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[SKO]

DPD, but I just looked and the 2011 Cardinals would also probably make this list, as they were just 5th in runs scored in MLB and fuckin 12th in ERA. God dammit.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

DPD, but I just looked and the 2011 Cardinals would also probably make this list, as they were just 5th in runs scored in MLB and fuckin 12th in ERA. God dammit.

Small solace, but the '04 Cardinals won over 100 games and never even held a lead in that season's World Series.

[Quality Start Machine]

This article is old and I'd like to see how if last year's Cubs maybe crack that top 5/10 teams list, but the 10 Weakest World Series Winners since 1946, per Joe Posnanski (based on how that team ranked in MLB in their respective seasons in runs scored and runs allowed):

10- 2010 Giants
9- 1982 Cardinals
8- 1959 Dodgers
7- 1964 Cardinals
6- 1996 Yankees
5- 2003 Marlins
4- 1985 Royals
3- 2000 Yankees
2- 2006 Cardinals
1- 1987 Twins

How very, very Cardinalsy that they have THREE of the ten most mediocre teams to win a world series. Also painful that the 2003 Marlins are on that list. And really annoying that 2 of those 4 Yankee teams were mediocre and just hot as shit in October, denying us something good like a Mariners or Cleveland Championship.

Since the Cubs had an insane run differential last year, I'm guessing they rank among the great teams of all time on this list.

[SKO]

DPD, but I just looked and the 2011 Cardinals would also probably make this list, as they were just 5th in runs scored in MLB and fuckin 12th in ERA. God dammit.

Small solace, but the '04 Cardinals won over 100 games and never even held a lead in that season's World Series.

I vote we disallow their rings for 64, 82, 06, and 11 based on them being undeserving, then also take out any of the ones they won during WWII while the good players were off fighting, so that takes away 42 and 44.

Ergo the Cardinals a franchise lead the Cubs in World Series titles by a mere 4-3 margin.

[SKO]

DPD, but I just looked and the 2011 Cardinals would also probably make this list, as they were just 5th in runs scored in MLB and fuckin 12th in ERA. God dammit.

Small solace, but the '04 Cardinals won over 100 games and never even held a lead in that season's World Series.

I mean really it evens out a bit because the 1985 Cardinals got fucked by Don Denkinger and then they were also the team that managed to lose to the absolute worst WS winner ever, the 1987 Twins, who had a negative run differential.

[SKO]

To use a different methodology, by Pythagorean Winning % the 10 Worst World Series Winners ever:


1)1987 Twins .488
2)2006 Cardinals- .509
3)1959 Dodgers- .525
4)1985 Royals- .531
5)2003 Marlins- .537
6)2014 Giants- .537
7)2000 Yankees- .540
8-12) 64 Cardinals, 96 Yanks, 97 Marlins, '11 Cardinals, '12 Giants -.543

Obviously we need to contract the Marlins, as I have been saying for years. What a garbage franchise with two stolen world series from more-deserving fanbases.

10 Best WS Winners by Pythag %:
1) 1939 Yanks- .735
2) 1927 Yanks- .708
3) 1942 Cards- .695
4) 1944 Cards- .695
5) 1909 Pirates- .691
6) 1910 A's- .687
7) 1905 Giants- .686
8) 1907 Cubs- .671
9) 1912 Red Sox- .671
10) 1948 Indians-. 671

Obviously based on the fact that all of the worst winners are post-WWII and the best are all before 1949, we need to adjust for how much harder it was to dominate after integration/FA, etc, so the 10 best post-integration:

1) 1948 Indians - .671
2) 1953 Yankees- .669
3) 1998 Yankees- .667
4) 2016 Cubs- .665
5) 1975 Reds- .660
6) 1970 Orioles- .642
7-11) 1956 Yankees, 1961 Yankees, 1968 Tigers, 1976 Reds, 1986 Mets all tied with .636.

So as I have long suspected the 2016 Cubs are indeed one of the 5 best world series winners of the integration era and also the best team since the 1998 Yankees.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

To use a different methodology, by Pythagorean Winning % the 10 Worst World Series Winners ever:


1)1987 Twins .488
2)2006 Cardinals- .509
3)1959 Dodgers- .525
4)1985 Royals- .531
5)2003 Marlins- .537
6)2014 Giants- .537
7)2000 Yankees- .540
8-12) 64 Cardinals, 96 Yanks, 97 Marlins, '11 Cardinals, '12 Giants -.543

Obviously we need to contract the Marlins, as I have been saying for years. What a garbage franchise with two stolen world series from more-deserving fanbases.

