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R-V

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #2670 on: October 15, 2010, 11:03:15 AM »
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 11:00:23 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 15, 2010, 10:53:53 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 10:02:03 AM
Especially since people have budgeted for these taxes for 10 years.

Are you saying that some people budget 10 years in advance? Or that people have simply grown accustomed to these tax rates, so they shouldn't change?

No. and no.

Somebody please tell Yeti what he was saying.

Yeti

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #2671 on: October 15, 2010, 11:11:10 AM »
Quote from: R-V on October 15, 2010, 11:03:15 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 11:00:23 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 15, 2010, 10:53:53 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 10:02:03 AM
Especially since people have budgeted for these taxes for 10 years.

Are you saying that some people budget 10 years in advance? Or that people have simply grown accustomed to these tax rates, so they shouldn't change?

No. and no.

Somebody please tell Yeti what he was saying.

I'm not saying that people budget 10 years in advance, however, I'm saying they budget on a monthly basis. And if you alter that monthly income, you can screw things up for people. I assume you understand the concept of a budget, right? If you have $2500 in monthly income, and you have bills in the amount of $2250, and save or "waste" (unplanned spending) the remaining $250, and then that income gets reduced by, say $75 a month, then you're reducing that "save" cushion for a family. And when you're making only that much, you need to have a cushion. Also, people buy a car or a house not only based off of the whole sale price, but probably more importantly, on the monthly payment.

Plus, the government first encouraged us to buy buy buy these houses and cars while we're at a certain income point, and then they're going to lower our income to put us in more of a bind because of those larger monthly expenditures? Makes a whole hell of a lot of sense.

If you're saying that you want higher tax rates on the middle class, just say it. If you're just picking apart one single part of my post to be a dense fucking bitch, then say so as well.

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #2672 on: October 15, 2010, 11:17:08 AM »
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 11:11:10 AM
I assume you understand the concept of a budget, right?

Is this the part of Desipio where Yeti explains why outs are bad?
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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #2673 on: October 15, 2010, 11:19:41 AM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2010, 11:17:08 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 11:11:10 AM
I assume you understand the concept of a budget, right?

Is this the part of Desipio where Yeti explains why outs are bad?

Oh, trust me, I recalled that vividly. And outs are bad. They are the opposite of non-outs, which is the goal of baseball, to not make outs. Simple game.

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #2674 on: October 15, 2010, 11:21:40 AM »
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 11:11:10 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 15, 2010, 11:03:15 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 11:00:23 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 15, 2010, 10:53:53 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 10:02:03 AM
Especially since people have budgeted for these taxes for 10 years.

Are you saying that some people budget 10 years in advance? Or that people have simply grown accustomed to these tax rates, so they shouldn't change?

No. and no.

Somebody please tell Yeti what he was saying.

I'm not saying that people budget 10 years in advance, however, I'm saying they budget on a monthly basis. And if you alter that monthly income, you can screw things up for people. I assume you understand the concept of a budget, right? If you have $2500 in monthly income, and you have bills in the amount of $2250, and save or "waste" (unplanned spending) the remaining $250, and then that income gets reduced by, say $75 a month, then you're reducing that "save" cushion for a family. And when you're making only that much, you need to have a cushion. Also, people buy a car or a house not only based off of the whole sale price, but probably more importantly, on the monthly payment.

Plus, the government first encouraged us to buy buy buy these houses and cars while we're at a certain income point, and then they're going to lower our income to put us in more of a bind because of those larger monthly expenditures? Makes a whole hell of a lot of sense.

If you're saying that you want higher tax rates on the middle class, just say it. If you're just picking apart one single part of my post to be a dense fucking bitch, then say so as well.

I can attest to this.  My monthly expenses are the exact same every month.

Yeti

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #2675 on: October 15, 2010, 11:25:01 AM »
Quote from: Ivy6 on October 15, 2010, 11:21:40 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 11:11:10 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 15, 2010, 11:03:15 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 11:00:23 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 15, 2010, 10:53:53 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 10:02:03 AM
Especially since people have budgeted for these taxes for 10 years.

Are you saying that some people budget 10 years in advance? Or that people have simply grown accustomed to these tax rates, so they shouldn't change?

No. and no.

Somebody please tell Yeti what he was saying.

