Who's a Hall of Famer?

[SKO]

I'd like to know what kind of numbers the fuckers saying Ken Griffey Jr. was "lazy" put up. If that's what that guy can do while being lazy why would you ever fucking work out?

So your hamstrings don't assplode?

I'm glad we can make a series of debilitating injuries (that could have happened to anybody who had been playing balls out, downright elite center field at the major league level for well over a decade before they started) into a moral failing. Cool talk. It's not just routine breakdowns that happen to most non-chemically enhanced world class athletes when they are past their prime, it's laziness? Fuck that.

Ken Griffey Jr. was, is, and always will be the fucking best and I'm not hearing this nonsense. Take it somewhere else of that's how younger about it.

[Quality Start Machine]

I'd like to know what kind of numbers the fuckers saying Ken Griffey Jr. was "lazy" put up. If that's what that guy can do while being lazy why would you ever fucking work out?

I remember Buck Schowalter bitching about Jr. taking BP with his hat on backwards, and how it was disrespectful or some suck bullshit. Then Junior would go out and get all Willie Mays on his ass.

Junior was awesome to the point that I'm willing to let his time in Cincinnati and the South Side slide.

[SKO]

I'd like to know what kind of numbers the fuckers saying Ken Griffey Jr. was "lazy" put up. If that's what that guy can do while being lazy why would you ever fucking work out?

I remember Buck Schowalter bitching about Jr. taking BP with his hat on backwards, and how it was disrespectful or some suck bullshit. Then Junior would go out and get all Willie Mays on his ass.

Junior was awesome to the point that I'm willing to let his time in Cincinnati and the South Side slide.

This. The "lazy" shit is the same garbage we hear about Bryce Harper. It's jealous assholes who hate that some 19 year old kid just walked into the place and was better than them at everything. He wasn't lazy, he just made things look effortless because he was one of the greatest fucking players ever. The idea that him having a bunch of muscle injuries in his mid-to-late 30s when most athletes start to breakdown was some kind of comeuppance for him not putting in the work when he was younger is garbage, and frankly I'm ashamed that Peck of all people, usually a staunch defender of unfairly slandered athletes, would spread this.

[InternetApex]

I'd like to know what kind of numbers the fuckers saying Ken Griffey Jr. was "lazy" put up. If that's what that guy can do while being lazy why would you ever fucking work out?

I remember Buck Schowalter bitching about Jr. taking BP with his hat on backwards, and how it was disrespectful or some suck bullshit. Then Junior would go out and get all Willie Mays on his ass.

Junior was awesome to the point that I'm willing to let his time in Cincinnati and the South Side slide.

This. The "lazy" shit is the same garbage we hear about Bryce Harper. It's jealous assholes who hate that some 19 year old kid just walked into the place and was better than them at everything. He wasn't lazy, he just made things look effortless because he was one of the greatest fucking players ever. The idea that him having a bunch of muscle injuries in his mid-to-late 30s when most athletes start to breakdown was some kind of comeuppance for him not putting in the work when he was younger is garbage, and frankly I'm ashamed that Peck of all people, usually a staunch defender of unfairly slandered athletes, would spread this.

Christ on a bike. I have no idea if what I heard is anywhere close to being true. I know someone from Cincinnati who is black and knows a bunch of other black people who knew him in high school. They said he wasn't the type to hit the gym a lot and that probably led to his body breaking down more often when he got older. It's just a story. To me it's plausible. And if it's true, it means he probably wasn't the type of muscled freak who liked to jam needles in his ass so he could home run binge. It doesn't diminish his greatness one bit.

[SKO]

I'd like to know what kind of numbers the fuckers saying Ken Griffey Jr. was "lazy" put up. If that's what that guy can do while being lazy why would you ever fucking work out?

I remember Buck Schowalter bitching about Jr. taking BP with his hat on backwards, and how it was disrespectful or some suck bullshit. Then Junior would go out and get all Willie Mays on his ass.

Junior was awesome to the point that I'm willing to let his time in Cincinnati and the South Side slide.

This. The "lazy" shit is the same garbage we hear about Bryce Harper. It's jealous assholes who hate that some 19 year old kid just walked into the place and was better than them at everything. He wasn't lazy, he just made things look effortless because he was one of the greatest fucking players ever. The idea that him having a bunch of muscle injuries in his mid-to-late 30s when most athletes start to breakdown was some kind of comeuppance for him not putting in the work when he was younger is garbage, and frankly I'm ashamed that Peck of all people, usually a staunch defender of unfairly slandered athletes, would spread this.

