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Re: Bulls are insignificant right now.
« Reply #1215 on: August 17, 2010, 12:57:18 PM »
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See if you can fit this into the expanse of your cranium...

Not only did Worthy average a point and a half a game more than Pippen over the course of his career(17.6/16.1), he also had a FG percentage of .521 to Pippen's .473. When you get into playoff numbers, Worthy's PPG is 21.1 to Pippen's 17.5. Which means he actually got a lot better in crunch time.

You can have Pippen, I'd take Worthy.

Yeah, I already mentioned Worthy's slightly-more efficient scoring.  What about Pippen's far superior defense, and his edge in rebounding and distributing the ball?

He was superior defensively. Never said he wasn't. I would rather have Worthy if I needed to win a big game.

Ah yes. The platonic ideal big game team argument. Irrefutable.

This is opinion, son. I'd rather have Worthy. I think he was better. I also think Pippen was lucky as shit to wind up being MJ's wingman, but he'd hardly be the first HOFer in any sport to get in that way.

Shit, I'm sure if I went to Cincinnati and said Tony Perez has no business in the HOF (something else I believe) or went to NY and said the same thing about Don Mattingly (fortunately, for now the BBWAA agrees), I'd get the same pushback.



I think Pippen and Worthy are comperable and I'd take Worthy based on the fact that he never opened up his fly and urinated on his entire team at the end of a crucial playof game. If you put Pippen on the 80s Lakers, you wouldn't miss a beat though. they, too, may have 3-peated.  At least once.  Or at least beaten Houston in the Conference Finals in '86.  Or beaten Boston in in the Finals in '84.  Or not have gotten swept by the Pistons in 1989--something not even the up-and-coming Bulls had happen to them at the hands of Detroit...though the Bulls with Scottie did sweep Detroit once.

We're talking what happened, though, not what might have happened'd.

I don't know - Hosuton had a pretty tough team in '86. JOlauown was a besat.

True.  Also, Boston went 40-1 at home in a season upon which most people agree was their finest in the Bird Era (even though MJeff almost lit them up at home when he scored 63 in a  triple overtime loss in the First Round); so  that would have just led to more James Worthy tears-of-failure anyway.

Edited before SKO caught it, otherwise I'd have left the PANKism in.
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Re: Bulls are insignificant right now.
« Reply #1216 on: August 17, 2010, 12:59:10 PM »
Quote from: PANK! on August 17, 2010, 12:57:18 PM
Quote from: R-V on August 17, 2010, 12:54:26 PM
Quote from: PANK! on August 17, 2010, 12:50:01 PM
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See if you can fit this into the expanse of your cranium...

Not only did Worthy average a point and a half a game more than Pippen over the course of his career(17.6/16.1), he also had a FG percentage of .521 to Pippen's .473. When you get into playoff numbers, Worthy's PPG is 21.1 to Pippen's 17.5. Which means he actually got a lot better in crunch time.

You can have Pippen, I'd take Worthy.

Yeah, I already mentioned Worthy's slightly-more efficient scoring.  What about Pippen's far superior defense, and his edge in rebounding and distributing the ball?

He was superior defensively. Never said he wasn't. I would rather have Worthy if I needed to win a big game.

Ah yes. The platonic ideal big game team argument. Irrefutable.

This is opinion, son. I'd rather have Worthy. I think he was better. I also think Pippen was lucky as shit to wind up being MJ's wingman, but he'd hardly be the first HOFer in any sport to get in that way.

Shit, I'm sure if I went to Cincinnati and said Tony Perez has no business in the HOF (something else I believe) or went to NY and said the same thing about Don Mattingly (fortunately, for now the BBWAA agrees), I'd get the same pushback.



I think Pippen and Worthy are comperable and I'd take Worthy based on the fact that he never opened up his fly and urinated on his entire team at the end of a crucial playof game. If you put Pippen on the 80s Lakers, you wouldn't miss a beat though. they, too, may have 3-peated.  At least once.  Or at least beaten Houston in the Conference Finals in '86.  Or beaten Boston in in the Finals in '84.  Or not have gotten swept by the Pistons in 1989--something not even the up-and-coming Bulls had happen to them at the hands of Detroit...though the Bulls with Scottie did sweep Detroit once.

We're talking what happened, though, not what might have happened'd.

I don't know - Hosuton had a pretty tough team in '86. JOlauown was a besat.

True.  Also, Boston went 40-1 at home in a season upon which most people agree was their finest in the Bird Era (even though MJeff almost lit them up at home when he scored 63 in a first round, triple overtime loss in the First Round); so  that would have just led to more James Worthy tears-of-failure anyway.

