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Quote from: De Jesus on November 20, 2008, 01:37:51 PM

Quote from: TJ on November 20, 2008, 01:18:10 PM

Quote from: De Jesus on November 20, 2008, 01:11:30 PM

Quote from: TJ on November 20, 2008, 11:23:18 AM
For those interested Libertarians, this is a Cato Libertarian Institute Fellow talking about the U.S. health care system vis-a-vis other countries' systems.

Accurate portrayal of the Cato institute'd

I hate the Cato Institute.  Not always for what they stand for, but for the fact that they pretend to be non-partisan. The truth is that they may criticize both sides, but they're "nonpartisan" in exactly the same way that the National Organization for Women or Planned Parenthood are.

QuoteThe mission of the Cato Institute is to increase the understanding of public policies based on the principles of limited government, free markets, individual liberty, and peace.

Yeah, they're libertarian.   I thought by saying it was Cato, you'd understand it was libertarian-minded.  Even so, this speech outlines the problems in health care are not limited to the U.S.

It's a stretch to call them non-partisan, because I suppose the Libertarian Party is their dog in the fight. They've hardly coddled the Bush Administration.

My point is that they do skew things and cherry pick facts to support their point of view.  I could easily post a link to an institute that does the same thing to show that full-blown communism or Islamofascism are the direction to go with our country.  We've all avoided posting links to partisan websites in the political threads because they're really not credible.  Sure, there are a lot of links like that from Liberal websites that I wouldn't have minded posting in here, but they would have gotten the same reaction, and rightly so.

A link to the Cato Institute website is roughly equivalent to a link to the RNC or DNC.  After all, they're probably the most organized group of Libertarians in the country (certainly more so than the actual Libertarian Party of Splintered Clusterfuckedness).

Enjoy

http://www.rnc.org/

Quote from: 5laky on November 20, 2008, 09:54:43 AM
Taylor, what are you doing man?

Just trying to have some fun. I wanted to see how fast and furious the response would be.

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Quote from: Furious George on November 20, 2008, 08:41:02 AM

Quote from: Taylor2 on November 20, 2008, 08:04:35 AM

Don't worry about it TJ or anything else for that matter. The house negro is going to take care of us forever.

And if he doesn't, I bet a racist strawman could come through in a pinch.

If he doesn't? Heresy!!!!! He's bringing real change to Washington. If he doesn't? Do you doubt for any second his ability to bring hope to all of us? It's racist to even think that he is not the most sucessful president-elect in our history.

Taylor, it's funny. I have been able to suggest that Obama won't be especially successful as President, yet no one beyond the most idiotic would suggest this as evidence I am racist.

I'm not doing cartwheels since Obama won, but he deserves the respect the Office of the President commands.

TJ, I'm giving our president-elect all of the respect that the left gave George Bush when he stoled won the election 8 years ago. Remember now dissent is the highest form of patriotism, but not after November 4, 2008.

Quote from: Gil Gunderson on November 20, 2008, 09:32:56 AM

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Quote from: Furious George on November 20, 2008, 08:41:02 AM

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Quote from: TJ on November 20, 2008, 07:45:49 AM
Do we have an unlimited supply of medical care? How do we increase the supply? What is the baseline level of care a government should guarantee for someone?  Would others be allowed to purchase insurance above and beyond that?

Will we have to sharply regulate everyone's activity level to keep health care costs down? At what level will the government use the "YOU'RE COSTING US TAXPAYER MONEY" to regulate your choices regarding diet, beverages, exercise activity, tobacco use.

In my opinion, the biggest problem with the health care program in this country is your lack of choice over your insurance provider (and your inability to hold said insurer accountable) and in turn, your limited choice over health care provider (and your inability, except through malpractice suits, to hold said provider accountable).  The thought of decoupling your health insurance from your employer is intriguing for three reasons:

1. You wouldn't have to stay at an otherwise shitty job out of fear of losing your health care benefits.
2. Losing your job wouldn't be as catastrophic if you are buying health insurance out of pocket. Do any of you know how much your COBRA payment would be if you lost your job?
3. You would be able to shop around for the best coverage for you.

Now, I understand the whole problem with pre-existing conditions, but I think this problem is better served through the private market than through government. Who among you would want a Bush Administration appointee administering your health care? Me neither.

Don't worry about it TJ or anything else for that matter. The house negro is going to take care of us forever.

And if he doesn't, I bet a racist strawman could come through in a pinch.

If he doesn't? Heresy!!!!! He's bringing real change to Washington. If he doesn't? Do you doubt for any second his ability to bring hope to all of us? It's racist to even think that he is not the most sucessful president-elect in our history.

No, it's racist to cite a racist's racist comment in an effort to make an absurd political argument that has no apparent grounding in facts or truth.  The man has been president-elect for about two weeks, how about waiting until he's actually empowered to propose and sign legislation before criticizing the man.