I'm not saying that people budget 10 years in advance, however, I'm saying they budget on a monthly basis. And if you alter that monthly income, you can screw things up for people. I assume you understand the concept of a budget, right? If you have $2500 in monthly income, and you have bills in the amount of $2250, and save or "waste" (unplanned spending) the remaining $250, and then that income gets reduced by, say $75 a month, then you're reducing that "save" cushion for a family. And when you're making only that much, you need to have a cushion. Also, people buy a car or a house not only based off of the whole sale price, but probably more importantly, on the monthly payment.

Plus, the government first encouraged us to buy buy buy these houses and cars while we're at a certain income point, and then they're going to lower our income to put us in more of a bind because of those larger monthly expenditures? Makes a whole hell of a lot of sense.

If you're saying that you want higher tax rates on the middle class, just say it. If you're just picking apart one single part of my post to be a dense fucking bitch, then say so as well.

I can attest to this.  My monthly expenses are the exact same every month.

Yes, I was saying they're completely static.

Ivy6

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #2676 on: October 15, 2010, 11:37:00 AM »
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 11:25:01 AM
Quote from: Ivy6 on October 15, 2010, 11:21:40 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 11:11:10 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 15, 2010, 11:03:15 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 11:00:23 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 15, 2010, 10:53:53 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 10:02:03 AM
Especially since people have budgeted for these taxes for 10 years.

Are you saying that some people budget 10 years in advance? Or that people have simply grown accustomed to these tax rates, so they shouldn't change?

No. and no.

Somebody please tell Yeti what he was saying.

I'm not saying that people budget 10 years in advance, however, I'm saying they budget on a monthly basis. And if you alter that monthly income, you can screw things up for people. I assume you understand the concept of a budget, right? If you have $2500 in monthly income, and you have bills in the amount of $2250, and save or "waste" (unplanned spending) the remaining $250, and then that income gets reduced by, say $75 a month, then you're reducing that "save" cushion for a family. And when you're making only that much, you need to have a cushion. Also, people buy a car or a house not only based off of the whole sale price, but probably more importantly, on the monthly payment.

Plus, the government first encouraged us to buy buy buy these houses and cars while we're at a certain income point, and then they're going to lower our income to put us in more of a bind because of those larger monthly expenditures? Makes a whole hell of a lot of sense.

If you're saying that you want higher tax rates on the middle class, just say it. If you're just picking apart one single part of my post to be a dense fucking bitch, then say so as well.

I can attest to this.  My monthly expenses are the exact same every month.

Yes, I was saying they're completely static.

Me too.

Yeti

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #2677 on: October 15, 2010, 11:44:14 AM »
Quote from: Ivy6 on October 15, 2010, 11:37:00 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 11:25:01 AM
Quote from: Ivy6 on October 15, 2010, 11:21:40 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 11:11:10 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 15, 2010, 11:03:15 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 11:00:23 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 15, 2010, 10:53:53 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 10:02:03 AM
Especially since people have budgeted for these taxes for 10 years.

Are you saying that some people budget 10 years in advance? Or that people have simply grown accustomed to these tax rates, so they shouldn't change?

No. and no.

Somebody please tell Yeti what he was saying.

I'm not saying that people budget 10 years in advance, however, I'm saying they budget on a monthly basis. And if you alter that monthly income, you can screw things up for people. I assume you understand the concept of a budget, right? If you have $2500 in monthly income, and you have bills in the amount of $2250, and save or "waste" (unplanned spending) the remaining $250, and then that income gets reduced by, say $75 a month, then you're reducing that "save" cushion for a family. And when you're making only that much, you need to have a cushion. Also, people buy a car or a house not only based off of the whole sale price, but probably more importantly, on the monthly payment.

Plus, the government first encouraged us to buy buy buy these houses and cars while we're at a certain income point, and then they're going to lower our income to put us in more of a bind because of those larger monthly expenditures? Makes a whole hell of a lot of sense.

If you're saying that you want higher tax rates on the middle class, just say it. If you're just picking apart one single part of my post to be a dense fucking bitch, then say so as well.

I can attest to this.  My monthly expenses are the exact same every month.

Yes, I was saying they're completely static.

Me too.

Then we're in agreement. Great

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #2678 on: October 15, 2010, 12:51:20 PM »
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 11:19:41 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2010, 11:17:08 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 11:11:10 AM
I assume you understand the concept of a budget, right?

Is this the part of Desipio where Yeti explains why outs are bad?

