Single Greatest Thread Ever

[SKO]

MB Financial Bank.

Heh.

How do you know they don't have a Single Greatest Thread Ever and you're on it?

My employers:

American National Bank - Dead
First Colonial Bank - Dead
Sumitomo Bank - Dead
LaSalle National Bank - Dead
KPMG Consulting / Bearing Point - Dead
National City Bank - Dead
AMCORE Bank - Dead
American Chartered Bank - Dead
MB Financial - Dead

I *AM* the bearer of the Single Greatest Thread ever.

I think you're the killer of financial institutions.

Chuck is clearly America's working class hero.

[Saul Goodman]

MB Financial Bank.

Heh.

How do you know they don't have a Single Greatest Thread Ever and you're on it?

My employers:

American National Bank - Dead
First Colonial Bank - Dead
Sumitomo Bank - Dead
LaSalle National Bank - Dead
KPMG Consulting / Bearing Point - Dead
National City Bank - Dead
AMCORE Bank - Dead
American Chartered Bank - Dead
MB Financial - Dead

I *AM* the bearer of the Single Greatest Thread ever.

I think you're the killer of financial institutions.

Yeah, I'm sensing a trend here. Chuck is Dr. Death, but for banks.

[Brownie]

Chuck should work  for Tyler Chatwood.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

Chuck should work  for Tyler Chatwood.

Seems lik a reasonable respons to 1 shitty outing from our #5 starter.

[Tonker]

Chuck should work  for Tyler Chatwood.

Seems lik a reasonable respons to 1 shitty outing from our #5 starter.

I mean, yes, it's an overreaction... but it's also been more than one shitty outing.  The dude has walked 34 guys in 43 IP.

[SKO]

Chuck should work  for Tyler Chatwood.

Seems lik a reasonable respons to 1 shitty outing from our #5 starter.

I mean, yes, it's an overreaction... but it's also been more than one shitty outing.  The dude has walked 34 guys in 43 IP.

Unless you believe ERA is the be-all end-all he's been very bad for most of the year. A 4.64 FIP is bad, a 1.620 WHIP is bad, they're 3-6 in games he's pitched in because even if he personally doesn't allow that many runs he hasn't gone deeper than 5 1/3rd in any of his starts in the last month and that puts tremendous strain on the bullpen.

As far as fifth starters go he's definitely capable of being a very good one if his walk rate regresses back to his career average (which is still bad, but workable with his stuff), but if he keeps the walk rate where it's been this year he's probably going to have more games like last night because it's hard to write off his 3% HR/FB rate entering last night as anything more than good luck and he's going to keep giving up more 3 run bombs if he walks two guys every inning.

[SKO]

Chuck should work  for Tyler Chatwood.

Seems lik a reasonable respons to 1 shitty outing from our #5 starter.

I mean, yes, it's an overreaction... but it's also been more than one shitty outing.  The dude has walked 34 guys in 43 IP.

sorry I mean YOU ENTITLED FUCK. YOU UNGRATEFUL SWINE. CAN YOU FUCKERS NOT ENJOY ANYTHING? YOU LIVED THROUGH RUBEN QUEVEDO AND YOU WANT TO COMPLAIN BECAUSE TYLER CHATWOOD HANDS OUT SOME FREE PASSES ON THE WAY TO BEING THE FIFTH STARTER THAT ANDREW LORRAINE ONLY DREAMED OF? THE YEARS WE SUFFERED AND YOU GODDAMN BABIES CAN'T DEAL WITH A FEW UGLY OUTINGS FROM A GUY THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN JIM LEFEBVRE'S ACE?

[Tonker]

Chuck should work  for Tyler Chatwood.

Seems lik a reasonable respons to 1 shitty outing from our #5 starter.

I mean, yes, it's an overreaction... but it's also been more than one shitty outing.  The dude has walked 34 guys in 43 IP.

sorry I mean YOU ENTITLED FUCK. YOU UNGRATEFUL SWINE. CAN YOU FUCKERS NOT ENJOY ANYTHING? YOU LIVED THROUGH RUBEN QUEVEDO AND YOU WANT TO COMPLAIN BECAUSE TYLER CHATWOOD HANDS OUT SOME FREE PASSES ON THE WAY TO BEING THE FIFTH STARTER THAT ANDREW LORRAINE ONLY DREAMED OF? THE YEARS WE SUFFERED AND YOU GODDAMN BABIES CAN'T DEAL WITH A FEW UGLY OUTINGS FROM A GUY THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN JIM LEFEBVRE'S ACE?