Christ on a bike. I have no idea if what I heard is anywhere close to being true. I know someone from Cincinnati who is black and knows a bunch of other black people who knew him in high school. They said he wasn't the type to hit the gym a lot and that probably led to his body breaking down more often when he got older. It's just a story. To me it's plausible. And if it's true, it means he probably wasn't the type of muscled freak who liked to jam needles in his ass so he could home run binge. It doesn't diminish his greatness one bit.

You don't think it would diminish his greatness in people's eyes if rumor spread that he was lazy and it was his own damn fault he got hurt?

Apologize for insulting the coolest fucking ballplayer of my childhood and wear your hat backward in penance for the rest of the day.

[InternetApex]

I'd like to know what kind of numbers the fuckers saying Ken Griffey Jr. was "lazy" put up. If that's what that guy can do while being lazy why would you ever fucking work out?

I remember Buck Schowalter bitching about Jr. taking BP with his hat on backwards, and how it was disrespectful or some suck bullshit. Then Junior would go out and get all Willie Mays on his ass.

Junior was awesome to the point that I'm willing to let his time in Cincinnati and the South Side slide.

This. The "lazy" shit is the same garbage we hear about Bryce Harper. It's jealous assholes who hate that some 19 year old kid just walked into the place and was better than them at everything. He wasn't lazy, he just made things look effortless because he was one of the greatest fucking players ever. The idea that him having a bunch of muscle injuries in his mid-to-late 30s when most athletes start to breakdown was some kind of comeuppance for him not putting in the work when he was younger is garbage, and frankly I'm ashamed that Peck of all people, usually a staunch defender of unfairly slandered athletes, would spread this.

Christ on a bike. I have no idea if what I heard is anywhere close to being true. I know someone from Cincinnati who is black and knows a bunch of other black people who knew him in high school. They said he wasn't the type to hit the gym a lot and that probably led to his body breaking down more often when he got older. It's just a story. To me it's plausible. And if it's true, it means he probably wasn't the type of muscled freak who liked to jam needles in his ass so he could home run binge. It doesn't diminish his greatness one bit.

You don't think it would diminish his greatness in people's eyes if rumor spread that he was lazy and it was his own damn fault he got hurt?

Apologize for insulting the coolest fucking ballplayer of my childhood and wear your hat backward in penance for the rest of the day.

No. Fuck the Reds. He was a lazy cunt.

He was beloved in Cincinnati. That contract he signed was going to save the city like LeBron is doing in Cleveland. But he didn't produce and there was a lot of anguish about it. Generally, they sympathize with him. The talk is like, oh, so he was juicing until he got his last big contract and then came home and coasted his way to retirement on the fucking DL. And the retort is, Ken didn't juice. Hell, he didn't even lift, bro.

Who in the fuck knows. It's a whisper campaign from 15 years ago. I'll reveal my sources and introduce you in person. You can take it up with them at the barbershop, or the car wash or wherever the accident will.

[Canadouche]

I'd like to know what kind of numbers the fuckers saying Ken Griffey Jr. was "lazy" put up. If that's what that guy can do while being lazy why would you ever fucking work out?

I remember Buck Schowalter bitching about Jr. taking BP with his hat on backwards, and how it was disrespectful or some suck bullshit. Then Junior would go out and get all Willie Mays on his ass.

Junior was awesome to the point that I'm willing to let his time in Cincinnati and the South Side slide.

This. The "lazy" shit is the same garbage we hear about Bryce Harper. It's jealous assholes who hate that some 19 year old kid just walked into the place and was better than them at everything. He wasn't lazy, he just made things look effortless because he was one of the greatest fucking players ever. The idea that him having a bunch of muscle injuries in his mid-to-late 30s when most athletes start to breakdown was some kind of comeuppance for him not putting in the work when he was younger is garbage, and frankly I'm ashamed that Peck of all people, usually a staunch defender of unfairly slandered athletes, would spread this.

ChristPaul on a bike. I have no idea if what I heard is anywhere close to being true. I know someone from Cincinnati who is black and knows a bunch of other black people who knew him in high school. They said he wasn't the type to hit the gym a lot and that probably led to his body breaking down more often when he got older. It's just a story. To me it's plausible. And if it's true, it means he probably wasn't the type of muscled freak who liked to jam needles in his ass so he could home run binge. It doesn't diminish his greatness one bit.

FTFY.

I guess if BLACK people said he was lazy in the gym, it must be true...

From my fanecdotal knowledge of players like Mickey Mantle (who was legitimately lazy and did not rehab injuries the way he should have), if Griffey wasn't hitting the gym properly it would have taken him longer to recover from injuries. Did his rehab times extend beyond the expected times established by doctors? I honestly don't know, I'm just asking for a friend.

[Quality Start Machine]

I'd like to know what kind of numbers the fuckers saying Ken Griffey Jr. was "lazy" put up. If that's what that guy can do while being lazy why would you ever fucking work out?

