I admit it...

[Quality Start Machine]

Something that will always be a thing though is trades. 

Yeah, that's the random and unpredictable thing. They're connected to every David Price trade rumor, which could mean a rotation headed up next year by Price, Samardzija and maybe Mark Appel. That's a lot of ifs, but that would certainly speed things up.

They passed on Appel last year for Almora. They might do the same thing this spring for Clint Frazier.

No, they won't.

With draft pick spending capped, who's to say Appel makes it past Houston? Anyway, I said "might". and based on the little I've seen of each, I actually prefer Mantea to Appel anyway, mainly because he's a lefty. Their upsides are comparable.

[Eli]

Something that will always be a thing though is trades. 

Yeah, that's the random and unpredictable thing. They're connected to every David Price trade rumor, which could mean a rotation headed up next year by Price, Samardzija and maybe Mark Appel. That's a lot of ifs, but that would certainly speed things up.

They passed on Appel last year for Almora. They might do the same thing this spring for Clint Frazier.

No, they won't.

With draft pick spending capped, who's to say Appel makes it past Houston? Anyway, I said "might". and based on the little I've seen of each, I actually prefer Mantea to Appel anyway, mainly because he's a lefty. Their upsides are comparable.

Unless something changes drastically, I think the Cubs will end up with Appel or Gray. I could see Houston going with one of the HS hitters instead of Appel so they can save some cash and spend it on an overslot guy. Same thing they did with Correa last year.

As for Manea, he's been pretty disappointing this year. He might slide out of the top 10 if he doesn't turn it around.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

I'm afraid I'm not sure what your point is, Eli.

That's because I don't have one and I never have in this thread.

There's nothing else that the Cubs should be doing that they aren't. I'm mostly irritated Hendry (or the Tribune's demand that Hendry spend recklessly, depending on what you believe) left them in such a hole that this sort of total tear-down is necessary. I think most of us are rational, smart people who understand what's happening here. But at the same time, it'd be fun if the Cubes didn't suck. And it'd fun if they didn't suck next year, too. That's all I was saying.

Also, on some smaller level, I was engaging in a minor bit of Paul Tanner better-for-having-trolled behavior. But hey, people are posting at Desipio again!

You would get utterly PWNED at Variety, brother--and don't even get me started on the C.H.U.D. Forums.

[PenFoe]

I'm afraid I'm not sure what your point is, Eli.

That's because I don't have one and I never have in this thread.

There's nothing else that the Cubs should be doing that they aren't. I'm mostly irritated Hendry (or the Tribune's demand that Hendry spend recklessly, depending on what you believe) left them in such a hole that this sort of total tear-down is necessary. I think most of us are rational, smart people who understand what's happening here. But at the same time, it'd be fun if the Cubes didn't suck. And it'd fun if they didn't suck next year, too. That's all I was saying.

Also, on some smaller level, I was engaging in a minor bit of Paul Tanner better-for-having-trolled behavior. But hey, people are posting at Desipio again!

You would get utterly PWNED at Variety, brother--and don't even get me started on the C.H.U.D. Forums.

Is anyone actually admitting anything? 

:(

[Quality Start Machine]

I'm afraid I'm not sure what your point is, Eli.

That's because I don't have one and I never have in this thread.

There's nothing else that the Cubs should be doing that they aren't. I'm mostly irritated Hendry (or the Tribune's demand that Hendry spend recklessly, depending on what you believe) left them in such a hole that this sort of total tear-down is necessary. I think most of us are rational, smart people who understand what's happening here. But at the same time, it'd be fun if the Cubes didn't suck. And it'd fun if they didn't suck next year, too. That's all I was saying.

Also, on some smaller level, I was engaging in a minor bit of Paul Tanner better-for-having-trolled behavior. But hey, people are posting at Desipio again!

You would get utterly PWNED at Variety, brother--and don't even get me started on the C.H.U.D. Forums.

Is anyone actually admitting anything? 

:(

I killed an elk.

[Quality Start Machine]

Something that will always be a thing though is trades. 

Yeah, that's the random and unpredictable thing. They're connected to every David Price trade rumor, which could mean a rotation headed up next year by Price, Samardzija and maybe Mark Appel. That's a lot of ifs, but that would certainly speed things up.

They passed on Appel last year for Almora. They might do the same thing this spring for Clint Frazier.

No, they won't.

With draft pick spending capped, who's to say Appel makes it past Houston? Anyway, I said "might". and based on the little I've seen of each, I actually prefer Mantea to Appel anyway, mainly because he's a lefty. Their upsides are comparable.

Unless something changes drastically, I think the Cubs will end up with Appel or Gray. I could see Houston going with one of the HS hitters instead of Appel so they can save some cash and spend it on an overslot guy. Same thing they did with Correa last year.

As for Manea, he's been pretty disappointing this year. He might slide out of the top 10 if he doesn't turn it around.

The Manaea with the 1.57 ERA and the 72K/20BB and in 57.1 innings? That guys are hitting .195 against? He's 5-3, and two of his losses were each times where the Sycamores got shut out on two hits. Maybe that means the Cubs can get him on the cheap.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

I'm afraid I'm not sure what your point is, Eli.

That's because I don't have one and I never have in this thread.

