Who's a Hall of Famer?

[InternetApex]

I'm tired of reading about Greg Maddux.

Did you hear Larry Himes on the Score yesterday? He said he probably should have asked the Trib bigwigs for a little more cash to sign Maddux. Gee... you think so, Larrry?

I didn't hear him. Fuck that douchecannon in his entire face.

[ChuckD]

I thought this guy's take was interesting. http://nbcbayarea.csnbayarea.com/giants/baggarly-explains-how-he-almost-left-maddux-hof-ballot

Because of the refusal of the sanctimonious guys to support any "PED Era" players, there's a logjam forming where there are >10 deserving candidates but non-shithead voters can only cast their support for 10. That's only going to get worse in the next few years. I guess I can kind of see the "pissing in the wind" line of reasoning behind supporting less popular (but still deserving) players in lieu of the shoe-ins.

[Quality Start Machine]

I'm tired of reading about Greg Maddux.

Did you hear Larry Himes on the Score yesterday? He said he probably should have asked the Trib bigwigs for a little more cash to sign Maddux. Gee... you think so, Larrry?

What difference would it have made? He was patting himself on the back for getting 3 pitchers for the price of one at the time.

[ChuckD]

I'm tired of reading about Greg Maddux.

Did you hear Larry Himes on the Score yesterday? He said he probably should have asked the Trib bigwigs for a little more cash to sign Maddux. Gee... you think so, Larrry?

What difference would it have made? He was patting himself on the back for getting 3 pitchers for the price of one at the time.

That's a +2.

[J. Walter Weatherman]

I'm tired of reading about Greg Maddux.

Okay. How about this?

[InternetApex]

I'm tired of reading about Greg Maddux.

Okay. How about this?

The fucking worst.

[Tonker]

I thought this guy's take was interesting. http://nbcbayarea.csnbayarea.com/giants/baggarly-explains-how-he-almost-left-maddux-hof-ballot

Because of the refusal of the sanctimonious guys to support any "PED Era" players, there's a logjam forming where there are >10 deserving candidates but non-shithead voters can only cast their support for 10. That's only going to get worse in the next few years. I guess I can kind of see the "pissing in the wind" line of reasoning behind supporting less popular (but still deserving) players in lieu of the shoe-ins.

Apart from the bit where he was talking about voting for Larry Walker or Mike Mussina, that was a very well thought-out and interesting article.

[InternetApex]

I thought this guy's take was interesting. http://nbcbayarea.csnbayarea.com/giants/baggarly-explains-how-he-almost-left-maddux-hof-ballot

Because of the refusal of the sanctimonious guys to support any "PED Era" players, there's a logjam forming where there are >10 deserving candidates but non-shithead voters can only cast their support for 10. That's only going to get worse in the next few years. I guess I can kind of see the "pissing in the wind" line of reasoning behind supporting less popular (but still deserving) players in lieu of the shoe-ins.

Apart from the bit where he was talking about voting for Larry Walker or Mike Mussina, that was a very well thought-out and interesting article.

Walker's not a terrible pick. He's 85th all-time in WAR and won 8 Gold Gloves. He led the league in batting three times and OPS twice. Was he juicing AND playing his home games in Colorado? Probably. But it's not like he was some big, slow, DH. If I were a GM in the same era, how would I not rather have Walker than Frank Thomas?

Injuries did plague Walker. I think he's underrated though. If he played in a major market people would have appreciated how great he was. Playing rightfield in Colorado is no joke and he was the dick at it. 

[Slaky]

I thought this guy's take was interesting. http://nbcbayarea.csnbayarea.com/giants/baggarly-explains-how-he-almost-left-maddux-hof-ballot

Because of the refusal of the sanctimonious guys to support any "PED Era" players, there's a logjam forming where there are >10 deserving candidates but non-shithead voters can only cast their support for 10. That's only going to get worse in the next few years. I guess I can kind of see the "pissing in the wind" line of reasoning behind supporting less popular (but still deserving) players in lieu of the shoe-ins.

Apart from the bit where he was talking about voting for Larry Walker or Mike Mussina, that was a very well thought-out and interesting article.

Walker's not a terrible pick. He's 85th all-time in WAR and won 8 Gold Gloves. He led the league in batting three times and OPS twice. Was he juicing AND playing his home games in Colorado? Probably. But it's not like he was some big, slow, DH. If I were a GM in the same era, how would I not rather have Walker than Frank Thomas?

Injuries did plague Walker. I think he's underrated though. If he played in a major market people would have appreciated how great he was. Playing rightfield in Colorado is no joke and he was the dick at it. 

