2009 College Football Thread

[Slaky]

So who should care about how much a team beats another team by ...?

Anyone who's interested in figuring out who the best team is.  I understand the concerns about running up the score, but margin of victory is useful in determining how good a team is.  You really think that Iowa's two-point win over Michigan should be counted the same as if they would have won by 24?

Yeah, Iowa should get bonus points for needing to block two Northern Iowa field goals to win in the first week of the season.

The correct answer is: They should get bonus points because The Ghost Of Douche Rosello likes them a lot and fuck Florida that's why.

[Kermit, B.]

But really, why worry about this? The only thing that should matter is scraping the dumbass BCS and getting a fucking playoff. It's simple to do:

Don't you get it?  The whole SEASON is a playoff!

[Chuck to Chuck]

Yeah, Iowa should get bonus points for needing to block two Northern Iowa field goals to win in the first week of the season.

Iowa should get bonus points for hosting Northern Illinois a few years ago.

[ChuckD]

I feel dumber for having read this thread. And I say that as someone who probably read like 200 pages of the Primary/General Election Clusterfucks without batting an eye.

[Philberto]

But really, why worry about this? The only thing that should matter is scraping the dumbass BCS and getting a fucking playoff. It's simple to do:

Don't you get it?  The whole SEASON is a playoff!

Except the fact that most of the best teams play like 3 teams that are worth a shit during their 12 game season.

[Internet Apex]

I believe you once mentioned that he "stole" Bob Griese's Heisman trophy taco. I hate South Carolina Spurrier, if only for being the withered husk of Florida Spurrier, who used to pull the most batshit crazy plays out of his ass and make them work every time.

/suspended

Florida Steve Spurrier was pretty good.  After the train wreck the ball coach left with the Redskins, I think he deserves to coach a middle of the pack SEC team for eternity.
And lay off the Badgers on the Wofford scheduling.  That was a last minute replacement when VTech backed out of a home and home which was supposed to start this year and I think will take place in 2016. That's how much control you have over scheduling tougher non-conference opponents.  

I think he deserves the Congressional Medal of Honor for what he did to the Redskins.  Seriously, fuck the Redskins, and every other piece of shit who's ever been associated with that organization.

I'm a Redskins fan.  Can you show us on the doll where they touched you?

1986 & 1987.

Never forget.

Sadness.

I cried a little when I posted it. attended the previous game against Seattke, which was his last regular season game and they were honoring him pre-game

big brother called me a homo'd.

Awesome. Steve Spurrier talk always ends with something horrible like Walter Payton weighing 130 pounds and ever still the practical joker. And Huey tears up, his brother calls him a homo and etc. Fuck Steve Spurrier.

[SKO]

Actually when the BCS used to factor in margin of victory they didn't count anything past 21 points. So running up the score wasn't that big of a problem. But anything that goes against Iowa should be discounted. There's my caveat. They're gritting it out.  They're skating by in a conference that's in a historically bad slump, have no running game, and barely survived Northern Iowa and Arkansas State, but all of that is just a testament to how gritty and Big Ten footbaw they are. And that ALWAYS works in the postseason.

[Tony]

Actually when the BCS used to factor in margin of victory they didn't count anything past 21 points. So running up the score wasn't that big of a problem.

Oh. Well that makes sense.

[Internet Apex]

Actually when the BCS used to factor in margin of victory they didn't count anything past 21 points. So running up the score wasn't that big of a problem. But anything that goes against Iowa should be discounted. There's my caveat. They're gritting it out.  They're skating by in a conference that's in a historically bad slump, have no running game, and barely survived Northern Iowa and Arkansas State, but all of that is just a testament to how gritty and Big Ten footbaw they are. And that ALWAYS works in the postseason.

This is the best thing ever written about the Big Ten in the last 10 years. That's a historically bad slump, too.

[Slaky]

Actually when the BCS used to factor in margin of victory they didn't count anything past 21 points. So running up the score wasn't that big of a problem.

Oh. Well that makes sense.

SKO never fails to educate.

[air2300]

Iowa has played only one sub-.500 team -- Arkansas State -- and the Hawkeyes' opponents have a .633 winning percentage (38-22) that is by far the best of any team in ranked in the AP top 10

But that doesn't seem to matter for some reason.

And it's always funny how the SEC pole smokers talk about how tough their league is right up until one of their schools gets beat in a bowl game. Then it's just "they only beat a 6th place team."

I understand some of your point but are you really trying to say that Big Ten is as good as the SEC? Because you're smoking some awesome shit if you are.

My point is that people like to pile on the Big 10 because it supposedly sucks yet Florida gets to play sacks of shit like Arkansas, Mississippi State and Vanderbilt. Not to mention its dogshit non-conference schedule - Charleston Southern, Troy, Florida International and the shittiest team FSU has fielded in 30 years.

Meanwhile, Iowa's played a ranked FCS team and two BCS conference teams and gets to run a road conference schedule of Penn State, Wisconsin, Michigan State and Ohio State. And they don't get to play Illinois.

If Iowa runs the table they would most certainly deserve to be in the national championship game ahead of a one-loss SEC team.

Vanderbilt went 7-6 last year and finished ahead of the South Carolina team the Hawkeyes beat. Arkansas is 3-4 with 3 losses to ranked teams. They are hardly anymore of a sack of dogshit than any of the mid-tier Big Ten teams Iowa gets to play. And Northern Iowa isn't ranked.

