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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2010, 11:55:42 AM »
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2010, 12:50:23 PM »
I agree with Weebs.  It's very good so far.  Much more shootery than the first one.  And it doesn't waste any time getting you right into the action.  If you don't remember much of the first one (as I didn't, really), it might be worth reading the Wiki.  You don't NEED the backstory of the first game, but it will certainly make the second one more interesting.

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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2010, 09:53:04 AM »
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I agree with Weebs.  It's very good so far.  Much more shootery than the first one.  And it doesn't waste any time getting you right into the action.  If you don't remember much of the first one (as I didn't, really), it might be worth reading the Wiki.  You don't NEED the backstory of the first game, but it will certainly make the second one more interesting.

I'm not sure what difficulty you're playing on, but have you found the enemy AI to be incredibly powerful at times?  I think I'm still just getting used to the fact that this is much more of a cover shooter ala Gears of War than it is an RPG like the first one, but there have been a few spots so far where I've died 5 or 6 times before finally getting through a room.  Particularly, the Archangel mission was tough as hell at a few points.  Also, I wish they had done a little more to explain what the new guns actually do.  I got a new assault rifle and decided to try it out, but then right when I started the next fight, I found out it fired burst rounds and only had an ammo capacity of 139, as opposed to 400 for the default.  It still worked well, but considering they only let you change your weapons at a Weapon Loadout, it would be better to know exactly what you're using when you find something new.  Even still, this game is awesome.  Incredibly overwhelming in the sheer size of the world and dialog options, but awesome.

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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2010, 11:03:36 AM »
Quote from: Weebs on January 28, 2010, 09:53:04 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 27, 2010, 12:50:23 PM
I agree with Weebs.  It's very good so far.  Much more shootery than the first one.  And it doesn't waste any time getting you right into the action.  If you don't remember much of the first one (as I didn't, really), it might be worth reading the Wiki.  You don't NEED the backstory of the first game, but it will certainly make the second one more interesting.

I'm not sure what difficulty you're playing on, but have you found the enemy AI to be incredibly powerful at times?  I think I'm still just getting used to the fact that this is much more of a cover shooter ala Gears of War than it is an RPG like the first one, but there have been a few spots so far where I've died 5 or 6 times before finally getting through a room.  Particularly, the Archangel mission was tough as hell at a few points.  Also, I wish they had done a little more to explain what the new guns actually do.  I got a new assault rifle and decided to try it out, but then right when I started the next fight, I found out it fired burst rounds and only had an ammo capacity of 139, as opposed to 400 for the default.  It still worked well, but considering they only let you change your weapons at a Weapon Loadout, it would be better to know exactly what you're using when you find something new.  Even still, this game is awesome.  Incredibly overwhelming in the sheer size of the world and dialog options, but awesome.

I don't know what difficulty I'm playing on, but the fact that I've died at all means it's already more challenging than the first one.  I've died a couple of times after getting flanked by the enemy AI, but I don't think I'm as far into the game as you are.  My AI partners fight like warrior poets, I can tell you that much.  Did you get the doctor first?  They suggested doing that, because he can upgrade your weapons.  Plus, he talks CAH-RAZY!  Like a space alien!

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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2010, 11:20:47 AM »
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 28, 2010, 11:03:36 AM
Quote from: Weebs on January 28, 2010, 09:53:04 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 27, 2010, 12:50:23 PM
I agree with Weebs.  It's very good so far.  Much more shootery than the first one.  And it doesn't waste any time getting you right into the action.  If you don't remember much of the first one (as I didn't, really), it might be worth reading the Wiki.  You don't NEED the backstory of the first game, but it will certainly make the second one more interesting.

I'm not sure what difficulty you're playing on, but have you found the enemy AI to be incredibly powerful at times?  I think I'm still just getting used to the fact that this is much more of a cover shooter ala Gears of War than it is an RPG like the first one, but there have been a few spots so far where I've died 5 or 6 times before finally getting through a room.  Particularly, the Archangel mission was tough as hell at a few points.  Also, I wish they had done a little more to explain what the new guns actually do.  I got a new assault rifle and decided to try it out, but then right when I started the next fight, I found out it fired burst rounds and only had an ammo capacity of 139, as opposed to 400 for the default.  It still worked well, but considering they only let you change your weapons at a Weapon Loadout, it would be better to know exactly what you're using when you find something new.  Even still, this game is awesome.  Incredibly overwhelming in the sheer size of the world and dialog options, but awesome.

