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The latest Hall of Fame ballot is out. You can vote for up to 10. Who do you vote for?

Harold Baines
Jay Bell
Bert Blyleven
David Cone
Andre Dawson
Ron Gant
Mark Grace
Rickey Henderson
Tommy John
Don Mattingly
Mark McGwire
Jack Morris
Dale Murphy
Jesse Orosco
Dave Parker
Dan Plesac
Tim Raines
Jim Rice
Lee Smith
Alan Trammell
Greg Vaughn
Mo Vaughn
Matt Williams

Voting closed: December 11, 2008, 03:01:23 PM

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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #285 on: January 07, 2014, 11:59:48 AM »
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Greg Maddux will certainly be a Hall of Famer, but it won't be unanimous, because PEDs or something.

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/how-mlbcom-writers-voted-in-hall-of-fame-balloting?ymd=20140106&content_id=66341930&vkey=news_mlb

Did he know that Jack Morris faced guys like Willie Wilson, Lonnie Smith, Alan Wiggins, and others with more cocaine up their nose than could be found in Colombia.

I don't know, but I was surprised to learn that there was no PED use in MLB prior to 1995.

Well, at least we have a cut-off now.

I always thought the Steroid Era begain in 1988, Canseco's 40/40 year.
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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #286 on: January 07, 2014, 12:27:48 PM »
Quote from: Fork on January 07, 2014, 11:59:48 AM
Quote from: Yeti on January 07, 2014, 11:29:02 AM
Quote from: CT III on January 07, 2014, 11:05:49 AM
Quote from: Brownie on January 07, 2014, 10:51:41 AM
Quote from: CT III on January 07, 2014, 10:42:00 AM
Greg Maddux will certainly be a Hall of Famer, but it won't be unanimous, because PEDs or something.

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/how-mlbcom-writers-voted-in-hall-of-fame-balloting?ymd=20140106&content_id=66341930&vkey=news_mlb

Did he know that Jack Morris faced guys like Willie Wilson, Lonnie Smith, Alan Wiggins, and others with more cocaine up their nose than could be found in Colombia.

I don't know, but I was surprised to learn that there was no PED use in MLB prior to 1995.

Well, at least we have a cut-off now.

I always thought the Steroid Era begain in 1988, Canseco's 40/40 year.

The NFL began testing for steroids in 1987. Do we define STEROID ERA!!! as the point that guys started using it or the point that it became widespread?

Either way, you're just raking leaves on a windy day.
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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #287 on: January 07, 2014, 01:01:56 PM »
Quote from: InternetApex on January 07, 2014, 12:27:48 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 07, 2014, 11:59:48 AM
Quote from: Yeti on January 07, 2014, 11:29:02 AM
Quote from: CT III on January 07, 2014, 11:05:49 AM
Quote from: Brownie on January 07, 2014, 10:51:41 AM
Quote from: CT III on January 07, 2014, 10:42:00 AM
Greg Maddux will certainly be a Hall of Famer, but it won't be unanimous, because PEDs or something.

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/how-mlbcom-writers-voted-in-hall-of-fame-balloting?ymd=20140106&content_id=66341930&vkey=news_mlb

Did he know that Jack Morris faced guys like Willie Wilson, Lonnie Smith, Alan Wiggins, and others with more cocaine up their nose than could be found in Colombia.

I don't know, but I was surprised to learn that there was no PED use in MLB prior to 1995.

Well, at least we have a cut-off now.

I always thought the Steroid Era begain in 1988, Canseco's 40/40 year.

The NFL began testing for steroids in 1987. Do we define STEROID ERA!!! as the point that guys started using it or the point that it became widespread?

Either way, you're just raking leaves on a windy day.

