The 2010 Cubs Free Agent and Roster Moves Thread: SAVEENG OUR KUBBEEZ!!11

[ChuckD]

Quality of teams has to factor in here--when Bay was with the Pirates, they were so shitty that a replacement LF wasn't going to cost the Pirates games they were already losing.  When he was with the Red Sox, there was enough surrounding talent that Bay's contributions probably didn't influence their winning percentage that strongly.

That's not how it works.

From what I read, WAR calculated the # of wins the player would be expected to contribute above a generic/average replacement.  Maybe I misunderstood, but if that is the case, it'd make sense that a player's team would influence that stat.

As for UZR, it makes sense that an OF's rating would be affected by who plays the neighboring position(s).  It'll be interesting to see if a healthy Beltran affects Bay's rating.

So what's it like going through life never being wrong about anything?

I'm not saying I'm right--I didn't understand the full definition of the stats and why a player's team's quality didn't affect the WAR value of a player and was asking for clarity.

I'm just trying to learn, and focused/pointed questions are usually the best way to get the information you're lacking.

Normally questions are punctuated with question marks. Just FYI.

[Gil Gunderson]

Quality of teams has to factor in here--when Bay was with the Pirates, they were so shitty that a replacement LF wasn't going to cost the Pirates games they were already losing.  When he was with the Red Sox, there was enough surrounding talent that Bay's contributions probably didn't influence their winning percentage that strongly.

That's not how it works.

From what I read, WAR calculated the # of wins the player would be expected to contribute above a generic/average replacement.  Maybe I misunderstood, but if that is the case, it'd make sense that a player's team would influence that stat.

As for UZR, it makes sense that an OF's rating would be affected by who plays the neighboring position(s).  It'll be interesting to see if a healthy Beltran affects Bay's rating.

So what's it like going through life never being wrong about anything?

I'm not saying I'm right--I didn't understand the full definition of the stats and why a player's team's quality didn't affect the WAR value of a player and was asking for clarity.

I'm just trying to learn, and focused/pointed questions are usually the best way to get the information you're lacking.

Normally questions are punctuated with question marks. Just FYI.

Ok, I LOLed at that.

[JD]

I used to get Gil Gunderson and CFiHP mixed up.  I don't anymore.  Aren't they both lawyers or law students or hockey fans or something?  I don't know why.  Who can remember those kinds of things?  Anyway...


my apologies, Gil.  It doesn't happen anymore.

[Yeti]

Quality of teams has to factor in here--when Bay was with the Pirates, they were so shitty that a replacement LF wasn't going to cost the Pirates games they were already losing.  When he was with the Red Sox, there was enough surrounding talent that Bay's contributions probably didn't influence their winning percentage that strongly.

That's not how it works.

From what I read, WAR calculated the # of wins the player would be expected to contribute above a generic/average replacement.  Maybe I misunderstood, but if that is the case, it'd make sense that a player's team would influence that stat.

As for UZR, it makes sense that an OF's rating would be affected by who plays the neighboring position(s).  It'll be interesting to see if a healthy Beltran affects Bay's rating.

So what's it like going through life never being wrong about anything?

I'm not saying I'm right--I didn't understand the full definition of the stats and why a player's team's quality didn't affect the WAR value of a player and was asking for clarity.

I'm just trying to learn, and focused/pointed questions are usually the best way to get the information you're lacking.

Normally questions are punctuated with question marks. Just FYI.

Ok, I LOLed at that.

He beat me to the punch... and his was much better phrased than mine was going to be

[Gil Gunderson]

I used to get Gil Gunderson and CFiHP mixed up.  I don't anymore.  Aren't they both lawyers or law students or hockey fans or something?  I don't know why.  Who can remember those kinds of things?  Anyway...


my apologies, Gil.  It doesn't happen anymore.

Apologies accepted, Captain Needa.

[Oleg]

I used to get Gil Gunderson and CFiHP mixed up.  I don't anymore.  Aren't they both lawyers or law students or hockey fans or something?  I don't know why.  Who can remember those kinds of things?  Anyway...


my apologies, Gil.  It doesn't happen anymore.

Me next!  Me next!  With whom do you get me mixed up?

[CubFaninHydePark]

I used to get Gil Gunderson and CFiHP mixed up.  I don't anymore.  Aren't they both lawyers or law students or hockey fans or something?  I don't know why.  Who can remember those kinds of things?  Anyway...


my apologies, Gil.  It doesn't happen anymore.

Me next!  Me next!  With whom do you get me mixed up?

[CBStew]

I used to get Gil Gunderson and CFiHP mixed up.  I don't anymore.  Aren't they both lawyers or law students or hockey fans or something?  I don't know why.  Who can remember those kinds of things?  Anyway...


my apologies, Gil.  It doesn't happen anymore.

Me next!  Me next!  With whom do you get me mixed up?

That, too, is an old joke.

[Powdered Toast Man]

Older than you?  Wakka, wakka, wakka!

It's a vicious cycle...

[BH]

Scott Eyre tells MLB.com's Todd Zolecki that he's retiring after 13 seasons in the majors. The Phillies had offered the lefty a minor league deal, but Eyre, who only wanted to pitch for the Phils, chose to retire instead. Eyre pitched for the White Sox, Blue Jays, Giants and Cubs before joining the Phillies midway through 2008.

rotoworld

[JD]

I used to get Gil Gunderson and CFiHP mixed up.  I don't anymore.  Aren't they both lawyers or law students or hockey fans or something?  I don't know why.  Who can remember those kinds of things?  Anyway...


my apologies, Gil.  It doesn't happen anymore.

Me next!  Me next!  With whom do you get me mixed up?

I don't understand that sentence.  Make it more simple, maybe?  And what was your old handle?  Because I did get you mixed up with someone.

[Internet Apex]

He was Bosoz72 and I used to get him mixed up with Luclaxwhoeverthefuck.

[JD]

He was Bosoz72 and I used to get him mixed up with Luclaxwhoeverthefuck.

Me, too.  That's weird.

[Powdered Toast Man]

According to Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune, the Cubs "plan to make a run" at free agent right-hander Ben Sheets.

Cubs general manager Jim Hendry reportedly spoke to Sheets' agent at the Winter Meetings in Indianapolis last month and sources have informed the Tribune that the the Cubs are one of the right-hander's "preferred destinations." If he's still asking for over $10 million annually on a two-year contract a marriage between the two sides won't work, but his demands should come down as spring training approaches.

If Hendry doesn't go astronomical on the contract, I have no problem with Ben Sheets.

[Oleg]

I have no diea where to put shit like this any more.

Cleveland Indians sign veteran Mark Grudzielanek to a minor-league deal.