Jordan's 63 point game, was that in the first round?
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Re: Bulls are insignificant right now.
« Reply #1217 on: August 17, 2010, 01:00:51 PM »
Quote from: SKO on August 17, 2010, 12:59:10 PM
Quote from: PANK! on August 17, 2010, 12:57:18 PM
Quote from: R-V on August 17, 2010, 12:54:26 PM
Quote from: PANK! on August 17, 2010, 12:50:01 PM
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See if you can fit this into the expanse of your cranium...

Not only did Worthy average a point and a half a game more than Pippen over the course of his career(17.6/16.1), he also had a FG percentage of .521 to Pippen's .473. When you get into playoff numbers, Worthy's PPG is 21.1 to Pippen's 17.5. Which means he actually got a lot better in crunch time.

You can have Pippen, I'd take Worthy.

Yeah, I already mentioned Worthy's slightly-more efficient scoring.  What about Pippen's far superior defense, and his edge in rebounding and distributing the ball?

He was superior defensively. Never said he wasn't. I would rather have Worthy if I needed to win a big game.

Ah yes. The platonic ideal big game team argument. Irrefutable.

This is opinion, son. I'd rather have Worthy. I think he was better. I also think Pippen was lucky as shit to wind up being MJ's wingman, but he'd hardly be the first HOFer in any sport to get in that way.

Shit, I'm sure if I went to Cincinnati and said Tony Perez has no business in the HOF (something else I believe) or went to NY and said the same thing about Don Mattingly (fortunately, for now the BBWAA agrees), I'd get the same pushback.



I think Pippen and Worthy are comperable and I'd take Worthy based on the fact that he never opened up his fly and urinated on his entire team at the end of a crucial playof game. If you put Pippen on the 80s Lakers, you wouldn't miss a beat though. they, too, may have 3-peated.  At least once.  Or at least beaten Houston in the Conference Finals in '86.  Or beaten Boston in in the Finals in '84.  Or not have gotten swept by the Pistons in 1989--something not even the up-and-coming Bulls had happen to them at the hands of Detroit...though the Bulls with Scottie did sweep Detroit once.

We're talking what happened, though, not what might have happened'd.

I don't know - Hosuton had a pretty tough team in '86. JOlauown was a besat.

True.  Also, Boston went 40-1 at home in a season upon which most people agree was their finest in the Bird Era (even though MJeff almost lit them up at home when he scored 63 in a first round, triple overtime loss in the First Round); so  that would have just led to more James Worthy tears-of-failure anyway.

Jordan's 63 point game, was that in the first round?

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Re: Bulls are insignificant right now.
« Reply #1218 on: August 17, 2010, 01:35:13 PM »
Shit, son.

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Re: Bulls are insignificant right now.
« Reply #1219 on: August 17, 2010, 01:45:40 PM »
So, to recap:

Bulls Fans: Scottie Pippen was an awesome basketball player and we feel was better than James Worthy.

Knick Fans: 1.8 second omfglolz!!!!!!!!!1

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Re: Bulls are insignificant right now.
« Reply #1220 on: August 17, 2010, 01:48:44 PM »
Quote from: Ivy6 on August 17, 2010, 01:45:40 PM
So, to recap:

Bulls Fans: Scottie Pippen was an awesome basketball player and we feel was better than James Worthylove to suck cock.

Knick Fans: 1.8 second omfglolz!!!!!!!!!1

Summation'd.
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Re: Bulls are insignificant right now.
« Reply #1221 on: August 17, 2010, 01:51:06 PM »
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 17, 2010, 01:48:44 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on August 17, 2010, 01:45:40 PM
So, to recap:

Bulls Fans: Scottie Pippen was an awesome basketball player and we feel was better than James Worthylove to suck cock.

Knick Fans: 1.8 second omfglolz!!!!!!!!!1

Summation'd.

Got some syntax issues there.

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Re: Bulls are insignificant right now.
« Reply #1222 on: August 17, 2010, 01:54:03 PM »
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 17, 2010, 01:48:44 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on August 17, 2010, 01:45:40 PM
So, to recap:

Bulls Fans: Scottie Pippen was an awesome basketball player and we feel was better than James Worthylove to suck cock.

Knick Fans: 1.8 second omfglolz!!!!!!!!!1

Summation'd.

I admit that this was childish but it made me laugh.
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Re: Bulls are insignificant right now.
« Reply #1223 on: August 17, 2010, 01:55:11 PM »
Quote from: Ivy6 on August 17, 2010, 01:45:40 PM
So, to recap:

Bulls Fans: Scottie Pippen was an awesome basketball player and we feel was better than James Worthy.

Knick Fans: 1.8 second omfglolz!!!!!!!!!1

Knicks fans also feel that Pippen was better than James Worthy, they just apparently would rather have the worse player.  But only if it was a big game.

