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Gilgamesh

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #4890 on: June 28, 2012, 10:12:28 AM »
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on June 28, 2012, 10:11:40 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 28, 2012, 09:22:09 AM
Quote from: R-V on June 28, 2012, 09:20:52 AM
The most shocking aspect of this - Gil was.....right?

@SCOTUSblog CJ Roberts' fifth #SCOTUS vote saved the #ACA.

SUCK IT, BONERS!!!

The Medicaid expansion was struck down, however, so poor people have more liberty this morning than they did yesterday!!

Gil said that it would be a 6-3 decision.  We can't give him credit for being right.

I'm ready to die on this hill.

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This is so bad, I'd root for the Orioles over this fucking team, but I can't. Because they're a fucking drug and you can't kick it and they'll never win anything and they'll always suck, but it'll always be sunny at Wrigley and there will be tits and ivy and an old scoreboard and fucking Chads.

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #4891 on: June 28, 2012, 10:17:51 AM »
This is so bad, I'd root for the Orioles over this fucking team, but I can't. Because they're a fucking drug and you can't kick it and they'll never win anything and they'll always suck, but it'll always be sunny at Wrigley and there will be tits and ivy and an old scoreboard and fucking Chads.

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #4892 on: June 28, 2012, 10:18:25 AM »
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on June 28, 2012, 10:11:40 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 28, 2012, 09:22:09 AM
Quote from: R-V on June 28, 2012, 09:20:52 AM
The most shocking aspect of this - Gil was.....right?

@SCOTUSblog CJ Roberts' fifth #SCOTUS vote saved the #ACA.

SUCK IT, BONERS!!!

The Medicaid expansion was struck down, however, so poor people have more liberty this morning than they did yesterday!!

Gil said that it would be a 6-3 decision.  We can't give him credit for being right.

I'm ready to die on this hill.

I'm ready to lie about winning 20 medals on the hill with you.
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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #4893 on: June 28, 2012, 10:51:49 AM »
So... what part of your life can Congress not regulate through onerous taxes?

Roberts' ruling isn't outlandish, but he's not exactly saying it's good policy.

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #4894 on: June 28, 2012, 11:01:39 AM »
Quote from: Brownie on June 28, 2012, 10:51:49 AM
So... what part of your life can Congress not regulate through onerous taxes?

Roberts' ruling isn't outlandish, but he's not exactly saying it's good policy.

Well, definitely broccoli-eating now.

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This is so bad, I'd root for the Orioles over this fucking team, but I can't. Because they're a fucking drug and you can't kick it and they'll never win anything and they'll always suck, but it'll always be sunny at Wrigley and there will be tits and ivy and an old scoreboard and fucking Chads.

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #4895 on: June 28, 2012, 11:17:08 AM »
Behold the spectre of liberal fascist tyranny...

This is so bad, I'd root for the Orioles over this fucking team, but I can't. Because they're a fucking drug and you can't kick it and they'll never win anything and they'll always suck, but it'll always be sunny at Wrigley and there will be tits and ivy and an old scoreboard and fucking Chads.

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #4896 on: June 28, 2012, 11:22:16 AM »
Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 28, 2012, 11:17:08 AM
Behold the spectre of liberal fascist tyranny...


If the man is forcing it down my throat, maybe that'll be the only way I don't have the diet of a fat 7 year old

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #4897 on: June 28, 2012, 11:53:50 AM »
Quote from: Brownie on June 28, 2012, 10:51:49 AM
So... what part of your life can Congress not regulate through onerous taxes?

Roberts' ruling isn't outlandish, but he's not exactly saying it's good policy.

Roberts opinion might as well have been written by the RNC:


  • He overturns the dormant commerce clause (in dicta but its pretty clear), which will serve as a major limitation on government action
  • but he doesn't overturn the individual mandate [which would have energized the Obama base], allowing it to stand under the power to tax [so now the ACA is purely a 'tax increase']


quite ingenious really
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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #4898 on: June 28, 2012, 11:57:28 AM »
Quote from: thehawk on June 28, 2012, 11:53:50 AM
Quote from: Brownie on June 28, 2012, 10:51:49 AM
So... what part of your life can Congress not regulate through onerous taxes?

Roberts' ruling isn't outlandish, but he's not exactly saying it's good policy.