So if the mid-level SEC teams are, in your words "hardly anymore of a sack of dogshit than any of the mid-tier Big Ten teams", then I guess the SEC isn't that much better than the Big 10.

Actually I'm saying that a Florida victory over a 3-4 Arkansas team with three losses to ranked teams is hardly less legitimate than an Iowa victory over a 4-4 Michigan State team that's lost to three unranked teams and had half its wins come against Montana State and Northwestern, no matter how "gritty" said win was. I'm also saying that the fact that the Big Ten hasn't had a winning bowl record since 2002 while the SEC hasn't had a Losing one since that same year probably makes the SEC better. Or the fact that it has a 60% winning % in bowl games since 1995 vs. 45% is probably a decent sample size proving the Big Ten inferior to the SEC. Or the fact that four of the last six national champions have been SEC teams (with two of those championships being blowouts of the outright Big Ten champion) kinda adds credence to that fact. But go ahead and twist my words because you know Iowa is better since their opponents have a better winning % since Wisconsin can beat Wofford.

SEC! SEC! SEC!  

Guh. I'm not even an SEC partisan. I like Florida because back when I was 8 Illinois really blew (believe it or not), and Florida kicked a lot of ass with Danny Wuerrffel and had the same team colors as Illinois, so I figured it was okay. Plus Florida Spurrier was a diabolical genius, whereas SC Spurrier just looks like he'd rather be golfing. So since then I've been a bandwagon fan of the Gators. But other than that the rest of that conference has obnoxious, redneck fans (ELL ESS YOUUU) and I'd sooner see any Big Ten, Big 12, or PAC 10 team win the title if logic dictated that those teams deserved a shot at it over the SEC champion. But every major statistic (beside BCS computer rankings which overrate strength of schedule based on w-l records, as mentioned) is in their favor, and I side with the numbers.

Yea, Spurrier changed the way football is played in the SEC.  It's still weird to read someone actually compliment Spurrier.  I am more used to APEX style "Fuck Spurrier".   

[CT III]

I believe you once mentioned that he "stole" Bob Griese's Heisman trophy taco. I hate South Carolina Spurrier, if only for being the withered husk of Florida Spurrier, who used to pull the most batshit crazy plays out of his ass and make them work every time.

/suspended

Florida Steve Spurrier was pretty good.  After the train wreck the ball coach left with the Redskins, I think he deserves to coach a middle of the pack SEC team for eternity.
And lay off the Badgers on the Wofford scheduling.  That was a last minute replacement when VTech backed out of a home and home which was supposed to start this year and I think will take place in 2016. That's how much control you have over scheduling tougher non-conference opponents. 

I think he deserves the Congressional Medal of Honor for what he did to the Redskins.  Seriously, fuck the Redskins, and every other piece of shit who's ever been associated with that organization.

I'm a Redskins fan.  Can you show us on the doll where they touched you?

World, you seem like a nice guy.  I beg you to reconsider your allegiance.

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2009/10/12/cheap-seats-daily-exclusive-bogus-hogette-declares-war-on-real-hogettes/

[JD]

I believe you once mentioned that he "stole" Bob Griese's Heisman trophy taco. I hate South Carolina Spurrier, if only for being the withered husk of Florida Spurrier, who used to pull the most batshit crazy plays out of his ass and make them work every time.

/suspended

Florida Steve Spurrier was pretty good.  After the train wreck the ball coach left with the Redskins, I think he deserves to coach a middle of the pack SEC team for eternity.
And lay off the Badgers on the Wofford scheduling.  That was a last minute replacement when VTech backed out of a home and home which was supposed to start this year and I think will take place in 2016. That's how much control you have over scheduling tougher non-conference opponents.  

I think he deserves the Congressional Medal of Honor for what he did to the Redskins.  Seriously, fuck the Redskins, and every other piece of shit who's ever been associated with that organization.

I'm a Redskins fan.  Can you show us on the doll where they touched you?

1986 & 1987.

Never forget.

Sadness.

I cried a little when I posted it. attended the previous game against Seattke, which was his last regular season game and they were honoring him pre-game

big brother called me a homo'd.

Awesome. Steve Spurrier talk always ends with something horrible like Walter Payton weighing 130 pounds and ever still the practical joker. And Huey tears up, his brother calls him a homo and etc. Fuck Steve Spurrier.

Spurrier's awesome.  Well, he use-tuh-be(used to be).

[air2300]

Yeah, because encouraging teams to run up the score in hopes of securing a higher ranking is the sportsman-way to do things.

Who cares?

Because it's not entertaining to watch Goliath pummel David. A win against a small school doesn't prove anything no matter how many points they score.

Yep, why should Florida get bonus points for humiliating Florida International while somebody else is penalized for a close victory over a conference rival.

So, do you think undefeated Iowa would deserve to play in the championship game over undefeated Florida/Alabama and Texas?

[CT III]

Yeah, because encouraging teams to run up the score in hopes of securing a higher ranking is the sportsman-way to do things.

Who cares?

Because it's not entertaining to watch Goliath pummel David. A win against a small school doesn't prove anything no matter how many points they score.

Yep, why should Florida get bonus points for humiliating Florida International while somebody else is penalized for a close victory over a conference rival.

So, do you think undefeated Iowa would deserve to play in the championship game over undefeated Florida/Alabama and Texas?

Yes.