New Music & Stuff I Recently Acquired

[Tonker]

To expand on Tonk's song quoting, while there is beauty to be found in a really good album, there is nothing as enjoyable to me as a perfectly crafted single. Phil Spector was capable of doing more in 2 minutes 30 seconds than Pink Floyd could do in a double album.

Neither Nirvana album could capture the disenfranchisement and alienation of youth as perfectly as "Blitzkrieg Bop".

No number of books about Beatlemania could explain what the fuss was all about as neatly as everything from the drum roll to the ending harmony of "She Loves You".

I don't disagree; however, your point is generational.  I would disagree about your conclusions, however.  I'm not about to argue against Phil Spector (or anything that was done in Detroit at the time).  Nor am I going to take anything away from The Ramones.  However, to dismiss Nirvana so brazenly shows nothing except that you came of age about 13 years before I did.

There's no way you can tell me, that as a 19 year old kid going away to college that the angst I felt about what was going on around me, and to me, was somehow less valid than what you went through.  You had The Ramones; we had Nirvana.  One is more relevant than the other because one came earlier.  Teenage angst is a crazy thing, and we may make fun of it in our thirties, but God damn we felt that shit and it made us who we are.

The funny thing is that you didn't even mention what may be the most influential angst in our lifetimes, the hip hop/rap movement.  The evolution of that genre and the voice it gave to millions of youths who had no voice before is completely overlooked.  Granted, as with any sub-genre, it gave rise to a load of crap, but Afrika Bambata and Public Enemy and The Roots are as important to our culture as The Ramones and (putting on the flame suit) The Beach Boys.

Rock N Roll has proven to be an ever-evolving art-form.  We have moved from 2 minute AM singles to wall of sound, record-side length "songs" of the Dead to teenage anger punk to an inner city voice with rap and hip-hop.  And everything in between and back again.  Nothing in rock music is linear, and that's what makes it so fucking awesome.

Arguing about REM vs The Jam is splitting hairs.

Holy shit, do I love rock-n-roll!

I don't care what generation you're a part of, how could you possibly think that The Ramones are anything but unadulterated crap? Sure, they had spunk and all, but I'm still not even sure that they ever decided to write another melody after their first one....

"Rock and roll is all about attitude. you don't have to play the best guitar" - Johnny Thunders

How about attitude and great guitar?
The Ramones never did it for me, the whole worshipping of them always seemed a little forced and too New York centric.
My biggest dissapointment with The Jam is that they didn't last longer, recording only from 77 to 82. I feel the same way about the Talking Heads.
In high school I thought Rush was the fucking balls. I haven't listened to them in years.
But I loved Zappa at that time as well and I appreciate him more now than ever. Maybe I grew up.  
Who else rocked early on and his later stuff makes me fall asleep?

Part of the reason the Jam were so good is that they never had time to get old or wear thin.  They burned out fast, but by Christ they burned bright.  Same goes for the Beatles, to an extent.  And Fawlty Towers and The Office.  Who the fuck cares what was on the Stones' latest album?  I couldn't even tell you what it's called.  They could have stopped after "Let it Bleed" and "Sticky Fingers" and that would have been fine by me.

The next three albums the Jam never made would probably have let us all down terribly.  They'd have been the Style Council, in fact.

[butthead]

Who the fuck cares what was on the Stones' latest album?  I couldn't even tell you what it's called.  They could have stopped after "Let it Bleed" and "Sticky Fingers" and that would have been fine by me.

Aren't you forgetting something?

[Oleg]

Who the fuck cares what was on the Stones' latest album?  I couldn't even tell you what it's called.  They could have stopped after "Let it Bleed" and "Sticky Fingers" and that would have been fine by me.

Aren't you forgetting something?

And...

[5laky]

Paul Di'Anno vs. Bruce Dickinson

The answer should be obvious to anyone with taste.

Dickinson without a doubt.

By the way - Dickinson is the worst last name for a father to have.

Men of true taste and distinction.

(Bracing for Tonker...)

FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

My half-Scottish brother in law says that EVERY TWO MINUTES. What is wrong with you people?

[butthead]

Who the fuck cares what was on the Stones' latest album?  I couldn't even tell you what it's called.  They could have stopped after "Let it Bleed" and "Sticky Fingers" and that would have been fine by me.

Aren't you forgetting something?

