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Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:44:02 AM
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Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:25:52 AM
I just think Angelo does not understand what the Draft is about. The Bears have problems on the offensive line, at quarterback and in the defensive secondary. And he just spent the team's fourth pick of the draft on a DEFENSIVE TACKLE. This wasn't a problem area, Angelo... If you wanted to pick one in the last round or two for depth, all right, but in the third freaking round???

Actually after Dvoracek and Harris got hurt (again and again) it was a bit of a black hole. They needed depth there. I think that's what the draft is about.

You draft depth late when you have more than one problem area that needs to be solved. Holes have to be filled through the Draft in this era if the team isn't going to spend money for good free agents, which the Bears are notorious for not spending big free agent money. The Bears still have big problems on the offensive line, quarterback and defensive secondary. I don't think JUST the Williams pick is going to solve the O-Line. I actually think the Bears need to draft another WR as well, but that point is arguable.

Justin King, Booty, Ainge or Scandrick from Boise State would have been much more appropriate picks.

Ainge?  Really?  You must have not seen him play at Tennessee. 

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Quote from: butthead on April 27, 2008, 10:58:29 AM
BC, safety is a need. Corner is not. You really hate P'nut that much? Really? You're out of your goddamn mind.

And until Dusty Dvoracek quits making Mike Brown look reliable, D tackle is a priority.

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The secondary was a big problem for last year's team, it should have been obvious through just watching the games. Unfortunately, management seems to want to avoid recognizing the problem just as much as you guys do. Either a safety or a corner, I don't care. I would prefer a corner to eventually help push Tillman to safety, which I think is where he should be, but a safety would be fine as well. Just do something there, and soon.

Personally, I would have most liked a Justin King pick there. But a QB, OL or another defensive secondary player would've been fine too. I just don't see the point of drafting a DT in the third round, I really don't see the point of it.
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Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:04:49 AM
The secondary was a big problem for last year's team, it should have been obvious through just watching the games. Unfortunately, management seems to want to avoid recognizing the problem just as much as you guys do. Either a safety or a corner, I don't care. I would prefer a corner to eventually help push Tillman to safety, which I think is where he should be, but a safety would be fine as well. Just do something there, and soon.

Personally, I would have most liked a Justin King pick there. But a QB, OL or another defensive secondary player would've been fine too. I just don't see the point of drafting a DT in the third round, I really don't see the point of it.

Shhhh...

This is a weak draft for safeties.
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Quote from: air2300 on April 27, 2008, 10:59:53 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:44:02 AM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 27, 2008, 10:28:12 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:25:52 AM
I just think Angelo does not understand what the Draft is about. The Bears have problems on the offensive line, at quarterback and in the defensive secondary. And he just spent the team's fourth pick of the draft on a DEFENSIVE TACKLE. This wasn't a problem area, Angelo... If you wanted to pick one in the last round or two for depth, all right, but in the third freaking round???

Actually after Dvoracek and Harris got hurt (again and again) it was a bit of a black hole. They needed depth there. I think that's what the draft is about.

You draft depth late when you have more than one problem area that needs to be solved. Holes have to be filled through the Draft in this era if the team isn't going to spend money for good free agents, which the Bears are notorious for not spending big free agent money. The Bears still have big problems on the offensive line, quarterback and defensive secondary. I don't think JUST the Williams pick is going to solve the O-Line. I actually think the Bears need to draft another WR as well, but that point is arguable.

Justin King, Booty, Ainge or Scandrick from Boise State would have been much more appropriate picks.

Ainge?  Really?  You must have not seen him play at Tennessee. 

I watched Ainge at Tennessee. I see him as fairly raw, he has potential that would have to be developed. He has a really bad habit of having his team in position to possibly win the game in the fourth quarter and then throwing a soul-crushing interception. Still, worth a third-rounder if you are needing a QB, in my opinion.
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Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:04:49 AM
The secondary was a big problem for last year's team, it should have been obvious through just watching the games.

Part of the reason it was a problem was one of the guys watching the games was Nate Vasher.

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Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:07:05 AM
I watched Ainge at Tennessee. I see him as fairly raw, he has potential that would have to be developed. He has a really bad habit of having his team in position to possibly win the game in the fourth quarter and then throwing a soul-crushing interception. Still, worth a third-rounder if you are needing a QB, in my opinion.

Did you really just write this?

For those of you interested in the actual picks, here's some info from the Trib blog:

QuoteGabriel said the Bears had Bennett rated as the highest target on their board, even higher than some of the receivers picked in the second round Saturday. The Bears view Bennett as capable of coming in and at least competing for playing time.

"I like Earl a lot," said offensive coordinator Ron Turner. "We targeted him early, had a real high grade on him. Watch a lot of tape on him, obviously. He's got great quickness, a really good route runner, very precise route runner, good run after the catch."

