Peter King's MMQB

[Slaky]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/08/06/nfl.nflpa.benefits/index.html?eref=sircrc

Pete King says NFL football in 2011 is not looking real good.

If I were a football fan, I'd be worried about the NFL season in 2011.

Should you care? Not yet.

I wanted to get the Peter King Hateslide lubed up.

Mission accomplished.

[Internet Apex]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/08/06/nfl.nflpa.benefits/index.html?eref=sircrc

Pete King says NFL football in 2011 is not looking real good.

If I were a football fan, I'd be worried about the NFL season in 2011.

Should you care? Not yet.

I wanted to get the Peter King Hateslide lubed up.

Mission accomplished.

Meh. Niether P. King nor I are football fans, so we don't care. Yet.

[PenFoe]

Yeah, that McDaniel is a fucking genius.  I'm sure the latest fucknut to fall out of the Belicheck Tree isn't going to be a collosal failure like, well, all the rest of those guys.

I hadn't seen this before until someone bumped this thread today, but it's a really valid and under publicized point. 
Too many people confuse the Parcells Coaching Tree (rather successful) with the Belichick Coaching Tree (completely unsuccessful to date).

Not saying that McDaniels is a bad Coach or Jay Cutler isn't missing out on a good system for him, but the assumption that all things Belichick are successful is a complete fallacy.

Just to put specific names to it...guys with NFL Head Coaching experience who previously worked under Belichick:
    * Romeo Crennel, Cleveland Browns (2005–2008) Record: 24-40
    * Al Groh, New York Jets (2000) Record: 9-7
    * Josh McDaniels, Denver Broncos (2009–present) No record
    * Eric Mangini, New York Jets (2006–2008), Cleveland Browns (2009–present) Record: 23-25
    * Nick Saban, Miami Dolphins (2005–2006) Record: 15-17
    * Jim Schwartz, Detroit Lions (2009–present) No Record.

Granted, these guys all took over pretty bad franchises and Crennel's record really kills the group, but that's a total career record of 71-89.

[CBStew]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/08/06/nfl.nflpa.benefits/index.html?eref=sircrc

Pete King says NFL football in 2011 is not looking real good.

"And over the phone from his Washington office, Smith told me he was concerned by "a lack of progress on a new CBA'' after two meetings between owners and players"

The current contract expires two years from now and they still haven't negotiated a successor?   Wow.  That is unprecedented in the Labor movement.

[SKO]

Yeah, that McDaniel is a fucking genius.  I'm sure the latest fucknut to fall out of the Belicheck Tree isn't going to be a collosal failure like, well, all the rest of those guys.

I hadn't seen this before until someone bumped this thread today, but it's a really valid and under publicized point.  
Too many people confuse the Parcells Coaching Tree (rather successful) with the Belichick Coaching Tree (completely unsuccessful to date).

Not saying that McDaniels is a bad Coach or Jay Cutler isn't missing out on a good system for him, but the assumption that all things Belichick are successful is a complete fallacy.

Just to put specific names to it...guys with NFL Head Coaching experience who previously worked under Belichick:
   * Romeo Crennel, Cleveland Browns (2005–2008) Record: 24-40
   * Al Groh, New York Jets (2000) Record: 9-7
   * Josh McDaniels, Denver Broncos (2009–present) No record
   * Eric Mangini, New York Jets (2006–2008), Cleveland Browns (2009–present) Record: 23-25
   * Nick Saban, Miami Dolphins (2005–2006) Record: 15-17
   * Jim Schwartz, Detroit Lions (2009–present) No Record.

Granted, these guys all took over pretty bad franchises and Crennel's record really kills the group, but that's a total career record of 71-89.

McDaniel's may end up being a good coach, but first off, I love how people forget that what Started the Cutler problem was McDaniel's WANTING to trade Jay. Jay's really not all that great for the horizontal offense McDaniel's likes to run, and McDaniel's wanted someone who plays a safer style of football in Matt Cassel. Also, the problem with both Mangini and McDaniel's is that they both get a lot of credit for being prodigies, but they both were simply coordinators who took over highly successful units and managed not to fuck them up. Crennel was the defensive coordinator, so he got the Browns job. Mangini took over the d-coordinator job and simply kept the thing running at the pace it had already been running at. McDaniel's took over for Weis and did the same thing. Neither one of them developed the system or even the players In it.

[Gil Gunderson]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/08/06/nfl.nflpa.benefits/index.html?eref=sircrc

Pete King says NFL football in 2011 is not looking real good.

"And over the phone from his Washington office, Smith told me he was concerned by "a lack of progress on a new CBA'' after two meetings between owners and players"

The current contract expires two years from now and they still haven't negotiated a successor?   Wow.  That is unprecedented in the Labor movement.