Larry Walker was damn good. I wouldn't get upset if he never made the hall of fame but that's an actual baseball discussion. Not the "he did drugs or was mean to me" discussion which I don't give a fuck about.

[ChuckD]

I thought this guy's take was interesting. http://nbcbayarea.csnbayarea.com/giants/baggarly-explains-how-he-almost-left-maddux-hof-ballot

Because of the refusal of the sanctimonious guys to support any "PED Era" players, there's a logjam forming where there are >10 deserving candidates but non-shithead voters can only cast their support for 10. That's only going to get worse in the next few years. I guess I can kind of see the "pissing in the wind" line of reasoning behind supporting less popular (but still deserving) players in lieu of the shoe-ins.

Apart from the bit where he was talking about voting for Larry Walker or Mike Mussina, that was a very well thought-out and interesting article.

Walker's not a terrible pick. He's 85th all-time in WAR and won 8 Gold Gloves. He led the league in batting three times and OPS twice. Was he juicing AND playing his home games in Colorado? Probably. But it's not like he was some big, slow, DH. If I were a GM in the same era, how would I not rather have Walker than Frank Thomas?

Injuries did plague Walker. I think he's underrated though. If he played in a major market people would have appreciated how great he was. Playing rightfield in Colorado is no joke and he was the dick at it. 

Larry Walker was damn good. I wouldn't get upset if he never made the hall of fame but that's an actual baseball discussion. Not the "he did drugs or was mean to me" discussion which I don't give a fuck about.

I wouldn't hate on anyone for voting (or not voting) for Walker or Mussina, but can we just take a quick minute to collectively fuck Jeff Kent in his buttchute?

[BH]

I thought this guy's take was interesting. http://nbcbayarea.csnbayarea.com/giants/baggarly-explains-how-he-almost-left-maddux-hof-ballot

Because of the refusal of the sanctimonious guys to support any "PED Era" players, there's a logjam forming where there are >10 deserving candidates but non-shithead voters can only cast their support for 10. That's only going to get worse in the next few years. I guess I can kind of see the "pissing in the wind" line of reasoning behind supporting less popular (but still deserving) players in lieu of the shoe-ins.

Apart from the bit where he was talking about voting for Larry Walker or Mike Mussina, that was a very well thought-out and interesting article.

Walker's not a terrible pick. He's 85th all-time in WAR and won 8 Gold Gloves. He led the league in batting three times and OPS twice. Was he juicing AND playing his home games in Colorado? Probably. But it's not like he was some big, slow, DH. If I were a GM in the same era, how would I not rather have Walker than Frank Thomas?

Injuries did plague Walker. I think he's underrated though. If he played in a major market people would have appreciated how great he was. Playing rightfield in Colorado is no joke and he was the dick at it. 

Larry Walker was damn good. I wouldn't get upset if he never made the hall of fame but that's an actual baseball discussion. Not the "he did drugs or was mean to me" discussion which I don't give a fuck about.

I wouldn't hate on anyone for voting (or not voting) for Walker or Mussina, but can we just take a quick minute to collectively fuck Jeff Kent in his buttchute?

No need to wait for me, go ahead and knock yourself out.

[CBStew]

I thought this guy's take was interesting. http://nbcbayarea.csnbayarea.com/giants/baggarly-explains-how-he-almost-left-maddux-hof-ballot

Because of the refusal of the sanctimonious guys to support any "PED Era" players, there's a logjam forming where there are >10 deserving candidates but non-shithead voters can only cast their support for 10. That's only going to get worse in the next few years. I guess I can kind of see the "pissing in the wind" line of reasoning behind supporting less popular (but still deserving) players in lieu of the shoe-ins.

Apart from the bit where he was talking about voting for Larry Walker or Mike Mussina, that was a very well thought-out and interesting article.

Walker's not a terrible pick. He's 85th all-time in WAR and won 8 Gold Gloves. He led the league in batting three times and OPS twice. Was he juicing AND playing his home games in Colorado? Probably. But it's not like he was some big, slow, DH. If I were a GM in the same era, how would I not rather have Walker than Frank Thomas?

Injuries did plague Walker. I think he's underrated though. If he played in a major market people would have appreciated how great he was. Playing rightfield in Colorado is no joke and he was the dick at it.  

Larry Walker was damn good. I wouldn't get upset if he never made the hall of fame but that's an actual baseball discussion. Not the "he did drugs or was mean to me" discussion which I don't give a fuck about.

