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Re: The Unresolved Bullpen Angst Thread
« Reply #270 on: May 26, 2009, 01:20:06 AM »
Neal Cotts
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What a line of southpaw greatness.
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Re: The Unresolved Bullpen Angst Thread
« Reply #271 on: May 26, 2009, 05:45:46 AM »
How in the hell is Neil Cotts still even on this team?

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Re: The Unresolved Bullpen Angst Thread
« Reply #272 on: May 26, 2009, 08:38:02 AM »
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090525&content_id=4949336&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

QuoteThe lead changed hands again in the Pirates sixth as McLouth smacked a two-run homer off Neal Cotts (0-2) and Andy LaRoche hit an RBI double to go ahead, 9-7. Sanchez added an RBI single in the seventh.

"We've given Neal all the opportunities in the world," Piniella said of the lefty, who has a 7.36 ERA. "It's time, isn't it?"

"I just didn't make pitches tonight," Cotts said.

Oh, it's time, Lou.  It's time.
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Re: The Unresolved Bullpen Angst Thread
« Reply #273 on: May 26, 2009, 08:44:21 AM »
Quote from: morpheus on May 26, 2009, 08:38:02 AM
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090525&content_id=4949336&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

QuoteThe lead changed hands again in the Pirates sixth as McLouth smacked a two-run homer off Neal Cotts (0-2) and Andy LaRoche hit an RBI double to go ahead, 9-7. Sanchez added an RBI single in the seventh.

"We've given Neal all the opportunities in the world," Piniella said of the lefty, who has a 7.36 ERA. "It's time, isn't it?"

"I just didn't make pitches tonight," Cotts said.

Oh, it's time, Lou.  It's time.

It's time allright. It's time for Hendry to tell Cotts to pack up his stuff and hit the road.

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Re: The Unresolved Bullpen Angst Thread
« Reply #274 on: May 26, 2009, 11:06:37 AM »
Quote from: Waco Kid on May 26, 2009, 05:45:46 AM
How in the hell is Neil Cotts still even on this team?

Well, he's left-handed.  It's impossible for right-handed pitchers to get left-handed hitters out, so we gotta have one.

You know has held lefties to a .707 OPS over the past three years, including a .479 OPS this year?  Mike Wuertz.  I still don't understand why he was traded away for nothing.

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Re: The Unresolved Bullpen Angst Thread
« Reply #275 on: May 26, 2009, 11:12:35 AM »
Quote from: Eli on May 26, 2009, 11:06:37 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on May 26, 2009, 05:45:46 AM
How in the hell is Neil Cotts still even on this team?

Well, he's left-handed.  It's impossible for right-handed pitchers to get left-handed hitters out, so we gotta have one.

You know has held lefties to a .707 OPS over the past three years, including a .479 OPS this year?  Mike Wuertz.  I still don't understand why he was traded away for nothing.

How can they keep running Cotts out there, but give up on Eyre and Wuertz so easily?

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Re: The Unresolved Bullpen Angst Thread
« Reply #276 on: May 26, 2009, 11:13:39 AM »
Quote from: butthead on May 26, 2009, 11:12:35 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 26, 2009, 11:06:37 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on May 26, 2009, 05:45:46 AM
How in the hell is Neil Cotts still even on this team?

Well, he's left-handed.  It's impossible for right-handed pitchers to get left-handed hitters out, so we gotta have one.

You know has held lefties to a .707 OPS over the past three years, including a .479 OPS this year?  Mike Wuertz.  I still don't understand why he was traded away for nothing.

How can they keep running Cotts out there, but give up on Eyre and Wuertz so easily?

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Re: The Unresolved Bullpen Angst Thread
« Reply #277 on: May 26, 2009, 11:16:20 AM »
Quote from: MAD on May 26, 2009, 11:13:39 AM
Quote from: butthead on May 26, 2009, 11:12:35 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 26, 2009, 11:06:37 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on May 26, 2009, 05:45:46 AM
How in the hell is Neil Cotts still even on this team?

Well, he's left-handed.  It's impossible for right-handed pitchers to get left-handed hitters out, so we gotta have one.

You know has held lefties to a .707 OPS over the past three years, including a .479 OPS this year?  Mike Wuertz.  I still don't understand why he was traded away for nothing.

How can they keep running Cotts out there, but give up on Eyre and Wuertz so easily?