Unprecedented, I tell you.

[CT III]

Yeah, that McDaniel is a fucking genius.  I'm sure the latest fucknut to fall out of the Belicheck Tree isn't going to be a collosal failure like, well, all the rest of those guys.

I hadn't seen this before until someone bumped this thread today, but it's a really valid and under publicized point. 
Too many people confuse the Parcells Coaching Tree (rather successful) with the Belichick Coaching Tree (completely unsuccessful to date).

Not saying that McDaniels is a bad Coach or Jay Cutler isn't missing out on a good system for him, but the assumption that all things Belichick are successful is a complete fallacy.

Just to put specific names to it...guys with NFL Head Coaching experience who previously worked under Belichick:
    * Romeo Crennel, Cleveland Browns (2005–2008) Record: 24-40
    * Al Groh, New York Jets (2000) Record: 9-7
    * Josh McDaniels, Denver Broncos (2009–present) No record
    * Eric Mangini, New York Jets (2006–2008), Cleveland Browns (2009–present) Record: 23-25
    * Nick Saban, Miami Dolphins (2005–2006) Record: 15-17
    * Jim Schwartz, Detroit Lions (2009–present) No Record.

Granted, these guys all took over pretty bad franchises and Crennel's record really kills the group, but that's a total career record of 71-89.

McDaniel's may end up being a good coach, but first off, I love how people forget that what Started the Cutler problem was McDaniel's WANTING to trade Jay. Jay's really not all that great for the horizontal defense McDaniel's likes to run, and McDaniel's wanted someone who plays a safer style of football in Matt Cassel. Also, the problem with both Mangini and McDaniel's is that they both get a lot of credit for being prodigies, but they both were simply coordinators who took over highly successful units and managed not to fuck them up. Crennel was the defensive coordinator, so he got the Browns job. Mangini took over the d-coordinator job and simply kept the thing running at the pace it had already been running at. McDaniel's took over for Weis and did the same thing. Neither one of them developed the system or even the players In it.

McDaniel's?

[air2300]

Yeah, that McDaniel is a fucking genius.  I'm sure the latest fucknut to fall out of the Belicheck Tree isn't going to be a collosal failure like, well, all the rest of those guys.

I hadn't seen this before until someone bumped this thread today, but it's a really valid and under publicized point. 
Too many people confuse the Parcells Coaching Tree (rather successful) with the Belichick Coaching Tree (completely unsuccessful to date).

Not saying that McDaniels is a bad Coach or Jay Cutler isn't missing out on a good system for him, but the assumption that all things Belichick are successful is a complete fallacy.

Just to put specific names to it...guys with NFL Head Coaching experience who previously worked under Belichick:
    * Romeo Crennel, Cleveland Browns (2005–2008) Record: 24-40
    * Al Groh, New York Jets (2000) Record: 9-7
    * Josh McDaniels, Denver Broncos (2009–present) No record
    * Eric Mangini, New York Jets (2006–2008), Cleveland Browns (2009–present) Record: 23-25
    * Nick Saban, Miami Dolphins (2005–2006) Record: 15-17
    * Jim Schwartz, Detroit Lions (2009–present) No Record.

Granted, these guys all took over pretty bad franchises and Crennel's record really kills the group, but that's a total career record of 71-89.

McDaniel's may end up being a good coach, but first off, I love how people forget that what Started the Cutler problem was McDaniel's WANTING to trade Jay. Jay's really not all that great for the horizontal defense McDaniel's likes to run, and McDaniel's wanted someone who plays a safer style of football in Matt Cassel. Also, the problem with both Mangini and McDaniel's is that they both get a lot of credit for being prodigies, but they both were simply coordinators who took over highly successful units and managed not to fuck them up. Crennel was the defensive coordinator, so he got the Browns job. Mangini took over the d-coordinator job and simply kept the thing running at the pace it had already been running at. McDaniel's took over for Weis and did the same thing. Neither one of them developed the system or even the players In it.

I don't get the whole obsession with McDaniels.  Is this the bears fans' way of trying to justify the trade?  The bears got one of the best Qb in the league, so why bother getting our panties in a bunch over what the media says or anybody else? 

[SKO]

Yeah, that McDaniel is a fucking genius.  I'm sure the latest fucknut to fall out of the Belicheck Tree isn't going to be a collosal failure like, well, all the rest of those guys.

I hadn't seen this before until someone bumped this thread today, but it's a really valid and under publicized point. 
Too many people confuse the Parcells Coaching Tree (rather successful) with the Belichick Coaching Tree (completely unsuccessful to date).

