Life On Mars

[Andre Dawson's Creek]

I suspect Harvey Keitel was a bad choice as Gene Hunt.  For one thing, I couldn't understand a goddamn word he was saying.  For another thing, Sam Tyler could kick his ass.  Part of the awesomeness of the Guv was that he was physically intimidating, and would have smacked the shit out of Sam.

Also, they made Ray's character too likable.

I hope this ends up being good, though.

Keitel sucks as the Guv.  He's like a sad parody of the British Gene Hunt.

I think in the first and only 20 minutes I watched, this is what killed it for me. These "characters" offer little appeal. Maybe the 70's in England were just way better. I always thought they would have been awesome in the US. I guess I was wrong.

Dazed and Confused IS A LIAR.

I think that the '70s were awesome.  Although generally we produced crap (Peter Max was the iconic artist of the times) there was a lot of innovation.  Music.  Polyester.  Sideburns.  Nixon.  Impeachment.  Vietnam protests.  Weed.  Experimentation.  Peace and Freedom.  Huey Newton.  Eldridge Cleaver.  I got through it.

My faith has been restored. Thanks Stew.

You had faith in bell bottoms and wide lapels?

I have faith. Have.

Well, you gotta have faith.

[Kerm]

It's an American problem.  We don't like unattractive leads in our dramas (especially our action dramas).  The lead needs to be an attractive, well built, person.  Unless you're doing comedy where the lead is wacky or the perennial underdog, most of America won't buy in, the show gets critical acclaim and low ratings, and gets canceled after 9 eps.

Who could you picture bullying around the US version of Sam?



On the plus side, I think they found their lead in the new Captian America movie.

Harvey Keitel is attractive now?

I was honestly going to suggest the dude from Con Air and Cliffhanger (Colm Meaney) because he looks like the Guv, and in searching for his name I found this.  Apparently, the unaired pilot HAD Colm Meaney as Hunt.  I wonder if I read that somewhere.  It also had the hot girl from BSG: Razor as Maya instead of Lisa Bonet.

Damn.

Harv ain't the lead.  I was speaking more towards the problem of casting a non-attractive male lead so Harvey could play the badass. 

The Guv is ALWAYS the lead, damnit!

[Andre Dawson's Creek]

It's an American problem.  We don't like unattractive leads in our dramas (especially our action dramas).  The lead needs to be an attractive, well built, person.  Unless you're doing comedy where the lead is wacky or the perennial underdog, most of America won't buy in, the show gets critical acclaim and low ratings, and gets canceled after 9 eps.

Who could you picture bullying around the US version of Sam?



On the plus side, I think they found their lead in the new Captian America movie.

Harvey Keitel is attractive now?

I was honestly going to suggest the dude from Con Air and Cliffhanger (Colm Meaney) because he looks like the Guv, and in searching for his name I found this.  Apparently, the unaired pilot HAD Colm Meaney as Hunt.  I wonder if I read that somewhere.  It also had the hot girl from BSG: Razor as Maya instead of Lisa Bonet.

Damn.

Harv ain't the lead.  I was speaking more towards the problem of casting a non-attractive male lead so Harvey could play the badass. 

The Guv is ALWAYS the lead, damnit!

Not any more.  We've taken the BBC version and turned it into a Meximelt.

[TDubbs]

It's an American problem.  We don't like unattractive leads in our dramas (especially our action dramas).  The lead needs to be an attractive, well built, person.  Unless you're doing comedy where the lead is wacky or the perennial underdog, most of America won't buy in, the show gets critical acclaim and low ratings, and gets canceled after 9 eps.

Who could you picture bullying around the US version of Sam?



On the plus side, I think they found their lead in the new Captian America movie.

Harvey Keitel is attractive now?

I was honestly going to suggest the dude from Con Air and Cliffhanger (Colm Meaney) because he looks like the Guv, and in searching for his name I found this.  Apparently, the unaired pilot HAD Colm Meaney as Hunt.  I wonder if I read that somewhere.  It also had the hot girl from BSG: Razor as Maya instead of Lisa Bonet.

Damn.

Harv ain't the lead.  I was speaking more towards the problem of casting a non-attractive male lead so Harvey could play the badass. 

The Guv is ALWAYS the lead, damnit!

Not any more.  We've taken the BBC version and turned it into a Meximelt.

The football food?

[5laky]

Yeah, I'm not watching this anymore.

[cubbiebluestew]

I suspect Harvey Keitel was a bad choice as Gene Hunt.  For one thing, I couldn't understand a goddamn word he was saying.  For another thing, Sam Tyler could kick his ass.  Part of the awesomeness of the Guv was that he was physically intimidating, and would have smacked the shit out of Sam.

Also, they made Ray's character too likable.

I hope this ends up being good, though.

Keitel sucks as the Guv.  He's like a sad parody of the British Gene Hunt.

I think in the first and only 20 minutes I watched, this is what killed it for me. These "characters" offer little appeal. Maybe the 70's in England were just way better. I always thought they would have been awesome in the US. I guess I was wrong.

Dazed and Confused IS A LIAR.

I think that the '70s were awesome.  Although generally we produced crap (Peter Max was the iconic artist of the times) there was a lot of innovation.  Music.  Polyester.  Sideburns.  Nixon.  Impeachment.  Vietnam protests.  Weed.  Experimentation.  Peace and Freedom.  Huey Newton.  Eldridge Cleaver.  I got through it.