There's nothing else that the Cubs should be doing that they aren't. I'm mostly irritated Hendry (or the Tribune's demand that Hendry spend recklessly, depending on what you believe) left them in such a hole that this sort of total tear-down is necessary. I think most of us are rational, smart people who understand what's happening here. But at the same time, it'd be fun if the Cubes didn't suck. And it'd fun if they didn't suck next year, too. That's all I was saying.

Also, on some smaller level, I was engaging in a minor bit of Paul Tanner better-for-having-trolled behavior. But hey, people are posting at Desipio again!

You would get utterly PWNED at Variety, brother--and don't even get me started on the C.H.U.D. Forums.

Is anyone actually admitting anything? 

:(

Fine.

I think Joe Buck's a good play-by-play broadcaster.

[PenFoe]

I'm afraid I'm not sure what your point is, Eli.

That's because I don't have one and I never have in this thread.

There's nothing else that the Cubs should be doing that they aren't. I'm mostly irritated Hendry (or the Tribune's demand that Hendry spend recklessly, depending on what you believe) left them in such a hole that this sort of total tear-down is necessary. I think most of us are rational, smart people who understand what's happening here. But at the same time, it'd be fun if the Cubes didn't suck. And it'd fun if they didn't suck next year, too. That's all I was saying.

Also, on some smaller level, I was engaging in a minor bit of Paul Tanner better-for-having-trolled behavior. But hey, people are posting at Desipio again!

You would get utterly PWNED at Variety, brother--and don't even get me started on the C.H.U.D. Forums.

Is anyone actually admitting anything? 

:(

Fine.

I think Joe Buck's a good play-by-play broadcaster.

I think Edwin Jackson was a stupid signing.

[Eli]

The Manaea with the 1.57 ERA and the 72K/20BB and in 57.1 innings? That guys are hitting .195 against?

Yeah, that's the one.

[Quality Start Machine]

The Manaea with the 1.57 ERA and the 72K/20BB and in 57.1 innings? That guys are hitting .195 against?

Yeah, that's the one.

Yeah. He's real good. Only way he's not top 5 is if Boras spooks too many GMs. And EpHoyStink were willing to deal with him last year on Almora. But back to my original point, they might do what they did last year, go positional with their 1st round pick, then drill for pitching depth in the later rounds.

[Internet Apex]

The Manaea with the 1.57 ERA and the 72K/20BB and in 57.1 innings? That guys are hitting .195 against?

Yeah, that's the one.

Yeah. He's real good. Only way he's not top 5 is if Boras spooks too many GMs. And EpHoyStink were willing to deal with him last year on Almora. But back to my original point, they might do what they did last year, go positional with their 1st round pick, then drill for pitching depth in the later rounds.

Racist.

Eli admitted to trolling this entire messageboard after he trolled this entire messageboard in the I admit it... thread. That's inspired work. I'm glad these young children were around to read it.

[J. Walter Weatherman]

The Manaea with the 1.57 ERA and the 72K/20BB and in 57.1 innings? That guys are hitting .195 against?

Yeah, that's the one.

Yeah. He's real good. Only way he's not top 5 is if Boras spooks too many GMs. And EpHoyStink were willing to deal with him last year on Almora. But back to my original point, they might do what they did last year, go positional with their 1st round pick, then drill for pitching depth in the later rounds.

I get that first round position players are generally better bets than first round pitchers, but isn't pitching the far greater need?

[J. Walter Weatherman]

The Manaea with the 1.57 ERA and the 72K/20BB and in 57.1 innings? That guys are hitting .195 against?

Yeah, that's the one.

Yeah. He's real good. Only way he's not top 5 is if Boras spooks too many GMs. And EpHoyStink were willing to deal with him last year on Almora. But back to my original point, they might do what they did last year, go positional with their 1st round pick, then drill for pitching depth in the later rounds.

Racist.

Eli admitted to trolling this entire messageboard after he trolled this entire messageboard in the I admit it... thread. That's inspired work. I'm glad these young children were around to read it.

Authentic frontier gibberish?

[Internet Apex]

The Manaea with the 1.57 ERA and the 72K/20BB and in 57.1 innings? That guys are hitting .195 against?

Yeah, that's the one.

Yeah. He's real good. Only way he's not top 5 is if Boras spooks too many GMs. And EpHoyStink were willing to deal with him last year on Almora. But back to my original point, they might do what they did last year, go positional with their 1st round pick, then drill for pitching depth in the later rounds.

Racist.

Eli admitted to trolling this entire messageboard after he trolled this entire messageboard in the I admit it... thread. That's inspired work. I'm glad these young children were around to read it.

Authentic frontier gibberish?

J. Walter Weatherman is right!

[Slaky]

The Manaea with the 1.57 ERA and the 72K/20BB and in 57.1 innings? That guys are hitting .195 against?

Yeah, that's the one.

Yeah. He's real good. Only way he's not top 5 is if Boras spooks too many GMs. And EpHoyStink were willing to deal with him last year on Almora. But back to my original point, they might do what they did last year, go positional with their 1st round pick, then drill for pitching depth in the later rounds.

I get that first round position players are generally better bets than first round pitchers, but isn't pitching the far greater need?

I think they've openly admitted they're going pitching with their first pick. If they don't that means they're liars or Bryce Harper II is available.