The Atheist Communist Caliphate Made Flesh, Spread the Clusterfuck Around Thread

[thehawk]

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/2009/08/twelve-carry-guns----including-assault-rifle----outside-obama-event.php

About 12 people were carrying guns, including at least one semi-automatic assault rifle, outside a building where President Obama was speaking today.

No one was arrested outside the VFW National Convention in Phoenix, according to the Associated Press, where hundreds of people demonstrated both for and against health care reform. There are no reports that the 12 were part of an organized group.

The man spotted carrying the assault rifle and a pistol, who gave his name only as "Chris", was asked why he was armed. "Because I can do it," he said. "In Arizona, I still have some freedoms." You can watch the video from ArizonaCentral.com (go to about 1:30). He's being interviewed by a man who's also wearing a handgun.

Two police officers kept close by. Carrying guns, including the AR-15 assault rifle, is legal under Arizona law.

"If we need to intervene, we will intervene at that time," said Detective J. Oliver.

If this trend continues, eventually, someone's gonna cross a line.

Somewhere, an otherwise law-abiding citizen, carrying a gun at a Presidential event ("because I can"), will get too close for Secret Service comfort and be temporarily relieved of their firearm and/or freedom.

Further proof, of course, that Obama wants to take our guns.

The contradictions heightened.

I'm guessing someone will take a pop at Obama.

The challenge will be for guys like Limbaugh and Beck to blame the Libruls instead of their own rhetoric aimed at the low-hanging fruit.

Nah, the blame would fall squarely on the guy who would take a pop at Obama.

Do you think that would be the case when one of these guys flinches or the shoulder strap on their AR-15 slips and a sniper takes them out?

Absolutely.

Wish you were right Teej, but the words "Ruby Ridge" keep ringing in the back of my head.

[MAD]

TJ's in a Conservative Fantasy World if he thinks that the scenario Hawk lays out would not result in a storm of vitriol from the right decrying Obama's "jack-booted thugs".

[Quality Start Machine]

TJ's in a Conservative Fantasy World if he thinks that the scenario Hawk lays out would not result in a storm of vitriol from the right decrying Obama's "jack-booted thugs".

Along with sarcastic remarks about "Hope", "Change" and "Transparency".

These fucktards with the guns have to understand, this is a country where we have the opportunity for regime change every 4 years. The fact that we can change leaders without anyone dying is what makes us better than other countries.

You didn't like November's election? Work harder in 2012.

It's not my fault that the McCain 2000 was the Beatles and the McCain 2008 was Wings.

[Wheezer]

About 12 people were carrying guns, including at least one semi-automatic assault rifle, outside a building where President Obama was speaking today.

A contradiction in terms, in AP style.

[flannj]

About 12 people were carrying guns, including at least one semi-automatic assault rifle, outside a building where President Obama was speaking today.

A contradiction in tertionms, in AP style.

Not so much a contradiction in terms as a redundancy.

EDIT: I should learn to read, you are correct Wheezer.
Forget I posted anything here.

[Wheezer]

About 12 people were carrying guns, including at least one semi-automatic assault rifle, outside a building where President Obama was speaking today.

A contradiction in tertionms, in AP style.

Not so much a contradiction in terms as a redundancy.

No, the point is one of function over form--an "assault weapon" has to have select-fire.

[flannj]

About 12 people were carrying guns, including at least one semi-automatic assault rifle, outside a building where President Obama was speaking today.

A contradiction in terms, in AP style.

Not so much a contradiction in terms as a redundancy.

No, the point is one of function over form--an "assault weapon" has to have select-fire.

No, select-fire is the is the ability to fire in semi-automatic mode as well as some form of fully-automatic mode.
"Assault rifles" have this capability "assault weapons" do not.

But I agree with your original post (I'm just glad I posted my retraction before your reply).

[*In a Nutsack]

TJ's in a Conservative Fantasy World if he thinks that the scenario Hawk lays out would not result in a storm of vitriol from the right decrying Obama's "jack-booted thugs".

Along with sarcastic remarks about "Hope", "Change" and "Transparency".

These fucktards with the guns have to understand, this is a country where we have the opportunity for regime change every 4 years. The fact that we can change leaders without anyone dying is what makes us better than other countries.

You didn't like November's election? Work harder in 2012.

It's not my fault that the McCain 2000 was the Beatles and the McCain 2008 was Wings.

I've read two Fork posts today, and I agree with both of them.

[Quality Start Machine]

TJ's in a Conservative Fantasy World if he thinks that the scenario Hawk lays out would not result in a storm of vitriol from the right decrying Obama's "jack-booted thugs".

Along with sarcastic remarks about "Hope", "Change" and "Transparency".

These fucktards with the guns have to understand, this is a country where we have the opportunity for regime change every 4 years. The fact that we can change leaders without anyone dying is what makes us better than other countries.

You didn't like November's election? Work harder in 2012.

It's not my fault that the McCain 2000 was the Beatles and the McCain 2008 was Wings.

I've read two Fork posts today, and I agree with both of them.

So the more on-the-rag I am, the better I seem to guys like you?

[*In a Nutsack]

TJ's in a Conservative Fantasy World if he thinks that the scenario Hawk lays out would not result in a storm of vitriol from the right decrying Obama's "jack-booted thugs".

