McCaskey Family/Chicago Park District Cheap/Dumbassery Thread

[Dr. Nguyen Van Falk]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/joe_posnanski/05/25/super.bowl.ny/index.html

Basically here is the thing I haven't liked: Pro football, for the most part, has lost the weather. And that's terrible. I'm not saying football is a cold-weather sport ... I'm saying it's an all-weather sport. And they have more or less legislated snow and rain and ice and mud out of the game. Oh, it's still there in places -- in Green Bay and Chicago and Boston and Kansas City and so on -- but these days it's not just possible but quite likely that at least one team will make it to the Super Bowl without facing the weather at all. Last year, Indianapolis and New Orleans made it to the Super Bowl without playing outdoors once in the playoffs ... and then they played the game itself in a Miami suburb.

A year earlier, Arizona made it to the Super Bowl in a playoff run that included one outdoor game -- in Charlotte.

There have been dome teams in four of the last five Super Bowls, and while I have no qualms with domes, it sure would be nice to see those teams tested at least once outdoors, in the snow, in the mud, in whatever weather happens to come up.

This is because I think weather is a big part of football. Not just cold weather. Hot weather too. Muggy weather. Windy weather. All weather. To me, weather is one of the main things that separates it from our other major sports. Hockey and basketball are indoors, in controlled environments. Baseball is not built for extreme weather, and when it gets played in the snow, it feels like a farce. The strange thing is that baseball games are being played later and later in the year, bringing in more and more inclement weather. That's the screwy way of our sports world. While baseball is being played more in the snow, football is being played less.

...

... From a sporting side, I've always thought that a cold-weather Super Bowl now and again makes a lot of sense. You have to love Bill Cowher's classic line: "Yeah, I'd like 75 degrees and sunny all the time, too, but that's not football." It's not. Football, like life, has sunny days, but also involves storms and mud and times when you can't stop shivering. Football, like life, involves unfair bounces and sudden bursts of wind and trying to catch wobbly passes with frostbitten fingers. Football, like life, brings out those days when you look out your window and wish you could just stay in bed. Football is 34-27. It's also 7-6.

...

You might remember that for a long, long time no dome team had ever won a Super Bowl -- the Rams were the first in 1999, and since then the Colts (2006) and Saints (last year) have followed. Anyway, no dome team won for a long time and I remember asking Kansas City Chiefs owner Lamar Hunt why that was. And he said: "Because sooner or later, you have to come out and play." I've always loved that line, but lately it hasn't really been accurate. In the last few years, you could win a Super Bowl without ever really facing the elements. That's a part of life now, a part of the game, and I get that. There are more domes now than ever. There are more warm-weather cities now than ever. Pro football has created its own bit of global warming.

And that's fine. But it's great that at least for one year, yes, if you want to be the best team in the NFL, you will have to come out and play.

That.

[Yeti]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/joe_posnanski/05/25/super.bowl.ny/index.html

Basically here is the thing I haven't liked: Pro football, for the most part, has lost the weather. And that's terrible. I'm not saying football is a cold-weather sport ... I'm saying it's an all-weather sport. And they have more or less legislated snow and rain and ice and mud out of the game. Oh, it's still there in places -- in Green Bay and Chicago and Boston and Kansas City and so on -- but these days it's not just possible but quite likely that at least one team will make it to the Super Bowl without facing the weather at all. Last year, Indianapolis and New Orleans made it to the Super Bowl without playing outdoors once in the playoffs ... and then they played the game itself in a Miami suburb.

A year earlier, Arizona made it to the Super Bowl in a playoff run that included one outdoor game -- in Charlotte.

There have been dome teams in four of the last five Super Bowls, and while I have no qualms with domes, it sure would be nice to see those teams tested at least once outdoors, in the snow, in the mud, in whatever weather happens to come up.

This is because I think weather is a big part of football. Not just cold weather. Hot weather too. Muggy weather. Windy weather. All weather. To me, weather is one of the main things that separates it from our other major sports. Hockey and basketball are indoors, in controlled environments. Baseball is not built for extreme weather, and when it gets played in the snow, it feels like a farce. The strange thing is that baseball games are being played later and later in the year, bringing in more and more inclement weather. That's the screwy way of our sports world. While baseball is being played more in the snow, football is being played less.