I don't know what difficulty I'm playing on, but the fact that I've died at all means it's already more challenging than the first one.  I've died a couple of times after getting flanked by the enemy AI, but I don't think I'm as far into the game as you are.  My AI partners fight like warrior poets, I can tell you that much.  Did you get the doctor first?  They suggested doing that, because he can upgrade your weapons.  Plus, he talks CAH-RAZY!  Like a space alien!

Yeah, I picked up the doctor and did the Archangel mission (won't spoil that one if you haven't played it), since they were both on Omega.  The doctor is pretty awesome.  I think I'm going to do the Convict mission next.  I just want to get the super cool Space Assassin.

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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2010, 09:30:10 AM »
I finished ME2 this weekend.  The ending has a big-budget Hollywood movie feel to it, even if the end "boss" is a tad ridiculous.  I'm thinking of playing it through again on Renegade.  It's one of the best games I've ever played.  I highly recommend it.

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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #36 on: February 15, 2010, 05:53:11 PM »
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I finished ME2 this weekend.  The ending has a big-budget Hollywood movie feel to it, even if the end "boss" is a tad ridiculous.  I'm thinking of playing it through again on Renegade.  It's one of the best games I've ever played.  I highly recommend it.

I just beat it, too.  Definitely an epic ending, and I agree that the end boss is very over-the-top.  I'm really curious to see the different outcomes based on your team's loyalty, what ship upgrades you got, etc.  I survived everything, then purposely sent Zaeed to help Dr. Chawkwas, assuming he would die.  He did.  I was glad.  What I was not happy about, however, was the fact that Mordin died for no reason.  I had his loyalty, as well as everyone else's on the crew, but somehow he died during the firefight at the end.  Couldn't they have picked Jacob, or Legion, or some other character that wasn't as unbelievably awesome as Mordin?  They should just rebuild him in Mass Effect 3.

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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #37 on: February 16, 2010, 08:06:17 AM »
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I just beat it, too. 


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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2010, 09:39:04 AM »
Quote from: Weebs on February 15, 2010, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 15, 2010, 09:30:10 AM
I finished ME2 this weekend.  The ending has a big-budget Hollywood movie feel to it, even if the end "boss" is a tad ridiculous.  I'm thinking of playing it through again on Renegade.  It's one of the best games I've ever played.  I highly recommend it.

I just beat it, too.  Definitely an epic ending, and I agree that the end boss is very over-the-top.  I'm really curious to see the different outcomes based on your team's loyalty, what ship upgrades you got, etc.  I survived everything, then purposely sent Zaeed to help Dr. Chawkwas, assuming he would die.  He did.  I was glad.  What I was not happy about, however, was the fact that Mordin died for no reason.  I had his loyalty, as well as everyone else's on the crew, but somehow he died during the firefight at the end.  Couldn't they have picked Jacob, or Legion, or some other character that wasn't as unbelievably awesome as Mordin?  They should just rebuild him in Mass Effect 3.

That's interesting about Mordin.  Since who you pick has an outcome on the ending, I'm going to SPOILERS this:

At first, I picked Thane to go through the vents, figuring he was going to die soon, anyhow, and not thinking that if I sent a tech person, they might make it through unscathed.  I sent Miranda on both leadership missions, and I sent Mordin to bring the rest of the crew back to the Normandy.  For the final mission, I brought Miranda and Garrus with me.  Thane died, and everyone else survived.  I had a save right before the ending, so I tried it again with everything the same, but this time I sent Tali'Zorah through the vents, and everyone lived.

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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2010, 10:11:46 AM »
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 16, 2010, 09:39:04 AM
Quote from: Weebs on February 15, 2010, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 15, 2010, 09:30:10 AM
I finished ME2 this weekend.  The ending has a big-budget Hollywood movie feel to it, even if the end "boss" is a tad ridiculous.  I'm thinking of playing it through again on Renegade.  It's one of the best games I've ever played.  I highly recommend it.

