Fuck its silent in here.......

[Brownie]

I think we have gone over the fact that the Clinton years do a whole lot of fuzzy math to make it look like they had a surplus. I don't know how you can add to the national debt and still run a surplus. But hey you Democrats are good with fuzzy math, saved or created jobs, health care bill, stimulus bill, whole shit load of fuzzy math going on there.

And what no talk about Weigel and JournoList? Journalists (lefty ones) conspiring together to shape the news cycle. Locked in a bubble of group thinking people all with one agenda, to stop conservatives and to promote liberal stories and narratives. And people wonder why the MSM is bleeding viewers and can't sell news papers. Its because they can no longer be trusted to deliver the news.

Here MikeC, read this.

http://spectator.org/blog/2010/06/25/defending-dave-weigel

This. However, Weigel should know as well as anyone that there unfortunately is hardly ever such thing as "off the record."

[Gilgamesh]

I think we have gone over the fact that the Clinton years do a whole lot of fuzzy math to make it look like they had a surplus. I don't know how you can add to the national debt and still run a surplus. But hey you Democrats are good with fuzzy math, saved or created jobs, health care bill, stimulus bill, whole shit load of fuzzy math going on there.

And what no talk about Weigel and JournoList? Journalists (lefty ones) conspiring together to shape the news cycle. Locked in a bubble of group thinking people all with one agenda, to stop conservatives and to promote liberal stories and narratives. And people wonder why the MSM is bleeding viewers and can't sell news papers. Its because they can no longer be trusted to deliver the news.

Here MikeC, read this.

http://spectator.org/blog/2010/06/25/defending-dave-weigel

This. However, Weigel should know as well as anyone that there unfortunately is hardly ever such thing as "off the record."

I refuse to accept the premise that the internet has destroyed the public/private distinction in people's lives.  99.9 % of what's posted here would probably get us in trouble with our employers, our friends and our families, but we still do it nevertheless.  For the WaPo or any other journalistic outfit to take such Draconian action over what is tantamount to a stool at a bar is offensive.

It's almost as if the standard from the Post (or the Manichean conservatives breathing fire over this incident, i.e. MikeC) is that, if you are a journalist, you have no private life, everything must be objective.

Christ, could a journalist even vote under this standard?  These were private comments and should have remained that.

[morpheus]

I must agree with Gil and TJ here.  Private comments are private comments and he shouldn't have been fired for making them...

[CBStew]

I must agree with Gil and TJ here.  Private comments are private comments and he shouldn't have been fired for making them...

Anyone who makes private comments around a Rolling Stone reporter thinking that they won't become public is too dumb too hold a responsible position.

[Quality Start Machine]

I must agree with Gil and TJ here.  Private comments are private comments and he shouldn't have been fired for making them...

Anyone who makes private comments around a Rolling Stone reporter thinking that they won't become public is too dumb too hold a responsible position.

He probably figured nobody reads Rolling Stone any more.

[Chuck to Chuck]

I must agree with Gil and TJ here.  Private comments are private comments and he shouldn't have been fired for making them...

I thought Tim Weigel was dead already?

[Gilgamesh]

I must agree with Gil and TJ here.  Private comments are private comments and he shouldn't have been fired for making them...

Anyone who makes private comments around a Rolling Stone reporter thinking that they won't become public is too dumb too hold a responsible position.

This was about the Washington Post reporter, Stew, not McChrystal.

[CBStew]

I must agree with Gil and TJ here.  Private comments are private comments and he shouldn't have been fired for making them...

Anyone who makes private comments around a Rolling Stone reporter thinking that they won't become public is too dumb too hold a responsible position.

This was about the Washington Post reporter, Stew, not McChrystal.

You expect me to read this stuff?

[SKO]

I must agree with Gil and TJ here.  Private comments are private comments and he shouldn't have been fired for making them...

Anyone who makes private comments around a Rolling Stone reporter thinking that they won't become public is too dumb too hold a responsible position.

This was about the Washington Post reporter, Stew, not McChrystal.

You expect me to read this stuff?

No, I think Stew just "saw what Morph did there." I LOL'd, Morph. I LOL'd.

[Gilgamesh]

I must agree with Gil and TJ here.  Private comments are private comments and he shouldn't have been fired for making them...

Anyone who makes private comments around a Rolling Stone reporter thinking that they won't become public is too dumb too hold a responsible position.

This was about the Washington Post reporter, Stew, not McChrystal.

You expect me to read this stuff?

No, I think Stew just "saw what Morph did there." I LOL'd, Morph. I LOL'd.

To be fair, I never advocated McChrystal's firing, unlike that noted liberal William Kristol. 

[SKO]

I must agree with Gil and TJ here.  Private comments are private comments and he shouldn't have been fired for making them...

Anyone who makes private comments around a Rolling Stone reporter thinking that they won't become public is too dumb too hold a responsible position.

This was about the Washington Post reporter, Stew, not McChrystal.

You expect me to read this stuff?

No, I think Stew just "saw what Morph did there." I LOL'd, Morph. I LOL'd.

To be fair, I never advocated McChrystal's firing, unlike that noted liberal William Kristol. 

But you're no liberal, Gil. You and I are Nixonians. We'll lower taxes, brutalize criminals, and rule like Kings.

[Quality Start Machine]

I must agree with Gil and TJ here.  Private comments are private comments and he shouldn't have been fired for making them...

I thought Tim Weigel was dead already?

I keep hoping for Teri Weigel.

[Gilgamesh]

I must agree with Gil and TJ here.  Private comments are private comments and he shouldn't have been fired for making them...

Anyone who makes private comments around a Rolling Stone reporter thinking that they won't become public is too dumb too hold a responsible position.

This was about the Washington Post reporter, Stew, not McChrystal.

You expect me to read this stuff?

No, I think Stew just "saw what Morph did there." I LOL'd, Morph. I LOL'd.

To be fair, I never advocated McChrystal's firing, unlike that noted liberal William Kristol. 

But you're no liberal, Gil. You and I are Nixonians. We'll lower taxes, brutalize criminals, and rule like Kings.

Indeed.  Indeed.

My love for Nixon goes so far that I practically squee whenever I see the Nixon silver dollar in the alternate universe on "Fringe."  Better him than that no-goodnik Kennedy.

[R-V]

That was the nature of the Senate in Byrd's day: It was thick with rules that could be used to tie the institution in knots, but those rules were governed by norms that were used to keep the institution functioning. It was this tradition that led Byrd to write a letter opposing filibuster reform earlier this year. "If the Senate rules are being abused," he wrote, "it does not necessarily follow that the solution is to change the rules. Senators are obliged to exercise their best judgment when invoking their right to extended debate." In other words, the Senate needed to reestablish its norms, not change its rules.

But the situation is too far gone for all that. The Senate is now a place of blanket holds and routine filibusters and anonymous obstruction and party-line votes. The thing about norms is that once broken, they're generally dead forever.

Eventually, change to the norms will lead to change in the rules. But we're in the lag time when the Senate hasn't caught up to its own reality yet. You see this in different generations of senators: Many of the freshmen and sophomores want to change the body's rules. Some of the elders, like Byrd, steadfastly resisted such reforms.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/06/the_post-byrd_senate.html

[Gilgamesh]

A good decision by the Supremes today.

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/06/united-states-supreme-court-scotus-gun-control-rifle-ban-chicago-police-mayor-richard-daley-nra-second-2nd-amendment.html

Ban still in effect, however, due to the district level retrial.