Oh, trust me, I recalled that vividly. And outs are bad. They are the opposite of non-outs, which is the goal of baseball, to not make outs. Simple game.

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #2679 on: October 15, 2010, 01:22:02 PM »
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 11:11:10 AM
Also, people buy a car or a house not only based off of the whole sale price, but probably more importantly, on the monthly payment.

Buying a house or car while focusing on the monthly payment is an awful, awful financial decision. Not that you're advocating it, necessarily.  Just saying that people probably shouldn't do that, even though they do.

Edit: My final sentence is positively BC-ian, I realize.

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #2680 on: October 15, 2010, 01:25:13 PM »
Quote from: Eli on October 15, 2010, 01:22:02 PM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 11:11:10 AM
Also, people buy a car or a house not only based off of the whole sale price, but probably more importantly, on the monthly payment.

Buying a house or car while focusing on the monthly payment is an awful, awful financial decision. Not that you're advocating it, necessarily.  Just saying that people probably shouldn't do that, even though they do.

Edit: My final sentence is positively BC-ian, I realize.

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Yeti

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #2681 on: October 15, 2010, 01:27:43 PM »
Quote from: Eli on October 15, 2010, 01:22:02 PM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 11:11:10 AM
Also, people buy a car or a house not only based off of the whole sale price, but probably more importantly, on the monthly payment.

Buying a house or car while focusing on the monthly payment is an awful, awful financial decision. Not that you're advocating it, necessarily.  Just saying that people probably shouldn't do that, even though they do.

Edit: My final sentence is positively BC-ian, I realize.

So you don't look at the monthly payment amount? Shit, I got this all wrong! I should have bought that $300,000 house because it was really nice, not because it was out of my monthly budget

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #2682 on: October 15, 2010, 01:39:31 PM »
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 01:27:43 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 15, 2010, 01:22:02 PM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 11:11:10 AM
Also, people buy a car or a house not only based off of the whole sale price, but probably more importantly, on the monthly payment.

Buying a house or car while focusing on the monthly payment is an awful, awful financial decision. Not that you're advocating it, necessarily.  Just saying that people probably shouldn't do that, even though they do.

Edit: My final sentence is positively BC-ian, I realize.

So you don't look at the monthly payment amount? Shit, I got this all wrong! I should have bought that $300,000 house because it was really nice, not because it was out of my monthly budget

I think he means it should be part of the process, but not the focus. At least that's what I hope he means.
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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #2683 on: October 15, 2010, 01:42:09 PM »
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 01:27:43 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 15, 2010, 01:22:02 PM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 11:11:10 AM
Also, people buy a car or a house not only based off of the whole sale price, but probably more importantly, on the monthly payment.

Buying a house or car while focusing on the monthly payment is an awful, awful financial decision. Not that you're advocating it, necessarily.  Just saying that people probably shouldn't do that, even though they do.

Edit: My final sentence is positively BC-ian, I realize.

So you don't look at the monthly payment amount? Shit, I got this all wrong! I should have bought that $300,000 house because it was really nice, not because it was out of my monthly budget

No, he's saying quite the opposite. Too many people buy a house or car, justifying that they can afford it simply on the basis of the monthly payment. The amount of equity you have in the house, the interest rate, the value of the house, property taxes, the upkeep of the house, etc. are factors often overlooked.

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Re: Fuck its silent in here.......
« Reply #2684 on: October 15, 2010, 01:44:46 PM »
Quote from: Brownie on October 15, 2010, 01:42:09 PM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 01:27:43 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 15, 2010, 01:22:02 PM
Quote from: Yeti on October 15, 2010, 11:11:10 AM
Also, people buy a car or a house not only based off of the whole sale price, but probably more importantly, on the monthly payment.

Buying a house or car while focusing on the monthly payment is an awful, awful financial decision. Not that you're advocating it, necessarily.  Just saying that people probably shouldn't do that, even though they do.

Edit: My final sentence is positively BC-ian, I realize.

So you don't look at the monthly payment amount? Shit, I got this all wrong! I should have bought that $300,000 house because it was really nice, not because it was out of my monthly budget

No, he's saying quite the opposite. Too many people buy a house or car, justifying that they can afford it simply on the basis of the monthly payment. The amount of equity you have in the house, the interest rate, the value of the house, property taxes, the upkeep of the house, etc. are factors often overlooked.

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