September 9th is circled on this Ogden's calendar...

[Quality Start Machine]

First Beatles' Rock Band, now this.

Oh, hell yeah...best thing since the DVD-Audio of "Pet Sounds".

[Jon]

I love the Beatles production to begin with, but it would be killer to hear these in real stereo, not "Band in one channel, vocals in the other" or similar such mid-60s silliness.

[Quality Start Machine]

I love the Beatles production to begin with, but it would be killer to hear these in real stereo, not "Band in one channel, vocals in the other" or similar such mid-60s silliness.

I almost feel like inviting Oleg over for a listening of "Abbey Road".

[Jon]

I love the Beatles production to begin with, but it would be killer to hear these in real stereo, not "Band in one channel, vocals in the other" or similar such mid-60s silliness.

I almost feel like inviting Oleg over for a listening of "Abbey Road".

If he brings his magical gnome leaves, I'd invite him myself.

[Kermit, B.]

First Beatles' Rock Band, now this.

Oh, hell yeah...best thing since the DVD-Audio of "Pet Sounds".

BEATLETIME!

[Oleg]

That thing in my pants?  It's a warm, tinggly feeling.  And not because you jerks are just using me to enhance your pleasure.  Wait, could that have sounded more ghey?

Seriously, this is going to be all sorts of awesome.

[BH]

I prefer the beatles like this. I hate the "wall of sound" crap.

They sound better simplified in my opinion.

[Quality Start Machine]

I prefer the beatles like this. I hate the "wall of sound" crap.

They sound better simplified in my opinion.

Spector and the Beatles (Not really Wall of Sound, just heavy orchestration behind the Beatles) was almost as bad a match as Spector and the Ramones. However, he produces Lennon's two best albums (Plastic Ono Band and Imagine), and they sounded great, without Wall of Sound.

WOS can sound amazing...Bruce's "Born To Run" and the aforementioned "Pet Sounds", along with any of Spector's stuff on Philles.

[butthead]

I prefer the beatles like this. I hate the "wall of sound" crap.

They sound better simplified in my opinion.

Spector and the Beatles (Not really Wall of Sound, just heavy orchestration behind the Beatles) was almost as bad a match as Spector and the Ramones. However, he produces Lennon's two best albums (Plastic Ono Band and Imagine), and they sounded great, without Wall of Sound.

WOS can sound amazing...Bruce's "Born To Run" and the aforementioned "Pet Sounds", along with any of Spector's stuff on Philles.

I thought I heard Spector was MIA for most of "Plastic Ono Band" and Lennon had to put an ad in the paper telling him to get his ass to the studio because nobody could find him.

[Quality Start Machine]

I prefer the beatles like this. I hate the "wall of sound" crap.

They sound better simplified in my opinion.

Spector and the Beatles (Not really Wall of Sound, just heavy orchestration behind the Beatles) was almost as bad a match as Spector and the Ramones. However, he produces Lennon's two best albums (Plastic Ono Band and Imagine), and they sounded great, without Wall of Sound.

WOS can sound amazing...Bruce's "Born To Run" and the aforementioned "Pet Sounds", along with any of Spector's stuff on Philles.

I thought I heard Spector was MIA for most of "Plastic Ono Band" and Lennon had to put an ad in the paper telling him to get his ass to the studio because nobody could find him.

He still did the final mastering, which was all he did on "Let It Be"...those tapes were recorded before "Abbey Road", and nobody (least of all George Martin) wanted to sift through them all.

Spector also did "All Things Must Pass", which might be the best Beatle Solo Album.

[PenFoe]

I prefer the beatles like this. I hate the "wall of sound" crap.

They sound better simplified in my opinion.

THIS.

Well, the part I understand at least, being not very musically inclined.
This seems like a ploy to sell more albums more than it sounds like a big improvement on the original product.

[BH]

I prefer the beatles like this. I hate the "wall of sound" crap.

They sound better simplified in my opinion.

THIS.

Well, the part I understand at least, being not very musically inclined.
This seems like a ploy to sell more albums more than it sounds like a big improvement on the original product.

I think the "original" product is without all the horns and crap.. the guitars sounded like guitars, you could just hear the bass, the drums and the guitars..
and the vocals.. this is how i typically prefer music..