My faith has been restored. Thanks Stew.

You had faith in bell bottoms and wide lapels?

I have faith. Have.

Well, you gotta have faith.

No.  You gotta have hope.  Mustn't sit around and mope.  All you really need is hope.

[Quality Start Machine]

I suspect Harvey Keitel was a bad choice as Gene Hunt.  For one thing, I couldn't understand a goddamn word he was saying.  For another thing, Sam Tyler could kick his ass.  Part of the awesomeness of the Guv was that he was physically intimidating, and would have smacked the shit out of Sam.

Also, they made Ray's character too likable.

I hope this ends up being good, though.

Keitel sucks as the Guv.  He's like a sad parody of the British Gene Hunt.

I think in the first and only 20 minutes I watched, this is what killed it for me. These "characters" offer little appeal. Maybe the 70's in England were just way better. I always thought they would have been awesome in the US. I guess I was wrong.

Dazed and Confused IS A LIAR.

I think that the '70s were awesome.  Although generally we produced crap (Peter Max was the iconic artist of the times) there was a lot of innovation.  Music.  Polyester.  Sideburns.  Nixon.  Impeachment.  Vietnam protests.  Weed.  Experimentation.  Peace and Freedom.  Huey Newton.  Eldridge Cleaver.  I got through it.

My faith has been restored. Thanks Stew.

You had faith in bell bottoms and wide lapels?

I have faith. Have.

Well, you gotta have faith.

No.  You gotta have hope.  Mustn't sit around and mope.  All you really need is hope.

No, you gotta have faith, faith, faith.

[Andre Dawson's Creek]

I suspect Harvey Keitel was a bad choice as Gene Hunt.  For one thing, I couldn't understand a goddamn word he was saying.  For another thing, Sam Tyler could kick his ass.  Part of the awesomeness of the Guv was that he was physically intimidating, and would have smacked the shit out of Sam.

Also, they made Ray's character too likable.

I hope this ends up being good, though.

Keitel sucks as the Guv.  He's like a sad parody of the British Gene Hunt.

I think in the first and only 20 minutes I watched, this is what killed it for me. These "characters" offer little appeal. Maybe the 70's in England were just way better. I always thought they would have been awesome in the US. I guess I was wrong.

Dazed and Confused IS A LIAR.

I think that the '70s were awesome.  Although generally we produced crap (Peter Max was the iconic artist of the times) there was a lot of innovation.  Music.  Polyester.  Sideburns.  Nixon.  Impeachment.  Vietnam protests.  Weed.  Experimentation.  Peace and Freedom.  Huey Newton.  Eldridge Cleaver.  I got through it.

My faith has been restored. Thanks Stew.

You had faith in bell bottoms and wide lapels?

I have faith. Have.

Well, you gotta have faith.

No.  You gotta have hope.  Mustn't sit around and mope.  All you really need is hope.

No, you gotta have faith, faith, faith.

!!!!

[Andy]

This was a show that didn't need an American remake and got a bad one.  Harvey Keitel is too fucking old to be the Gov.  He's in shape, obviously but he looks like he's 70 (probably because he'll be 70 in May).  I'm still watching, but it needs to get better in a hurry.

Colm Meaney would have been a lot better.  A lot.

And I agree, Ray Carling only works if he's an asshole.  Michael Imperioli only acts that way half the time.

And Gretchen Mol's not getting it done as Annie.  I miss Liz White.

[Kerm]

This was a show that didn't need an American remake and got a bad one.  Harvey Keitel is too fucking old to be the Gov.  He's in shape, obviously but he looks like he's 70 (probably because he'll be 70 in May).  I'm still watching, but it needs to get better in a hurry.

Colm Meaney would have been a lot better.  A lot.

And I agree, Ray Carling only works if he's an asshole.  Michael Imperioli only acts that way half the time.

And Gretchen Mol's not getting it done as Annie.  I miss Liz White.

I've found the most enjoyable parts of the show so far to be the scenes with his hot hippie neighbor.  That's not a good thing.

[Kerm]

Incidentally, Heather Matarazzo, who played June on last week's episode (pretty sissy move that she didn't die, by the way) is one of the ugliest women I've ever seen.  I almost had to turn off my TV when she was making her "I'm crying" face.







Yikes.

[Andre Dawson's Creek]

Incidentally, Heather Matarazzo, who played June on last week's episode (pretty sissy move that she didn't die, by the way) is one of the ugliest women I've ever seen.  I almost had to turn off my TV when she was making her "I'm crying" face.







Yikes.

See... there is a chance you and Andy can spin this podcast gig into a TV show.


PS.  I love that one of the link addresses is "dontlinkthis" and you completely disregarded it.

[Kerm]

See... there is a chance you and Andy can spin this podcast gig into a TV show.


PS.  I love that one of the link addresses is "dontlinkthis" and you completely disregarded it.

What are those geeks going to do about it?

[Wheezer]

Yeah, I'm not watching this anymore.

You'll need to not do that on Wednesdays starting November 5--NBC has apparently arrived at the conclusion that maybe "Knight Rider" would be a better lead-in.  Having never seen any of these programs ("Law & Order" completing the triptych), I'm not sure whether the moniker "Crime Night" is meant to be droll.

[JD]

Yeah, I'm not watching this anymore.

That makes 2 of us.