2009-10 Bears Season: Utler, 'Uther 'Uckers

[Internet Apex]

I'm just glad they didn't say they were going to "give Omiyale one last chance to redeem himself," have him flatten some shitty Brown all day, save his job, and then get his ass handed to him against Arizona. Get Beekman in now, let him get comfortable against Cleveland, have a (marginally) improved line ready for Arizona.

He could have just said it last week.  1 week too late, at least it didn't matter.

And did I read that Beekman played all 16 games last year?  I'll confess I didn't know that, and actually because I didn't hear his name much and didn't remember him playing--which for an O lineman (especially guards) would imply that he's done his job--I'm suddenly RETROANGRY that they apparently had decided to try to fix what wasn't broken.  Nice move, Jerry.

Not broken? That line was not very good last year. They had the same short-yardage problems they have now and on 3rd & Long KO was on a buffet table with big sweaty men sticking forks in his ass.

[SKO]

I'm just glad they didn't say they were going to "give Omiyale one last chance to redeem himself," have him flatten some shitty Brown all day, save his job, and then get his ass handed to him against Arizona. Get Beekman in now, let him get comfortable against Cleveland, have a (marginally) improved line ready for Arizona.

He could have just said it last week.  1 week too late, at least it didn't matter.

And did I read that Beekman played all 16 games last year?  I'll confess I didn't know that, and actually because I didn't hear his name much and didn't remember him playing--which for an O lineman (especially guards) would imply that he's done his job--I'm suddenly RETROANGRY that they apparently had decided to try to fix what wasn't broken.  Nice move, Jerry.

Not broken? That line was not very good last year. They had the same short-yardage problems they have now and on 3rd & Long KO was on a buffet table with big sweaty men sticking forks in his ass.

I think he's more referring to the specific change of Beekman for Omiyale, not the attempt to upgrade the line in general. That line sucked, but the tackles were more of a problem than the guards, as Beekman and Garza actually graded out as the best two players on the line. So instead of upgrading from John Tait and Fatty St. Clair, they replaced Beekman, who wasn't the problem, with a crappier alternative, signed an immobile old hack to play left tackle, and then moved Chris Williams from his natural position to right tackle, all while Kreutz got a year older. So yeah, great offseason.

[MAD]

I'm just glad they didn't say they were going to "give Omiyale one last chance to redeem himself," have him flatten some shitty Brown all day, save his job, and then get his ass handed to him against Arizona. Get Beekman in now, let him get comfortable against Cleveland, have a (marginally) improved line ready for Arizona.

He could have just said it last week.  1 week too late, at least it didn't matter.

And did I read that Beekman played all 16 games last year?  I'll confess I didn't know that, and actually because I didn't hear his name much and didn't remember him playing--which for an O lineman (especially guards) would imply that he's done his job--I'm suddenly RETROANGRY that they apparently had decided to try to fix what wasn't broken.  Nice move, Jerry.

Not broken? That line was not very good last year. They had the same short-yardage problems they have now and on 3rd & Long KO was on a buffet table with big sweaty men sticking forks in his ass.

I disagree.  Forte had bigger holes and Kyle Ortman was not abused like Cutler's been.  Hell, even Rex Grossman, who would often fall down just by moving, managed to stay upright in his few games.  This can and should be all be looked up by someone who's not us and then I'll meet you on the hill.

[Internet Apex]

I'm just glad they didn't say they were going to "give Omiyale one last chance to redeem himself," have him flatten some shitty Brown all day, save his job, and then get his ass handed to him against Arizona. Get Beekman in now, let him get comfortable against Cleveland, have a (marginally) improved line ready for Arizona.

He could have just said it last week.  1 week too late, at least it didn't matter.

And did I read that Beekman played all 16 games last year?  I'll confess I didn't know that, and actually because I didn't hear his name much and didn't remember him playing--which for an O lineman (especially guards) would imply that he's done his job--I'm suddenly RETROANGRY that they apparently had decided to try to fix what wasn't broken.  Nice move, Jerry.

Not broken? That line was not very good last year. They had the same short-yardage problems they have now and on 3rd & Long KO was on a buffet table with big sweaty men sticking forks in his ass.

I disagree.  Forte had bigger holes and Kyle Ortman was not abused like Cutler's been.  Hell, even Rex Grossman, who would often fall down just by moving, managed to stay upright in his few games.  This can and should be all be looked up by someone who's not us and then I'll meet you on the hill.

poss. hje

[Brownie]

Do teams really scheme around bad personnel and wouldn't good teams at least work under the assumption that if there are better personnel options that their opponents will eventually figure it out and switch to it? How will not telling anyone that Beekman and Harris are starting and Hillenmeyer and Roach are switching positions give the Bears any kind of edge? Was that the problem the last few years when Lovie was adamant that "Rex was our quarterback?"

Sure they do. They will probably attack a bad cornerback, a bad part of the oline, or a defensive end who can't play the run until the opponent switches up. Atlanta probably saw that Nick Roach couldn't handle the calls at MLB so they went no huddle and exploited it.