Along with sarcastic remarks about "Hope", "Change" and "Transparency".

These fucktards with the guns have to understand, this is a country where we have the opportunity for regime change every 4 years. The fact that we can change leaders without anyone dying is what makes us better than other countries.

You didn't like November's election? Work harder in 2012.

It's not my fault that the McCain 2000 was the Beatles and the McCain 2008 was Wings.

I've read two Fork posts today, and I agree with both of them.

So the more on-the-rag I am, the better I seem to guys like you?

If it ain't broke, don't fix it ForkNasty.  As you guys were...

[Kermit, B.]

TJ's in a Conservative Fantasy World if he thinks that the scenario Hawk lays out would not result in a storm of vitriol from the right decrying Obama's "jack-booted thugs".

Along with sarcastic remarks about "Hope", "Change" and "Transparency".

These fucktards with the guns have to understand, this is a country where we have the opportunity for regime change every 4 years. The fact that we can change leaders without anyone dying is what makes us better than other countries.

You didn't like November's election? Work harder in 2012.

It's not my fault that the McCain 2000 was the Beatles and the McCain 2008 was Wings.

I've read two Fork posts today, and I agree with both of them.

So the more on-the-rag I am, the better I seem to guys like you?

If it means you're only posting 3-5 days a month, then yes.

[Quality Start Machine]

TJ's in a Conservative Fantasy World if he thinks that the scenario Hawk lays out would not result in a storm of vitriol from the right decrying Obama's "jack-booted thugs".

Along with sarcastic remarks about "Hope", "Change" and "Transparency".

These fucktards with the guns have to understand, this is a country where we have the opportunity for regime change every 4 years. The fact that we can change leaders without anyone dying is what makes us better than other countries.

You didn't like November's election? Work harder in 2012.

It's not my fault that the McCain 2000 was the Beatles and the McCain 2008 was Wings.

I've read two Fork posts today, and I agree with both of them.

So the more on-the-rag I am, the better I seem to guys like you?

If it means you're only posting 3-5 days a month, then yes.

My regular posting keeps everyone else's cycles in sync.

[TDubbs]

TJ's in a Conservative Fantasy World if he thinks that the scenario Hawk lays out would not result in a storm of vitriol from the right decrying Obama's "jack-booted thugs".

Along with sarcastic remarks about "Hope", "Change" and "Transparency".

These fucktards with the guns have to understand, this is a country where we have the opportunity for regime change every 4 years. The fact that we can change leaders without anyone dying is what makes us better than other countries.

You didn't like November's election? Work harder in 2012.

It's not my fault that the McCain 2000 was the Beatles and the McCain 2008 was Wings.

I've read two Fork posts today, and I agree with both of them.

So the more on-the-rag I am, the better I seem to guys like you?

If it means you're only posting 3-5 days a month, then yes.

That's only 631 posts a month, though.  How would he survive?

[Dr. Nguyen Van Falk]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/18/health/policy/18plan.html

The idea of a health cooperative has been pushed by Senator Kent Conrad, Democrat of North Dakota. It has drawn support from centrist Democrats and has intrigued some Republicans.

The government would offer start-up money, perhaps $6 billion, in loans and grants to help doctors, hospitals, businesses and other groups form nonprofit cooperative networks to provide health care and coverage.

The co-ops could be formed at the national, state or local level. Proponents say that a health co-op might need 25,000 members to be financially viable, and at least 500,000 members to negotiate effectively with health care providers.

Health care cooperatives could inject competition in some insurance markets around the country, economists and health policy experts said. But they would need time to buy sophisticated information technology and to negotiate contracts with doctors, hospitals and other health care providers.

Mr. Conrad's own state demonstrates the uncertainties surrounding cooperatives. Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Dakota dominates the state's private insurance market, collecting nearly 90 percent of premiums. As a nonprofit owned by its members, the company would hope to qualify as a co-op under federal legislation, said Paul von Ebers, its incoming president and chief executive.

So, Kent Conrad's plan to solve the health care crisis and foster competition could wind up shelling out government cash to the likes of regional near-monopoly behemoths like BCBS?

Brilliant.

And it's okay, because it's totally not socialism.

A decent read on the topic: http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_treatment/archive/2009/06/14/hacker.aspx

[Quality Start Machine]

TJ's in a Conservative Fantasy World if he thinks that the scenario Hawk lays out would not result in a storm of vitriol from the right decrying Obama's "jack-booted thugs".

Along with sarcastic remarks about "Hope", "Change" and "Transparency".

These fucktards with the guns have to understand, this is a country where we have the opportunity for regime change every 4 years. The fact that we can change leaders without anyone dying is what makes us better than other countries.

You didn't like November's election? Work harder in 2012.

It's not my fault that the McCain 2000 was the Beatles and the McCain 2008 was Wings.

I've read two Fork posts today, and I agree with both of them.

So the more on-the-rag I am, the better I seem to guys like you?

If it means you're only posting 3-5 days a month, then yes.

That's only 631 posts a month, though.  How would he survive?

Same way I do now, feeding off the menstrual blood of little tools who have been forced into a life of celibacy by their own inadequacies.