...

... From a sporting side, I've always thought that a cold-weather Super Bowl now and again makes a lot of sense. You have to love Bill Cowher's classic line: "Yeah, I'd like 75 degrees and sunny all the time, too, but that's not football." It's not. Football, like life, has sunny days, but also involves storms and mud and times when you can't stop shivering. Football, like life, involves unfair bounces and sudden bursts of wind and trying to catch wobbly passes with frostbitten fingers. Football, like life, brings out those days when you look out your window and wish you could just stay in bed. Football is 34-27. It's also 7-6.

...

You might remember that for a long, long time no dome team had ever won a Super Bowl -- the Rams were the first in 1999, and since then the Colts (2006) and Saints (last year) have followed. Anyway, no dome team won for a long time and I remember asking Kansas City Chiefs owner Lamar Hunt why that was. And he said: "Because sooner or later, you have to come out and play." I've always loved that line, but lately it hasn't really been accurate. In the last few years, you could win a Super Bowl without ever really facing the elements. That's a part of life now, a part of the game, and I get that. There are more domes now than ever. There are more warm-weather cities now than ever. Pro football has created its own bit of global warming.

And that's fine. But it's great that at least for one year, yes, if you want to be the best team in the NFL, you will have to come out and play.

That.

That gave me wood

[Bort]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/joe_posnanski/05/25/super.bowl.ny/index.html

Basically here is the thing I haven't liked: Pro football, for the most part, has lost the weather. And that's terrible. I'm not saying football is a cold-weather sport ... I'm saying it's an all-weather sport. And they have more or less legislated snow and rain and ice and mud out of the game. Oh, it's still there in places -- in Green Bay and Chicago and Boston and Kansas City and so on -- but these days it's not just possible but quite likely that at least one team will make it to the Super Bowl without facing the weather at all. Last year, Indianapolis and New Orleans made it to the Super Bowl without playing outdoors once in the playoffs ... and then they played the game itself in a Miami suburb.

A year earlier, Arizona made it to the Super Bowl in a playoff run that included one outdoor game -- in Charlotte.

There have been dome teams in four of the last five Super Bowls, and while I have no qualms with domes, it sure would be nice to see those teams tested at least once outdoors, in the snow, in the mud, in whatever weather happens to come up.

This is because I think weather is a big part of football. Not just cold weather. Hot weather too. Muggy weather. Windy weather. All weather. To me, weather is one of the main things that separates it from our other major sports. Hockey and basketball are indoors, in controlled environments. Baseball is not built for extreme weather, and when it gets played in the snow, it feels like a farce. The strange thing is that baseball games are being played later and later in the year, bringing in more and more inclement weather. That's the screwy way of our sports world. While baseball is being played more in the snow, football is being played less.

...

... From a sporting side, I've always thought that a cold-weather Super Bowl now and again makes a lot of sense. You have to love Bill Cowher's classic line: "Yeah, I'd like 75 degrees and sunny all the time, too, but that's not football." It's not. Football, like life, has sunny days, but also involves storms and mud and times when you can't stop shivering. Football, like life, involves unfair bounces and sudden bursts of wind and trying to catch wobbly passes with frostbitten fingers. Football, like life, brings out those days when you look out your window and wish you could just stay in bed. Football is 34-27. It's also 7-6.

...

You might remember that for a long, long time no dome team had ever won a Super Bowl -- the Rams were the first in 1999, and since then the Colts (2006) and Saints (last year) have followed. Anyway, no dome team won for a long time and I remember asking Kansas City Chiefs owner Lamar Hunt why that was. And he said: "Because sooner or later, you have to come out and play." I've always loved that line, but lately it hasn't really been accurate. In the last few years, you could win a Super Bowl without ever really facing the elements. That's a part of life now, a part of the game, and I get that. There are more domes now than ever. There are more warm-weather cities now than ever. Pro football has created its own bit of global warming.

