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Quote from: Fork on January 16, 2009, 12:30:03 PM

Quote from: bocaj on January 16, 2009, 12:27:17 PM

Quote from: Oleg on January 16, 2009, 10:33:27 AM

Quote from: Fork on January 16, 2009, 07:57:33 AM

To expand on Tonk's song quoting, while there is beauty to be found in a really good album, there is nothing as enjoyable to me as a perfectly crafted single. Phil Spector was capable of doing more in 2 minutes 30 seconds than Pink Floyd could do in a double album.

Neither Nirvana album could capture the disenfranchisement and alienation of youth as perfectly as "Blitzkrieg Bop".

No number of books about Beatlemania could explain what the fuss was all about as neatly as everything from the drum roll to the ending harmony of "She Loves You".

I don't disagree; however, your point is generational.  I would disagree about your conclusions, however.  I'm not about to argue against Phil Spector (or anything that was done in Detroit at the time).  Nor am I going to take anything away from The Ramones.  However, to dismiss Nirvana so brazenly shows nothing except that you came of age about 13 years before I did.

There's no way you can tell me, that as a 19 year old kid going away to college that the angst I felt about what was going on around me, and to me, was somehow less valid than what you went through.  You had The Ramones; we had Nirvana.  One is more relevant than the other because one came earlier.  Teenage angst is a crazy thing, and we may make fun of it in our thirties, but God damn we felt that shit and it made us who we are.

The funny thing is that you didn't even mention what may be the most influential angst in our lifetimes, the hip hop/rap movement.  The evolution of that genre and the voice it gave to millions of youths who had no voice before is completely overlooked.  Granted, as with any sub-genre, it gave rise to a load of crap, but Afrika Bambata and Public Enemy and The Roots are as important to our culture as The Ramones and (putting on the flame suit) The Beach Boys.

Rock N Roll has proven to be an ever-evolving art-form.  We have moved from 2 minute AM singles to wall of sound, record-side length "songs" of the Dead to teenage anger punk to an inner city voice with rap and hip-hop.  And everything in between and back again.  Nothing in rock music is linear, and that's what makes it so fucking awesome.

Arguing about REM vs The Jam is splitting hairs.

Holy shit, do I love rock-n-roll!

I don't care what generation you're a part of, how could you possibly think that The Ramones are anything but unadulterated crap? Sure, they had spunk and all, but I'm still not even sure that they ever decided to write another melody after their first one....

"Rock and roll is all about attitude. you don't have to play the best guitar" - Johnny Thunders

Was it The Ramones' attitude that they should make shitty music? By the way, good... bad....

Quote from: Oleg on January 16, 2009, 10:33:27 AM

Quote from: Fork on January 16, 2009, 07:57:33 AM

To expand on Tonk's song quoting, while there is beauty to be found in a really good album, there is nothing as enjoyable to me as a perfectly crafted single. Phil Spector was capable of doing more in 2 minutes 30 seconds than Pink Floyd could do in a double album.

Neither Nirvana album could capture the disenfranchisement and alienation of youth as perfectly as "Blitzkrieg Bop".

No number of books about Beatlemania could explain what the fuss was all about as neatly as everything from the drum roll to the ending harmony of "She Loves You".

I don't disagree; however, your point is generational.  I would disagree about your conclusions, however.  I'm not about to argue against Phil Spector (or anything that was done in Detroit at the time).  Nor am I going to take anything away from The Ramones.  However, to dismiss Nirvana so brazenly shows nothing except that you came of age about 13 years before I did.

There's no way you can tell me, that as a 19 year old kid going away to college that the angst I felt about what was going on around me, and to me, was somehow less valid than what you went through.  You had The Ramones; we had Nirvana.  One is more relevant than the other because one came earlier.  Teenage angst is a crazy thing, and we may make fun of it in our thirties, but God damn we felt that shit and it made us who we are.

The funny thing is that you didn't even mention what may be the most influential angst in our lifetimes, the hip hop/rap movement.  The evolution of that genre and the voice it gave to millions of youths who had no voice before is completely overlooked.  Granted, as with any sub-genre, it gave rise to a load of crap, but Afrika Bambata and Public Enemy and The Roots are as important to our culture as The Ramones and (putting on the flame suit) The Beach Boys.

Rock N Roll has proven to be an ever-evolving art-form.  We have moved from 2 minute AM singles to wall of sound, record-side length "songs" of the Dead to teenage anger punk to an inner city voice with rap and hip-hop.  And everything in between and back again.  Nothing in rock music is linear, and that's what makes it so fucking awesome.

Arguing about REM vs The Jam is splitting hairs.

Holy shit, do I love rock-n-roll!

I don't care what generation you're a part of, how could you possibly think that The Ramones are anything but unadulterated crap? Sure, they had spunk and all, but I'm still not even sure that they ever decided to write another melody after their first one....