Ha.  Well played.

[Oleg]

Chuck should work  for Tyler Chatwood.

Seems lik a reasonable respons to 1 shitty outing from our #5 starter.

I mean, yes, it's an overreaction... but it's also been more than one shitty outing.  The dude has walked 34 guys in 43 IP.

Unless you believe ERA is the be-all end-all he's been very bad for most of the year. A 4.64 FIP is bad, a 1.620 WHIP is bad, they're 3-6 in games he's pitched in because even if he personally doesn't allow that many runs he hasn't gone deeper than 5 1/3rd in any of his starts in the last month and that puts tremendous strain on the bullpen.

As far as fifth starters go he's definitely capable of being a very good one if his walk rate regresses back to his career average (which is still bad, but workable with his stuff), but if he keeps the walk rate where it's been this year he's probably going to have more games like last night because it's hard to write off his 3% HR/FB rate entering last night as anything more than good luck and he's going to keep giving up more 3 run bombs if he walks two guys every inning.

I don't want to make it a habit of agreeing with SKO about such things and I think the idea that he's 'only' averaged 5.3 IP per start is, well, not bad for a 5th starter (the issue is that Darvish and Q are averaging  5 and ~5.3 per, respectively) but I'm going to agree with SKO here.

Fangraphs also agrees.

[SKO]

Chuck should work  for Tyler Chatwood.

Seems lik a reasonable respons to 1 shitty outing from our #5 starter.

I mean, yes, it's an overreaction... but it's also been more than one shitty outing.  The dude has walked 34 guys in 43 IP.

Unless you believe ERA is the be-all end-all he's been very bad for most of the year. A 4.64 FIP is bad, a 1.620 WHIP is bad, they're 3-6 in games he's pitched in because even if he personally doesn't allow that many runs he hasn't gone deeper than 5 1/3rd in any of his starts in the last month and that puts tremendous strain on the bullpen.

As far as fifth starters go he's definitely capable of being a very good one if his walk rate regresses back to his career average (which is still bad, but workable with his stuff), but if he keeps the walk rate where it's been this year he's probably going to have more games like last night because it's hard to write off his 3% HR/FB rate entering last night as anything more than good luck and he's going to keep giving up more 3 run bombs if he walks two guys every inning.

I don't want to make it a habit of agreeing with SKO about such things and I think the idea that he's 'only' averaged 5.3 IP per start is, well, not bad for a 5th starter (the issue is that Darvish and Q are averaging  5 and ~5.3 per, respectively) but I'm going to agree with SKO here.

Fangraphs also agrees.

Honestly Tyler Chatwood is low on my list of complaints about the 2018 Cubs. He could definitely rise if his walk rate doesn't go back down to where it usually is for his career but assuming he simply can't keep walking 8 guys per 9 he should go back to being a perfectly acceptable 5. If that walk rate doesn't positively regress than whooo boy. That said even when he's "on" his starts are undoubtedly aggravating as hell because it's just not fun to watch a dude walk that many guys. As long as Quintana/Darvish look like the guys they were in their last starts and the rest of the rotation end up being who they were supposed to be most of my actual long term concerns about this team will have vanished and everything should end up fine. I like this team a lot over the course of a full season if they're going to get close to normal seasons from Quintana and Darvish. If those two were actually broken this rotation becomes ordinary and the team becomes vulnerable.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

Chuck should work  for Tyler Chatwood.

Seems lik a reasonable respons to 1 shitty outing from our #5 starter.

I mean, yes, it's an overreaction... but it's also been more than one shitty outing.  The dude has walked 34 guys in 43 IP.

Unless you believe ERA is the be-all end-all he's been very bad for most of the year. A 4.64 FIP is bad, a 1.620 WHIP is bad, they're 3-6 in games he's pitched in because even if he personally doesn't allow that many runs he hasn't gone deeper than 5 1/3rd in any of his starts in the last month and that puts tremendous strain on the bullpen.

As far as fifth starters go he's definitely capable of being a very good one if his walk rate regresses back to his career average (which is still bad, but workable with his stuff), but if he keeps the walk rate where it's been this year he's probably going to have more games like last night because it's hard to write off his 3% HR/FB rate entering last night as anything more than good luck and he's going to keep giving up more 3 run bombs if he walks two guys every inning.

