Who's a Hall of Famer?

[Slaky]

I don't have a problem with letting the PED guys into the hall, but the meatball in me doesn't want to see them get to enjoy their enshrinement day or make a speech. Can't they let them in without the pomp and circumstance?

Can't you just not watch?

I don't watch every single year.

[J. Walter Weatherman]

I don't have a problem with letting the PED guys into the hall, but the meatball in me doesn't want to see them get to enjoy their enshrinement day or make a speech. Can't they let them in without the pomp and circumstance?

Intrepid Reader: Ron Santo

There are ways...

[flannj]

I don't have a problem with letting the PED guys into the hall, but the meatball in me doesn't want to see them get to enjoy their enshrinement day or make a speech. Can't they let them in without the pomp and circumstance?

Can't you just not watch?

I don't watch every single year.

I watched the replays of the Barry Rozner Ryne Sandberg speech.
I'll probably watch the replays of the Maddux speech wishing he would give a big "fuck you" to Larry Himes.

[Internet Apex]

I don't have a problem with letting the PED guys into the hall, but the meatball in me doesn't want to see them get to enjoy their enshrinement day or make a speech. Can't they let them in without the pomp and circumstance?

Can't you just not watch?

I don't watch every single year.

I watched the replays of the Barry Rozner Ryne Sandberg speech.
I'll probably watch the replays of the Maddux speech wishing he would give a big "fuck you" to Larry Himes.

That's not the time or the place unless you're a total cockbag like Michael Jordan.

[flannj]

I don't have a problem with letting the PED guys into the hall, but the meatball in me doesn't want to see them get to enjoy their enshrinement day or make a speech. Can't they let them in without the pomp and circumstance?

Can't you just not watch?

I don't watch every single year.

I watched the replays of the Barry Rozner Ryne Sandberg speech.
I'll probably watch the replays of the Maddux speech wishing he would give a big "fuck you" to Larry Himes.

That's not the time or the place unless you're a total cockbag like Michael Jordan.

I know it's not the right venue but I still wish for it.
I'm kind of a dick that way.

[Tony]

I don't have a problem with letting the PED guys into the hall, but the meatball in me doesn't want to see them get to enjoy their enshrinement day or make a speech. Can't they let them in without the pomp and circumstance?

Can't you just not watch?

I never watch it, but I don't want anyone else to watch either.

[Quality Start Machine]

Paul O'Neill did get hurt a lot and seemed to have a lot of simmering anger, but he also didn't change 3 shirt sizes in a 4 year period.

don't forget that roids or HGH aren't just used to build ludicrous amounts of muscle. Was Andy Pettitte some kind of Ned Flanders when he removed the pinstriped top? Doubt it.

These guys, hell probably every team had guys, who would use something to get healthy quickly and stay off the DL. You'd never know it.

Which is part of the reason why I don't give a fuck about PEDs.

I actually think the juicers should be let in, for all I give a fuck about the HOF.

Fact is, without Sosa and McGwire, baseball wouldn't have had as quick a rebound following the work stoppage in 94.

Not to mention, it's a little hard to say that because these guys cheated they shouldn't be allowed into the same hallowed hall as Whitey Ford, Don Sutton or Gaylord Perry.

No one will ever convince me that Barry Bonds isn't one of the best 2-3 players of all time.

These four years are just unfathomable to me, PEDs or not.

Whenever I talk about the beauty of the on-base percentage stat with friends, I take note of the practical import of the stat.  I've used Bonds' 2004 season as an example to explain the stat: by the time he stepped to the plate, he was more than 60% of the way toward being on first base already.

That is absolutely staggering.

If he was 60% of the way to first base, he would have been tagged out more often.

[Saul Goodman]

Pete Rose (not a Hall of Famer) with a pretty sick burn on Robinson Cano.

"Jay Z got him a big raise, but he got him an extra 30-day vacation -- and it's called October," Rose said.

Of course, when the Mariners win three World Series before Epstink does, the joke will be on Rose.  And on us.  :(

[Quality Start Machine]

Pete Rose (not a Hall of Famer) with a pretty sick burn on Robinson Cano.

"Jay Z got him a big raise, but he got him an extra 30-day vacation -- and it's called October," Rose said.

Of course, when the Mariners win three World Series before Epstink does, the joke will be on Rose.  And on us.  :(

Think Rose knows the odds of that happening?

[Bort]

Pete Rose (not a Hall of Famer) with a pretty sick burn on Robinson Cano.

"Jay Z got him a big raise, but he got him an extra 30-day vacation -- and it's called October," Rose said.

Of course, when the Mariners win three World Series before Epstink does, the joke will be on Rose.  And on us.  :(

Think Rose knows the odds of that happening?

Looks like I have to go to the I Admit It thread...

[Brownie]

Pete Rose (not a Hall of Famer) with a pretty sick burn on Robinson Cano.

"Jay Z got him a big raise, but he got him an extra 30-day vacation -- and it's called October," Rose said.

Of course, when the Mariners win three World Series before Epstink does, the joke will be on Rose.  And on us.  :(

Postseasons Pete Rose played in: 8 of 24 seasons (active from 1963-1986... note that one of his postseason appearances was a split-season strike series)
Postseasons Kerry Wood played in: 5 of 13 seasons (active from 1998-2012; on DL in 1999)
Posteseasons A-Rod played in as a Mariner: 3 of 6 seasons (1994-2000; 1994 not counting as a real season)
Postseasons A-Rod played in as a Yankee: 8 out of 10 seasons (2004-2013)

OK, maybe Pete has a point. Forget this post.

[CT III]

Greg Maddux will certainly be a Hall of Famer, but it won't be unanimous, because PEDs or something.

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/how-mlbcom-writers-voted-in-hall-of-fame-balloting?ymd=20140106&content_id=66341930&vkey=news_mlb

[Brownie]

Greg Maddux will certainly be a Hall of Famer, but it won't be unanimous, because PEDs or something.

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/how-mlbcom-writers-voted-in-hall-of-fame-balloting?ymd=20140106&content_id=66341930&vkey=news_mlb

Did he know that Jack Morris faced guys like Willie Wilson, Lonnie Smith, Alan Wiggins, and others with more cocaine up their nose than could be found in Colombia.

[CT III]

Greg Maddux will certainly be a Hall of Famer, but it won't be unanimous, because PEDs or something.

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/how-mlbcom-writers-voted-in-hall-of-fame-balloting?ymd=20140106&content_id=66341930&vkey=news_mlb

Did he know that Jack Morris faced guys like Willie Wilson, Lonnie Smith, Alan Wiggins, and others with more cocaine up their nose than could be found in Colombia.

I don't know, but I was surprised to learn that there was no PED use in MLB prior to 1995.

[Yeti]

Greg Maddux will certainly be a Hall of Famer, but it won't be unanimous, because PEDs or something.

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/how-mlbcom-writers-voted-in-hall-of-fame-balloting?ymd=20140106&content_id=66341930&vkey=news_mlb

Did he know that Jack Morris faced guys like Willie Wilson, Lonnie Smith, Alan Wiggins, and others with more cocaine up their nose than could be found in Colombia.

I don't know, but I was surprised to learn that there was no PED use in MLB prior to 1995.

Well, at least we have a cut-off now.