Quote from: IrishYeti on January 15, 2009, 06:03:07 PM

Quote from: 5laky on January 15, 2009, 06:00:54 PM

Quote from: Kermit, B. on January 15, 2009, 03:34:09 PM

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Quote from: Kermit, B. on January 15, 2009, 01:58:24 PM

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Quote from: Kermit, B. on January 15, 2009, 12:58:23 PM

Quote from: Fork on January 15, 2009, 12:56:44 PM

Quote from: Kermit, B. on January 15, 2009, 11:55:24 AM
A Springsteen 2-pack (including Born to Run and something off his new album) is coming to GTWT for free.  I hope this means he's also on his way to Rock Band.  Otherwise, I'm going to have to pick up GTWT.

Rock Band is getting the Beatles, right?

Yep, but it's going to be a standalone game.  Apparently, they're not doing a Rock Band 3 in 2009, but doing the Beatles game instead.  I suspect it's going to kick ass.

They don't even need to make a new game. Just keep releasing weekly song packs and I'm down.

Pearl Jam's Ten is hitting the store March 24th. So, essentially, Christmas is March 24th this year.

Oh, I agree wholeheartedly.  I'd prefer only track packs, but I think the implication was that they're going to do something a little bit special for The Beatles.  And I cannot wait for Ten.  So far, I think the best track packs have been The Who, Boston, and The Cars.  This will blow them all away.  Well, maybe not The Who.  That one was ridiculous.

The Who pack is incredible. I love the Boston one, too. You get at least 7 songs a week with Rock Band and maybe 3 a week if you're lucky on GH. It's just not the same.

Did you get the Cars pack?  It's pretty freaking outstanding, too.  "My Best Friend's Girl" has a really fun riff to play.  I love how diverse Rock Band's selection is getting, even though not much has interested me for a while.  I picked up a couple of the Orbison songs, but I wasn't interested in the country pack, and I will take a big PASS on Kravitz.

Yep - got the Cars as well. Also, the NIN pack is sweet. If you want to play a fun but repetitive drum song, I recommend the Collector. Maybe I like it because I'm not that good, but it's a blast.

Fuck country and Kravitz with a lightning bolt.

I'm sure a Geremi Gonzalez joke is a little to insensitive here.

How sure?

Quote from: 5laky on January 15, 2009, 08:12:29 PM

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Quote from: Eli on January 15, 2009, 12:51:15 PM

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Quote from: Eli on January 15, 2009, 10:58:28 AM

Quote from: Oleg on January 15, 2009, 10:08:01 AM

If you don't like REM's IRS years, then I have no idea why you listen to music at all.

This.

I guess I hate music. Ugh, what is this noise coming out of my speakers. It's so irritating!

Vampire Weekend, it sounds like.

You know me so well. Worst band ever.

It's not like I hate REM. I know Radio Free Europe, but I never got into any of their older stuff at all. As in, never listened to it.

There's a huge difference in hating a band and just not being familiar with or indifferent to their catalog. I can say, without a doubt, that I have absolutely no interest in listening to any REM from the 90s and beyond.

They're seriously your least favorite band?

Yes. I never exaggerate for effect.

What can I say, Slak? Your hate is a tough thing to gauge.

By the way, did you check out those links I sent you? (Not to annoy you.)

Quote from: 5laky on January 15, 2009, 12:59:13 PM

Quote from: Eli on January 15, 2009, 12:51:15 PM

Quote from: 5laky on January 15, 2009, 12:00:42 PM

Quote from: Eli on January 15, 2009, 10:58:28 AM

Quote from: Oleg on January 15, 2009, 10:08:01 AM

If you don't like REM's IRS years, then I have no idea why you listen to music at all.

This.

I guess I hate music. Ugh, what is this noise coming out of my speakers. It's so irritating!

Vampire Weekend, it sounds like.

You know me so well. Worst band ever.

It's not like I hate REM. I know Radio Free Europe, but I never got into any of their older stuff at all. As in, never listened to it.

There's a huge difference in hating a band and just not being familiar with or indifferent to their catalog. I can say, without a doubt, that I have absolutely no interest in listening to any REM from the 90s and beyond.

They're seriously your least favorite band?

Check out Cloud Cult, everyone. If you don't like them, then you have no soul.

Quote from: Thrillho on August 13, 2008, 11:33:06 PM

Quote from: Mike D on August 13, 2008, 11:15:50 PM

Quote from: Wheezer on August 13, 2008, 10:35:16 PM

Quote from: Oleg on August 13, 2008, 06:00:12 PM
Are the hogans of the chick in teal worth mentioning?

Stage right of Bears Shirt?  That's not teal!

Are you splitting hairs, Wheeze, or would you care to tell us the color?

Light blue, sky blue, baby blue, pale blue, cyan, azure, cerulean blue... blue.