You just made an enemy, pal.

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Re: The Unresolved Bullpen Angst Thread
« Reply #278 on: May 26, 2009, 11:16:49 AM »
Quote from: butthead on May 26, 2009, 11:12:35 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 26, 2009, 11:06:37 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on May 26, 2009, 05:45:46 AM
How in the hell is Neil Cotts still even on this team?

Well, he's left-handed.  It's impossible for right-handed pitchers to get left-handed hitters out, so we gotta have one.

You know has held lefties to a .707 OPS over the past three years, including a .479 OPS this year?  Mike Wuertz.  I still don't understand why he was traded away for nothing.

How can they keep running Cotts out there, but give up on Eyre and Wuertz so easily?

And I'm not even sure "giving up" is the right term for Wuertz, since that would imply he was bad and they got fed up with it.  I know there was the perceived issue of him having trouble pitching back-to-back days (though the numbers don't back this up), but he was rock-solid for five years.  I'm still confused.

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Re: The Unresolved Bullpen Angst Thread
« Reply #279 on: May 26, 2009, 11:21:48 AM »
Quote from: Eli on May 26, 2009, 11:16:49 AM
Quote from: butthead on May 26, 2009, 11:12:35 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 26, 2009, 11:06:37 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on May 26, 2009, 05:45:46 AM
How in the hell is Neil Cotts still even on this team?

Well, he's left-handed.  It's impossible for right-handed pitchers to get left-handed hitters out, so we gotta have one.

You know has held lefties to a .707 OPS over the past three years, including a .479 OPS this year?  Mike Wuertz.  I still don't understand why he was traded away for nothing.

How can they keep running Cotts out there, but give up on Eyre and Wuertz so easily?

And I'm not even sure "giving up" is the right term for Wuertz, since that would imply he was bad and they got fed up with it.  I know there was the perceived issue of him having trouble pitching back-to-back days (though the numbers don't back this up), but he was rock-solid for five years.  I'm still confused.

So emphatically this.  Completely baffling.  1.96 ERA and 0.826 WHIP right now with 20 strikeouts against 4 walks.  Ugh.
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Re: The Unresolved Bullpen Angst Thread
« Reply #280 on: May 26, 2009, 11:24:38 AM »
Quote from: Kermit, B. on May 26, 2009, 11:21:48 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 26, 2009, 11:16:49 AM
Quote from: butthead on May 26, 2009, 11:12:35 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 26, 2009, 11:06:37 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on May 26, 2009, 05:45:46 AM
How in the hell is Neil Cotts still even on this team?

Well, he's left-handed.  It's impossible for right-handed pitchers to get left-handed hitters out, so we gotta have one.

You know has held lefties to a .707 OPS over the past three years, including a .479 OPS this year?  Mike Wuertz.  I still don't understand why he was traded away for nothing.

How can they keep running Cotts out there, but give up on Eyre and Wuertz so easily?

And I'm not even sure "giving up" is the right term for Wuertz, since that would imply he was bad and they got fed up with it.  I know there was the perceived issue of him having trouble pitching back-to-back days (though the numbers don't back this up), but he was rock-solid for five years.  I'm still confused.

So emphatically this.  Completely baffling.  1.96 ERA and 0.826 WHIP right now with 20 strikeouts against 4 walks.  Ugh.

Gnashing our teeth over losing Michael Wuertz.
Holy fuck.
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Re: The Unresolved Bullpen Angst Thread
« Reply #281 on: May 26, 2009, 11:26:39 AM »
Quote from: PenFoe on May 26, 2009, 11:24:38 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on May 26, 2009, 11:21:48 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 26, 2009, 11:16:49 AM
Quote from: butthead on May 26, 2009, 11:12:35 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 26, 2009, 11:06:37 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on May 26, 2009, 05:45:46 AM
How in the hell is Neil Cotts still even on this team?

Well, he's left-handed.  It's impossible for right-handed pitchers to get left-handed hitters out, so we gotta have one.

You know has held lefties to a .707 OPS over the past three years, including a .479 OPS this year?  Mike Wuertz.  I still don't understand why he was traded away for nothing.

How can they keep running Cotts out there, but give up on Eyre and Wuertz so easily?

And I'm not even sure "giving up" is the right term for Wuertz, since that would imply he was bad and they got fed up with it.  I know there was the perceived issue of him having trouble pitching back-to-back days (though the numbers don't back this up), but he was rock-solid for five years.  I'm still confused.

