Incredibly, unbelievably, the first Carlos Zambrano sploooooooge thread

[Yeti]

What does any of this have to do with Castro winning the batting title?

.013 points is going to be a lot to make up over a month, especially over 4 other guys. And then if you factor in Tulowitzki and Infante, they have a chance to easily pass him, given their relative low number of plate appearances, so that could mean he has to pass up to 6 guys. It'll be tough, but it would be nice if he could do it.

[Internet Apex]

I love Carlos Zambrano. And I'd like all of you to love him too. And tonight when you hit your knees, please ask Gord to love him.

[Oleg]

What does any of this have to do with Castro winning the batting title?

.013 points is going to be a lot to make up over a month, especially over 4 other guys. And then if you factor in Tulowitzki and Infante, they have a chance to easily pass him, given their relative low number of plate appearances, so that could mean he has to pass up to 6 guys. It'll be tough, but it would be nice if he could do it.

What does that have to do with Zambrano being awesome?

[Yeti]

What does any of this have to do with Castro winning the batting title?

.013 points is going to be a lot to make up over a month, especially over 4 other guys. And then if you factor in Tulowitzki and Infante, they have a chance to easily pass him, given their relative low number of plate appearances, so that could mean he has to pass up to 6 guys. It'll be tough, but it would be nice if he could do it.

What does that have to do with Zambrano being awesome?

His season was really efficient last year. His walk rate was 4.15 (per 9), which is just above his career average, so really we should expect a high number of walks. He did get his K-rate up over 8 per 9 innings for the first time since 2006. It was actually a better season than his 2007 season in which he won 18 games and was 5th in the Cy Young voting. His major downfall last year was the shitty team. His RS/IS (Run Support per Inning Started, which only figures innings in which he was actually in there, not the entire game, which can include times he's not in there) was 4.1 per 27 outs, which is by far the lowest in his full-time starting career. If the team had been worth a shit last year, I think his numbers would look pretty nice.

Plus:  Since he has been starting again: 1.84 ERA, .605 Opponent OPS. 3-0. I'd love it if he gets to 10 wins after starting approximately 3.75-4 months for a shitty baseball team. Fuck the naysayers. Also, 3 of the 5 games in this streak were against playoff caliber teams.

Gotta love ya some Z

[BH]

What does any of this have to do with Castro winning the batting title?

.013 points is going to be a lot to make up over a month, especially over 4 other guys. And then if you factor in Tulowitzki and Infante, they have a chance to easily pass him, given their relative low number of plate appearances, so that could mean he has to pass up to 6 guys. It'll be tough, but it would be nice if he could do it.

What does that have to do with Zambrano being awesome?

His season was really efficient last year. His walk rate was 4.15 (per 9), which is just above his career average, so really we should expect a high number of walks. He did get his K-rate up over 8 per 9 innings for the first time since 2006. It was actually a better season than his 2007 season in which he won 18 games and was 5th in the Cy Young voting. His major downfall last year was the shitty team. His RS/IS (Run Support per Inning Started, which only figures innings in which he was actually in there, not the entire game, which can include times he's not in there) was 4.1 per 27 outs, which is by far the lowest in his full-time starting career. If the team had been worth a shit last year, I think his numbers would look pretty nice.

Plus:  Since he has been starting again: 1.84 ERA, .605 Opponent OPS. 3-0. I'd love it if he gets to 10 wins after starting approximately 3.75-4 months for a shitty baseball team. Fuck the naysayers. Also, 3 of the 5 games in this streak were against playoff caliber teams.

Gotta love ya some Z

I hope he pitches well. So his trade value goes up this offseason.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

What does any of this have to do with Castro winning the batting title?

.013 points is going to be a lot to make up over a month, especially over 4 other guys. And then if you factor in Tulowitzki and Infante, they have a chance to easily pass him, given their relative low number of plate appearances, so that could mean he has to pass up to 6 guys. It'll be tough, but it would be nice if he could do it.

What does that have to do with Zambrano being awesome?

