to 2006 is in there as well. I think Caleb is going to be a fine NFL quarterback some day. The problem is that this team isn't exactly in "hey, let's see what this kid can do" mode.
We get it. You've turned into a ledge-jumping, shrieking vajayjay over the Bears.
If you're comfortable with things the way they are, more power to you. I'm just concerned about the long term window here if Jay isn't coming back, because frankly a wildcard and a quick exit would be pretty disappointing for me based on my expectations for this team.
Having expectations for this team in the post-season given the team that's a few hundred miles up the lake is just silly. Barring an injury to Rodgers, the only place the Packers are losing is the Super Bowl.
I hate saying this, but the Pack looks as good as the Montana-led 49ers, which is the best team I've seen in my lifetime. It doesn't really matter a. whether the Bears make the playoffs or not, or b. when the Bears lose in the playoffs, because the NFC Championship game is a foregone conclusion, at least as of this day. Who cares if they get one more playoff win or not?
Exactly. And the Montana-led 49ers won literally every Superbowl and every NFC title every year of his career, so why even bother assuming that it's possible someone could topple the 1 seed with the great quarterback and the shitty pass defense? Not like it happened to New England last year or anything.
And the Joe Montana-Niners destroyed every team in the NFC Championship. In 1982, the Cowboys had no chance -- NONE -- of winning. It was a blowout, right? In 1984, the defeated Bears weren't missing their starting quarterback or anything, correct? Then in 1987, when the 49ers were the hottest team in December, nobody (except for the wild card Vikings) beat them in the playoffs, is that also accurate? Then in 1988, that was an awesome Forty-Niner team. No one beat them in the regular season, except of course six teams, including the Phoenix Cardinals. They also lost 10-9 to the Bears on Monday night. Now, of course THOSE Bears had the services of Richard Dent, Jim McMahon, the entire secondary, and so forth. The Bears they face in the NFC title game did not have Dent nor McMahon.
Then in 1989, those were tremendous teams the Niners faced in the playoffs, especially those LA Rams. In 1990, the 49ers three-peated as Fork's Giants instead decided to go hang out in a Newark crackhouse with LT rather than fly to the 'Stick and play that juggernaut. After all, those G-men had a shittier backup QB than Caleb Hainie, if it matters.
Then Joe Montana went to Kansas City, a la Wilbert Harrison (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8tZO97uhyE) and Kyle Orton. And it was safe to be a 49er-hating football fan again.
Did you just say
The Hos was worse than Hanie?
Quote from: Brownie on December 02, 2011, 03:44:41 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 02, 2011, 02:46:00 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 02, 2011, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2011, 06:45:46 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 01, 2011, 05:07:39 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2011, 04:59:36 PM
Quote from: Slaky on December 01, 2011, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 01, 2011, 10:54:38 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times:
"Backup QB Caleb Hanie should be better the next time around"
You mean there was a possiblity that he could get worse?
Sure. As bad as it was, that performance probably ranked in the top 100 non-Cutler-McMahon-Luckman starts in Bears history. In fact, I'm sure of it. Let me "crunch" the numbers and not get back to you later.
Most of that list is populated by Jim Miller/Steve Walsh/Erik Kramer
Grossman's start to 2006 is in there as well. I think Caleb is going to be a fine NFL quarterback some day. The problem is that this team isn't exactly in "hey, let's see what this kid can do" mode.
We get it. You've turned into a ledge-jumping, shrieking vajayjay over the Bears.
If you're comfortable with things the way they are, more power to you. I'm just concerned about the long term window here if Jay isn't coming back, because frankly a wildcard and a quick exit would be pretty disappointing for me based on my expectations for this team.
Having expectations for this team in the post-season given the team that's a few hundred miles up the lake is just silly. Barring an injury to Rodgers, the only place the Packers are losing is the Super Bowl.
I hate saying this, but the Pack looks as good as the Montana-led 49ers, which is the best team I've seen in my lifetime. It doesn't really matter a. whether the Bears make the playoffs or not, or b. when the Bears lose in the playoffs, because the NFC Championship game is a foregone conclusion, at least as of this day. Who cares if they get one more playoff win or not?
Exactly. And the Montana-led 49ers won literally every Superbowl and every NFC title every year of his career, so why even bother assuming that it's possible someone could topple the 1 seed with the great quarterback and the shitty pass defense? Not like it happened to New England last year or anything.