And...

This one ain't too shabby either.

[flannj]

To expand on Tonk's song quoting, while there is beauty to be found in a really good album, there is nothing as enjoyable to me as a perfectly crafted single. Phil Spector was capable of doing more in 2 minutes 30 seconds than Pink Floyd could do in a double album.

Neither Nirvana album could capture the disenfranchisement and alienation of youth as perfectly as "Blitzkrieg Bop".

No number of books about Beatlemania could explain what the fuss was all about as neatly as everything from the drum roll to the ending harmony of "She Loves You".

I don't disagree; however, your point is generational.  I would disagree about your conclusions, however.  I'm not about to argue against Phil Spector (or anything that was done in Detroit at the time).  Nor am I going to take anything away from The Ramones.  However, to dismiss Nirvana so brazenly shows nothing except that you came of age about 13 years before I did.

There's no way you can tell me, that as a 19 year old kid going away to college that the angst I felt about what was going on around me, and to me, was somehow less valid than what you went through.  You had The Ramones; we had Nirvana.  One is more relevant than the other because one came earlier.  Teenage angst is a crazy thing, and we may make fun of it in our thirties, but God damn we felt that shit and it made us who we are.

The funny thing is that you didn't even mention what may be the most influential angst in our lifetimes, the hip hop/rap movement.  The evolution of that genre and the voice it gave to millions of youths who had no voice before is completely overlooked.  Granted, as with any sub-genre, it gave rise to a load of crap, but Afrika Bambata and Public Enemy and The Roots are as important to our culture as The Ramones and (putting on the flame suit) The Beach Boys.

Rock N Roll has proven to be an ever-evolving art-form.  We have moved from 2 minute AM singles to wall of sound, record-side length "songs" of the Dead to teenage anger punk to an inner city voice with rap and hip-hop.  And everything in between and back again.  Nothing in rock music is linear, and that's what makes it so fucking awesome.

Arguing about REM vs The Jam is splitting hairs.

Holy shit, do I love rock-n-roll!

I don't care what generation you're a part of, how could you possibly think that The Ramones are anything but unadulterated crap? Sure, they had spunk and all, but I'm still not even sure that they ever decided to write another melody after their first one....

"Rock and roll is all about attitude. you don't have to play the best guitar" - Johnny Thunders

How about attitude and great guitar?
The Ramones never did it for me, the whole worshipping of them always seemed a little forced and too New York centric.
My biggest dissapointment with The Jam is that they didn't last longer, recording only from 77 to 82. I feel the same way about the Talking Heads.
In high school I thought Rush was the fucking balls. I haven't listened to them in years.
But I loved Zappa at that time as well and I appreciate him more now than ever. Maybe I grew up.  
Who else rocked early on and his later stuff makes me fall asleep?

Part of the reason the Jam were so good is that they never had time to get old or wear thin.  They burned out fast, but by Christ they burned bright.  Same goes for the Beatles, to an extent.  And Fawlty Towers and The Office.  Who the fuck cares what was on the Stones' latest album?  I couldn't even tell you what it's called.  They could have stopped after "Let it Bleed" and "Sticky Fingers" and that would have been fine by me.

The next three albums the Jam never made would probably have let us all down terribly.  They'd have been the Style Council, in fact.

sort of like...

[Oleg]

Who the fuck cares what was on the Stones' latest album?  I couldn't even tell you what it's called.  They could have stopped after "Let it Bleed" and "Sticky Fingers" and that would have been fine by me.

Aren't you forgetting something?

And...

This one ain't too shabby either.

That's about where it ends.

[5laky]

What sucks for those of my generation, who never got the chance to see these classic rock giants at their best, is that there won't be anything like those bands anymore. The Stones, The Who, Zeppelin, etc. Now, I wasn't around then so maybe they weren't as mainstream as I imagine them to be (the charts from those days tell me otherwise though).

But look at today's biggest acts. There aren't a ton of super popular rock bands with the body of work to back it up. Everything popular now is just not that good. You have to seek out the good stuff, and there's a lot of it. But those bands won't have the following that these bands from the 60s and 70s had. Not even close.

I don't know if I have a point.

It might be something like, the 60s and 70s were awesome.

[flannj]

Since I'm still awake...
from the best fucking album e v e r

I mean seriously, Dave Edmunds AND Nick Lowe?