And that's fine. But it's great that at least for one year, yes, if you want to be the best team in the NFL, you will have to come out and play.

That.

That gave me wood

That made me want to make fun of PenFoe. Not sure why. It just did.

[PenPho]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/joe_posnanski/05/25/super.bowl.ny/index.html

Basically here is the thing I haven't liked: Pro football, for the most part, has lost the weather. And that's terrible. I'm not saying football is a cold-weather sport ... I'm saying it's an all-weather sport. And they have more or less legislated snow and rain and ice and mud out of the game. Oh, it's still there in places -- in Green Bay and Chicago and Boston and Kansas City and so on -- but these days it's not just possible but quite likely that at least one team will make it to the Super Bowl without facing the weather at all. Last year, Indianapolis and New Orleans made it to the Super Bowl without playing outdoors once in the playoffs ... and then they played the game itself in a Miami suburb.

A year earlier, Arizona made it to the Super Bowl in a playoff run that included one outdoor game -- in Charlotte.

There have been dome teams in four of the last five Super Bowls, and while I have no qualms with domes, it sure would be nice to see those teams tested at least once outdoors, in the snow, in the mud, in whatever weather happens to come up.

This is because I think weather is a big part of football. Not just cold weather. Hot weather too. Muggy weather. Windy weather. All weather. To me, weather is one of the main things that separates it from our other major sports. Hockey and basketball are indoors, in controlled environments. Baseball is not built for extreme weather, and when it gets played in the snow, it feels like a farce. The strange thing is that baseball games are being played later and later in the year, bringing in more and more inclement weather. That's the screwy way of our sports world. While baseball is being played more in the snow, football is being played less.

...

... From a sporting side, I've always thought that a cold-weather Super Bowl now and again makes a lot of sense. You have to love Bill Cowher's classic line: "Yeah, I'd like 75 degrees and sunny all the time, too, but that's not football." It's not. Football, like life, has sunny days, but also involves storms and mud and times when you can't stop shivering. Football, like life, involves unfair bounces and sudden bursts of wind and trying to catch wobbly passes with frostbitten fingers. Football, like life, brings out those days when you look out your window and wish you could just stay in bed. Football is 34-27. It's also 7-6.

...

You might remember that for a long, long time no dome team had ever won a Super Bowl -- the Rams were the first in 1999, and since then the Colts (2006) and Saints (last year) have followed. Anyway, no dome team won for a long time and I remember asking Kansas City Chiefs owner Lamar Hunt why that was. And he said: "Because sooner or later, you have to come out and play." I've always loved that line, but lately it hasn't really been accurate. In the last few years, you could win a Super Bowl without ever really facing the elements. That's a part of life now, a part of the game, and I get that. There are more domes now than ever. There are more warm-weather cities now than ever. Pro football has created its own bit of global warming.

And that's fine. But it's great that at least for one year, yes, if you want to be the best team in the NFL, you will have to come out and play.

That.

That gave me wood

That made me want to make fun of PenFoe. Not sure why. It just did.

Don't look at me, I don't root for some sorry ass Dome team.

Make fun of TEC.

[Quality Start Machine]

I'm just happy the Giants get another home game without a city getting wiped out by a hurricane.

[Bort]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/joe_posnanski/05/25/super.bowl.ny/index.html

Basically here is the thing I haven't liked: Pro football, for the most part, has lost the weather. And that's terrible. I'm not saying football is a cold-weather sport ... I'm saying it's an all-weather sport. And they have more or less legislated snow and rain and ice and mud out of the game. Oh, it's still there in places -- in Green Bay and Chicago and Boston and Kansas City and so on -- but these days it's not just possible but quite likely that at least one team will make it to the Super Bowl without facing the weather at all. Last year, Indianapolis and New Orleans made it to the Super Bowl without playing outdoors once in the playoffs ... and then they played the game itself in a Miami suburb.

A year earlier, Arizona made it to the Super Bowl in a playoff run that included one outdoor game -- in Charlotte.

