The 2010 Cubs Free Agent and Roster Moves Thread: SAVEENG OUR KUBBEEZ!!11

[Yeti]

Last year was the first time in Byrd's career he had over 500 ABs.

And guys in their 30s coming off career years are always solid free agent signings.

The Cubs will win the Central with their 97 year old OF (only because 86 wins should do it), and get curb stomped in the playoffs again.

Nope.

Not because the Cubs are any good, but because every other team in the division is spectacularly shitty.

Just like last year.

The Cardinals didn't beat the Cubs, injuries did.

Also, other baseball teams.

Also, Milton Bradley

Milton beat the Cubs?

Yeah.  Along with Aaron, Aaron, Kevin and Jim Hendry

I don't like to blame the downfall of the Cubs in 2009 on a guy that had a .378 OBP. I'd rather accuse people like ASor, GSot, MFon. But yea, that was last year. 2010 is the year of the Ember.

[Slaky]

The Cubs are a team of old players, slow players, injury prone players, bad defenders and impatient hitters. This should end well.

[Shooter]

The Cubs are a team of old players, slow players, injury prone players, bad defenders and impatient hitters. This should end well.

I vote that the MEP be held in the city this year. Does Saturday, August 14th work for everyone?

[Weebs]

Byrd will make 6.5 million in 2012. 5.5 in 2011. 3 in 2010.

At first glance, this seemed like a good thing.  Screw you for putting the years in reverse order.

[Slaky]

Byrd will make 6.5 million in 2012. 5.5 in 2011. 3 in 2010.

At first glance, this seemed like a good thing.  Screw you for putting the years in reverse order.

Heh heh. There's nothing good about this.

[Yeti]

Byrd will make 6.5 million in 2012. 5.5 in 2011. 3 in 2010.

At first glance, this seemed like a good thing.  Screw you for putting the years in reverse order.

Heh heh. There's nothing good about this.

If payroll is 150 million in 2012, then this is 4.3% of it. Why is paying one of your starters 4.3% of payroll a bad thing? The Cubs have Derrek Lee and Lilly coming off the books after 2010. Fukudome, Aramis, and Silva come off the books in 2011. So, 2010's reduction is $26 million (That could be 17% of payroll @ $150 million). 2011's reduction is (not including buyouts) $41.85 (28% @ $150). Now, it is very possible that a good chunk of these guys could be retained, and most of them at more money. The ones I foresee are Lilly, Lee, and Aramis. However, those are no guarantee so as it sits today, the Cubs are shedding a shitload of payroll in a few years so giving Marlon Byrd a 3.5 million dollar pay raise from 2010 to 2012 is pretty insignificant.

Also, his 2007-2009 numbers probably put him as the 3rd best hitter on this team. Lee and Ramirez in front, with Geo, Soriano, and Fuku all behind him. So, $5/year for the 3rd best hitter on the team? That's much better than I expected Hendry to be able to do. I expecte $8 million a year.


Correction: I see that Ramirez can option out of 2011 so he could be gone after 2010, but regardless the point remains.. The Cubs are potentially still going to have flexibility.

[CT III]

Byrd will make 6.5 million in 2012. 5.5 in 2011. 3 in 2010.

At first glance, this seemed like a good thing.  Screw you for putting the years in reverse order.

Heh heh. There's nothing good about this.

If payroll is 150 million in 2012, then this is 4.3% of it. Why is paying one of your starters 4.3% of payroll a bad thing? The Cubs have Derrek Lee and Lilly coming off the books after 2010. Fukudome, Aramis, and Silva come off the books in 2011. So, 2010's reduction is $26 million (That could be 17% of payroll @ $150 million). 2011's reduction is (not including buyouts) $41.85 (28% @ $150). Now, it is very possible that a good chunk of these guys could be retained, and most of them at more money. The ones I foresee are Lilly, Lee, and Aramis. However, those are no guarantee so as it sits today, the Cubs are shedding a shitload of payroll in a few years so giving Marlon Byrd a 3.5 million dollar pay raise from 2010 to 2012 is pretty insignificant.

Also, his 2007-2009 numbers probably put him as the 3rd best hitter on this team. Lee and Ramirez in front, with Geo, Soriano, and Fuku all behind him. So, $5/year for the 3rd best hitter on the team? That's much better than I expected Hendry to be able to do. I expecte $8 million a year.


Correction: I see that Ramirez can option out of 2011 so he could be gone after 2010, but regardless the point remains.. The Cubs are potentially still going to have flexibility.

WE'RE TOO RIGHT HANDED AGAIN!

[Internet Apex]

I'll be going to some Cubs games this year. Other than that, there isn't any commentary that I can add at this point.

[Chuck to Chuck]

Now, it is very possible that a good chunk of these guys could be retained, and most of them at more money. The ones I foresee are Lilly, Lee, and Aramis.

If Lee and Lilly are retained at an INCREASE in salary, the Cubs will have a new owner within 10 years.  The Ricketts family will bankrupt the team.  This time, unintentionally.

[CubFaninHydePark]

Isn't it nice that the Cubs now have to pass on legit good OF's like Bay and Holliday because the albatross hanging around the team's salary? Hendry blows.

[Pre]

Also, his 2007-2009 numbers probably put him as the 3rd best hitter on this team. Lee and Ramirez in front, with Geo, Soriano, and Fuku all behind him. So, $5/year for the 3rd best hitter on the team? That's much better than I expected Hendry to be able to do. I expecte $8 million a year.

$5 per is not a bad price for a mediocre CFer.  It's a reasonable contract for a meh player.

However, if you think he's going to be the 3rd best hitter on the team then you must really
think the Cubs are going to suck balls next year.  Look at his home/away splits the last 3 years,
and even given that huge home field advantage (over 100 points to slugging alone every year)
he only was around a 110 OPS+ for that stretch.  Sure, he'd have looked decent compared to
the garbage that was last year with his Arlington stats, but he'd fit right in with his away splits.

[Yeti]

Also, his 2007-2009 numbers probably put him as the 3rd best hitter on this team. Lee and Ramirez in front, with Geo, Soriano, and Fuku all behind him. So, $5/year for the 3rd best hitter on the team? That's much better than I expected Hendry to be able to do. I expecte $8 million a year.

$5 per is not a bad price for a mediocre CFer.  It's a reasonable contract for a meh player.

However, if you think he's going to be the 3rd best hitter on the team then you must really
think the Cubs are going to suck balls next year.  Look at his home/away splits the last 3 years,
and even given that huge home field advantage (over 100 points to slugging alone every year)
he only was around a 110 OPS+ for that stretch.  Sure, he'd have looked decent compared to
the garbage that was last year with his Arlington stats, but he'd fit right in with his away splits.

The park factor of Arlington and Wrigley is just about the same, so I guess I would expect those splits to continue. Kicking ass at home might be better for him anyway. Keeps the Cub fans happy

[Tony]

$5 per is not a bad price for a mediocre CFer.  It's a reasonable contract for a meh player.

And he'll be on a mediocre team that will have a meh season....bring on the 2010 Bears!

[Internet Apex]

$5 per is not a bad price for a mediocre CFer.  It's a reasonable contract for a meh player.

And he'll be on a mediocre team that will have a meh season....bring on the 2010 Bears!

That's how much we signed Slaky for this year. So um... What Tony said.

[Slaky]

$5 per is not a bad price for a mediocre CFer.  It's a reasonable contract for a meh player.

And he'll be on a mediocre team that will have a meh season....bring on the 2010 Bears!

That's how much we signed Slaky for this year. So um... What Tony said.

It was a banner year at the Slaky house.