The Unresolved Bullpen Angst Thread

[Quality Start Machine]

Seeing those comments remind me of what life was like before the web 'sploded and we had places like Desipio.  I spent the better part of 2002 bashing my head against the wall at the chicagosports.com Cubs messageboard arguing against people who thought Roosevelt Brown was simply not getting a fair shake.

Are you saying you did?

[Internet Apex]

I spent the better part of 2007 banging my head against the wall on this messageboard arguing against people who thought Matt Murton was simply not getting a fair shake. See how far we've come?

[LoneStarCubFan]

Seeing those comments remind me of what life was like before the web 'sploded and we had places like Desipio.  I spent the better part of 2002 bashing my head against the wall at the chicagosports.com Cubs messageboard arguing against people who thought Roosevelt Brown was simply not getting a fair shake.

I remember that too. Never understood the love for that guy.

[*In a Nutsack]

Eli is very right about Hart.  I don't think he had a chance to stay in the Cubs rotation at all and he walked far too many batters to be of use in the pen.  His career WHIP is 1.6 or so, and that's with him cutting it down with a 1.482 WHIP this season.

As Andy said before, Grabow's had success againts lefties in the past.  I don't like the 1.5 WHIP this year, though.  What can you say?  This trade seems meh?  Getting Gorzelanny as a throw in was nice, especially since he's had success at AAA this year coming off an injury in 2008 and is under control for 3.5 more years.  Not terrible at all.  But, arguing for Kevin Hart is dumb.  He gets to walk too many Cub hitters now.  As far as Ascanio is concerned, he can't even defend himself in a 7-11.  Or was it a Circle K?  I don't care to remind myself.  He was probably the eigth or ninth best (ML ready) reliever in the organization.

[MAD]

I spent the better part of 2008, during an unprecedented--in most of our lifetimes-- 97-win season, allowing myself to get angry at that screaming pantywaist LoneStarCubFan who would shriek like Jamie Lee Curtis in "Halloween" every time the Cubs dared to lose a game, so I guess you're right Apex--we haven't come very far.

[*In a Nutsack]

For those interested in Gorzelanny's season with AAA Indianapolis so far:

4-3 (15 starts), 87.0 IP, 2.48 ERA, 1.184 WHIP, 85/30 K/BB ratio, 8.8 K/9.

I guess I'm pretty retarded because I couldn't find BAA on BR's minors page.  I don't have time to look for it, bu anyway...there you go.

[Chuck to Chuck]

What can you say?  This trade seems meh? 

Yes.  All we need are Jody Gerut, Craig Monroe and Tony Womack to make this trade yippie skippy exciting!

[Ivy6]

I spent the better part of 2007 banging my head against the wall on this messageboard arguing against people who thought Matt Murton was simply not getting a fair shake. See how far we've come?

I spent the better part of 2008, during an unprecedented--in most of our lifetimes-- 97-win season, allowing myself to get angry at that screaming pantywaist LoneStarCubFan who would shriek like Jamie Lee Curtis in "Halloween" every time the Cubs dared to lose a game, so I guess you're right Apex--we haven't come very far.

People were pining for Andres Blanco like 4 days ago.

[RV]

Because Grabow is a lefty who doesn't pitch that well against lefties and Gorzellany can't break the Pirates rotation?
Hart's been reasonably solid lately and Harrison has some nice stats.

Lefties in the last three years against Grabow have a .652 OPS.

Gorzellany's coming back from injury, so the Pirates were basically just playing it safe with him in Triple A.  He's also had major league success before and he's still only 26.  Given that the Cubs will control him for another 3.5 seasons, it's definitely worth a chance to see if he returns to 2007 form.

As for Hart, he still has a 1.48 WHIP this year.  He's been very lucky lately.

I agree with Eli.  He's using numbers, but it's only a few of them.  Also, I'm pretty familiar with 'em, too.  26?  I was just that age a few years ago.  5?  I have five fingers on my toes.  It's a little weird, but it helps me remember.  Remember the time I ate 1.48 chili dogs?  No?  Well, it'd be strange if ya did, goofy.  You weren't even there!  LOL

But, seriously, Eli's right as rain on this one.  I've forgotten what we were talking about, but I bet he backed up his argument pretty well.

I can't believe this is all we have to show for Freddy Bynum.

I like this trade anyway, but I like it even better when you look at it as:

Fast Freddy, Jacque Jones, Will Ohman, and Josh Harrison for Grabowlanny.

[Kermit, B.]

Seeing those comments remind me of what life was like before the web 'sploded and we had places like Desipio.  I spent the better part of 2002 bashing my head against the wall at the chicagosports.com Cubs messageboard arguing against people who thought Roosevelt Brown was simply not getting a fair shake.

That sounds far better than the time I spent at Cubs.com and the four-letter.

[Slaky]

Seeing those comments remind me of what life was like before the web 'sploded and we had places like Desipio.  I spent the better part of 2002 bashing my head against the wall at the chicagosports.com Cubs messageboard arguing against people who thought Roosevelt Brown was simply not getting a fair shake.

That sounds far better than the time I spent at Cubs.com and the four-letter.

What about the Cubs board on ESPN? Woof.

Also, ITI.

[Ivy6]

Seeing those comments remind me of what life was like before the web 'sploded and we had places like Desipio.  I spent the better part of 2002 bashing my head against the wall at the chicagosports.com Cubs messageboard arguing against people who thought Roosevelt Brown was simply not getting a fair shake.

That sounds far better than the time I spent at Cubs.com and the four-letter.

What about the Cubs board on ESPN? Woof.

Also, ITI.

I was out having sex with vaginas.

[Internet Apex]

I spent the better part of 2007 banging my head against the wall on this messageboard arguing against people who thought Matt Murton was simply not getting a fair shake. See how far we've come?

I spent the better part of 2008, during an unprecedented--in most of our lifetimes-- 97-win season, allowing myself to get angry at that screaming pantywaist LoneStarCubFan who would shriek like Jamie Lee Curtis in "Halloween" every time the Cubs dared to lose a game, so I guess you're right Apex--we haven't come very far.

People were pining for Andres Blanco like 4 days ago.

Nobody said he was good, just that we wanted to watch him play shortstop. It was out of anger that we said it. But we're better now.

[SKO]

Seeing those comments remind me of what life was like before the web 'sploded and we had places like Desipio.  I spent the better part of 2002 bashing my head against the wall at the chicagosports.com Cubs messageboard arguing against people who thought Roosevelt Brown was simply not getting a fair shake.

That sounds far better than the time I spent at Cubs.com and the four-letter.

What about the Cubs board on ESPN? Woof.

Also, ITI.

I was out having sex with vaginas.

I was in junior high.

[Kermit, B.]

Seeing those comments remind me of what life was like before the web 'sploded and we had places like Desipio.  I spent the better part of 2002 bashing my head against the wall at the chicagosports.com Cubs messageboard arguing against people who thought Roosevelt Brown was simply not getting a fair shake.

That sounds far better than the time I spent at Cubs.com and the four-letter.

What about the Cubs board on ESPN? Woof.

Also, ITI.

I was out having sex with vaginas.

I was in junior high, dickhead.

Die Hard'ed.