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BeBe? What the fuck kind of name is BeBe?

Quote from: Tony on October 28, 2009, 02:03:24 PM

Quote from: Eli on October 28, 2009, 01:39:14 PM

Quote from: Dave B on October 28, 2009, 01:37:32 PM
Yeah, because encouraging teams to run up the score in hopes of securing a higher ranking is the sportsman-way to do things.

Who cares?

Because it's not entertaining to watch Goliath pummel David. A win against a small school doesn't prove anything no matter how many points they score.

Yep, why should Florida get bonus points for humiliating Florida International while somebody else is penalized for a close victory over a conference rival.

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 28, 2009, 10:11:48 AM

Quote from: BH on October 28, 2009, 09:57:07 AM
Judging by his contract, I'm guessing Hendry will be going after Gary Matthews Jr this offseason.

"Gary Matthews Jr. indicated Tuesday that he expects to begin the 2010 season with a team other than the Angels.
It's going to be tough for the Halos to dump the remainder of Matthews' five-year, $50 million contract on another club this winter. He hit .248/.325/.383 in the 2009 regular season with just four homers in 316 at-bats. But, he's now gone public with his desire to leave Anaheim and GM Tony Reagins is likely to shop around for trade partners. "I don't expect to be back; it's time to move on," said the outfielder. "I'm ready to play for an organization that wants me to play every day. This organization has other plans, and that's OK." Oct. 28 - 6:20 am et
Source: Los Angeles Times "

Gee. Matt. Jew.

He'd be a good fit in St. Louis.

Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2009, 04:54:29 PM

Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on October 26, 2009, 04:47:56 PM

Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 26, 2009, 04:33:26 PM

Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on October 26, 2009, 04:30:13 PM

Quote from: Dave B on October 26, 2009, 04:28:42 PM
Iowa has played only one sub-.500 team -- Arkansas State -- and the Hawkeyes' opponents have a .633 winning percentage (38-22) that is by far the best of any team in ranked in the AP top 10

But that doesn't seem to matter for some reason.

And it's always funny how the SEC pole smokers talk about how tough their league is right up until one of their schools gets beat in a bowl game. Then it's just "they only beat a 6th place team."

I understand some of your point but are you really trying to say that Big Ten is as good as the SEC? Because you're smoking some awesome shit if you are.

My point is that people like to pile on the Big 10 because it supposedly sucks yet Florida gets to play sacks of shit like Arkansas, Mississippi State and Vanderbilt. Not to mention its dogshit non-conference schedule - Charleston Southern, Troy, Florida International and the shittiest team FSU has fielded in 30 years.

Meanwhile, Iowa's played a ranked FCS team and two BCS conference teams and gets to run a road conference schedule of Penn State, Wisconsin, Michigan State and Ohio State. And they don't get to play Illinois.

If Iowa runs the table they would most certainly deserve to be in the national championship game ahead of a one-loss SEC team.

Vanderbilt went 7-6 last year and finished ahead of the South Carolina team the Hawkeyes beat. Arkansas is 3-4 with 3 losses to ranked teams. They are hardly anymore of a sack of dogshit than any of the mid-tier Big Ten teams Iowa gets to play. And Northern Iowa isn't ranked.

So if the mid-level SEC teams are, in your words "hardly anymore of a sack of dogshit than any of the mid-tier Big Ten teams", then I guess the SEC isn't that much better than the Big 10.

Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 26, 2009, 04:33:26 PM

Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on October 26, 2009, 04:30:13 PM

Quote from: Dave B on October 26, 2009, 04:28:42 PM
Iowa has played only one sub-.500 team -- Arkansas State -- and the Hawkeyes' opponents have a .633 winning percentage (38-22) that is by far the best of any team in ranked in the AP top 10

But that doesn't seem to matter for some reason.

And it's always funny how the SEC pole smokers talk about how tough their league is right up until one of their schools gets beat in a bowl game. Then it's just "they only beat a 6th place team."

I understand some of your point but are you really trying to say that Big Ten is as good as the SEC? Because you're smoking some awesome shit if you are.

My point is that people like to pile on the Big 10 because it supposedly sucks yet Florida gets to play sacks of shit like Arkansas, Mississippi State and Vanderbilt. Not to mention its dogshit non-conference schedule - Charleston Southern, Troy, Florida International and the shittiest team FSU has fielded in 30 years.

Meanwhile, Iowa's played a ranked FCS team and two BCS conference teams and gets to run a road conference schedule of Penn State, Wisconsin, Michigan State and Ohio State. And they don't get to play Illinois.

If Iowa runs the table they would most certainly deserve to be in the national championship game ahead of a one-loss SEC team.

Quote from: Dave B on October 26, 2009, 04:28:42 PM
Iowa has played only one sub-.500 team -- Arkansas State -- and the Hawkeyes' opponents have a .633 winning percentage (38-22) that is by far the best of any team in ranked in the AP top 10

But that doesn't seem to matter for some reason.