So emphatically this.  Completely baffling.  1.96 ERA and 0.826 WHIP right now with 20 strikeouts against 4 walks.  Ugh.

Gnashing our teeth over losing Michael Wuertz.
Holy fuck.

This is what happens when watching the likes of Cotts, Patton, and Heilman.

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Re: The Unresolved Bullpen Angst Thread
« Reply #282 on: May 26, 2009, 12:47:08 PM »
Quote from: Waco Kid on May 26, 2009, 11:26:39 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 26, 2009, 11:24:38 AM
Quote from: Kermit, B. on May 26, 2009, 11:21:48 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 26, 2009, 11:16:49 AM
Quote from: butthead on May 26, 2009, 11:12:35 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 26, 2009, 11:06:37 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on May 26, 2009, 05:45:46 AM
How in the hell is Neil Cotts still even on this team?

Well, he's left-handed.  It's impossible for right-handed pitchers to get left-handed hitters out, so we gotta have one.

You know has held lefties to a .707 OPS over the past three years, including a .479 OPS this year?  Mike Wuertz.  I still don't understand why he was traded away for nothing.

How can they keep running Cotts out there, but give up on Eyre and Wuertz so easily?

And I'm not even sure "giving up" is the right term for Wuertz, since that would imply he was bad and they got fed up with it.  I know there was the perceived issue of him having trouble pitching back-to-back days (though the numbers don't back this up), but he was rock-solid for five years.  I'm still confused.

So emphatically this.  Completely baffling.  1.96 ERA and 0.826 WHIP right now with 20 strikeouts against 4 walks.  Ugh.

Gnashing our teeth over losing Michael Wuertz.
Holy fuck.

This is what happens when watching the likes of Cotts, Patton, and Heilman.

Also makes one wonder why the pitching coach isn't getting his ass reamed too.

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Re: The Unresolved Bullpen Angst Thread
« Reply #283 on: May 26, 2009, 12:49:28 PM »
Quote from: Eli on May 26, 2009, 11:06:37 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on May 26, 2009, 05:45:46 AM
How in the hell is Neil Cotts still even on this team?

Well, he's left-handed.  It's impossible for right-handed pitchers to get left-handed hitters out, so we gotta have one.

You know has held lefties to a .707 OPS over the past three years, including a .479 OPS this year?  Mike Wuertz.  I still don't understand why he was traded away for nothing.

Do you remember how Wuertz was pretty good when rested but absolutely useless when used on consecutive days? Also, do you remember back when he used to walk guys a ton and crap his pants whenever he was given an opportunity to pitch in a close game with a lead? You might have some stats somewhere that make it look like that's not the case. Maybe you do. I don't know. But I remember this to be the case and I'm pretty sure there were a few GMs around the league who had the same scouting reports telling them what to trade for Wuertz if Hendry ever offered to deal him. I'm sure that the handful of cum they received from Oakland was on everybody's list. Yay for him pitching well on what I think will be a last place team when all is said and done. He pitched well in 2006 if I recall. I had high hopes for him then.

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Re: The Unresolved Bullpen Angst Thread
« Reply #284 on: May 26, 2009, 12:57:22 PM »
Quote from: Apexx on May 26, 2009, 12:49:28 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 26, 2009, 11:06:37 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on May 26, 2009, 05:45:46 AM
How in the hell is Neil Cotts still even on this team?

Well, he's left-handed.  It's impossible for right-handed pitchers to get left-handed hitters out, so we gotta have one.

You know has held lefties to a .707 OPS over the past three years, including a .479 OPS this year?  Mike Wuertz.  I still don't understand why he was traded away for nothing.

Do you remember how Wuertz was pretty good when rested but absolutely useless when used on consecutive days? Also, do you remember back when he used to walk guys a ton and crap his pants whenever he was given an opportunity to pitch in a close game with a lead? You might have some stats somewhere that make it look like that's not the case. Maybe you do. I don't know.

To answer your questions...

Quote from: Eli on May 26, 2009, 11:16:49 AM
And I'm not even sure "giving up" is the right term for Wuertz, since that would imply he was bad and they got fed up with it.  I know there was the perceived issue of him having trouble pitching back-to-back days (though the numbers don't back this up), but he was rock-solid for five years.  I'm still confused.
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