And the Joe Montana-Niners destroyed every team in the NFC Championship. In 1982, the Cowboys had no chance -- NONE -- of winning. It was a blowout, right? In 1984, the defeated Bears weren't missing their starting quarterback or anything, correct? Then in 1987, when the 49ers were the hottest team in December, nobody (except for the wild card Vikings) beat them in the playoffs, is that also accurate? Then in 1988, that was an awesome Forty-Niner team. No one beat them in the regular season, except of course six teams, including the Phoenix Cardinals. They also lost 10-9 to the Bears on Monday night. Now, of course THOSE Bears had the services of Richard Dent, Jim McMahon, the entire secondary, and so forth. The Bears they face in the NFC title game did not have Dent nor McMahon.
Then in 1989, those were tremendous teams the Niners faced in the playoffs, especially those LA Rams. In 1990, the 49ers three-peated as Fork's Giants instead decided to go hang out in a Newark crackhouse with LT rather than fly to the 'Stick and play that juggernaut. After all, those G-men had a shittier backup QB than Caleb Hainie, if it matters.
Then Joe Montana went to Kansas City, a la Wilbert Harrison (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8tZO97uhyE) and Kyle Orton. And it was safe to be a 49er-hating football fan again.
I was going to say something about not even playing the games, etc., etc., but these responses have been great.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on December 02, 2011, 04:20:56 PM
Quote from: Brownie on December 02, 2011, 03:44:41 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 02, 2011, 02:46:00 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 02, 2011, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2011, 06:45:46 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 01, 2011, 05:07:39 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2011, 04:59:36 PM
Quote from: Slaky on December 01, 2011, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 01, 2011, 10:54:38 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times:
"Backup QB Caleb Hanie should be better the next time around"
You mean there was a possiblity that he could get worse?
Sure. As bad as it was, that performance probably ranked in the top 100 non-Cutler-McMahon-Luckman starts in Bears history. In fact, I'm sure of it. Let me "crunch" the numbers and not get back to you later.
Most of that list is populated by Jim Miller/Steve Walsh/Erik Kramer
Grossman's start to 2006 is in there as well. I think Caleb is going to be a fine NFL quarterback some day. The problem is that this team isn't exactly in "hey, let's see what this kid can do" mode.
We get it. You've turned into a ledge-jumping, shrieking vajayjay over the Bears.
If you're comfortable with things the way they are, more power to you. I'm just concerned about the long term window here if Jay isn't coming back, because frankly a wildcard and a quick exit would be pretty disappointing for me based on my expectations for this team.
Having expectations for this team in the post-season given the team that's a few hundred miles up the lake is just silly. Barring an injury to Rodgers, the only place the Packers are losing is the Super Bowl.
I hate saying this, but the Pack looks as good as the Montana-led 49ers, which is the best team I've seen in my lifetime. It doesn't really matter a. whether the Bears make the playoffs or not, or b. when the Bears lose in the playoffs, because the NFC Championship game is a foregone conclusion, at least as of this day. Who cares if they get one more playoff win or not?
Exactly. And the Montana-led 49ers won literally every Superbowl and every NFC title every year of his career, so why even bother assuming that it's possible someone could topple the 1 seed with the great quarterback and the shitty pass defense? Not like it happened to New England last year or anything.
And the Joe Montana-Niners destroyed every team in the NFC Championship. In 1982, the Cowboys had no chance -- NONE -- of winning. It was a blowout, right? In 1984, the defeated Bears weren't missing their starting quarterback or anything, correct? Then in 1987, when the 49ers were the hottest team in December, nobody (except for the wild card Vikings) beat them in the playoffs, is that also accurate? Then in 1988, that was an awesome Forty-Niner team. No one beat them in the regular season, except of course six teams, including the Phoenix Cardinals. They also lost 10-9 to the Bears on Monday night. Now, of course THOSE Bears had the services of Richard Dent, Jim McMahon, the entire secondary, and so forth. The Bears they face in the NFC title game did not have Dent nor McMahon.
Then in 1989, those were tremendous teams the Niners faced in the playoffs, especially those LA Rams. In 1990, the 49ers three-peated as Fork's Giants instead decided to go hang out in a Newark crackhouse with LT rather than fly to the 'Stick and play that juggernaut. After all, those G-men had a shittier backup QB than Caleb Hainie, if it matters.
Then Joe Montana went to Kansas City, a la Wilbert Harrison (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8tZO97uhyE) and Kyle Orton. And it was safe to be a 49er-hating football fan again.
I was going to say something about not even playing the games, etc., etc., but these responses have been great.
I like watching football.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on December 02, 2011, 04:20:56 PM
Quote from: Brownie on December 02, 2011, 03:44:41 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 02, 2011, 02:46:00 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 02, 2011, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2011, 06:45:46 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 01, 2011, 05:07:39 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2011, 04:59:36 PM
Quote from: Slaky on December 01, 2011, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 01, 2011, 10:54:38 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times:
"Backup QB Caleb Hanie should be better the next time around"
You mean there was a possiblity that he could get worse?