[5laky]

So as I was saying way back in this thread - if there is a better song than "My Girls" by Animal Collective released in this calendar year, it'll be a fantastic year.

This here isn't a video for the song, but it's the only free listen to the full track I could find.

[MidgetSellingWater]

So as I was saying way back in this thread - if there is a better song than "My Girls" by Animal Collective released in this calendar year, it'll be a fantastic year.

This here isn't a video for the song, but it's the only free listen to the full track I could find.

You can stream the whole album (along with other pre-releases) here - http://3voor12.vpro.nl/luisterpaal/

Edit:  They only stay up for two weeks or so and it is now down.  Releases tomorrow though...

[Quality Start Machine]

To expand on Tonk's song quoting, while there is beauty to be found in a really good album, there is nothing as enjoyable to me as a perfectly crafted single. Phil Spector was capable of doing more in 2 minutes 30 seconds than Pink Floyd could do in a double album.

Neither Nirvana album could capture the disenfranchisement and alienation of youth as perfectly as "Blitzkrieg Bop".

No number of books about Beatlemania could explain what the fuss was all about as neatly as everything from the drum roll to the ending harmony of "She Loves You".

I don't disagree; however, your point is generational.  I would disagree about your conclusions, however.  I'm not about to argue against Phil Spector (or anything that was done in Detroit at the time).  Nor am I going to take anything away from The Ramones.  However, to dismiss Nirvana so brazenly shows nothing except that you came of age about 13 years before I did.

There's no way you can tell me, that as a 19 year old kid going away to college that the angst I felt about what was going on around me, and to me, was somehow less valid than what you went through.  You had The Ramones; we had Nirvana.  One is more relevant than the other because one came earlier.  Teenage angst is a crazy thing, and we may make fun of it in our thirties, but God damn we felt that shit and it made us who we are.

The funny thing is that you didn't even mention what may be the most influential angst in our lifetimes, the hip hop/rap movement.  The evolution of that genre and the voice it gave to millions of youths who had no voice before is completely overlooked.  Granted, as with any sub-genre, it gave rise to a load of crap, but Afrika Bambata and Public Enemy and The Roots are as important to our culture as The Ramones and (putting on the flame suit) The Beach Boys.

Rock N Roll has proven to be an ever-evolving art-form.  We have moved from 2 minute AM singles to wall of sound, record-side length "songs" of the Dead to teenage anger punk to an inner city voice with rap and hip-hop.  And everything in between and back again.  Nothing in rock music is linear, and that's what makes it so fucking awesome.

Arguing about REM vs The Jam is splitting hairs.

Holy shit, do I love rock-n-roll!

I don't care what generation you're a part of, how could you possibly think that The Ramones are anything but unadulterated crap? Sure, they had spunk and all, but I'm still not even sure that they ever decided to write another melody after their first one....

"Rock and roll is all about attitude. you don't have to play the best guitar" - Johnny Thunders

How about attitude and great guitar?
The Ramones never did it for me, the whole worshipping of them always seemed a little forced and too New York centric.
My biggest dissapointment with The Jam is that they didn't last longer, recording only from 77 to 82. I feel the same way about the Talking Heads.
In high school I thought Rush was the fucking balls. I haven't listened to them in years.
But I loved Zappa at that time as well and I appreciate him more now than ever. Maybe I grew up.  
Who else rocked early on but his later stuff makes me fall asleep?

I was thinking about starting a "great guitar solos" thread, and FZ's "Muffin Man" solo is where everyone should start.

[flannj]

To expand on Tonk's song quoting, while there is beauty to be found in a really good album, there is nothing as enjoyable to me as a perfectly crafted single. Phil Spector was capable of doing more in 2 minutes 30 seconds than Pink Floyd could do in a double album.

Neither Nirvana album could capture the disenfranchisement and alienation of youth as perfectly as "Blitzkrieg Bop".

No number of books about Beatlemania could explain what the fuss was all about as neatly as everything from the drum roll to the ending harmony of "She Loves You".

I don't disagree; however, your point is generational.  I would disagree about your conclusions, however.  I'm not about to argue against Phil Spector (or anything that was done in Detroit at the time).  Nor am I going to take anything away from The Ramones.  However, to dismiss Nirvana so brazenly shows nothing except that you came of age about 13 years before I did.