His season was really efficient last year. His walk rate was 4.15 (per 9), which is just above his career average, so really we should expect a high number of walks. He did get his K-rate up over 8 per 9 innings for the first time since 2006. It was actually a better season than his 2007 season in which he won 18 games and was 5th in the Cy Young voting. His major downfall last year was the shitty team. His RS/IS (Run Support per Inning Started, which only figures innings in which he was actually in there, not the entire game, which can include times he's not in there) was 4.1 per 27 outs, which is by far the lowest in his full-time starting career. If the team had been worth a shit last year, I think his numbers would look pretty nice.

Plus:  Since he has been starting again: 1.84 ERA, .605 Opponent OPS. 3-0. I'd love it if he gets to 10 wins after starting approximately 3.75-4 months for a shitty baseball team. Fuck the naysayers. Also, 3 of the 5 games in this streak were against playoff caliber teams.

Gotta love ya some Z

I hope he pitches well. So his trade value goes up this offseason.

Great burn.  Carlos Zambrano is really good.

[BH]

What does any of this have to do with Castro winning the batting title?

.013 points is going to be a lot to make up over a month, especially over 4 other guys. And then if you factor in Tulowitzki and Infante, they have a chance to easily pass him, given their relative low number of plate appearances, so that could mean he has to pass up to 6 guys. It'll be tough, but it would be nice if he could do it.

What does that have to do with Zambrano being awesome?

His season was really efficient last year. His walk rate was 4.15 (per 9), which is just above his career average, so really we should expect a high number of walks. He did get his K-rate up over 8 per 9 innings for the first time since 2006. It was actually a better season than his 2007 season in which he won 18 games and was 5th in the Cy Young voting. His major downfall last year was the shitty team. His RS/IS (Run Support per Inning Started, which only figures innings in which he was actually in there, not the entire game, which can include times he's not in there) was 4.1 per 27 outs, which is by far the lowest in his full-time starting career. If the team had been worth a shit last year, I think his numbers would look pretty nice.

Plus:  Since he has been starting again: 1.84 ERA, .605 Opponent OPS. 3-0. I'd love it if he gets to 10 wins after starting approximately 3.75-4 months for a shitty baseball team. Fuck the naysayers. Also, 3 of the 5 games in this streak were against playoff caliber teams.

Gotta love ya some Z

I hope he pitches well. So his trade value goes up this offseason.

Great burn.  Carlos Zambrano is really good.

I won't compromose.

[Internet Apex]

What does any of this have to do with Castro winning the batting title?

.013 points is going to be a lot to make up over a month, especially over 4 other guys. And then if you factor in Tulowitzki and Infante, they have a chance to easily pass him, given their relative low number of plate appearances, so that could mean he has to pass up to 6 guys. It'll be tough, but it would be nice if he could do it.

What does that have to do with Zambrano being awesome?

His season was really efficient last year. His walk rate was 4.15 (per 9), which is just above his career average, so really we should expect a high number of walks. He did get his K-rate up over 8 per 9 innings for the first time since 2006. It was actually a better season than his 2007 season in which he won 18 games and was 5th in the Cy Young voting. His major downfall last year was the shitty team. His RS/IS (Run Support per Inning Started, which only figures innings in which he was actually in there, not the entire game, which can include times he's not in there) was 4.1 per 27 outs, which is by far the lowest in his full-time starting career. If the team had been worth a shit last year, I think his numbers would look pretty nice.

Plus:  Since he has been starting again: 1.84 ERA, .605 Opponent OPS. 3-0. I'd love it if he gets to 10 wins after starting approximately 3.75-4 months for a shitty baseball team. Fuck the naysayers. Also, 3 of the 5 games in this streak were against playoff caliber teams.

Gotta love ya some Z

I hope he pitches well. So his trade value goes up this offseason.

Great burn.  Carlos Zambrano is really good.

I won't compromose.

You should comment on wedding dresses and fashion and shit like that. Maybe sports just isn't for you.

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[CT III]

What does any of this have to do with Castro winning the batting title?

.013 points is going to be a lot to make up over a month, especially over 4 other guys. And then if you factor in Tulowitzki and Infante, they have a chance to easily pass him, given their relative low number of plate appearances, so that could mean he has to pass up to 6 guys. It'll be tough, but it would be nice if he could do it.