There have been dome teams in four of the last five Super Bowls, and while I have no qualms with domes, it sure would be nice to see those teams tested at least once outdoors, in the snow, in the mud, in whatever weather happens to come up.

This is because I think weather is a big part of football. Not just cold weather. Hot weather too. Muggy weather. Windy weather. All weather. To me, weather is one of the main things that separates it from our other major sports. Hockey and basketball are indoors, in controlled environments. Baseball is not built for extreme weather, and when it gets played in the snow, it feels like a farce. The strange thing is that baseball games are being played later and later in the year, bringing in more and more inclement weather. That's the screwy way of our sports world. While baseball is being played more in the snow, football is being played less.

...

... From a sporting side, I've always thought that a cold-weather Super Bowl now and again makes a lot of sense. You have to love Bill Cowher's classic line: "Yeah, I'd like 75 degrees and sunny all the time, too, but that's not football." It's not. Football, like life, has sunny days, but also involves storms and mud and times when you can't stop shivering. Football, like life, involves unfair bounces and sudden bursts of wind and trying to catch wobbly passes with frostbitten fingers. Football, like life, brings out those days when you look out your window and wish you could just stay in bed. Football is 34-27. It's also 7-6.

...

You might remember that for a long, long time no dome team had ever won a Super Bowl -- the Rams were the first in 1999, and since then the Colts (2006) and Saints (last year) have followed. Anyway, no dome team won for a long time and I remember asking Kansas City Chiefs owner Lamar Hunt why that was. And he said: "Because sooner or later, you have to come out and play." I've always loved that line, but lately it hasn't really been accurate. In the last few years, you could win a Super Bowl without ever really facing the elements. That's a part of life now, a part of the game, and I get that. There are more domes now than ever. There are more warm-weather cities now than ever. Pro football has created its own bit of global warming.

And that's fine. But it's great that at least for one year, yes, if you want to be the best team in the NFL, you will have to come out and play.

That.

That gave me wood

That made me want to make fun of PenFoe. Not sure why. It just did.

Don't look at me, I don't root for some sorry ass Dome team.

Make fun of TEC.

Yeah, but you live in some sorry ass Dome state.

[Brownie]

I'm just happy the Giants get another home game without a city getting wiped out by a hurricane.

While watching Mayor Bloomberg do a post-winning bid touchdown dance that made Deion Sanders look like Jim Brown, I wondered:

Do other big city mayors get excited about an event taking place in a neighboring state? I wonder if Mayor Daley is bursting with civic pride with the Indy 500 taking place this weekend.

[PenPho]

I'm just happy the Giants get another home game without a city getting wiped out by a hurricane.

While watching Mayor Bloomberg do a post-winning bid touchdown dance that made Deion Sanders look like Jim Brown, I wondered:

Do other big city mayors get excited about an event taking place in a neighboring state? I wonder if Mayor Daley is bursting with civic pride with the Indy 500 taking place this weekend.

He would if all the hotel rooms and big parties were going to be in Chicago.

[MAD]

I'm just happy the Giants get another home game without a city getting wiped out by a hurricane.

While watching Mayor Bloomberg do a post-winning bid touchdown dance that made Deion Sanders look like Jim Brown, I wondered:

Do other big city mayors get excited about an event taking place in a neighboring state? I wonder if Mayor Daley is bursting with civic pride with the Indy 500 taking place this weekend.

He would if all the hotel rooms and big parties and were going to be in Chicago.

The whole "were"?

[Quality Start Machine]

I'm just happy the Giants get another home game without a city getting wiped out by a hurricane.

While watching Mayor Bloomberg do a post-winning bid touchdown dance that made Deion Sanders look like Jim Brown, I wondered:

Do other big city mayors get excited about an event taking place in a neighboring state? I wonder if Mayor Daley is bursting with civic pride with the Indy 500 taking place this weekend.

He would if all the hotel rooms and big parties were going to be in Chicago.

Wait, the Playboy Party won't be in the Secaucus Hampton Inn?

[Saul Goodman]

Wow, can't believe this thread is three years old.  Anyway, it sounds like Sunday's surface conditions at Soldier Field could get absolutely shitty.  How unusual.