Or do you believe that this is "The Obama Recession?"

Didn't I just write that he's the greatest president-elect ever? He's certainly the first to create his own president-elect seal. The bestest thing is how much change he'll bring to Washington with his adminstration.

As for educated voters. I couldn't agree more. These educated people would never vote Republican.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8

OBAMA! OBAMA! OBAMA!

Quote from: Furious George on November 20, 2008, 08:41:02 AM

Quote from: Taylor2 on November 20, 2008, 08:04:35 AM

Quote from: TJ on November 20, 2008, 07:45:49 AM
Do we have an unlimited supply of medical care? How do we increase the supply? What is the baseline level of care a government should guarantee for someone?  Would others be allowed to purchase insurance above and beyond that?

Will we have to sharply regulate everyone's activity level to keep health care costs down? At what level will the government use the "YOU'RE COSTING US TAXPAYER MONEY" to regulate your choices regarding diet, beverages, exercise activity, tobacco use.

In my opinion, the biggest problem with the health care program in this country is your lack of choice over your insurance provider (and your inability to hold said insurer accountable) and in turn, your limited choice over health care provider (and your inability, except through malpractice suits, to hold said provider accountable).  The thought of decoupling your health insurance from your employer is intriguing for three reasons:

1. You wouldn't have to stay at an otherwise shitty job out of fear of losing your health care benefits.
2. Losing your job wouldn't be as catastrophic if you are buying health insurance out of pocket. Do any of you know how much your COBRA payment would be if you lost your job?
3. You would be able to shop around for the best coverage for you.

Now, I understand the whole problem with pre-existing conditions, but I think this problem is better served through the private market than through government. Who among you would want a Bush Administration appointee administering your health care? Me neither.

Don't worry about it TJ or anything else for that matter. The house negro is going to take care of us forever.

And if he doesn't, I bet a racist strawman could come through in a pinch.

If he doesn't? Heresy!!!!! He's bringing real change to Washington. If he doesn't? Do you doubt for any second his ability to bring hope to all of us? It's racist to even think that he is not the most sucessful president-elect in our history.

Quote from: TJ on November 20, 2008, 07:45:49 AM
Do we have an unlimited supply of medical care? How do we increase the supply? What is the baseline level of care a government should guarantee for someone?  Would others be allowed to purchase insurance above and beyond that?

Will we have to sharply regulate everyone's activity level to keep health care costs down? At what level will the government use the "YOU'RE COSTING US TAXPAYER MONEY" to regulate your choices regarding diet, beverages, exercise activity, tobacco use.

In my opinion, the biggest problem with the health care program in this country is your lack of choice over your insurance provider (and your inability to hold said insurer accountable) and in turn, your limited choice over health care provider (and your inability, except through malpractice suits, to hold said provider accountable).  The thought of decoupling your health insurance from your employer is intriguing for three reasons:

1. You wouldn't have to stay at an otherwise shitty job out of fear of losing your health care benefits.
2. Losing your job wouldn't be as catastrophic if you are buying health insurance out of pocket. Do any of you know how much your COBRA payment would be if you lost your job?
3. You would be able to shop around for the best coverage for you.

Now, I understand the whole problem with pre-existing conditions, but I think this problem is better served through the private market than through government. Who among you would want a Bush Administration appointee administering your health care? Me neither.

Don't worry about it TJ or anything else for that matter. The house negro is going to take care of us forever.

Quote from: Kerm on October 29, 2008, 04:59:50 PM
The Beatles might be coming to Rock Band.

Say it with me now:

While My Guitar Gently Weeps
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
While My Guitar Gently Weeps

Will it have "You know my name, look up the number" on the play list?

Not as good as deep fried bat but, frog leg pizza looks mighty tasty.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1815988.ece

Quote from: Andre Dawson's Creek on October 02, 2008, 10:50:10 AM

Quote from: Eli on October 02, 2008, 10:12:57 AM

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Quote from: Eli on October 01, 2008, 10:53:20 AM

Honestly, how many times can they have Jim leave Scranton and come back?  I mean, have you ever been to Scranton?  It's not exactly a great place to live.  I don't think that it would be all that realistic to have him leave for a second time and then come back again.  He already doesn't seem like he wants to be there, and that office is pretty crazy anyway, so I don't think he'd come back.  There's just too much awkwardness.  I definitely think we might see him and Pam leave and settle down in New York.  But would they be happy there?  I don't know.  But it probably seems like the best option at this point in the show.  I could even see Jim leaving Dunder-Mifflin entirely.  He did want to be a sportswriter, and he's getting to the age where he probably should make that career jump.  It's possible that he could get a job in Philadelphia, too.  Pam could find a graphic design job there.  I'd imagine that could work out, since Jim might want to follow his dreams after Pam chased hers.

He could stay in NY as a sports writer. Have him break up with Pam and then to make ends meet have roommate. They could make Jim be really messy and his roommate really neat and fussy.