Not saying that McDaniels is a bad Coach or Jay Cutler isn't missing out on a good system for him, but the assumption that all things Belichick are successful is a complete fallacy.

Just to put specific names to it...guys with NFL Head Coaching experience who previously worked under Belichick:
    * Romeo Crennel, Cleveland Browns (2005–2008) Record: 24-40
    * Al Groh, New York Jets (2000) Record: 9-7
    * Josh McDaniels, Denver Broncos (2009–present) No record
    * Eric Mangini, New York Jets (2006–2008), Cleveland Browns (2009–present) Record: 23-25
    * Nick Saban, Miami Dolphins (2005–2006) Record: 15-17
    * Jim Schwartz, Detroit Lions (2009–present) No Record.

Granted, these guys all took over pretty bad franchises and Crennel's record really kills the group, but that's a total career record of 71-89.

McDaniel's may end up being a good coach, but first off, I love how people forget that what Started the Cutler problem was McDaniel's WANTING to trade Jay. Jay's really not all that great for the horizontal defense McDaniel's likes to run, and McDaniel's wanted someone who plays a safer style of football in Matt Cassel. Also, the problem with both Mangini and McDaniel's is that they both get a lot of credit for being prodigies, but they both were simply coordinators who took over highly successful units and managed not to fuck them up. Crennel was the defensive coordinator, so he got the Browns job. Mangini took over the d-coordinator job and simply kept the thing running at the pace it had already been running at. McDaniel's took over for Weis and did the same thing. Neither one of them developed the system or even the players In it.

I don't get the whole obsession with McDaniels.  Is this the bears fans' way of trying to justify the trade?  The bears got one of the best Qb in the league, so why bother getting our panties in a bunch over what the media says or anybody else? 

I'm not particularly obsessed with him or the Broncos. As a fan of Kyle Orton, I'd like him And them to do well this year. I was more replying to this:

Jay Cutler has three people to blame for his trade from the most talented young offensive team in football to one of the least:

1. Jay Cutler.

2. Jay Cutler.

3. Jay Cutler.

The saddest thing here? Cutler could have been a truly great player in McDaniels' offense.

Whatever he says now, I know he'll always wonder how great he could have been in that offense, with that bright young coach -- whether he liked McDaniels or not.

[Andy]

McDaniel's may end up being a good coach, but first off, I love how people forget that what Started the Cutler problem was McDaniel's WANTING to trade Jay. Jay's really not all that great for the horizontal defense McDaniel's likes to run, and McDaniel's wanted someone who plays a safer style of football in Matt Cassel. Also, the problem with both Mangini and McDaniel's is that they both get a lot of credit for being prodigies, but they both were simply coordinators who took over highly successful units and managed not to fuck them up. Crennel was the defensive coordinator, so he got the Browns job. Mangini took over the d-coordinator job and simply kept the thing running at the pace it had already been running at. McDaniel's took over for Weis and did the same thing. Neither one of them developed the system or even the players In it.

You know what his problem is?  He's so possessive!

Get it?  High five!

[SKO]

Sure. You add 7 or 8 apostrophes where they don't belong and suddenly everyone is a grammar teacher.

[Quality Start Machine]

Yeah, that McDaniel is a fucking genius.  I'm sure the latest fucknut to fall out of the Belicheck Tree isn't going to be a collosal failure like, well, all the rest of those guys.

I hadn't seen this before until someone bumped this thread today, but it's a really valid and under publicized point. 
Too many people confuse the Parcells Coaching Tree (rather successful) with the Belichick Coaching Tree (completely unsuccessful to date).

Not saying that McDaniels is a bad Coach or Jay Cutler isn't missing out on a good system for him, but the assumption that all things Belichick are successful is a complete fallacy.

Just to put specific names to it...guys with NFL Head Coaching experience who previously worked under Belichick:
    * Romeo Crennel, Cleveland Browns (2005–2008) Record: 24-40
    * Al Groh, New York Jets (2000) Record: 9-7
    * Josh McDaniels, Denver Broncos (2009–present) No record
    * Eric Mangini, New York Jets (2006–2008), Cleveland Browns (2009–present) Record: 23-25
    * Nick Saban, Miami Dolphins (2005–2006) Record: 15-17
    * Jim Schwartz, Detroit Lions (2009–present) No Record.

Granted, these guys all took over pretty bad franchises and Crennel's record really kills the group, but that's a total career record of 71-89.

McDaniel's may end up being a good coach, but first off, I love how people forget that what Started the Cutler problem was McDaniel's WANTING to trade Jay. Jay's really not all that great for the horizontal defense McDaniel's likes to run, and McDaniel's wanted someone who plays a safer style of football in Matt Cassel. Also, the problem with both Mangini and McDaniel's is that they both get a lot of credit for being prodigies, but they both were simply coordinators who took over highly successful units and managed not to fuck them up. Crennel was the defensive coordinator, so he got the Browns job. Mangini took over the d-coordinator job and simply kept the thing running at the pace it had already been running at. McDaniel's took over for Weis and did the same thing. Neither one of them developed the system or even the players In it.