Atlanta KNEW that Hillenmeyer wasn't going to play, so Roach was it. They didn't know that Lovie and Turner and Hiestand were dumbasses and that Omiyale would continue to run out there and get beat. Cincinnati might have considered that someone on the Bears might have thought, "Hey, Hillenmeyer's better than Roach at MLB and Roach's better than Hillenmeyer at SLB, so maybe they'll swap positions."

It's not a case of, "The corners are bad, and their bench is thin, so let's keep throwing at shitty corner."

[Internet Apex]

Do teams really scheme around bad personnel and wouldn't good teams at least work under the assumption that if there are better personnel options that their opponents will eventually figure it out and switch to it? How will not telling anyone that Beekman and Harris are starting and Hillenmeyer and Roach are switching positions give the Bears any kind of edge? Was that the problem the last few years when Lovie was adamant that "Rex was our quarterback?"

Sure they do. They will probably attack a bad cornerback, a bad part of the oline, or a defensive end who can't play the run until the opponent switches up. Atlanta probably saw that Nick Roach couldn't handle the calls at MLB so they went no huddle and exploited it.

Atlanta KNEW that Hillenmeyer wasn't going to play, so Roach was it. They didn't know that Lovie and Turner and Hiestand were dumbasses and that Omiyale would continue to run out there and get beat. Cincinnati might have considered that someone on the Bears might have thought, "Hey, Hillenmeyer's better than Roach at MLB and Roach's better than Hillenmeyer at SLB, so maybe they'll swap positions."

It's not a case of, "The corners are bad, and their bench is thin, so let's keep throwing at shitty corner."

But to be truthfully frank, it also was that.

[BH]

Mulligan goes off on our coaches.

[R-V]

Mulligan goes off on our coaches.

Insightful comment from thedmo:

Ron Turner, meet Jason McKie. He's your fullback. Has yet to carry the ball all year. You see, the one-back offense you use (apparently because, as much as you hate to do it, even you concede you have to run the ball, at least in conventional situations). Good blocker. Take a look at the records of Matt Suhey and Walter Payton for a good example of a balanced run game. I know, you like to throw the ball, all the time, to everybody. Heck, I haven't forgotten that your first play last year was a pass to an eligible tackle. You'd probably have cutler throw to Lovie if you could figure out a way to make that happen. But it doesn't work. And, if you don't figure it out, neither will you.

[PenFoe]

Mulligan goes off on our coaches.

Insightful comment from thedmo:

Ron Turner, meet Jason McKie. He's your fullback. Has yet to carry the ball all year. You see, the one-back offense you use (apparently because, as much as you hate to do it, even you concede you have to run the ball, at least in conventional situations). Good blocker. Take a look at the records of Matt Suhey and Walter Payton for a good example of a balanced run game. I know, you like to throw the ball, all the time, to everybody. Heck, I haven't forgotten that your first play last year was a pass to an eligible tackle. You'd probably have cutler throw to Lovie if you could figure out a way to make that happen. But it doesn't work. And, if you don't figure it out, neither will you.

Yes?
Go on...

[Dr. Nguyen Van Falk]

Mulligan goes off on our coaches.

Insightful comment from thedmo:

Ron Turner, meet Jason McKie. He's your fullback. Has yet to carry the ball all year. You see, the one-back offense you use (apparently because, as much as you hate to do it, even you concede you have to run the ball, at least in conventional situations). Good blocker. Take a look at the records of Matt Suhey and Walter Payton for a good example of a balanced run game. I know, you like to throw the ball, all the time, to everybody. Heck, I haven't forgotten that your first play last year was a pass to an eligible tackle. You'd probably have cutler throw to Lovie if you could figure out a way to make that happen. But it doesn't work. And, if you don't figure it out, neither will you.

Yes?
Go on...

If you can't figure it out, Pen, neither will you.

[SKO]

Mulligan goes off on our coaches.

Insightful comment from thedmo:

Ron Turner, meet Jason McKie. He's your fullback. Has yet to carry the ball all year. You see, the one-back offense you use (apparently because, as much as you hate to do it, even you concede you have to run the ball, at least in conventional situations). Good blocker. Take a look at the records of Matt Suhey and Walter Payton for a good example of a balanced run game. I know, you like to throw the ball, all the time, to everybody. Heck, I haven't forgotten that your first play last year was a pass to an eligible tackle. You'd probably have cutler throw to Lovie if you could figure out a way to make that happen. But it doesn't work. And, if you don't figure it out, neither will you.

Jason McKie blows.

[R-V]

This offensive line is fucking awful. Pathetic that Beekman immediately became one of their two best linemen.

[Slaky]

This offensive line is fucking awful. Pathetic that Beekman immediately became one of their two best linemen.

Jay Cutler will be dead by December. This team blows.

[Slaky]

I think I saw T-Pain on the Burrs sideline. So that's nice.

[Waco Kid]

This offensive line is fucking awful. Pathetic that Beekman immediately became one of their two best linemen.

Jay Cutler will be dead by December. This team blows.

At least we aren't fans of the Browns. The Browns are awful.