I just beat it, too.  Definitely an epic ending, and I agree that the end boss is very over-the-top.  I'm really curious to see the different outcomes based on your team's loyalty, what ship upgrades you got, etc.  I survived everything, then purposely sent Zaeed to help Dr. Chawkwas, assuming he would die.  He did.  I was glad.  What I was not happy about, however, was the fact that Mordin died for no reason.  I had his loyalty, as well as everyone else's on the crew, but somehow he died during the firefight at the end.  Couldn't they have picked Jacob, or Legion, or some other character that wasn't as unbelievably awesome as Mordin?  They should just rebuild him in Mass Effect 3.

That's interesting about Mordin.  Since who you pick has an outcome on the ending, I'm going to SPOILERS this:

At first, I picked Thane to go through the vents, figuring he was going to die soon, anyhow, and not thinking that if I sent a tech person, they might make it through unscathed.  I sent Miranda on both leadership missions, and I sent Mordin to bring the rest of the crew back to the Normandy.  For the final mission, I brought Miranda and Garrus with me.  Thane died, and everyone else survived.  I had a save right before the ending, so I tried it again with everything the same, but this time I sent Tali'Zorah through the vents, and everyone lived.

I sent Tali through the vents, let Garrus lead each fire team, had Samara use the biotic field, and sent Zaeed to die escorting the people back (I really hate that guy and wanted him dead).  I think the problem is that I let Mordin lead the final team, and brought Garrus and Miranda with me.  I'm thinking about loading up my last save (which wasn't until right before I jumped through the Omega-4 Relay) and doing everything the same, except I'll send Garrus to lead the last team and bring Mordin with.  The key, other than having loyalty from everybody, seems to be sending a good tech user for the vents, biotic user for the shield, a good leader for the fire teams (so Miranda or Garrus), and then someone a little more powerful for the escort mission (Grunt would probably work).  I was reading about some of the alternate endings, how players can die, etc. and you can definitely have pretty much your entire crew, as well as Shepard, all die by the end of the mission.  It's pretty awesome, but I definitely don't want to go into Mass Effect 3 with Mordin being a corpse.  He's an awesome character.

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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2010, 11:15:03 AM »
Will you guys stop whispering to each other?  You're making Mom's Basement gheyer than usual.
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2010, 11:44:10 AM »
Quote from: Weebs on February 16, 2010, 10:11:46 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 16, 2010, 09:39:04 AM
Quote from: Weebs on February 15, 2010, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 15, 2010, 09:30:10 AM
I finished ME2 this weekend.  The ending has a big-budget Hollywood movie feel to it, even if the end "boss" is a tad ridiculous.  I'm thinking of playing it through again on Renegade.  It's one of the best games I've ever played.  I highly recommend it.

I just beat it, too.  Definitely an epic ending, and I agree that the end boss is very over-the-top.  I'm really curious to see the different outcomes based on your team's loyalty, what ship upgrades you got, etc.  I survived everything, then purposely sent Zaeed to help Dr. Chawkwas, assuming he would die.  He did.  I was glad.  What I was not happy about, however, was the fact that Mordin died for no reason.  I had his loyalty, as well as everyone else's on the crew, but somehow he died during the firefight at the end.  Couldn't they have picked Jacob, or Legion, or some other character that wasn't as unbelievably awesome as Mordin?  They should just rebuild him in Mass Effect 3.

That's interesting about Mordin.  Since who you pick has an outcome on the ending, I'm going to SPOILERS this:

At first, I picked Thane to go through the vents, figuring he was going to die soon, anyhow, and not thinking that if I sent a tech person, they might make it through unscathed.  I sent Miranda on both leadership missions, and I sent Mordin to bring the rest of the crew back to the Normandy.  For the final mission, I brought Miranda and Garrus with me.  Thane died, and everyone else survived.  I had a save right before the ending, so I tried it again with everything the same, but this time I sent Tali'Zorah through the vents, and everyone lived.