I remember Buck Schowalter bitching about Jr. taking BP with his hat on backwards, and how it was disrespectful or some suck bullshit. Then Junior would go out and get all Willie Mays on his ass.

Junior was awesome to the point that I'm willing to let his time in Cincinnati and the South Side slide.

This. The "lazy" shit is the same garbage we hear about Bryce Harper. It's jealous assholes who hate that some 19 year old kid just walked into the place and was better than them at everything. He wasn't lazy, he just made things look effortless because he was one of the greatest fucking players ever. The idea that him having a bunch of muscle injuries in his mid-to-late 30s when most athletes start to breakdown was some kind of comeuppance for him not putting in the work when he was younger is garbage, and frankly I'm ashamed that Peck of all people, usually a staunch defender of unfairly slandered athletes, would spread this.

ChristPaul on a bike. I have no idea if what I heard is anywhere close to being true. I know someone from Cincinnati who is black and knows a bunch of other black people who knew him in high school. They said he wasn't the type to hit the gym a lot and that probably led to his body breaking down more often when he got older. It's just a story. To me it's plausible. And if it's true, it means he probably wasn't the type of muscled freak who liked to jam needles in his ass so he could home run binge. It doesn't diminish his greatness one bit.

FTFY.

I guess if BLACK people said he was lazy in the gym, it must be true...

From my fanecdotal knowledge of players like Mickey Mantle (who was legitimately lazy and did not rehab injuries the way he should have), if Griffey wasn't hitting the gym properly it would have taken him longer to recover from injuries. Did his rehab times extend beyond the expected times established by doctors? I honestly don't know, I'm just asking for a friend.

The greatest ballplayer of all time was Babe Ruth. Not exactly a fan of training, even by 1920s standards.

[InternetApex]

I'd like to know what kind of numbers the fuckers saying Ken Griffey Jr. was "lazy" put up. If that's what that guy can do while being lazy why would you ever fucking work out?

I remember Buck Schowalter bitching about Jr. taking BP with his hat on backwards, and how it was disrespectful or some suck bullshit. Then Junior would go out and get all Willie Mays on his ass.

Junior was awesome to the point that I'm willing to let his time in Cincinnati and the South Side slide.

This. The "lazy" shit is the same garbage we hear about Bryce Harper. It's jealous assholes who hate that some 19 year old kid just walked into the place and was better than them at everything. He wasn't lazy, he just made things look effortless because he was one of the greatest fucking players ever. The idea that him having a bunch of muscle injuries in his mid-to-late 30s when most athletes start to breakdown was some kind of comeuppance for him not putting in the work when he was younger is garbage, and frankly I'm ashamed that Peck of all people, usually a staunch defender of unfairly slandered athletes, would spread this.

ChristPaul on a bike. I have no idea if what I heard is anywhere close to being true. I know someone from Cincinnati who is black and knows a bunch of other black people who knew him in high school. They said he wasn't the type to hit the gym a lot and that probably led to his body breaking down more often when he got older. It's just a story. To me it's plausible. And if it's true, it means he probably wasn't the type of muscled freak who liked to jam needles in his ass so he could home run binge. It doesn't diminish his greatness one bit.

FTFY.

I guess if BLACK people said he was lazy in the gym, it must be true...

From my fanecdotal knowledge of players like Mickey Mantle (who was legitimately lazy and did not rehab injuries the way he should have), if Griffey wasn't hitting the gym properly it would have taken him longer to recover from injuries. Did his rehab times extend beyond the expected times established by doctors? I honestly don't know, I'm just asking for a friend.

The greatest ballplayer of all time was Babe Ruth. Not exactly a fan of training, even by 1920s standards.

Missed half a season due to syphilis. Died of throat cancer in his 40s. He wasn't a fan of a lot of things that could have helped him out later in life. Somehow it doesn't diminish his greatness to say so like it does Griffey. How racist.

[Canadouche]

I'd like to know what kind of numbers the fuckers saying Ken Griffey Jr. was "lazy" put up. If that's what that guy can do while being lazy why would you ever fucking work out?

I remember Buck Schowalter bitching about Jr. taking BP with his hat on backwards, and how it was disrespectful or some suck bullshit. Then Junior would go out and get all Willie Mays on his ass.

Junior was awesome to the point that I'm willing to let his time in Cincinnati and the South Side slide.

This. The "lazy" shit is the same garbage we hear about Bryce Harper. It's jealous assholes who hate that some 19 year old kid just walked into the place and was better than them at everything. He wasn't lazy, he just made things look effortless because he was one of the greatest fucking players ever. The idea that him having a bunch of muscle injuries in his mid-to-late 30s when most athletes start to breakdown was some kind of comeuppance for him not putting in the work when he was younger is garbage, and frankly I'm ashamed that Peck of all people, usually a staunch defender of unfairly slandered athletes, would spread this.