What does that have to do with Zambrano being awesome?

His season was really efficient last year. His walk rate was 4.15 (per 9), which is just above his career average, so really we should expect a high number of walks. He did get his K-rate up over 8 per 9 innings for the first time since 2006. It was actually a better season than his 2007 season in which he won 18 games and was 5th in the Cy Young voting. His major downfall last year was the shitty team. His RS/IS (Run Support per Inning Started, which only figures innings in which he was actually in there, not the entire game, which can include times he's not in there) was 4.1 per 27 outs, which is by far the lowest in his full-time starting career. If the team had been worth a shit last year, I think his numbers would look pretty nice.

Plus:  Since he has been starting again: 1.84 ERA, .605 Opponent OPS. 3-0. I'd love it if he gets to 10 wins after starting approximately 3.75-4 months for a shitty baseball team. Fuck the naysayers. Also, 3 of the 5 games in this streak were against playoff caliber teams.

Gotta love ya some Z

I hope he pitches well. So his trade value goes up this offseason.

Great burn.  Carlos Zambrano is really good.

I won't compromose.

You should comment on wedding dresses and fashion and shit like that. Maybe sports just isn't for you.

Yeah, why would you want to get rid of the guy who missed half the season because he was forced to take anger management classes?

If you can't depend on a guy like that, who can you depend on?

[Internet Apex]

What does any of this have to do with Castro winning the batting title?

.013 points is going to be a lot to make up over a month, especially over 4 other guys. And then if you factor in Tulowitzki and Infante, they have a chance to easily pass him, given their relative low number of plate appearances, so that could mean he has to pass up to 6 guys. It'll be tough, but it would be nice if he could do it.

What does that have to do with Zambrano being awesome?

His season was really efficient last year. His walk rate was 4.15 (per 9), which is just above his career average, so really we should expect a high number of walks. He did get his K-rate up over 8 per 9 innings for the first time since 2006. It was actually a better season than his 2007 season in which he won 18 games and was 5th in the Cy Young voting. His major downfall last year was the shitty team. His RS/IS (Run Support per Inning Started, which only figures innings in which he was actually in there, not the entire game, which can include times he's not in there) was 4.1 per 27 outs, which is by far the lowest in his full-time starting career. If the team had been worth a shit last year, I think his numbers would look pretty nice.

Plus:  Since he has been starting again: 1.84 ERA, .605 Opponent OPS. 3-0. I'd love it if he gets to 10 wins after starting approximately 3.75-4 months for a shitty baseball team. Fuck the naysayers. Also, 3 of the 5 games in this streak were against playoff caliber teams.

Gotta love ya some Z

I hope he pitches well. So his trade value goes up this offseason.

Great burn.  Carlos Zambrano is really good.

I won't compromose.

You should comment on wedding dresses and fashion and shit like that. Maybe sports just isn't for you.

Yeah, why would you want to get rid of the guy who missed half the season because he was forced to take anger management classes?

If you can't depend on a guy like that, who can you depend on?

Because he's good. And you're not. And if you can't get anywhere near equal value for him, you're better off letting him pitch on your team. By the way, your team is really bad.

[BH]

What does any of this have to do with Castro winning the batting title?

.013 points is going to be a lot to make up over a month, especially over 4 other guys. And then if you factor in Tulowitzki and Infante, they have a chance to easily pass him, given their relative low number of plate appearances, so that could mean he has to pass up to 6 guys. It'll be tough, but it would be nice if he could do it.

What does that have to do with Zambrano being awesome?

His season was really efficient last year. His walk rate was 4.15 (per 9), which is just above his career average, so really we should expect a high number of walks. He did get his K-rate up over 8 per 9 innings for the first time since 2006. It was actually a better season than his 2007 season in which he won 18 games and was 5th in the Cy Young voting. His major downfall last year was the shitty team. His RS/IS (Run Support per Inning Started, which only figures innings in which he was actually in there, not the entire game, which can include times he's not in there) was 4.1 per 27 outs, which is by far the lowest in his full-time starting career. If the team had been worth a shit last year, I think his numbers would look pretty nice.