Not voting for guys based on their ethical purity seems a little silly, considering how many guys are in there because they doctored baseballs.
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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #288 on: January 07, 2014, 01:13:36 PM »
You're making the mistake of looking at Greg Maddux's HOF candidacy in rational, reasonable terms.  There are many, many arseholes out there who don't give a flying fuck about your rationality and reason, and some of them are HOF voters.  Yes, Maddux should be unanimous.  Get over it.  When it all comes down to it, we're talking about a multi-millionaire getting a tiny bit of extra recognition, on top of the almost inconceivable amount of recognition he's already received.  Who gives a shit?
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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #289 on: January 07, 2014, 01:19:48 PM »
Quote from: Tonker on January 07, 2014, 01:13:36 PM
You're making the mistake of looking at Greg Maddux's HOF candidacy in rational, reasonable terms.  There are many, many arseholes out there who don't give a flying fuck about your rationality and reason, and some of them are HOF voters.  Yes, Maddux should be unanimous.  Get over it.  When it all comes down to it, we're talking about a multi-millionaire getting a tiny bit of extra recognition, on top of the almost inconceivable amount of recognition he's already received.  Who gives a shit?

Not to mention, it's a lot easier for a sportswriter to get noticed by being one of the handful who don't vote for a guy who should be a slam dunk than to be one of the hundreds who votes for him.

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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #290 on: January 07, 2014, 01:23:24 PM »
Quote from: Tonker on January 07, 2014, 01:13:36 PM
You're making the mistake of looking at Greg Maddux's HOF candidacy in rational, reasonable terms.  There are many, many arseholes out there who don't give a flying fuck about your rationality and reason, and some of them are HOF voters.  Yes, Maddux should be unanimous.  Get over it.  When it all comes down to it, we're talking about a multi-millionaire getting a tiny bit of extra recognition, on top of the almost inconceivable amount of recognition he's already received.  Who gives a shit?

Well what if I DON'T get over it?  What are you gonna do then, limey?

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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #291 on: January 07, 2014, 02:06:14 PM »
Quote from: CT III on January 07, 2014, 01:23:24 PM
Quote from: Tonker on January 07, 2014, 01:13:36 PM
You're making the mistake of looking at Greg Maddux's HOF candidacy in rational, reasonable terms.  There are many, many arseholes out there who don't give a flying fuck about your rationality and reason, and some of them are HOF voters.  Yes, Maddux should be unanimous.  Get over it.  When it all comes down to it, we're talking about a multi-millionaire getting a tiny bit of extra recognition, on top of the almost inconceivable amount of recognition he's already received.  Who gives a shit?

Well what if I DON'T get over it?  What are you gonna do then, limey?

I'm going to fucking MAKE you.  Yeah, you heard me.
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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #292 on: January 08, 2014, 01:33:14 PM »
97.2%

14 Idiots.
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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #293 on: January 09, 2014, 07:57:01 AM »
Quote from: flannj on January 08, 2014, 01:33:14 PM
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14 Idiots.

Anyone who didn't vote for him should not only lose their vote, but be summarily executed.
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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #295 on: January 09, 2014, 01:34:59 PM »
You two wanna go stick your wangs in a hornet's nest, it's a free country.  But how come I always gotta get sloppy seconds, huh?

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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #296 on: January 09, 2014, 01:52:27 PM »
I'm tired of reading about Greg Maddux.
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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #297 on: January 09, 2014, 02:14:21 PM »

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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #298 on: January 09, 2014, 02:29:23 PM »
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Quote from: flannj on January 08, 2014, 01:33:14 PM
97.2%

14 Idiots.

Anyone who didn't vote for him should not only lose their vote, but be summarily executed.

Those 14 idiots wouldn't have voted for Christy Fucking Mathewson, let alone Greg Maddux.
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Re: Who's a Hall of Famer?
« Reply #299 on: January 09, 2014, 03:08:42 PM »
Quote from: InternetApex on January 09, 2014, 01:52:27 PM
I'm tired of reading about Greg Maddux.

Did you hear Larry Himes on the Score yesterday? He said he probably should have asked the Trib bigwigs for a little more cash to sign Maddux. Gee... you think so, Larrry?