10 Best WS Winners by Pythag %:
1) 1939 Yanks- .735
2) 1927 Yanks- .708
3) 1942 Cards- .695
4) 1944 Cards- .695
5) 1909 Pirates- .691
6) 1910 A's- .687
7) 1905 Giants- .686
8) 1907 Cubs- .671
9) 1912 Red Sox- .671
10) 1948 Indians-. 671

Obviously based on the fact that all of the worst winners are post-WWII and the best are all before 1949, we need to adjust for how much harder it was to dominate after integration/FA, etc, so the 10 best post-integration:

1) 1948 Indians - .671
2) 1953 Yankees- .669
3) 1998 Yankees- .667
4) 2016 Cubs- .665
5) 1975 Reds- .660
6) 1970 Orioles- .642
7-11) 1956 Yankees, 1961 Yankees, 1968 Tigers, 1976 Reds, 1986 Mets all tied with .636.

So as I have long suspected the 2006 Cubs are indeed one of the 5 best world series winners of the integration era and also the best team since the 1998 Yankees.

I love that the Cardinals' 2 most dominant championship seasons were during a time in which the rest of the league's rosters were comprised of players who were, to use MikeRoyko's description, "too old and/or too enfeebled' to fight in the War.

Fucking draft dodging opportunists.

[SKO]

To use a different methodology, by Pythagorean Winning % the 10 Worst World Series Winners ever:


1)1987 Twins .488
2)2006 Cardinals- .509
3)1959 Dodgers- .525
4)1985 Royals- .531
5)2003 Marlins- .537
6)2014 Giants- .537
7)2000 Yankees- .540
8-12) 64 Cardinals, 96 Yanks, 97 Marlins, '11 Cardinals, '12 Giants -.543

Obviously we need to contract the Marlins, as I have been saying for years. What a garbage franchise with two stolen world series from more-deserving fanbases.

10 Best WS Winners by Pythag %:
1) 1939 Yanks- .735
2) 1927 Yanks- .708
3) 1942 Cards- .695
4) 1944 Cards- .695
5) 1909 Pirates- .691
6) 1910 A's- .687
7) 1905 Giants- .686
8) 1907 Cubs- .671
9) 1912 Red Sox- .671
10) 1948 Indians-. 671

Obviously based on the fact that all of the worst winners are post-WWII and the best are all before 1949, we need to adjust for how much harder it was to dominate after integration/FA, etc, so the 10 best post-integration:

1) 1948 Indians - .671
2) 1953 Yankees- .669
3) 1998 Yankees- .667
4) 2016 Cubs- .665
5) 1975 Reds- .660
6) 1970 Orioles- .642
7-11) 1956 Yankees, 1961 Yankees, 1968 Tigers, 1976 Reds, 1986 Mets all tied with .636.

So as I have long suspected the 2006 Cubs are indeed one of the 5 best world series winners of the integration era and also the best team since the 1998 Yankees.

I love that the Cardinals' 2 most dominant championship seasons were during a time in which the rest of the league's rosters were comprised of players who were, to use MikeRoyko's description, "too old and/or too enfeebled' to fight in the War.

Fucking draft dodging opportunists.

Frankly I am generally in favor of keeping Pre-1947 stats separate the same way we do Negro League or Japanese League stats, since that really should just be called Caucasian League Baseball. If you cut out all the Cardinals pre-integration titles they're down to just 1964, 1967, 1982, 2006, and 2011.

Those teams rank 57, 59, 31, 62, 69 out of the 70 integrated world series champions.  What a fraudulent franchise.

[Saul Goodman]

So as I have long suspected the 2006 Cubs are indeed one of the 5 best world series winners of the integration era and also the best team since the 1998 Yankees.

And no one is more surprised by that than the members of the 2006 Cubs.

[SKO]

For inner city rivalry purposes I will note the 2005 White Sox come in just above the 82 Brewers at #56, with a Pythagorean W-L record of 91-71 (.562%). If you felt like that team was a random assortment of guys having career years and getting extremely lucky in terms of bullshit run prevention, that was actually not just inner city butthurt talking. Totally valid assessment.