Bennett should have the opportunity to contribute immediately. The Bears lost Bernard Berrian to the Vikings and cut Muhsin Muhammad. Although Marty Booker and Brandon Lloyd were signed in the off-season, the Bears still don't have a solid No. 1 receiver.

"He'll get an opportunity, obviously, to come in and compete," Turner said. "He's a very intelligent young man, so he shouldn't have any trouble picking things up. Very competitive, so I know he'll enjoy coming in and competing. We'll just give him a chance to come in and compete with the guys we have currently on our roster."

Turner said Bennett has been compared to Hines Ward, the great Pittsburgh wide receiver. Bennett remained humble in accepting such praise.

QuoteThe first three picks, the Bears could cite character and intangibles as big factors in their decisions. But Arkansas defensive tackle Marcus Harrison? Harrison was arrested Aug. 24 and accused of having an ecstasy pill and marijuana in his vehicle when he was stopped by Fayetteville police. He was charged with one count of possession of a controlled substance. Maybe it was a bad coincidence or a blip on Harrison's personal radar. But it raises questions about his maturity as a professional football player.

Beyond character concerns, a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee during spring practice in 2007 healed but it's not something that instills much confidence about his durability.

You can't like all the picks. This is the first head-scratcher the Bears have made.

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I was fine with the first three picks. They all are good talents that fill positions of need. Harrison just doesn't make sense. In terms of talent, Harrison is not a reach. It just is a matter of the pick not fitting the Bears' needs.
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It's not a draft day without an Angelo trade down!
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Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:14:29 AM
I was fine with the first three picks. They all are good talents that fill positions of need. Harrison just doesn't make sense. In terms of talent, Harrison is not a reach. It just is a matter of the pick not fitting the Bears' needs.

How can you have three DTs on the roster with only two having significant experience as a pro and all three coming off serious injuries and not rate that position as a "need" or a "priority" or a "problem area?"

You just don't make a lick of sense.
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Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:20:37 AM
It's not a draft day without an Angelo trade down!

OH NOEZ!!!! More draft picks!!11!!

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Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:20:37 AM
It's not a draft day without an Angelo trade down!
In the late rounds, more picks equals more chances to hit on/get lucky with some guy.  But you keep bashing Angelo. 

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Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:07:05 AM
Quote from: air2300 on April 27, 2008, 10:59:53 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:44:02 AM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 27, 2008, 10:28:12 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 10:25:52 AM
I just think Angelo does not understand what the Draft is about. The Bears have problems on the offensive line, at quarterback and in the defensive secondary. And he just spent the team's fourth pick of the draft on a DEFENSIVE TACKLE. This wasn't a problem area, Angelo... If you wanted to pick one in the last round or two for depth, all right, but in the third freaking round???

Actually after Dvoracek and Harris got hurt (again and again) it was a bit of a black hole. They needed depth there. I think that's what the draft is about.

You draft depth late when you have more than one problem area that needs to be solved. Holes have to be filled through the Draft in this era if the team isn't going to spend money for good free agents, which the Bears are notorious for not spending big free agent money. The Bears still have big problems on the offensive line, quarterback and defensive secondary. I don't think JUST the Williams pick is going to solve the O-Line. I actually think the Bears need to draft another WR as well, but that point is arguable.

Justin King, Booty, Ainge or Scandrick from Boise State would have been much more appropriate picks.

Ainge?  Really?  You must have not seen him play at Tennessee. 

I watched Ainge at Tennessee. I see him as fairly raw, he has potential that would have to be developed. He has a really bad habit of having his team in position to possibly win the game in the fourth quarter and then throwing a soul-crushing interception. Still, worth a third-rounder if you are needing a QB, in my opinion.


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Quote from: air2300 on April 27, 2008, 11:24:28 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:20:37 AM
It's not a draft day without an Angelo trade down!
In late round, more picks equals more chances to hit on/get lucky with some guy.  But you keep bashing Angelo. 

Well, in his defense, at least it wasn't a first-round trade down. I'm just frustrated with how many problems this team has... When there are so many problems, even trying to fix a decent-sized one like the DT situation can be a problem if the team is ignoring bigger ones...
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Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:32:44 AM
Quote from: air2300 on April 27, 2008, 11:24:28 AM
Quote from: BC on April 27, 2008, 11:20:37 AM
It's not a draft day without an Angelo trade down!
In late round, more picks equals more chances to hit on/get lucky with some guy.  But you keep bashing Angelo. 

Well, in his defense, at least it wasn't a first-round trade down. I'm just frustrated with how many problems this team has... When there are so many problems, even trying to fix a decent-sized one like the DT situation can be a problem if the team is ignoring bigger ones...

I like that you're defending Angelo from...you.
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