Roberts opinion might as well have been written by the RNC:


  • He overturns the dormant commerce clause (in dicta but its pretty clear), which will serve as a major limitation on government action
  • but he doesn't overturn the individual mandate [which would have energized the Obama base], allowing it to stand under the power to tax [so now the ACA is purely a 'tax increase']


quite ingenious really

This is what I figured he'd do: find a way to limit commerce clause expansion (which has always been a conservative boogeyman), but support the law and preserve the Court's (and his) legacy.

It's amazing.  He achieved one of the biggest conservative judicial goals in over half a century and about 50 people realize it.
This is so bad, I'd root for the Orioles over this fucking team, but I can't. Because they're a fucking drug and you can't kick it and they'll never win anything and they'll always suck, but it'll always be sunny at Wrigley and there will be tits and ivy and an old scoreboard and fucking Chads.

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #4899 on: June 28, 2012, 12:02:36 PM »
Quote from: thehawk on June 28, 2012, 11:53:50 AM
Quote from: Brownie on June 28, 2012, 10:51:49 AM
So... what part of your life can Congress not regulate through onerous taxes?

Roberts' ruling isn't outlandish, but he's not exactly saying it's good policy.

Roberts opinion might as well have been written by the RNC:


  • He overturns the dormant commerce clause (in dicta but its pretty clear), which will serve as a major limitation on government action
  • but he doesn't overturn the individual mandate [which would have energized the Obama base], allowing it to stand under the power to tax [so now the ACA is purely a 'tax increase']


quite ingenious really

DPD, when we look back on the death of the expanding Commerce Clause, it'll begin with Lopez, move on to Morrison, and end with these PPACA cases.

So, cheer up, conservatives.
This is so bad, I'd root for the Orioles over this fucking team, but I can't. Because they're a fucking drug and you can't kick it and they'll never win anything and they'll always suck, but it'll always be sunny at Wrigley and there will be tits and ivy and an old scoreboard and fucking Chads.

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #4900 on: June 28, 2012, 12:05:47 PM »
Quote from: Brownie on June 28, 2012, 10:51:49 AM
So... what part of your life can Congress not regulate through onerous taxes?

How about the parts of your life where you don't engage in commerce while expecting everyone else to foot the bill through their onerous taxes? (What is this, like some kind of socialist country or some kind of communist dictatorship?)

Quote from: Brownie on June 28, 2012, 10:51:49 AMRoberts' ruling isn't outlandish,...

His ruling that the Federal government has the power to levy taxes, onerous or not?

Quote from: Brownie on June 28, 2012, 10:51:49 AM... but he's not exactly saying it's good policy.

Then, insofar as he still decided otherwise, it seems he did his job: judging the Constitutionality of the legislation, not the wisdom of it.
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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #4901 on: June 28, 2012, 12:08:19 PM »
Quote from: thehawk on June 28, 2012, 11:53:50 AM

  • He overturns the dormant commerce clause (in dicta but its pretty clear), which will serve as a major limitation on government action

Where? In striking down the Medicaid expansion?
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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #4902 on: June 28, 2012, 12:10:05 PM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 28, 2012, 12:08:19 PM
Quote from: thehawk on June 28, 2012, 11:53:50 AM

  • He overturns the dormant commerce clause (in dicta but its pretty clear), which will serve as a major limitation on government action

Where? In striking down the Medicaid expansion?

Read page 23 of the majority.
This is so bad, I'd root for the Orioles over this fucking team, but I can't. Because they're a fucking drug and you can't kick it and they'll never win anything and they'll always suck, but it'll always be sunny at Wrigley and there will be tits and ivy and an old scoreboard and fucking Chads.

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #4903 on: June 28, 2012, 12:14:20 PM »
Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 28, 2012, 12:10:05 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 28, 2012, 12:08:19 PM
Quote from: thehawk on June 28, 2012, 11:53:50 AM

  • He overturns the dormant commerce clause (in dicta but its pretty clear), which will serve as a major limitation on government action

Where? In striking down the Medicaid expansion?

Read page 23 of the majority.

I'm no law-talking guy, but I'm not seeing anything that levels with my limited understanding of the Dormant Commerce Clause (that limited understanding being that the Dormant Commerce Clause is about preventing states from horning in on interstate commerce).
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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #4904 on: June 28, 2012, 12:20:11 PM »
So, what happens now?
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