Sure. As bad as it was, that performance probably ranked in the top 100 non-Cutler-McMahon-Luckman starts in Bears history. In fact, I'm sure of it. Let me "crunch" the numbers and not get back to you later.
Most of that list is populated by Jim Miller/Steve Walsh/Erik Kramer
Grossman's start to 2006 is in there as well. I think Caleb is going to be a fine NFL quarterback some day. The problem is that this team isn't exactly in "hey, let's see what this kid can do" mode.
We get it. You've turned into a ledge-jumping, shrieking vajayjay over the Bears.
If you're comfortable with things the way they are, more power to you. I'm just concerned about the long term window here if Jay isn't coming back, because frankly a wildcard and a quick exit would be pretty disappointing for me based on my expectations for this team.
Having expectations for this team in the post-season given the team that's a few hundred miles up the lake is just silly. Barring an injury to Rodgers, the only place the Packers are losing is the Super Bowl.
I hate saying this, but the Pack looks as good as the Montana-led 49ers, which is the best team I've seen in my lifetime. It doesn't really matter a. whether the Bears make the playoffs or not, or b. when the Bears lose in the playoffs, because the NFC Championship game is a foregone conclusion, at least as of this day. Who cares if they get one more playoff win or not?
Exactly. And the Montana-led 49ers won literally every Superbowl and every NFC title every year of his career, so why even bother assuming that it's possible someone could topple the 1 seed with the great quarterback and the shitty pass defense? Not like it happened to New England last year or anything.
And the Joe Montana-Niners destroyed every team in the NFC Championship. In 1982, the Cowboys had no chance -- NONE -- of winning. It was a blowout, right? In 1984, the defeated Bears weren't missing their starting quarterback or anything, correct? Then in 1987, when the 49ers were the hottest team in December, nobody (except for the wild card Vikings) beat them in the playoffs, is that also accurate? Then in 1988, that was an awesome Forty-Niner team. No one beat them in the regular season, except of course six teams, including the Phoenix Cardinals. They also lost 10-9 to the Bears on Monday night. Now, of course THOSE Bears had the services of Richard Dent, Jim McMahon, the entire secondary, and so forth. The Bears they face in the NFC title game did not have Dent nor McMahon.
Then in 1989, those were tremendous teams the Niners faced in the playoffs, especially those LA Rams. In 1990, the 49ers three-peated as Fork's Giants instead decided to go hang out in a Newark crackhouse with LT rather than fly to the 'Stick and play that juggernaut. After all, those G-men had a shittier backup QB than Caleb Hainie, if it matters.
Then Joe Montana went to Kansas City, a la Wilbert Harrison (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8tZO97uhyE) and Kyle Orton. And it was safe to be a 49er-hating football fan again.
I was going to say something about not even playing the games, etc., etc., but these responses have been great.
I love when the Hive Mind works as it should.
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 02, 2011, 05:08:12 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on December 02, 2011, 04:20:56 PM
Quote from: Brownie on December 02, 2011, 03:44:41 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 02, 2011, 02:46:00 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on December 02, 2011, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2011, 06:45:46 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 01, 2011, 05:07:39 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 01, 2011, 04:59:36 PM
Quote from: Slaky on December 01, 2011, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 01, 2011, 10:54:38 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
Headline in the Sun-Times:
"Backup QB Caleb Hanie should be better the next time around"
You mean there was a possiblity that he could get worse?
Sure. As bad as it was, that performance probably ranked in the top 100 non-Cutler-McMahon-Luckman starts in Bears history. In fact, I'm sure of it. Let me "crunch" the numbers and not get back to you later.
Most of that list is populated by Jim Miller/Steve Walsh/Erik Kramer
Grossman's start to 2006 is in there as well. I think Caleb is going to be a fine NFL quarterback some day. The problem is that this team isn't exactly in "hey, let's see what this kid can do" mode.
We get it. You've turned into a ledge-jumping, shrieking vajayjay over the Bears.
If you're comfortable with things the way they are, more power to you. I'm just concerned about the long term window here if Jay isn't coming back, because frankly a wildcard and a quick exit would be pretty disappointing for me based on my expectations for this team.
Having expectations for this team in the post-season given the team that's a few hundred miles up the lake is just silly. Barring an injury to Rodgers, the only place the Packers are losing is the Super Bowl.
I hate saying this, but the Pack looks as good as the Montana-led 49ers, which is the best team I've seen in my lifetime. It doesn't really matter a. whether the Bears make the playoffs or not, or b. when the Bears lose in the playoffs, because the NFC Championship game is a foregone conclusion, at least as of this day. Who cares if they get one more playoff win or not?