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Re: Bulls are insignificant right now.
« Reply #1224 on: August 17, 2010, 01:59:35 PM »
Quote from: Eli on August 17, 2010, 01:55:11 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on August 17, 2010, 01:45:40 PM
So, to recap:

Bulls Fans: Scottie Pippen was an awesome basketball player and we feel was better than James Worthy.

Knick Fans: 1.8 second omfglolz!!!!!!!!!1

Knicks fans also feel that Pippen was better than James Worthy, they just apparently would rather have the worse player.  But only if it was a big game.

I don't think either of the Knicks fans on this forum said that, but maybe you know somebody who did.

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Re: Bulls are insignificant right now.
« Reply #1225 on: August 17, 2010, 02:06:26 PM »
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 17, 2010, 01:59:35 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 17, 2010, 01:55:11 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on August 17, 2010, 01:45:40 PM
So, to recap:

Bulls Fans: Scottie Pippen was an awesome basketball player and we feel was better than James Worthy.

Knick Fans: 1.8 second omfglolz!!!!!!!!!1

Knicks fans also feel that Pippen was better than James Worthy, they just apparently would rather have the worse player.  But only if it was a big game.

I don't think either of the Knicks fans on this forum said that, but maybe you know somebody who did.



You're right. That's my mistake. Fork did say that he thought Worthy was better, he just couldn't provide any evidence why because it was opinion-based, which is irrefutable.

For example, in my opinion, I'm taller than Yao Ming. Can't be shot down.

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Re: Bulls are insignificant right now.
« Reply #1226 on: August 17, 2010, 02:07:49 PM »
Quote from: Eli on August 17, 2010, 02:06:26 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 17, 2010, 01:59:35 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 17, 2010, 01:55:11 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on August 17, 2010, 01:45:40 PM
So, to recap:

Bulls Fans: Scottie Pippen was an awesome basketball player and we feel was better than James Worthy.

Knick Fans: 1.8 second omfglolz!!!!!!!!!1

Knicks fans also feel that Pippen was better than James Worthy, they just apparently would rather have the worse player.  But only if it was a big game.

I don't think either of the Knicks fans on this forum said that, but maybe you know somebody who did.



You're right. That's my mistake. Fork did say that he thought Worthy was better, he just couldn't provide any evidence why because it was opinion-based, which is irrefutable.

For example, in my opinion, I'm taller than Yao Ming. Can't be shot down.

There's only one way to settle this. Ask Weebs about it.
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Re: Bulls are insignificant right now.
« Reply #1227 on: August 17, 2010, 02:10:00 PM »
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 17, 2010, 02:07:49 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 17, 2010, 02:06:26 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 17, 2010, 01:59:35 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 17, 2010, 01:55:11 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on August 17, 2010, 01:45:40 PM
So, to recap:

Bulls Fans: Scottie Pippen was an awesome basketball player and we feel was better than James Worthy.

Knick Fans: 1.8 second omfglolz!!!!!!!!!1

Knicks fans also feel that Pippen was better than James Worthy, they just apparently would rather have the worse player.  But only if it was a big game.

I don't think either of the Knicks fans on this forum said that, but maybe you know somebody who did.



You're right. That's my mistake. Fork did say that he thought Worthy was better, he just couldn't provide any evidence why because it was opinion-based, which is irrefutable.

For example, in my opinion, I'm taller than Yao Ming. Can't be shot down.

There's only one way to settle this. Ask Weebs about it.

Then do the opposite.
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Re: Bulls are insignificant right now.
« Reply #1228 on: August 17, 2010, 02:24:16 PM »
Quote from: Eli on August 17, 2010, 02:06:26 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 17, 2010, 01:59:35 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 17, 2010, 01:55:11 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on August 17, 2010, 01:45:40 PM
So, to recap:

Bulls Fans: Scottie Pippen was an awesome basketball player and we feel was better than James Worthy.

Knick Fans: 1.8 second omfglolz!!!!!!!!!1

Knicks fans also feel that Pippen was better than James Worthy, they just apparently would rather have the worse player.  But only if it was a big game.

I don't think either of the Knicks fans on this forum said that, but maybe you know somebody who did.



You're right. That's my mistake. Fork did say that he thought Worthy was better, he just couldn't provide any evidence why because it was opinion-based, which is irrefutable.

For example, in my opinion, I'm taller than Yao Ming. Can't be shot down.

Fork and I are hard at work on a formula that would calculate who's better between two players whose primes were a decade apart. We should have it done by lunchtime tomorrow. Do you have an email address where we can send you the link to a picture of British Muscle Bear or would you prefer IM?
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Re: Bulls are insignificant right now.
« Reply #1229 on: August 17, 2010, 02:29:37 PM »
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 17, 2010, 02:24:16 PM
Fork and I are hard at work on a formula that would calculate who's better between two players whose primes were a decade apart.

Why don't you just steal the existing ones?