Plus:  Since he has been starting again: 1.84 ERA, .605 Opponent OPS. 3-0. I'd love it if he gets to 10 wins after starting approximately 3.75-4 months for a shitty baseball team. Fuck the naysayers. Also, 3 of the 5 games in this streak were against playoff caliber teams.

Gotta love ya some Z

I hope he pitches well. So his trade value goes up this offseason.

Great burn.  Carlos Zambrano is really good.

I won't compromose.

You should comment on wedding dresses and fashion and shit like that. Maybe sports just isn't for you.

I didn't say I didn't like zambrano. I just don't see this team doing much any time soon, so why not trade him while he's pitching better and get something out of him? You probably think we're gonna win the central in 2011. That's bonkers Apex, even for you.  

[Internet Apex]

What does any of this have to do with Castro winning the batting title?

.013 points is going to be a lot to make up over a month, especially over 4 other guys. And then if you factor in Tulowitzki and Infante, they have a chance to easily pass him, given their relative low number of plate appearances, so that could mean he has to pass up to 6 guys. It'll be tough, but it would be nice if he could do it.

What does that have to do with Zambrano being awesome?

His season was really efficient last year. His walk rate was 4.15 (per 9), which is just above his career average, so really we should expect a high number of walks. He did get his K-rate up over 8 per 9 innings for the first time since 2006. It was actually a better season than his 2007 season in which he won 18 games and was 5th in the Cy Young voting. His major downfall last year was the shitty team. His RS/IS (Run Support per Inning Started, which only figures innings in which he was actually in there, not the entire game, which can include times he's not in there) was 4.1 per 27 outs, which is by far the lowest in his full-time starting career. If the team had been worth a shit last year, I think his numbers would look pretty nice.

Plus:  Since he has been starting again: 1.84 ERA, .605 Opponent OPS. 3-0. I'd love it if he gets to 10 wins after starting approximately 3.75-4 months for a shitty baseball team. Fuck the naysayers. Also, 3 of the 5 games in this streak were against playoff caliber teams.

Gotta love ya some Z

I hope he pitches well. So his trade value goes up this offseason.

Great burn.  Carlos Zambrano is really good.

I won't compromose.

You should comment on wedding dresses and fashion and shit like that. Maybe sports just isn't for you.

I didn't say I didn't like zambrano. I just don't see this team doing much any time soon, so why not trade him while he's pitching better and get something out of him? You probably think we're gonna win the central in 2011. That's bonkers Apex, even for you.  

I think "we" would have a better chance of winning the Central with Zambrano on "our" team than with the collection of dickweeds "you" could get for Zambrano and his contract regardless of the numbers he puts up in the next four weeks.

[Internet Apex]

If they are able to deal that contract for young(er), cheap(er) talent that makes the team better and frees budget to improve it some more, I'd be conflicted but I'd get over it. However, if they simply cave to the meatheads and deal him for other bad contracts that do nothing of the sort, well fuck all. And what makes anybody believe they can deal that contract for anything other than old, expensive flotsam? Who's really fucking bonkers here - besides Z?

[BH]

If they are able to deal that contract for young(er), cheap(er) talent that makes the team better and frees budget to improve it some more, I'd be conflicted but I'd get over it. However, if they simply cave to the meatheads and deal him for other bad contracts that do nothing of the sort, well fuck all. And what makes anybody believe they can deal that contract for anything other than old, expensive flotsam? Who's really fucking bonkers here - besides Z?

You're probably right. Once they make the playoffs next year, they are gonna need their ace to strike fear into the hearts of the other team. Win or die tryin' type stuff. Garbanzo beanz can't fill that role. Plus, we should honor his contract, it shows that this organization is loyal and that will only help attract big time free agents, like Adam Dunn.

[Internet Apex]

If they are able to deal that contract for young(er), cheap(er) talent that makes the team better and frees budget to improve it some more, I'd be conflicted but I'd get over it. However, if they simply cave to the meatheads and deal him for other bad contracts that do nothing of the sort, well fuck all. And what makes anybody believe they can deal that contract for anything other than old, expensive flotsam? Who's really fucking bonkers here - besides Z?

You're probably right.

(wins thread)