Just not teal.

At least not in that pic.

In all likelihood he is talking about the extremely bored chick in the light blue shirt--looking quite "gangsta" with a chain and backwards hat on--who seems to find Earl and Shark's conversation more interesting than anything else.

By the way, the girl in the white (I can't get this color wrong, right?) Cubs shirt, wearing sunglasses, has some pretty unfortunate timing.

Quote from: TJ on August 11, 2008, 08:58:08 AM


Front Row: Three random women who live in their condominium for a living. Second row (from left): Morpheus, Oleg, TDubbs; Third Row (from left): Bad Kermit, flannj, TEC, A guy whose hat and glasses are the only things visible, Irish Yeti, T.J. Brown, Banana Hands; Third Row: Chuck Dickens' girlfriend, Chuck Dickens, the left side of Pre's head, Thrillho/Cornfed, Butthead, Forklift, Mike D., Andy Dolan, thehawk.

Not pictured: Chuck-to-Chuck and Mrs. Chuck-to-Chuck; Slaky and his girlfriend; Andy's father who probably disowned Andy after meeting this crowd; Mrs. T.J., who is a 3-1 shot to return home today from work now that she met this group; Saint Mrs. Fork, who did vow not to attend a Blackhawks-Red Wings rooftop on New Year's; Mrs. Butthead; Weebs (out on the curb at 1050 W. Waveland).

I took the liberty of posting a recap at HJE.

It's really quite interesting matching all these sexy faces to their respective--previously faceless--monikers.

It also makes me all the more eager to eventually take part in a like picture myself someday.... Oh, how I love you all.

Quote from: Jon on July 02, 2008, 11:56:28 AM

Quote from: 5laky on July 02, 2008, 11:52:40 AM

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Quote from: Jon on July 02, 2008, 09:04:28 AM
Another good style guide:
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm

QuoteBut one can often be in doubt about the effect of a word or a phrase, and one needs rules that one can rely on when instinct fails. I think the following rules will cover most cases:

(i) Never gild the lily by using a metaphor, simile, or other figure of speech which you are used to seeing in print. Think outside the box, lest you beat a proverbial dead horse.

(ii) Never utilize sesquipedalian verbiage where compendious phraseology will suffice.

(iii) If it is possible to cut an unnecessary, superfluous word out, always cut that extraneous word out.

(iv) The passive should not be used where the active could be.

(v) Never use un mot étrangère, technical lexis, or 733t5p34k if you can think of an everyday English equivalent.

(vi) Break any of these rules sooner than sound like Bocaj.

Mike Fontenot is a simulacrum'd

Dude, you need to embolden your changes. Embolden? Embiggen? Either way, that post was most cromulent.

Upon further perusal, I have cogitated that the rubric "Genius," while oft applied in a manner both jejune and impetuous to such ephmera as the daily cogitations of an internet journal is not disingenously apllied to this missive.

You're such a douche, college!

I love you all!

Quote from: MDZ on July 01, 2008, 04:09:19 PM

Quote from: bocaj on July 01, 2008, 12:49:31 PM

Quote from: Jon on July 01, 2008, 09:21:10 AM

Quote from: bocaj on July 01, 2008, 12:54:56 AM
"A Bucket of Blood"?

That is one of my top five films ever.

Anyone who uses "sapience" instead of the much more common and pretty much synonymous "wisdom" probably needs to stop checking the thesaurus and just watch the movie before he decides to say "dipsomaniacal" in lieu of "drunk," or other such callow douchery.

I know what every word I use is and means before I use it (i.e., I don't look up synonyms). My lack of full comprehension of a particular word or usage of certain words that may not be most appropriate in their respective context does not equate me entering every word I use in a post to find similar words and then using said similar word in a newly updated post. C'mon, you're more smart (or, wait, should I have used "perspicacious"?) than that!

First off, you're just wrong.  If you don't understand the proper usage of a word, then you don't know it.  Improper usage only makes you look like a pretentious imbecile.  There is a proper time and place for every word in the language, and there's absolutely no reason to overcomplicate your thoughts with an unnecessary word choice.  It hurts any argument that you make.  Having heard of a big word, and vaguely knowing what it means does not make you intelligent.  In fact, improper word use shows two things:  ineptness or insecurity (either in yourself, or the validity of your ideas). 

Do yourself and the rest of us a favor and get this book: 

http://www.amazon.com/Elements-Style-William-Strunk/dp/0205313426/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1214945969&sr=8-2

While I'm much obliged as to your offering of advise, I must admit that I think you have no clue what I'm meaning: I was purely pointing out a technicality of the nature of human beings, whilst not saying--as been the obligatory insult, this time--that I search thesauruses for words to use. That is, I truly am not a master of any one word I use: I doubt I even can grasp all the connotations and such for the commonly used word "I." The impracticality of such immense pedantic studiousness is simply mind-boggling.