[SKO]

So as I have long suspected the 2006 Cubs are indeed one of the 5 best world series winners of the integration era and also the best team since the 1998 Yankees.

And no one is more surprised by that than the members of the 2006 Cubs.

Freddy Bynum or John Mabry for WS MVP? Split the vote?

[Brownie]

This article is old and I'd like to see how if last year's Cubs maybe crack that top 5/10 teams list, but the 10 Weakest World Series Winners since 1946, per Joe Posnanski (based on how that team ranked in MLB in their respective seasons in runs scored and runs allowed):

10- 2010 Giants
9- 1982 Cardinals
8- 1959 Dodgers
7- 1964 Cardinals
6- 1996 Yankees
5- 2003 Marlins
4- 1985 Royals
3- 2000 Yankees
2- 2006 Cardinals
1- 1987 Twins

How very, very Cardinalsy that they have THREE of the ten most mediocre teams to win a world series. Also painful that the 2003 Marlins are on that list. And really annoying that 2 of those 4 Yankee teams were mediocre and just hot as shit in October, denying us something good like a Mariners or Cleveland Championship.

They were also beaten by two of them. They also blew a 3-1 NLCS lead to a team that lost to another team on that list, and blew a division title to a team that blew a 3-1 lead in the NLCS to a team on this list.

[SKO]

This article is old and I'd like to see how if last year's Cubs maybe crack that top 5/10 teams list, but the 10 Weakest World Series Winners since 1946, per Joe Posnanski (based on how that team ranked in MLB in their respective seasons in runs scored and runs allowed):

10- 2010 Giants
9- 1982 Cardinals
8- 1959 Dodgers
7- 1964 Cardinals
6- 1996 Yankees
5- 2003 Marlins
4- 1985 Royals
3- 2000 Yankees
2- 2006 Cardinals
1- 1987 Twins

How very, very Cardinalsy that they have THREE of the ten most mediocre teams to win a world series. Also painful that the 2003 Marlins are on that list. And really annoying that 2 of those 4 Yankee teams were mediocre and just hot as shit in October, denying us something good like a Mariners or Cleveland Championship.

They were also beaten by two of them. They also blew a 3-1 NLCS lead to a team that lost to another team on that list, and blew a division title to a team that blew a 3-1 lead in the NLCS to a team on this list.

See this proves the Desipio theorem that all postseasons resulting in Cardinals World Series appearances should just be cancelled/nullified, bc the teams participating clearly suck.

[Saul Goodman]

So as I have long suspected the 2006 Cubs are indeed one of the 5 best world series winners of the integration era and also the best team since the 1998 Yankees.

And no one is more surprised by that than the members of the 2006 Cubs.

Freddy Bynum or John Mabry for WS MVP? Split the vote?

I was thinking Matt Murton or Ronny Cedeno. To be fair, it's hard to pick just one MVP on that team.

[Brownie]

This article is old and I'd like to see how if last year's Cubs maybe crack that top 5/10 teams list, but the 10 Weakest World Series Winners since 1946, per Joe Posnanski (based on how that team ranked in MLB in their respective seasons in runs scored and runs allowed):

10- 2010 Giants
9- 1982 Cardinals
8- 1959 Dodgers
7- 1964 Cardinals
6- 1996 Yankees
5- 2003 Marlins
4- 1985 Royals
3- 2000 Yankees
2- 2006 Cardinals
1- 1987 Twins

How very, very Cardinalsy that they have THREE of the ten most mediocre teams to win a world series. Also painful that the 2003 Marlins are on that list. And really annoying that 2 of those 4 Yankee teams were mediocre and just hot as shit in October, denying us something good like a Mariners or Cleveland Championship.

They were also beaten by two of them. They also blew a 3-1 NLCS lead to a team that lost to another team on that list, and blew a division title to a team that blew a 3-1 lead in the NLCS to a team on this list.

See this proves the Desipio theorem that all postseasons resulting in Cardinals World Series appearances should just be cancelled/nullified, bc the teams participating clearly suck.

Yes, should it ever get to that. I, for one, was elated that MLB decided to bring back the World Series after a 108-year absence.