There's no way you can tell me, that as a 19 year old kid going away to college that the angst I felt about what was going on around me, and to me, was somehow less valid than what you went through.  You had The Ramones; we had Nirvana.  One is more relevant than the other because one came earlier.  Teenage angst is a crazy thing, and we may make fun of it in our thirties, but God damn we felt that shit and it made us who we are.

The funny thing is that you didn't even mention what may be the most influential angst in our lifetimes, the hip hop/rap movement.  The evolution of that genre and the voice it gave to millions of youths who had no voice before is completely overlooked.  Granted, as with any sub-genre, it gave rise to a load of crap, but Afrika Bambata and Public Enemy and The Roots are as important to our culture as The Ramones and (putting on the flame suit) The Beach Boys.

Rock N Roll has proven to be an ever-evolving art-form.  We have moved from 2 minute AM singles to wall of sound, record-side length "songs" of the Dead to teenage anger punk to an inner city voice with rap and hip-hop.  And everything in between and back again.  Nothing in rock music is linear, and that's what makes it so fucking awesome.

Arguing about REM vs The Jam is splitting hairs.

Holy shit, do I love rock-n-roll!

I don't care what generation you're a part of, how could you possibly think that The Ramones are anything but unadulterated crap? Sure, they had spunk and all, but I'm still not even sure that they ever decided to write another melody after their first one....

"Rock and roll is all about attitude. you don't have to play the best guitar" - Johnny Thunders

How about attitude and great guitar?
The Ramones never did it for me, the whole worshipping of them always seemed a little forced and too New York centric.
My biggest dissapointment with The Jam is that they didn't last longer, recording only from 77 to 82. I feel the same way about the Talking Heads.
In high school I thought Rush was the fucking balls. I haven't listened to them in years.
But I loved Zappa at that time as well and I appreciate him more now than ever. Maybe I grew up.  
Who else rocked early on but his later stuff makes me fall asleep?

I was thinking about starting a "great guitar solos" thread, and FZ's "Muffin Man" solo is where everyone should start.

Or here.

[Philberto]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owqeiVydPS4

Adding...

http://badnewscubs.wordpress.com/2009/01/13/all-the-faggots-talking-shit-about-jay-mariotti-faggot-wv23-rick-faggot-band-pavement-collusion/

Want proof of what a bunch of fucking dorks these statfags are? Click here.

When I was in college, the band that all the dorks liked was Pavement. Sebadoh, Super Chunk, Guided By Voices. These are bands that pussy ass faggots liked. The dude from Pavement was always crying because the Smashing Pumpkins were so much better than him. Likewise he resented the Seattle bands.

Want to know what the head faggot of Pavement, Stephen Malkmus, does with his spare time? Gay ass fantasy leagues. I guarantee he pores over gay ass shit like fag shares and ZORP too. This is the kind of rock group that Faggous Maximus and Shawn D. Goldman listen to. What a bunch of fucking idiots.

Can you imagine Shawn D. Goldman trying to defend someone in the post in basketball? Are you fucking serious? If you're playing football and you've got the ball... and the tackler ahead is Gauis Faggimous, do you A, run right; B, juke left; or C, run right at the faggot and watch him dip out of the way? Obvious answer.

I hate fucking Pavement. That band always sucked because he didn't have the guts to be emotional and honest in his writing. He's a pussy. So now he spends his time poring over stats in Fag Leagues. Fucking faggot.

Irish Yeti has a blog?

Yea, what of it?

[Quality Start Machine]

What sucks for those of my generation, who never got the chance to see these classic rock giants at their best, is that there won't be anything like those bands anymore. The Stones, The Who, Zeppelin, etc. Now, I wasn't around then so maybe they weren't as mainstream as I imagine them to be (the charts from those days tell me otherwise though).

But look at today's biggest acts. There aren't a ton of super popular rock bands with the body of work to back it up. Everything popular now is just not that good. You have to seek out the good stuff, and there's a lot of it. But those bands won't have the following that these bands from the 60s and 70s had. Not even close.

I don't know if I have a point.

It might be something like, the 60s and 70s were awesome.

I saw Zeppelin at the Stadium in '77. They blew huge chunks. Literally - I think Bonzo was puking on the drum riser.

Other than the Eagles in 1980, worst fucking concert I've ever been to, and I took a girlfriend to see the Bangles.