Exactly. And the Montana-led 49ers won literally every Superbowl and every NFC title every year of his career, so why even bother assuming that it's possible someone could topple the 1 seed with the great quarterback and the shitty pass defense? Not like it happened to New England last year or anything.
And the Joe Montana-Niners destroyed every team in the NFC Championship. In 1982, the Cowboys had no chance -- NONE -- of winning. It was a blowout, right? In 1984, the defeated Bears weren't missing their starting quarterback or anything, correct? Then in 1987, when the 49ers were the hottest team in December, nobody (except for the wild card Vikings) beat them in the playoffs, is that also accurate? Then in 1988, that was an awesome Forty-Niner team. No one beat them in the regular season, except of course six teams, including the Phoenix Cardinals. They also lost 10-9 to the Bears on Monday night. Now, of course THOSE Bears had the services of Richard Dent, Jim McMahon, the entire secondary, and so forth. The Bears they face in the NFC title game did not have Dent nor McMahon.
Then in 1989, those were tremendous teams the Niners faced in the playoffs, especially those LA Rams. In 1990, the 49ers three-peated as Fork's Giants instead decided to go hang out in a Newark crackhouse with LT rather than fly to the 'Stick and play that juggernaut. After all, those G-men had a shittier backup QB than Caleb Hainie, if it matters.
Then Joe Montana went to Kansas City, a la Wilbert Harrison (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8tZO97uhyE) and Kyle Orton. And it was safe to be a 49er-hating football fan again.
I was going to say something about not even playing the games, etc., etc., but these responses have been great.
I like watching football.
Even after today?
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Headline in the Sun-Times:
"Backup QB Caleb Hanie should be better the next time around"
You mean there was a possiblity that he could get worse?
Sure. As bad as it was, that performance probably ranked in the top 100 non-Cutler-McMahon-Luckman starts in Bears history. In fact, I'm sure of it. Let me "crunch" the numbers and not get back to you later.
Most of that list is populated by Jim Miller/Steve Walsh/Erik Kramer
Grossman's start to 2006 is in there as well. I think Caleb is going to be a fine NFL quarterback some day. The problem is that this team isn't exactly in "hey, let's see what this kid can do" mode.
We get it. You've turned into a ledge-jumping, shrieking vajayjay over the Bears.
If you're comfortable with things the way they are, more power to you. I'm just concerned about the long term window here if Jay isn't coming back, because frankly a wildcard and a quick exit would be pretty disappointing for me based on my expectations for this team.
Having expectations for this team in the post-season given the team that's a few hundred miles up the lake is just silly. Barring an injury to Rodgers, the only place the Packers are losing is the Super Bowl.
I hate saying this, but the Pack looks as good as the Montana-led 49ers, which is the best team I've seen in my lifetime. It doesn't really matter a. whether the Bears make the playoffs or not, or b. when the Bears lose in the playoffs, because the NFC Championship game is a foregone conclusion, at least as of this day. Who cares if they get one more playoff win or not?
Exactly. And the Montana-led 49ers won literally every Superbowl and every NFC title every year of his career, so why even bother assuming that it's possible someone could topple the 1 seed with the great quarterback and the shitty pass defense? Not like it happened to New England last year or anything.
And the Joe Montana-Niners destroyed every team in the NFC Championship. In 1982, the Cowboys had no chance -- NONE -- of winning. It was a blowout, right? In 1984, the defeated Bears weren't missing their starting quarterback or anything, correct? Then in 1987, when the 49ers were the hottest team in December, nobody (except for the wild card Vikings) beat them in the playoffs, is that also accurate? Then in 1988, that was an awesome Forty-Niner team. No one beat them in the regular season, except of course six teams, including the Phoenix Cardinals. They also lost 10-9 to the Bears on Monday night. Now, of course THOSE Bears had the services of Richard Dent, Jim McMahon, the entire secondary, and so forth. The Bears they face in the NFC title game did not have Dent nor McMahon.
Then in 1989, those were tremendous teams the Niners faced in the playoffs, especially those LA Rams. In 1990, the 49ers three-peated as Fork's Giants instead decided to go hang out in a Newark crackhouse with LT rather than fly to the 'Stick and play that juggernaut. After all, those G-men had a shittier backup QB than Caleb Hainie, if it matters.
Then Joe Montana went to Kansas City, a la Wilbert Harrison (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8tZO97uhyE) and Kyle Orton. And it was safe to be a 49er-hating football fan again.
I was going to say something about not even playing the games, etc., etc., but these responses have been great.
I like watching football.
Even after today?
I like drinking whiskey.
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I like drinking whiskey.
Me too. I got Eagle Rare and Templeton Rye. What are you drinking?
Or did your ex take it all?