[start Rant]
I like listening to a record and thinking how live it sounds, no studio tricks, no overdubs or major edits..
old recordings are the best, they used tape to record albums.. it was hard to change the takes.
no pro-tools bs.. I like hearing mistakes bands make when they play, adds character.
My main issue with "new" rock or country is that it's too polished.. for example, they have voice tools now where TDubbs could sing and he'd sound just like John Mayer, even though everyone knows his voice sounds like Joey Lauren Adams in real life.

I've been in major recording studios watching big time bands record and literally a guitar player will play 10 sec of a song 50+ times, then they'll spend the next 6 hrs cutting seconds from one to the other to pick the perfect 10 sec to add to the song.. it's crazy.

Screw fall out boy and bands like that.
[end rant]

[RV]

I've been in major recording studios watching big time bands record

Oh yeah, Hollywood? I bet you've never interviewed Crane Kenney.

[Quality Start Machine]

I prefer the beatles like this. I hate the "wall of sound" crap.

They sound better simplified in my opinion.

THIS.

Well, the part I understand at least, being not very musically inclined.
This seems like a ploy to sell more albums more than it sounds like a big improvement on the original product.

I think the "original" product is without all the horns and crap.. the guitars sounded like guitars, you could just hear the bass, the drums and the guitars..
and the vocals.. this is how i typically prefer music..

[start Rant]
I like listening to a record and thinking how live it sounds, no studio tricks, no overdubs or major edits..
old recordings are the best, they used tape to record albums.. it was hard to change the takes.
no pro-tools bs.. I like hearing mistakes bands make when they play, adds character.
My main issue with "new" rock or country is that it's too polished.. for example, they have voice tools now where TDubbs could sing and he'd sound just like John Mayer, even though everyone knows his voice sounds like Joey Lauren Adams in real life.

I've been in major recording studios watching big time bands record and literally a guitar player will play 10 sec of a song 50+ times, then they'll spend the next 6 hrs cutting seconds from one to the other to pick the perfect 10 sec to add to the song.. it's crazy.

Screw fall out boy and bands like that.
[end rant]

A great old-school producer, like Phil Spector, Norman Whitfield or Brian Wilson, could make great records that could never translate live. But there wasn't really much trickery they could do, the technology wasn't there.

But, yeah, there are a lot of people making a lot of money (Jennifer Lopez and Ashlee Simpson are the best example) who can't perform live, simply because they can't carry a tune in a bucket.

[butthead]

I prefer the beatles like this. I hate the "wall of sound" crap.

They sound better simplified in my opinion.

THIS.

Well, the part I understand at least, being not very musically inclined.
This seems like a ploy to sell more albums more than it sounds like a big improvement on the original product.

I think the "original" product is without all the horns and crap.. the guitars sounded like guitars, you could just hear the bass, the drums and the guitars..
and the vocals.. this is how i typically prefer music..

[start Rant]
I like listening to a record and thinking how live it sounds, no studio tricks, no overdubs or major edits..
old recordings are the best, they used tape to record albums.. it was hard to change the takes.
no pro-tools bs.. I like hearing mistakes bands make when they play, adds character.
My main issue with "new" rock or country is that it's too polished.. for example, they have voice tools now where TDubbs could sing and he'd sound just like John Mayer, even though everyone knows his voice sounds like Joey Lauren Adams in real life.

I've been in major recording studios watching big time bands record and literally a guitar player will play 10 sec of a song 50+ times, then they'll spend the next 6 hrs cutting seconds from one to the other to pick the perfect 10 sec to add to the song.. it's crazy.

Screw fall out boy and bands like that.
[end rant]

A great old-school producer, like Phil Spector, Norman Whitfield or Brian Wilson, could make great records that could never translate live. But there wasn't really much trickery they could do, the technology wasn't there.

But, yeah, there are a lot of people making a lot of money (Jennifer Lopez and Ashlee Simpson are the best example) who can't perform live, simply because they can't carry a tune in a bucket.

Fork's right. There' a difference between cheating or hiding mistakes/lack of talent, and the creative use of the studio to make music that couldn't or doesn't need to be played live. But I get what you're saying BH.