ChristPaul on a bike. I have no idea if what I heard is anywhere close to being true. I know someone from Cincinnati who is black and knows a bunch of other black people who knew him in high school. They said he wasn't the type to hit the gym a lot and that probably led to his body breaking down more often when he got older. It's just a story. To me it's plausible. And if it's true, it means he probably wasn't the type of muscled freak who liked to jam needles in his ass so he could home run binge. It doesn't diminish his greatness one bit.

FTFY.

I guess if BLACK people said he was lazy in the gym, it must be true...

From my fanecdotal knowledge of players like Mickey Mantle (who was legitimately lazy and did not rehab injuries the way he should have), if Griffey wasn't hitting the gym properly it would have taken him longer to recover from injuries. Did his rehab times extend beyond the expected times established by doctors? I honestly don't know, I'm just asking for a friend.

The greatest ballplayer of all time was Babe Ruth. Not exactly a fan of training, even by 1920s standards.

Missed half a season due to syphilis. Died of throat cancer in his 40s. He wasn't a fan of a lot of things that could have helped him out later in life. Somehow it doesn't diminish his greatness to say so like it does Griffey. How racist.

I guess people are racist against Harper too, or maybe they just have a bias against effortless talent.

[CT III]

Relevant but not really relevant: Ken Griffey, Jr. Presents Major League Baseball for SNES is the greatest baseball video game ever.

[Tonker]

Jeez, you guys.  I said there was no need to discuss.

[Quality Start Machine]

Jeez, you guys.  I said there was no need to discuss.

Your ability to read a room is shite, my frent.

[InternetApex]

Relevant but not really relevant: Ken Griffey, Jr. Presents Major League Baseball for SNES is the greatest baseball video game ever.

Relevant but not really relevant. I once got arrested on my way to pick up a 20-sack which I'd planned to bring back to a friend's apartment for a smoked-out Ken Griffey tournament. I never made it. The tournament was cancelled while everybody sat around and worried what happened to my friend Sean and I. So I've never actually played that game but I had plans to. After that I was terrified of it and avoided any contact with it. 

[Canadouche]

I'd like to know what kind of numbers the fuckers saying Ken Griffey Jr. was "lazy" put up. If that's what that guy can do while being lazy why would you ever fucking work out?

I remember Buck Schowalter bitching about Jr. taking BP with his hat on backwards, and how it was disrespectful or some suck bullshit. Then Junior would go out and get all Willie Mays on his ass.

Junior was awesome to the point that I'm willing to let his time in Cincinnati and the South Side slide.

This. The "lazy" shit is the same garbage we hear about Bryce Harper. It's jealous assholes who hate that some 19 year old kid just walked into the place and was better than them at everything. He wasn't lazy, he just made things look effortless because he was one of the greatest fucking players ever. The idea that him having a bunch of muscle injuries in his mid-to-late 30s when most athletes start to breakdown was some kind of comeuppance for him not putting in the work when he was younger is garbage, and frankly I'm ashamed that Peck of all people, usually a staunch defender of unfairly slandered athletes, would spread this.

ChristPaul on a bike. I have no idea if what I heard is anywhere close to being true. I know someone from Cincinnati who is black and knows a bunch of other black people who knew him in high school. They said he wasn't the type to hit the gym a lot and that probably led to his body breaking down more often when he got older. It's just a story. To me it's plausible. And if it's true, it means he probably wasn't the type of muscled freak who liked to jam needles in his ass so he could home run binge. It doesn't diminish his greatness one bit.

FTFY.

I guess if BLACK people said he was lazy in the gym, it must be true...

From my fanecdotal knowledge of players like Mickey Mantle (who was legitimately lazy and did not rehab injuries the way he should have), if Griffey wasn't hitting the gym properly it would have taken him longer to recover from injuries. Did his rehab times extend beyond the expected times established by doctors? I honestly don't know, I'm just asking for a friend.

The greatest ballplayer of all time was Babe Ruth. Not exactly a fan of training, even by 1920s standards.

Missed half a season due to syphilis. Died of throat cancer in his 40s. He wasn't a fan of a lot of things that could have helped him out later in life. Somehow it doesn't diminish his greatness to say so like it does Griffey. How racist.

I wonder if there's a modern day equivilent to Babe Ruth, in terms of talent and body type. He was a class to himself in the 20's and 30's, but athletes in general are bigger and stronger. If we could dump a Kyle Schwarber type (or Bryce Harper) in the 1920's, what kind of numbers would they produce? I often wonder what Babe Ruth could do with modern day pitchers, too. And if he'd taken care of himself, would he have hit 800 homers? Could he even mange 500 in today's game? I have so many pointless questions.