2009-10 Bears Season: Utler, 'Uther 'Uckers

[JD]

They've already invested so much in Cutler, just give him what he wants.

Jerseys with collars so he can "pop" 'em?

Like this?

No.  That jersey's not pink.

[JD]

From the never-sleeping Adam Schefter on Twitter:

Bears contact USC offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates about becoming their offensive coordinator. Bates worked in Denver with Jay Cutler.

Well, I'm sure his asking price won't be high, which is a plus. And he's certainly a better option than Mike Martz or Charlie Weis. Jesus Christ, if they hired Mike Martz I'd start molding Cutler's bodycast.

You explained why Martz was bad to me. Why's Weis bad? Besides his frontbutt weighing more than BH. (I'm not an advocate of Weis. Just curious. Someone earlier said give Jay what he wants... I'm not opposed to that notion at all)

Weis' offense is nothing special. The Patriots actually improved after he left when McDaniels added elements of the spread to it. It's just a modified West Coast offense, and it's not particularly well-suited to Cutler's skills.  The biggest problem, however, is that he thinks he's some kind of guru and will naturally value "the system" over the players, meaning he won't adapt and he'll point fingers. That's not a good thing for a team with a quarterback that also has some confrontational tendencies.

Alright. Fair enough. So, fuck Charlie

Crisis averted (assuming you thought this would have been a bad move).

Weis and Haley in the same room? My god, the undeserved sense of accomplishment on that staff is mind-bottling.

That's where my mind grapes go.

[Eli]

Weis and Haley in the same room? My god, the undeserved sense of accomplishment on that staff is mind-bottling.

So Weis' three Super Bowl rings shouldn't count toward a sense of accomplishment?

[Pre]

Weis and Haley in the same room? My god, the undeserved sense of accomplishment on that staff is mind-bottling.

So Weis' three Super Bowl rings shouldn't count toward a sense of accomplishment?

All depends on whether you think he contributed to the team or was a high paid water boy.

[SKO]

Weis and Haley in the same room? My god, the undeserved sense of accomplishment on that staff is mind-bottling.

So Weis' three Super Bowl rings shouldn't count toward a sense of accomplishment?

Yeah. Romeo Crennel and Eric Mangini should be proud of themselves, too. Given that the Patriots have more or less gone on the same without them (except for Weis' offense, which was completely overhauled into the closest thing the NFL has to a pure spread offense and became the most prolific offense in NFL history without him), and all of their successes are the result of Belichick and an outstanding draft strategy, and that all three have failed to accomplish anything of note on their own, I'd say that "Weis'" Super Bowl rings add up to a fat load of nothing.

[CBStew]

The aftermath of this season is like watching the French Revolution unfold.   We are the crowd watching the tumbrels roll by.

Speaking from experience?

Is that an old joke?

[flannj]

Yeah. Romeo Crennel and Eric Mangini should be proud of themselves, too. Given that the Patriots have more or less gone on the same without them (except for Weis' offense, which was completely overhauled into the closest thing the NFL has to a pure spread offense and became the most prolific offense in NFL history without him), and all of their successes are the result of Belichick and an outstanding draft strategy, and that all three have failed to accomplish anything of note on their own, I'd say that "Weis'" Super Bowl rings add up to a fat load of nothing.

Going with the obvious here.

[Slaky]

The aftermath of this season is like watching the French Revolution unfold.   We are the crowd watching the tumbrels roll by.

Speaking from experience?

Is that an old joke?

Yeah, I've heard it hundreds of times.

[Waco Kid]

Weis and Haley in the same room? My god, the undeserved sense of accomplishment on that staff is mind-bottling.

So Weis' three Super Bowl rings shouldn't count toward a sense of accomplishment?

All depends on whether you think he contributed to the team or was a high paid water boy.

Weis along with the rest of them were riding on the coattails of Bill Belichick.

[Quality Start Machine]

The Bears don't need a system, they need blocking.

Or perhaps they need both. Tell me, oh mighty sage.

Seriously, if they don't revamp the O-line, any "system" they put in place is useless.

[Yeti]

Not sure how accurate it is, but que SKO ANGER

Mike Martz will be the new offensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears. 

Andy Maisonneuve, Bears beat reporter for the "Bearly legal Show" on 670TheScore.com , has confirmed with an inside source in the Bears organization that Martz is getting the job.

"He has not signed the dotted line yet, however my sources tell me it's a done deal" states Maisonneuve.

[Eli]

except for Weis' offense, which was completely overhauled into the closest thing the NFL has to a pure spread offense and became the most prolific offense in NFL history without him after they added Randy Moss and Wes Welker

Someone to throw to'd.

Not saying you're entirely wrong, but I don't think you can completely discredit a guy who was the offensive coordinator for three Super Bowl winners.  He's a terrible head coach for a lot of reasons, but I think he knows how to run an offense pretty well.

After re-reading this, it has all of the factual backing of a Fork argument, but I'm going to post it anyway.

[Slaky]

Not sure how accurate it is, but que SKO ANGER

Mike Martz will be the new offensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears. 

Andy Maisonneuve, Bears beat reporter for the "Bearly legal Show" on 670TheScore.com , has confirmed with an inside source in the Bears organization that Martz is getting the job.

"He has not signed the dotted line yet, however my sources tell me it's a done deal" states Maisonneuve.

So do the Bears still get off the bus running the football? If Martz is the guy, I would expect the Bears to go after a receiver or two, no? They'd need someone else besides the current crop - there aren't five capable receivers on this roster.

Jesus - this is all too weird. Does anyone run the 5-wide shit anymore?

[Tony]

Not sure how accurate it is, but que SKO ANGER

Mike Martz will be the new offensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears. 

Andy Maisonneuve, Bears beat reporter for the "Bearly legal Show" on 670TheScore.com , has confirmed with an inside source in the Bears organization that Martz is getting the job.

"He has not signed the dotted line yet, however my sources tell me it's a done deal" states Maisonneuve.

So do the Bears still get off the bus running the football? If Martz is the guy, I would expect the Bears to go after a receiver or two, no? They'd need someone else besides the current crop - there aren't five capable receivers on this roster.

Jesus - this is all too weird. Does anyone run the 5-wide shit anymore?

Ted Phillips denied this on the Score this morning. God I hope he wasn't lying.

[Yeti]

Not sure how accurate it is, but que SKO ANGER

Mike Martz will be the new offensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears. 

Andy Maisonneuve, Bears beat reporter for the "Bearly legal Show" on 670TheScore.com , has confirmed with an inside source in the Bears organization that Martz is getting the job.

"He has not signed the dotted line yet, however my sources tell me it's a done deal" states Maisonneuve.

So do the Bears still get off the bus running the football? If Martz is the guy, I would expect the Bears to go after a receiver or two, no? They'd need someone else besides the current crop - there aren't five capable receivers on this roster.

Jesus - this is all too weird. Does anyone run the 5-wide shit anymore?

Ted Phillips denied this on the Score this morning. God I hope he wasn't lying.

I only heard part of his talk.. The part I heard was entertaining to say the least. When talking about Lovie not changing his scheme, he alluded to the fact that changing the scheme only means going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and that's it.