I sent Tali through the vents, let Garrus lead each fire team, had Samara use the biotic field, and sent Zaeed to die escorting the people back (I really hate that guy and wanted him dead).  I think the problem is that I let Mordin lead the final team, and brought Garrus and Miranda with me.  I'm thinking about loading up my last save (which wasn't until right before I jumped through the Omega-4 Relay) and doing everything the same, except I'll send Garrus to lead the last team and bring Mordin with.  The key, other than having loyalty from everybody, seems to be sending a good tech user for the vents, biotic user for the shield, a good leader for the fire teams (so Miranda or Garrus), and then someone a little more powerful for the escort mission (Grunt would probably work).  I was reading about some of the alternate endings, how players can die, etc. and you can definitely have pretty much your entire crew, as well as Shepard, all die by the end of the mission.  It's pretty awesome, but I definitely don't want to go into Mass Effect 3 with Mordin being a corpse.  He's an awesome character.

Yeah, Zaeed sucks.  I forgot about the biotic one.  I used Samara, and she obviously made it through.  I must have gotten lucky picking Mordin for the escort mission.  I actually sent him because I didn't think he WAS that strong, so I figured I wouldn't need him as much for the rest of the game.  I wonder what happens when you leave the rest of your crew to die.

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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #42 on: February 16, 2010, 11:44:53 AM »
Quote from: MAD on February 16, 2010, 11:15:03 AM
Will you guys stop whispering to each other?  You're making Mom's Basement gheyer than usual.

These are spoilers.

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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2010, 01:32:23 PM »
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 16, 2010, 11:44:10 AM
Quote from: Weebs on February 16, 2010, 10:11:46 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 16, 2010, 09:39:04 AM
Quote from: Weebs on February 15, 2010, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 15, 2010, 09:30:10 AM
I finished ME2 this weekend.  The ending has a big-budget Hollywood movie feel to it, even if the end "boss" is a tad ridiculous.  I'm thinking of playing it through again on Renegade.  It's one of the best games I've ever played.  I highly recommend it.

I just beat it, too.  Definitely an epic ending, and I agree that the end boss is very over-the-top.  I'm really curious to see the different outcomes based on your team's loyalty, what ship upgrades you got, etc.  I survived everything, then purposely sent Zaeed to help Dr. Chawkwas, assuming he would die.  He did.  I was glad.  What I was not happy about, however, was the fact that Mordin died for no reason.  I had his loyalty, as well as everyone else's on the crew, but somehow he died during the firefight at the end.  Couldn't they have picked Jacob, or Legion, or some other character that wasn't as unbelievably awesome as Mordin?  They should just rebuild him in Mass Effect 3.

That's interesting about Mordin.  Since who you pick has an outcome on the ending, I'm going to SPOILERS this:

At first, I picked Thane to go through the vents, figuring he was going to die soon, anyhow, and not thinking that if I sent a tech person, they might make it through unscathed.  I sent Miranda on both leadership missions, and I sent Mordin to bring the rest of the crew back to the Normandy.  For the final mission, I brought Miranda and Garrus with me.  Thane died, and everyone else survived.  I had a save right before the ending, so I tried it again with everything the same, but this time I sent Tali'Zorah through the vents, and everyone lived.

I sent Tali through the vents, let Garrus lead each fire team, had Samara use the biotic field, and sent Zaeed to die escorting the people back (I really hate that guy and wanted him dead).  I think the problem is that I let Mordin lead the final team, and brought Garrus and Miranda with me.  I'm thinking about loading up my last save (which wasn't until right before I jumped through the Omega-4 Relay) and doing everything the same, except I'll send Garrus to lead the last team and bring Mordin with.  The key, other than having loyalty from everybody, seems to be sending a good tech user for the vents, biotic user for the shield, a good leader for the fire teams (so Miranda or Garrus), and then someone a little more powerful for the escort mission (Grunt would probably work).  I was reading about some of the alternate endings, how players can die, etc. and you can definitely have pretty much your entire crew, as well as Shepard, all die by the end of the mission.  It's pretty awesome, but I definitely don't want to go into Mass Effect 3 with Mordin being a corpse.  He's an awesome character.

Yeah, Zaeed sucks.  I forgot about the biotic one.  I used Samara, and she obviously made it through.  I must have gotten lucky picking Mordin for the escort mission.  I actually sent him because I didn't think he WAS that strong, so I figured I wouldn't need him as much for the rest of the game.  I wonder what happens when you leave the rest of your crew to die.

I'm guessing pretty much everyone survives the escort mission if they're loyal.  I was a dick to Zaeed during his loyalty mission, so he didn't want to be my friend.  He paid the price.