I liked that one better when it was called Growing Pains.  Try again, Kowalski.

How about, Jim doesn't get a sports writing gig (because he lacks experience) and goes to work in a sporting goods store instead.  And then his foreign cousin with a bad understanding of English and his wacky homeland customs comes to live with him?

How about Jim and some other dude that looks like George Michael adopt a blond. They aren't gay though. They live together and they're both her dad.

They could call it - Jim and Some Guy With Some Kid And Stuff.

How about Jenna Fischer goes topless for an episode or two?

You gotta save that stuff for sweeps.

Maybe she could play the nosy neighbor while Jim builds a small robitic child?

How about Jim moves to Florida and becomes and astronaut he finds out that Pam is really a genie and she gets him into all sorts of wacky situations?

Quote from: Andre Dawson's Creek on October 02, 2008, 10:01:48 AM

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Quote from: Eli on October 01, 2008, 10:53:20 AM

Honestly, how many times can they have Jim leave Scranton and come back?  I mean, have you ever been to Scranton?  It's not exactly a great place to live.  I don't think that it would be all that realistic to have him leave for a second time and then come back again.  He already doesn't seem like he wants to be there, and that office is pretty crazy anyway, so I don't think he'd come back.  There's just too much awkwardness.  I definitely think we might see him and Pam leave and settle down in New York.  But would they be happy there?  I don't know.  But it probably seems like the best option at this point in the show.  I could even see Jim leaving Dunder-Mifflin entirely.  He did want to be a sportswriter, and he's getting to the age where he probably should make that career jump.  It's possible that he could get a job in Philadelphia, too.  Pam could find a graphic design job there.  I'd imagine that could work out, since Jim might want to follow his dreams after Pam chased hers.

He could stay in NY as a sports writer. Have him break up with Pam and then to make ends meet have roommate. They could make Jim be really messy and his roommate really neat and fussy.

I liked that one better when it was called Growing Pains.  Try again, Kowalski.

How about, Jim doesn't get a sports writing gig (because he lacks experience) and goes to work in a sporting goods store instead.  And then his foreign cousin with a bad understanding of English and his wacky homeland customs comes to live with him?

How about he's a sports writer in NY with a wife a 3 kids. His parents live across the street and are always over at his house driving him nuts and he has a really tall brother who is a cop?

Quote from: Eli on October 01, 2008, 10:53:20 AM

Honestly, how many times can they have Jim leave Scranton and come back?  I mean, have you ever been to Scranton?  It's not exactly a great place to live.  I don't think that it would be all that realistic to have him leave for a second time and then come back again.  He already doesn't seem like he wants to be there, and that office is pretty crazy anyway, so I don't think he'd come back.  There's just too much awkwardness.  I definitely think we might see him and Pam leave and settle down in New York.  But would they be happy there?  I don't know.  But it probably seems like the best option at this point in the show.  I could even see Jim leaving Dunder-Mifflin entirely.  He did want to be a sportswriter, and he's getting to the age where he probably should make that career jump.  It's possible that he could get a job in Philadelphia, too.  Pam could find a graphic design job there.  I'd imagine that could work out, since Jim might want to follow his dreams after Pam chased hers.

He could stay in NY as a sports writer. Have him break up with Pam and then to make ends meet have roommate. They could make Jim be really messy and his roommate really neat and fussy.

QuoteST. LOUIS -- Pitcher Kyle Lohse and the St. Louis Cardinals agreed Monday to a $41 million, four-year contract.

Lohse was 15-6 with a 3.78 ERA this season and led the staff with 200 innings. He agreed to a $4.25 million, one-year contract on March 14.

His new deal contract calls for a $1.25 million signing bonus and salaries of $7.125 million next year, $8.875 million in 2009 and $11.875 million in each of the final two seasons. He also gets a full no-trade clause.

QuoteMIAMI -- Right-hander Sergio Mitre, recovering from elbow surgery, was released Monday by the Florida Marlins.

Mitre underwent Tommy John surgery July 15, missed the entire 2008 season and is not expected to return until midseason next year at the earliest.

Mitre went 5-8 with a 4.65 ERA in a career-high 27 starts for Florida last year.

http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080917&content_id=3497333&vkey=news_stl&fext=.jsp&c_id=stl

QuoteCINCINNATI -- The Cardinals confirmed outfielder Rick Ankiel underwent surgery in Philadelphia on Wednesday to repair a sports hernia.

Ankiel first sustained a lower abdominal injury in late July in New York. He didn't start for two weeks, though he pinch-hit occasionally, and returned to the lineup in August. However, the injury never really healed, and eventually Ankiel was shut down for the season.

He should have had someone help him lift those boxes of HGH.

Quote from: Fork on September 18, 2008, 01:04:50 PM

Soccer players are pussies.

Worse than ballroom dancers.

So when the Cubs clinch the division we should flip over ballroom dancers and not soccer players?