Fuck its silent in here.......

[Chuck to Chuck]

Were the positions somehow reversed, we would likely be hearing something very different from Pollock. Had these been ships filled mostly with Americans en route to provide aid and possibly weapons because weapons smuggling into the area had a long history of occurring to members the Green movement as part of a Free Iran Flotilla and the attackers were from the Iranian navy who offered a port and shipping of real relief supplies once searched for contraband, Americans would expect and demand the support of our allies against the state that attacked our citizens who shouted "Go back to Auschwitz" and "Don't forget 9/11 guys". If most Americans cannot understand why Turks expect the same, we really are more clueless as a nation than I had thought possible.

More complete'd.

[R-V]

Were the positions somehow reversed, we would likely be hearing something very different from Pollock. Had these been ships filled mostly with Americans en route to provide aid and possibly weapons because weapons smuggling into the area had a long history of occurring to members the Green movement as part of a Free Iran Flotilla and the attackers were from the Iranian navy who offered a port and shipping of real relief supplies once searched for contraband, Americans would expect and demand the support of our allies against the state that attacked our citizens who shouted "Go back to Auschwitz" and "Don't forget 9/11 guys". If most Americans cannot understand why Turks expect the same, we really are more clueless as a nation than I had thought possible.

More complete'd.

I would think the whole "being attacked with clubs and knives" thing would be better justification for the IDF's reaction than having Auschwitz insults thrown their way, but that's just me.

And I completely understand that the Israelis want to screen for dangerous contraband like nutmeg and chickens.



And it's pretty obvious that the whole point of the flotilla was to provoke Israel and publicize what they feel is an inhumane blockade. It's clear they wanted Israel to take the bait. I don't think it's clear that they were "asking for" a bunch of people to end up dead.

I'm just confused about how aggressively taking the bait (shooting people) helps Israel strategically. Seems to me it just isolates them further.

[Quality Start Machine]

Am I the only one surprised chemical fertilizer is on the "Permitted" list?

[Chuck to Chuck]

I would think the whole "being attacked with clubs and knives" thing would be better justification for the IDF's reaction than having Auschwitz insults thrown their way, but that's just me.

I wasn't justifying.  I was just casting your strawman Americans in the proper light for empathy,

And I completely understand that the Israelis want to screen for dangerous contraband like nutmeg and chickens.

Especially when the nutmeg has historically been gunpowder and the chickens have historically been grenades.

And it's pretty obvious that the whole point of the flotilla was to provoke Israel and publicize what they feel is an inhumane blockade.

Agreed.

It's clear they wanted Israel to take the bait. I don't think it's clear that they were "asking for" a bunch of people to end up dead.

Anyone suggesting they were "asking for it" is stupid.  Anyone suggesting the organizers weren't hoping some would end up dead for better propaganda is just as stupid.

I'm just confused about how aggressively taking the bait (shooting people) helps Israel strategically. Seems to me it just isolates them further.

It does.  Israel also thinks that, given the alternative ally to them in the Mid East are all Al-Qaida lovers, Israel can do whatever it wants.

[Bort]

Anyone suggesting they were "asking for it" is stupid.  Anyone suggesting the organizers weren't hoping some would end up dead for better propaganda is just as stupid.

Just as? And "Teabagger" is just as bad as "nigger."

[R-V]

Especially when the nutmeg has historically been gunpowder and the chickens have historically been grenades.

Not being a smartass - but what do you mean? That they have disguised grenades to look like chickens?

[Chuck to Chuck]

Especially when the nutmeg has historically been gunpowder and the chickens have historically been grenades.

Not being a smartass - but what do you mean? That they have disguised grenades to look like chickens?

Either you are clueless about the historical illegal weapons smuggling into Gaza or you are being a smartass.

[R-V]

Especially when the nutmeg has historically been gunpowder and the chickens have historically been grenades.

Not being a smartass - but what do you mean? That they have disguised grenades to look like chickens?

Either you are clueless about the historical illegal weapons smuggling into Gaza or you are being a smartass.

So it's possible to plant a grenade in a live chicken? I honestly didn't know that. How would you pull the pin?

[Quality Start Machine]

Especially when the nutmeg has historically been gunpowder and the chickens have historically been grenades.

Not being a smartass - but what do you mean? That they have disguised grenades to look like chickens?

Either you are clueless about the historical illegal weapons smuggling into Gaza or you are being a smartass.

So it's possible to plant a grenade in a live chicken? I honestly didn't know that. How would you pull the pin?

At least now I know how they make Popcorn Chicken.

[Gilgamesh]

I think Harry Reid's job just got a lot safer.

[MikeC]

Reuters doing its best to cover for the peace activists....

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/36489_Another_Cropped_Reuters_Photo_Deletes_Another_Knife_-_And_a_Pool_of_Blood







Remember first wave IDF soldiers had paintball guns, they were stabbed and beaten badly. Next wave came guys with guns to rescue their fallen brothers. You do the math on what happens next.

And Israel is the bad guys cuz an American got shot. Go figure.

I think the Israel should call up Turkey and say they want to deliver aid to the Kurd's the largest displaced people on this planet. You think Turkey would be all nice and welcoming? They fucking hate the Kurd's.

[Slaky]

Reuters doing its best to cover for the peace activists....

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/36489_Another_Cropped_Reuters_Photo_Deletes_Another_Knife_-_And_a_Pool_of_Blood







Remember first wave IDF soldiers had paintball guns, they were stabbed and beaten badly. Next wave came guys with guns to rescue their fallen brothers. You do the math on what happens next.

And Israel is the bad guys cuz an American got shot. Go figure.

I think the Israel should call up Turkey and say they want to deliver aid to the Kurd's the largest displaced people on this planet. You think Turkey would be all nice and welcoming? They fucking hate the Kurd's.

THE HAWKS WON THE CUP! THE HAWKS WON THE CUP!!!!!

[Bort]

Reuters doing its best to cover for the peace activists....

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/36489_Another_Cropped_Reuters_Photo_Deletes_Another_Knife_-_And_a_Pool_of_Blood







Remember first wave IDF soldiers had paintball guns, they were stabbed and beaten badly. Next wave came guys with guns to rescue their fallen brothers. You do the math on what happens next.

And Israel is the bad guys cuz an American got shot. Go figure.

I think the Israel should call up Turkey and say they want to deliver aid to the Kurd's the largest displaced people on this planet. You think Turkey would be all nice and welcoming? They fucking hate the Kurd's.

THE HAWKS WON THE CUP! THE HAWKS WON THE CUP!!!!!

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Gilgamesh]

Reuters doing its best to cover for the peace activists....

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/36489_Another_Cropped_Reuters_Photo_Deletes_Another_Knife_-_And_a_Pool_of_Blood







Remember first wave IDF soldiers had paintball guns, they were stabbed and beaten badly. Next wave came guys with guns to rescue their fallen brothers. You do the math on what happens next.

And Israel is the bad guys cuz an American got shot. Go figure.

I think the Israel should call up Turkey and say they want to deliver aid to the Kurd's the largest displaced people on this planet. You think Turkey would be all nice and welcoming? They fucking hate the Kurd's.

The Kurd's what?

Also...

HAWKS!!!

[Bort]

You guys, this Hawks team is seriously great.