I wouldn't hate on anyone for voting (or not voting) for Walker or Mussina, but can we just take a quick minute to collectively fuck Jeff Kent in his buttchute?

No need to wait for me, go ahead and knock yourself out.

I always hated Jeff Kent as a player and a person, until the day that he got into it physically with Barry Bonds in the dugout during a game.  I can't say that should qualify him for the Hall of Fame, but on the other hand...
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/games02/06/25-giants-padres.htm

[ChuckD]

I thought this guy's take was interesting. http://nbcbayarea.csnbayarea.com/giants/baggarly-explains-how-he-almost-left-maddux-hof-ballot

Because of the refusal of the sanctimonious guys to support any "PED Era" players, there's a logjam forming where there are >10 deserving candidates but non-shithead voters can only cast their support for 10. That's only going to get worse in the next few years. I guess I can kind of see the "pissing in the wind" line of reasoning behind supporting less popular (but still deserving) players in lieu of the shoe-ins.

Apart from the bit where he was talking about voting for Larry Walker or Mike Mussina, that was a very well thought-out and interesting article.

Walker's not a terrible pick. He's 85th all-time in WAR and won 8 Gold Gloves. He led the league in batting three times and OPS twice. Was he juicing AND playing his home games in Colorado? Probably. But it's not like he was some big, slow, DH. If I were a GM in the same era, how would I not rather have Walker than Frank Thomas?

Injuries did plague Walker. I think he's underrated though. If he played in a major market people would have appreciated how great he was. Playing rightfield in Colorado is no joke and he was the dick at it.  

Larry Walker was damn good. I wouldn't get upset if he never made the hall of fame but that's an actual baseball discussion. Not the "he did drugs or was mean to me" discussion which I don't give a fuck about.

I wouldn't hate on anyone for voting (or not voting) for Walker or Mussina, but can we just take a quick minute to collectively fuck Jeff Kent in his buttchute?

No need to wait for me, go ahead and knock yourself out.

I always hated Jeff Kent as a player and a person, until the day that he got into it physically with Barry Bonds in the dugout during a game.  I can't say that should qualify him for the Hall of Fame, but on the other hand...
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/games02/06/25-giants-padres.htm

Counterpoint: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/10/los-angeles-dod.html

[CBStew]

I thought this guy's take was interesting. http://nbcbayarea.csnbayarea.com/giants/baggarly-explains-how-he-almost-left-maddux-hof-ballot

Because of the refusal of the sanctimonious guys to support any "PED Era" players, there's a logjam forming where there are >10 deserving candidates but non-shithead voters can only cast their support for 10. That's only going to get worse in the next few years. I guess I can kind of see the "pissing in the wind" line of reasoning behind supporting less popular (but still deserving) players in lieu of the shoe-ins.

Apart from the bit where he was talking about voting for Larry Walker or Mike Mussina, that was a very well thought-out and interesting article.

Walker's not a terrible pick. He's 85th all-time in WAR and won 8 Gold Gloves. He led the league in batting three times and OPS twice. Was he juicing AND playing his home games in Colorado? Probably. But it's not like he was some big, slow, DH. If I were a GM in the same era, how would I not rather have Walker than Frank Thomas?

Injuries did plague Walker. I think he's underrated though. If he played in a major market people would have appreciated how great he was. Playing rightfield in Colorado is no joke and he was the dick at it.  

Larry Walker was damn good. I wouldn't get upset if he never made the hall of fame but that's an actual baseball discussion. Not the "he did drugs or was mean to me" discussion which I don't give a fuck about.

I wouldn't hate on anyone for voting (or not voting) for Walker or Mussina, but can we just take a quick minute to collectively fuck Jeff Kent in his buttchute?

No need to wait for me, go ahead and knock yourself out.

I always hated Jeff Kent as a player and a person, until the day that he got into it physically with Barry Bonds in the dugout during a game.  I can't say that should qualify him for the Hall of Fame, but on the other hand...
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/games02/06/25-giants-padres.htm

Counterpoint: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/10/los-angeles-dod.html

  His only political contribution was to make a statement against gay marriage?  I bet he and Barry saw eye to eye on that one.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

Is Kent a "suspect"?

Like Slaky, I don't really care if playerd were juicing.  Although Kent did take Sandberg's HR title, even if it was legit the guy was an absolute butcher at the what is arguably the 3rd least essential position on the diamond.  So if he did hit his homeruns "naturally (whatever that might mean) he still fucking sucks.  The Fred McGriff of second basemen. 

Thank you, Chuck D. for rekindling my Kent Hatred.  I think I had forgotten all about that asshole.