And it's always funny how the SEC pole smokers talk about how tough their league is right up until one of their schools gets beat in a bowl game. Then it's just "they only beat a 6th place team."

Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2009, 04:24:44 PM

Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on October 26, 2009, 02:01:39 PM

Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2009, 07:41:35 AM

Quote from: air2300 on October 25, 2009, 11:03:18 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 25, 2009, 10:50:15 PM

Quote from: air2300 on October 25, 2009, 10:16:47 PM

Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 25, 2009, 10:00:09 PM
Even though Chuck G is a butthole I'm going to announce my full support for Iowa for the rest of the season. I hope they can run the table just to see how this whole thing works when Florida and Texas are also undefeated.

I want to see righteous indignation.

Iowa wins the rights to get their ass beat by USC in the Rose bowl?

If Iowa runs the table, they'll win the right to get their ass beat by Florida or Alabama in the Rose Bowl in the BCS title game. They are already #1 in the BCS computers.  A win at the Shoe and they'll be in the top 3 in the voting polls once the Florida Alabama game is over.

Maybe.  That would hopefully mean end of the BCS.  But Texas will be playing in the game if they go undefeated.  Iowa will fall in the computers because more likely than not, undefeated team from the SEC will be ranked number 1 by the computers.  That hurts Iowa because undefeated Texas will be ranked number 2 in Harris and Coaches poll.

And then Iowa fans will piss and moan about the BCS not putting them in the title game. The Big Ten is god awful, and you can't convince me that Iowa wouldn't just get raped by a faster SEC, PAC 10, or Big 12 champion in a BCS bowl. They follow the same exact god damn formula that Penn State and Ohio State have followed for the last few years. Anyone who is denying the complete suckitude of the Big Ten really needs a wakeup call, because they're 15-28 in bowls since 2003. In that time they're 3-8 in BCS bowls, and the last time they won was in January of 2006. One was Penn State beating a 4 loss Florida State team that got in ass backwardly, and the other was Ohio State beating a 3 loss Notre Dame team that only got in because the system is biased in ND's favor the few times they've managed to run that cheesecake of a schedule to the amount of wins that should be automatic for such a "great" program. So yeah, the SEC, PAC 10, and Big 12 all have a better reason to claim that spot if they go undefeated, and hell, with the gauntlet that the SEC is they should consider a one loss SEC Champion over an undefeated Big Ten champ.

Updated just to note: Before any god damn Hawkeye fan comes back with "We're not coached by Jim Tressel" or some crap like that I'll just refer to the last time Ferentz got his club into a BCS Bowl.

Of course Iowa was the only Big 10 team to win it's bowl game last year and they beat one of those faster SEC teams. As a matter of fact, their last three bowl wins are against faster SEC schools.

Iowa has also played a tougher schedule than Florida, Texas, Alabama, TCU, Cincinnati and Boise State to this point. That's why they're No. 1 in the computer rankings. They aren't pretty to watch but they're getting it done.

That said, I just can't see them winning in Columbus. But even if they don't they'll still have a shot to play in the Rose Bowl because OSU is going to lose to Penn State.

Those two bowl wins came four and five years ago, back before the Big Ten had sunk into complete obscurity. Also, one of those bowl wins came against Ron Zook. And yes, nice job on last year's bowl win. They beat a 6th place, unranked SEC team, so they must be able to beat Florida, the team that's won two of the last three national championships. And that "tougher schedule" is based on win loss records. Which those teams got by playing other crappy Big Ten teams.

Good point. I'm sure Mississippi State, Arkansas and Vanderbilt would run the table if they played in the Big 10 this year. They're much tougher than Penn State, Michigan or Wisconsin.

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 26, 2009, 03:53:33 PM
Uh, yeah... That's not correct.

http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102204aad.html

QuoteMETHOD TO DETERMINE BIG TEN CONFERENCE AUTOMATIC
REPRESENTATIVE TO THE BOWL CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES

Effective for bowl games following the 2006-09 regular football seasons, the Bowl Championship Series (BCS) will consist of five (5) bowl games: BCS National Championship Game, Rose Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, Orange Bowl, and Sugar Bowl. Participation by a Big Ten Conference member institution will be determined as follows:

a. BCS National Championship Game. In the event the conference has one or two football teams ranked No. 1 and/or No. 2 in the final BCS poll, these conference team(s) shall participate in the BCS National Championship Game.

b. Rose Bowl. Unless ranked No. 1 or No. 2 in the final BCS poll, the conference champion shall participate in the Rose Bowl. The championship shall be determined on the percentage basis of conference games (tie games counts ½ win and ½ loss). If there is a tie for the championship, the Rose Bowl representative will be determined as follows:

1) An ineligible team shall not be considered in the standings for determination of the conference representative.
2) If there is a tie for the championship, the winner of the game between these two teams shall represent the conference.3) If there is still a tie for the championship, or if the tied teams did not play each other, the team that played more games against Football Championship Subdivision (FCS) teams shall be eliminated.
4) If there is still a tie, or if the tied teams did not play each other, or if both teams played the same number of games against an FCS team(s), the representative shall be determined on the percentage basis of all games played.
5) If there is still a tie, the most recent team earning BCS automatic selection shall be eliminated.