I wouldn't be surprised if you could end the game with basically nobody left alive.  I know both your teammates can die after the final boss fight, someone can die in the vent, during the biotic part, in the escort mission, in the fire team, when you pass through the relay...pretty much at any point.  And it's possible to have Shepard die during that final jump onto the shuttle.  He tells Joker to let go, falls to his death, and then Joker is the one talking to the Illusive Man at the end.  Of course, I'm sure they'd somehow "rebuild" Shepard again in Mass Effect 3 if you get that ending. 

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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #44 on: February 16, 2010, 02:03:59 PM »
Quote from: Weebs on February 16, 2010, 01:32:23 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 16, 2010, 11:44:10 AM
Quote from: Weebs on February 16, 2010, 10:11:46 AM
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Quote from: Kermit IV on February 15, 2010, 09:30:10 AM
I finished ME2 this weekend.  The ending has a big-budget Hollywood movie feel to it, even if the end "boss" is a tad ridiculous.  I'm thinking of playing it through again on Renegade.  It's one of the best games I've ever played.  I highly recommend it.

I just beat it, too.  Definitely an epic ending, and I agree that the end boss is very over-the-top.  I'm really curious to see the different outcomes based on your team's loyalty, what ship upgrades you got, etc.  I survived everything, then purposely sent Zaeed to help Dr. Chawkwas, assuming he would die.  He did.  I was glad.  What I was not happy about, however, was the fact that Mordin died for no reason.  I had his loyalty, as well as everyone else's on the crew, but somehow he died during the firefight at the end.  Couldn't they have picked Jacob, or Legion, or some other character that wasn't as unbelievably awesome as Mordin?  They should just rebuild him in Mass Effect 3.

That's interesting about Mordin.  Since who you pick has an outcome on the ending, I'm going to SPOILERS this:

At first, I picked Thane to go through the vents, figuring he was going to die soon, anyhow, and not thinking that if I sent a tech person, they might make it through unscathed.  I sent Miranda on both leadership missions, and I sent Mordin to bring the rest of the crew back to the Normandy.  For the final mission, I brought Miranda and Garrus with me.  Thane died, and everyone else survived.  I had a save right before the ending, so I tried it again with everything the same, but this time I sent Tali'Zorah through the vents, and everyone lived.

I sent Tali through the vents, let Garrus lead each fire team, had Samara use the biotic field, and sent Zaeed to die escorting the people back (I really hate that guy and wanted him dead).  I think the problem is that I let Mordin lead the final team, and brought Garrus and Miranda with me.  I'm thinking about loading up my last save (which wasn't until right before I jumped through the Omega-4 Relay) and doing everything the same, except I'll send Garrus to lead the last team and bring Mordin with.  The key, other than having loyalty from everybody, seems to be sending a good tech user for the vents, biotic user for the shield, a good leader for the fire teams (so Miranda or Garrus), and then someone a little more powerful for the escort mission (Grunt would probably work).  I was reading about some of the alternate endings, how players can die, etc. and you can definitely have pretty much your entire crew, as well as Shepard, all die by the end of the mission.  It's pretty awesome, but I definitely don't want to go into Mass Effect 3 with Mordin being a corpse.  He's an awesome character.

Yeah, Zaeed sucks.  I forgot about the biotic one.  I used Samara, and she obviously made it through.  I must have gotten lucky picking Mordin for the escort mission.  I actually sent him because I didn't think he WAS that strong, so I figured I wouldn't need him as much for the rest of the game.  I wonder what happens when you leave the rest of your crew to die.

I'm guessing pretty much everyone survives the escort mission if they're loyal.  I was a dick to Zaeed during his loyalty mission, so he didn't want to be my friend.  He paid the price.

I wouldn't be surprised if you could end the game with basically nobody left alive.  I know both your teammates can die after the final boss fight, someone can die in the vent, during the biotic part, in the escort mission, in the fire team, when you pass through the relay...pretty much at any point.  And it's possible to have Shepard die during that final jump onto the shuttle.  He tells Joker to let go, falls to his death, and then Joker is the one talking to the Illusive Man at the end.  Of course, I'm sure they'd somehow "rebuild" Shepard again in Mass Effect 3 if you get that ending. 


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