I don't want to make it a habit of agreeing with SKO about such things and I think the idea that he's 'only' averaged 5.3 IP per start is, well, not bad for a 5th starter (the issue is that Darvish and Q are averaging  5 and ~5.3 per, respectively) but I'm going to agree with SKO here.

Fangraphs also agrees.

Honestly Tyler Chatwood is low on my list of complaints about the 2018 Cubs. He could definitely rise if his walk rate doesn't go back down to where it usually is for his career but assuming he simply can't keep walking 8 guys per 9 he should go back to being a perfectly acceptable 5. If that walk rate doesn't positively regress than whooo boy. That said even when he's "on" his starts are undoubtedly aggravating as hell because it's just not fun to watch a dude walk that many guys. As long as Quintana/Darvish look like the guys they were in their last starts and the rest of the rotation end up being who they were supposed to be most of my actual long term concerns about this team will have vanished and everything should end up fine. I like this team a lot over the course of a full season if they're going to get close to normal seasons from Quintana and Darvish. If those two were actually broken this rotation becomes ordinary and the team becomes vulnerable.

Thanks to both of you for your statfaggotry.

My only contribution was I heard that Chatwood was the first pitcher since Zambrano with 6 straight starts, going 5 innings, and allowing fewer than four hits or some shit like that.  Could be some weird, fluky statistic (evidenced by the additional fact that Z was the first-ever Cub to do this or something)   

Effectively wild, and probably not due to last, and it certainly came crashing down on him last night, and if it keeps up I'll be having Eddie Butler v.2017 malaise flashbacks.  But fuckall, he's the 5th starter, you fucks.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

Chuck should work  for Tyler Chatwood.

Seems lik a reasonable respons to 1 shitty outing from our #5 starter.

I mean, yes, it's an overreaction... but it's also been more than one shitty outing.  The dude has walked 34 guys in 43 IP.

sorry I mean YOU ENTITLED FUCK. YOU UNGRATEFUL SWINE. CAN YOU FUCKERS NOT ENJOY ANYTHING? YOU LIVED THROUGH RUBEN QUEVEDO AND YOU WANT TO COMPLAIN BECAUSE TYLER CHATWOOD HANDS OUT SOME FREE PASSES ON THE WAY TO BEING THE FIFTH STARTER THAT ANDREW LORRAINE ONLY DREAMED OF? THE YEARS WE SUFFERED AND YOU GODDAMN BABIES CAN'T DEAL WITH A FEW UGLY OUTINGS FROM A GUY THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN JIM LEFEBVRE'S ACE?

And DPD but SKO IS RIGHT!

[Brownie]

Chuck should work  for Tyler Chatwood.

Seems lik a reasonable respons to 1 shitty outing from our #5 starter.

I mean, yes, it's an overreaction... but it's also been more than one shitty outing.  The dude has walked 34 guys in 43 IP.

That and it was an attempt at a joke at both Tyler Chatwood's and Chuck Gitles' expense. (And who can't behind that?)

[Saul Goodman]

Chuck should work  for Tyler Chatwood.

Seems lik a reasonable respons to 1 shitty outing from our #5 starter.

I mean, yes, it's an overreaction... but it's also been more than one shitty outing.  The dude has walked 34 guys in 43 IP.

That and it was an attempt at a joke at both Tyler Chatwood's and Chuck Gitles' expense. (And who can't behind that?)

The whole behind?

[Brownie]

Chuck should work  for Tyler Chatwood.

Seems lik a reasonable respons to 1 shitty outing from our #5 starter.

I mean, yes, it's an overreaction... but it's also been more than one shitty outing.  The dude has walked 34 guys in 43 IP.

sorry I mean YOU ENTITLED FUCK. YOU UNGRATEFUL SWINE. CAN YOU FUCKERS NOT ENJOY ANYTHING? YOU LIVED THROUGH RUBEN QUEVEDO AND YOU WANT TO COMPLAIN BECAUSE TYLER CHATWOOD HANDS OUT SOME FREE PASSES ON THE WAY TO BEING THE FIFTH STARTER THAT ANDREW LORRAINE ONLY DREAMED OF? THE YEARS WE SUFFERED AND YOU GODDAMN BABIES CAN'T DEAL WITH A FEW UGLY OUTINGS FROM A GUY THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN JIM LEFEBVRE'S ACE?

And DPD but SKO IS RIGHT!

No, it's doubtful Chatwood would be the No. 1 starter in front of Greg Maddux or Mike Morgan.