Total record could be a factor in that BCS Championship bid, I guess. Though I'm not going to strain myself to figure out how.

Huh, I thought the "team with the highest ranking in the BCS standings" was one of the tiebreakers. Guess not.

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 26, 2009, 02:41:14 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 26, 2009, 02:24:09 PM

Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on October 26, 2009, 02:01:39 PM
But even if they don't they'll still have a shot to play in the Rose Bowl because OSU is going to lose to Penn State.

Iowa goes to the Rose Bowl if they win out but for OSU.

That would mean that OSU gets another loss someplace. Whereabouts? I'm not saying they won't. And I'm not convinced Iowa won't beat them at Columbus. I think they're pretty ordinary.

OSU is going to lose to Penn State.

Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2009, 07:41:35 AM

Quote from: air2300 on October 25, 2009, 11:03:18 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 25, 2009, 10:50:15 PM

Quote from: air2300 on October 25, 2009, 10:16:47 PM

Quote from: Cillit Bang on October 25, 2009, 10:00:09 PM
Even though Chuck G is a butthole I'm going to announce my full support for Iowa for the rest of the season. I hope they can run the table just to see how this whole thing works when Florida and Texas are also undefeated.

I want to see righteous indignation.

Iowa wins the rights to get their ass beat by USC in the Rose bowl?

If Iowa runs the table, they'll win the right to get their ass beat by Florida or Alabama in the Rose Bowl in the BCS title game. They are already #1 in the BCS computers.  A win at the Shoe and they'll be in the top 3 in the voting polls once the Florida Alabama game is over.

Maybe.  That would hopefully mean end of the BCS.  But Texas will be playing in the game if they go undefeated.  Iowa will fall in the computers because more likely than not, undefeated team from the SEC will be ranked number 1 by the computers.  That hurts Iowa because undefeated Texas will be ranked number 2 in Harris and Coaches poll.

And then Iowa fans will piss and moan about the BCS not putting them in the title game. The Big Ten is god awful, and you can't convince me that Iowa wouldn't just get raped by a faster SEC, PAC 10, or Big 12 champion in a BCS bowl. They follow the same exact god damn formula that Penn State and Ohio State have followed for the last few years. Anyone who is denying the complete suckitude of the Big Ten really needs a wakeup call, because they're 15-28 in bowls since 2003. In that time they're 3-8 in BCS bowls, and the last time they won was in January of 2006. One was Penn State beating a 4 loss Florida State team that got in ass backwardly, and the other was Ohio State beating a 3 loss Notre Dame team that only got in because the system is biased in ND's favor the few times they've managed to run that cheesecake of a schedule to the amount of wins that should be automatic for such a "great" program. So yeah, the SEC, PAC 10, and Big 12 all have a better reason to claim that spot if they go undefeated, and hell, with the gauntlet that the SEC is they should consider a one loss SEC Champion over an undefeated Big Ten champ.

Updated just to note: Before any god damn Hawkeye fan comes back with "We're not coached by Jim Tressel" or some crap like that I'll just refer to the last time Ferentz got his club into a BCS Bowl.

Of course Iowa was the only Big 10 team to win it's bowl game last year and they beat one of those faster SEC teams. As a matter of fact, their last three bowl wins are against faster SEC schools.

Iowa has also played a tougher schedule than Florida, Texas, Alabama, TCU, Cincinnati and Boise State to this point. That's why they're No. 1 in the computer rankings. They aren't pretty to watch but they're getting it done.

That said, I just can't see them winning in Columbus. But even if they don't they'll still have a shot to play in the Rose Bowl because OSU is going to lose to Penn State.

Quote from: Internet Apex on October 25, 2009, 09:12:40 PM
Do fans in other cities have to deal with this kind of shit as often as we do? I guess in Cincinnati they do. This was their Super Bowl. Hip hooray and fuck them.

Pitchers and catchers report in five months so we've got that going for us.

Quote from: fiveouts on October 25, 2009, 08:44:27 PM
I'm so happy that Benson got revenge against the Bears for picking him #4 overall, putting up with his holdout, giving him millions of dollars, handing him an (undeserved) starting job, standing by him after his first DUI, then finally releasing him after his second within a month.  Its great to see stories of perseverance like that. 

Me too. I'm as happy about this as I was about Dennis Eckersley cleaning himself up after he left the Cubs.

Quote from: IrishYeti on October 25, 2009, 06:19:35 PM

Quote from: Ghost of Dave Rosello on October 25, 2009, 06:09:49 PM
Hey, at least they'll get a good first round pick this year...

Damn the Bears for trading for Cutler

Nah. But even when the do the right thing it bites them in the ass.

Hey, at least they'll get a good first round pick this year...