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Quote from: Oleg on December 15, 2015, 09:01:13 AM

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Quote from: SKO on December 14, 2015, 02:49:47 PM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 14, 2015, 02:47:28 PM

Quote from: SKO on December 14, 2015, 02:37:19 PM

Quote from: Oleg on December 14, 2015, 02:26:34 PM
I just can't get enough of reading about this team.  Fuck Christmas and New Years.  Bring on Smarch already.

That may have been the most bonerworthy thing I've ever read.

This never even touched on the guys like Schwarber, Russell or Soler who can also help stack up wins.

This fucking team.

It also didn't mention Jake Arrieta and a rotation that led the MLB in FIP last year. I'm getting the vapors.

My guess without looking is Schwarber's WAR will be limited by his awful defense. Russell has to pick it up big time at the plate but his defensive abilities combined with a successful year batting would propel him.

It's pretty absurd.

Even with his defense, Steamer has him as a 2.5 win player in 500 PAs next year.
Steamer has Russell as a 2-win player next year in the same 500 PAs.

I'd guess that since they have limited MLB time and the expectation of getting more PAs than that, they'll be more valuable.  ZIPS and PECOTA to follow later.

Bottom line, this team should be absurdly good if they stay relatively healthy.

This is so much more fun than the last time I thought the Cubs would be absurdly good. It's great not having to rely on LaTroy Hawkins and Tom Goodwin additions pushing the Cubs over the top.

Quote from: SKO on December 14, 2015, 02:04:40 PM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 14, 2015, 01:55:40 PM

Quote from: SKO on December 14, 2015, 01:49:31 PM

Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on December 14, 2015, 01:46:39 PM

Quote from: Eli on December 14, 2015, 12:27:10 PM

Quote from: Oleg on December 14, 2015, 12:12:04 PM
Even in that case, The Cubs should have plenty left to make a deal without giving up Soler.

The rumor is Soler+ for Inciarte, for whatever that's worth. Picture it from the perspective of a Braves fan -- they'd probably be pissed that they gave up someone who was 33 times more valuable than Soler last year (and the two are only like 14 months apart in age, if you're trying to factor upside/improvement). Especially when Inciarte's primary skill is defense, which is pretty en vogue across MLB at the moment.

But isn't defense a teachable skill? Even Ryan Braun manages to play the outfield without being in constant danger of spiking himself these days.

To an extent, but I mean there's a reason there are still bad defensive players. Look at Hanley Ramirez in left field. No amount of coaching is fixing that. I personally don't believe Jorge is as bad as he looked this year, especially since bad defense didn't really seem like one of the knocks on him coming into this year, but it would be overly rosy to think he'll just magically be good. He'd have to stay healthy and hit consistently like he did in the second half to be more valuable than Inciarte, probably. It's up to you to decide how likely you think he is to do that. I personally think he can and will, but I'll admit bias there.

If he hits like we think he will, "adequate" will be enough.

Yeah, and we've certainly seen enough of Good Jorge to think that if there comes a year where he's healthy, hits like the top end of his projections, and doesn't spike himself in the dick every time he fields the ball he'll be an absolute monster, but it's asking a lot of a guy who has never done all three of those things for a full season to do them this year. It's understandable if Theo decides he'd rather gamble on Inciarte's 2 WAR floor and 3.5 WAR ceiling vs Jorge's 0.1 floor and 6 WAR ceiling. It'd just make me kinda sad, because I'm a sucker willing to gamble on that Soler ceiling and I think they've got a good enough team around him that they're not screwed  if he fails to reach it.

Some of his gold chain enabled throws have been pretty sweet, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOaYE14M5SA

But don't take it from me, take it from A.O. Scott Gamespot:

http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/metal-gear-solid-v-the-phantom-pain-review/1900-6416224/

It's excellent. Steak sauce on wheels excellent.

Get amp'd for the most creative thing since the 2004 NSBB pitching staff shirts:

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2015/12/12/9927990/welcome-cubs-jason-heyward-hey-jude-parody

Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 14, 2015, 02:05:28 PM

Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 14, 2015, 02:03:10 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 14, 2015, 02:02:31 PM
Jake Arrieta is only good because he rubs some sunscreen from his wrist onto the ball before every slider. Seriously. I could post updates every five minutes with this stuff, but I'll spare you. It's all gold though.

That's quality stuff.

Former major leaguer and Cardinal Nation legend Chris Duncan, everyone.

I remember his two sorta okay, roid-fueled years.

Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 14, 2015, 01:54:33 PM

Quote from: D. Doluntap on October 14, 2015, 01:53:17 PM
Unnecessary. But so sweet.

Somewhere in the Hobart, IN Golden Corral, Ed Farmer is FURIOUS.

Fix'd'ed

Unnecessary. But so sweet.

Quote from: ChuckD on October 14, 2015, 09:50:44 AM

Quote from: D. Doluntap on October 13, 2015, 08:56:46 PM
I posted here about a decade ago

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D. Doluntap

Yep. Checks out.

I like what you guys have done with the place.

And what a sharp looking t-shirt it is.

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 14, 2015, 08:59:50 AM

Quote from: D. Doluntap on October 13, 2015, 09:01:39 PM
And yeah. I mean I compared one at bats to two at bats. But that's how fucking great it was. Lackey's nose is awesome.

Shut up, Paul.  You're a douche.

I'm happy this is still in the rotation!

Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on October 13, 2015, 10:09:37 PM

Quote from: D. Doluntap on October 13, 2015, 08:56:46 PM
Guys I posted here about a decade ago (and once in the late 2000s, or so, who the fuck cares) as RockTheIvy. You guys commiserated with me in 2004. What a clusterfuck. This was amazing. When the Cubs made the postseason, I realized I needed to come back here. Where the fuck else could a long time loser spend his time? With fucking Yellon? Of course. This is fucking special. I hope you're all well. I'll stick around here this time.

And fuck Matt Carpenter/Dickface Holiday/Pudding-brain Matheny. They can play the game the right way in hell.

FYP. You're a douche.

Welcome back.

Thanks. Extra baggy, too.

Quote from: Shooter on October 13, 2015, 09:01:10 PM

Quote from: Canadouche on October 13, 2015, 08:45:30 PM
*I realize that Addison's day off had nothing to do with Maddon's choices, per se, but I felt the need to mention it since things might have gone differently today had Baez not gotten the start.

It helps that they've built a really strong bench with few bad options. Even when they go for defense with Jackson and Denorfia, they've got non-useless hitters.

And the bullpen they've cobbled together basically off of the scrap heap ....

Excellent. Just think of the useless hitters the Cubs have had as defensive replacements in the past!

And yeah. I mean I compared one at bats to two at bats. But that's how fucking great it was. Lackey's nose is awesome.