And, by the way, I agree for the ruling that words don't make an argument--I really don't see where this tangent we have ventured on has any relevance, let alone substance to it. All I do is make one inquiry and I get a bunch of knee-jerk, spite-filled rhetoric spewed at me. This is unfair!

Quote from: Andre Dawson's Creek on July 01, 2008, 03:27:41 PM

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Quote from: Jon on July 01, 2008, 09:21:10 AM

Quote from: bocaj on July 01, 2008, 12:54:56 AM
"A Bucket of Blood"?

That is one of my top five films ever.

Anyone who uses "sapience" instead of the much more common and pretty much synonymous "wisdom" probably needs to stop checking the thesaurus and just watch the movie before he decides to say "dipsomaniacal" in lieu of "drunk," or other such callow douchery.

I know what every word I use is and means before I use it (i.e., I don't look up synonyms). My lack of full comprehension of a particular word or usage of certain words that may not be most appropriate in their respective context does not equate me entering every word I use in a post to find similar words and then using said similar word in a newly updated post. C'mon, you're more smart (or, wait, should I have used "perspicacious"?) than that!

Some people should absolutely not go to college.

What should I do then, counsellor?

You could start by realizing that everyone finds your pseudo-intellectual writing style annoying as fuck.  You could continue on by realizing you're not as smart as you think you are.  You could finish by drinking paint thinner.Buy a gun

Why waste time'd?

So, wait, I should kill myself because a couple of fools don't realize how hilarious and insanely intelligent I am? That seems to make sense... yep.

Ask'd and answer'd.

Wow, how devilishly clever!

Quote from: TDubbs on July 01, 2008, 02:43:19 PM

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Quote from: bocaj on July 01, 2008, 01:16:35 PM

Quote from: Kerm on July 01, 2008, 01:08:59 PM

Quote from: bocaj on July 01, 2008, 12:49:31 PM

Quote from: Jon on July 01, 2008, 09:21:10 AM

Quote from: bocaj on July 01, 2008, 12:54:56 AM
"A Bucket of Blood"?

That is one of my top five films ever.

Anyone who uses "sapience" instead of the much more common and pretty much synonymous "wisdom" probably needs to stop checking the thesaurus and just watch the movie before he decides to say "dipsomaniacal" in lieu of "drunk," or other such callow douchery.

I know what every word I use is and means before I use it (i.e., I don't look up synonyms). My lack of full comprehension of a particular word or usage of certain words that may not be most appropriate in their respective context does not equate me entering every word I use in a post to find similar words and then using said similar word in a newly updated post. C'mon, you're more smart (or, wait, should I have used "perspicacious"?) than that!

Some people should absolutely not go to college.

What should I do then, counsellor?

You could start by realizing that everyone finds your pseudo-intellectual writing style annoying as fuck.  You could continue on by realizing you're not as smart as you think you are.  You could finish by drinking paint thinner.Buy a gun

Why waste time'd?

So, wait, I should kill myself because a couple of fools don't realize how hilarious and insanely intelligent I am? That seems to make sense... yep.

Quote from: Kerm on July 01, 2008, 01:08:59 PM

Quote from: bocaj on July 01, 2008, 12:49:31 PM

Quote from: Jon on July 01, 2008, 09:21:10 AM

Quote from: bocaj on July 01, 2008, 12:54:56 AM
"A Bucket of Blood"?

That is one of my top five films ever.

Anyone who uses "sapience" instead of the much more common and pretty much synonymous "wisdom" probably needs to stop checking the thesaurus and just watch the movie before he decides to say "dipsomaniacal" in lieu of "drunk," or other such callow douchery.

I know what every word I use is and means before I use it (i.e., I don't look up synonyms). My lack of full comprehension of a particular word or usage of certain words that may not be most appropriate in their respective context does not equate me entering every word I use in a post to find similar words and then using said similar word in a newly updated post. C'mon, you're more smart (or, wait, should I have used "perspicacious"?) than that!

Some people should absolutely not go to college.

What should I do then, counsellor?

Quote from: Jon on July 01, 2008, 09:21:10 AM

Quote from: bocaj on July 01, 2008, 12:54:56 AM
"A Bucket of Blood"?

That is one of my top five films ever.

Anyone who uses "sapience" instead of the much more common and pretty much synonymous "wisdom" probably needs to stop checking the thesaurus and just watch the movie before he decides to say "dipsomaniacal" in lieu of "drunk," or other such callow douchery.

I know what every word I use is and means before I use it (i.e., I don't look up synonyms). My lack of full comprehension of a particular word or usage of certain words that may not be most appropriate in their respective context does not equate me entering every word I use in a post to find similar words and then using said similar word in a newly updated post. C'mon, you're more smart (or, wait, should I have used "perspicacious"?) than that!