McDaniel's?

Don't eat there, it's just a rip-off of McDowell's.

[Internet Apex]

Yeah, that McDaniel is a fucking genius.  I'm sure the latest fucknut to fall out of the Belicheck Tree isn't going to be a collosal failure like, well, all the rest of those guys.

I hadn't seen this before until someone bumped this thread today, but it's a really valid and under publicized point. 
Too many people confuse the Parcells Coaching Tree (rather successful) with the Belichick Coaching Tree (completely unsuccessful to date).

Not saying that McDaniels is a bad Coach or Jay Cutler isn't missing out on a good system for him, but the assumption that all things Belichick are successful is a complete fallacy.

Just to put specific names to it...guys with NFL Head Coaching experience who previously worked under Belichick:
    * Romeo Crennel, Cleveland Browns (2005–2008) Record: 24-40
    * Al Groh, New York Jets (2000) Record: 9-7
    * Josh McDaniels, Denver Broncos (2009–present) No record
    * Eric Mangini, New York Jets (2006–2008), Cleveland Browns (2009–present) Record: 23-25
    * Nick Saban, Miami Dolphins (2005–2006) Record: 15-17
    * Jim Schwartz, Detroit Lions (2009–present) No Record.

Granted, these guys all took over pretty bad franchises and Crennel's record really kills the group, but that's a total career record of 71-89.

McDaniel's may end up being a good coach, but first off, I love how people forget that what Started the Cutler problem was McDaniel's WANTING to trade Jay. Jay's really not all that great for the horizontal defense McDaniel's likes to run, and McDaniel's wanted someone who plays a safer style of football in Matt Cassel. Also, the problem with both Mangini and McDaniel's is that they both get a lot of credit for being prodigies, but they both were simply coordinators who took over highly successful units and managed not to fuck them up. Crennel was the defensive coordinator, so he got the Browns job. Mangini took over the d-coordinator job and simply kept the thing running at the pace it had already been running at. McDaniel's took over for Weis and did the same thing. Neither one of them developed the system or even the players In it.

McDaniel's?

Don't eat there, it's just a rip-off of McDowell's.

Stay off the drugs, son.

[Brownie]

Ah, everybody missed yesterday's MMQB? King has three travel notes, all worth checking out, but here's his little ode to the Northwest Side:

Enjoyable/Aggravating Chicago Travel Note of the Week I

One hour and 26 minutes. That's how long it took me to drive the 19 miles from the fringe of downtown Chicago to the Hertz car-rental return area at O'Hare Airport Thursday evening around 7.

At one point, I was stopped in the far left lane of the four-lane westbound Kennedy Expressway for about two minutes. Dead stop. And there was no accident, at least none that I could see as I crawled along, and no sirens or lights flashing.

That drive -- the downtown area to O'Hare -- is officially the worst drive in the United States. None can top it. The Cross Bronx Expressway on an August Friday night at 6 contends, but it's just not the same. L.A. freeways are awful, consistently, but you move on them. Crawl sometimes, but you're moving faster than you do most of the time on the Kennedy. I've made it in 25 minutes a couple of times, but mostly in 50 minutes or longer, at all hours of the day and night. It is sheer misery. How do the people in Chicago stand it?

[MAD]

Ah, everybody missed yesterday's MMQB? King has three travel notes, all worth checking out, but here's his little ode to the Northwest Side:

Enjoyable/Aggravating Chicago Travel Note of the Week I

One hour and 26 minutes. That's how long it took me to drive the 19 miles from the fringe of downtown Chicago to the Hertz car-rental return area at O'Hare Airport Thursday evening around 7.

At one point, I was stopped in the far left lane of the four-lane westbound Kennedy Expressway for about two minutes. Dead stop. And there was no accident, at least none that I could see as I crawled along, and no sirens or lights flashing.

That drive -- the downtown area to O'Hare -- is officially the worst drive in the United States. None can top it. The Cross Bronx Expressway on an August Friday night at 6 contends, but it's just not the same. L.A. freeways are awful, consistently, but you move on them. Crawl sometimes, but you're moving faster than you do most of the time on the Kennedy. I've made it in 25 minutes a couple of times, but mostly in 50 minutes or longer, at all hours of the day and night. It is sheer misery. How do the people in Chicago stand it?

That's not even the worst drive in Chicago.  Try going from the post office to 53 on the Eisenhower during rush hour.