Fuck its silent in here.......

[Quality Start Machine]

So, we've established that all sides in this are pretty shitty.  All have people who say heinous things.  But, we've also got a Constitution that protects their right to do so. 
And it's certainly not something that should be fucked around with just because we don't like the rhetoric of the lowest common denominator.  Their speech is protected, just like yours and mine.

I think the thing to remember is, there's very little that's new about this.  Ever since politicians have appeared in public, crazy people have been trying to kill them.  And this guy was crazy.  Saying that taking a more civil tone in the political forum would have prevented this from happening is like saying that if the city of New York had just banned talking dogs, David Davey Berkowitz never would have shot anyone.

[BH]

So, we've established that all sides in this are pretty shitty.  All have people who say heinous things.  But, we've also got a Constitution that protects their right to do so. 
And it's certainly not something that should be fucked around with just because we don't like the rhetoric of the lowest common denominator.  Their speech is protected, just like yours and mine.

I think the thing to remember is, there's very little that's new about this.  Ever since politicians have appeared in public, crazy people have been trying to kill them.  And this guy was crazy.  Saying that taking a more civil tone in the political forum would have prevented this from happening is like saying that if the city of New York had just banned talking dogs, David Berkowitz never would have shot anyone.

I hope Jon Bon Jovi sees this and writes a song in your memory.

[CT III]

So, we've established that all sides in this are pretty shitty.  All have people who say heinous things.  But, we've also got a Constitution that protects their right to do so. 
And it's certainly not something that should be fucked around with just because we don't like the rhetoric of the lowest common denominator.  Their speech is protected, just like yours and mine.

I think the thing to remember is, there's very little that's new about this.  Ever since politicians have appeared in public, crazy people have been trying to kill them.  And this guy was crazy.  Saying that taking a more civil tone in the political forum would have prevented this from happening is like saying that if the city of New York had just banned talking dogs, David Berkowitz never would have shot anyone.

I hope Jon Bon Jovi sees this and writes a song in your memory.

And I hope his tour stops in Brolumbus so you can hear him sing it live.

[CBStew]

So, we've established that all sides in this are pretty shitty.  All have people who say heinous things.  But, we've also got a Constitution that protects their right to do so. 
And it's certainly not something that should be fucked around with just because we don't like the rhetoric of the lowest common denominator.  Their speech is protected, just like yours and mine.

I think the thing to remember is, there's very little that's new about this.  Ever since politicians have appeared in public, crazy people have been trying to kill them.  And this guy was crazy.  Saying that taking a more civil tone in the political forum would have prevented this from happening is like saying that if the city of New York had just banned talking dogs, David Berkowitz never would have shot anyone.

Julius Caesar approves this comment.  He also advises to stay out of the forum if you know what is good for you.

[MikeC]

Of course, the Dems are guilty, in that phrases like "Targeting strategy" and the like are never used in, say, marketing or advertising.

And the Democratic candidates for office were full of "Second Amendment Solutions" and "Don't retreat-RELOAD".

Are they saints? Of course not. Politics is shitty business.

That being said, there may (hopefully) be 2 positives to come out of all this:

1) Sarah Palin becomes so politically toxic that she is no longer a factor on the National stage, and

2) People in both parties understand that, like it or not, you better make sure somebody is fully vetted before you put them on Camera 1.

You pretty much nail the entire purpose of the Democratic strategy to stop Sarah Palin or anyone else that dares to defy Democrats. Say as much crazy, made up up crap, that is never supported by facts in an attempt to make them toxic.

Your positive is to associate something that has nothing to do with Palin in the hopes it makes her more toxic.

Really it just prove my entire point about this non-sense about associating it with Palin. It doesn't really matter whether its true or not as long as the end goal is the destruction of Palin. Thats the positive you get out of it? Holy fuck that is a warped reality. I bet Dan Rather used that same logic loop when he ran his last story for CBS Nightly News.

[J. Walter Weatherman]

I bet Dan Rather used that same logic loop when he ran his last story for CBS Nightly News.

This seems topical enough.

[BH]

I bet Dan Rather used that same logic loop when he ran his last story for CBS Nightly News.

This seems topical enough.

Seems like we're making progress though. MikeC actually read someone else's post.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

non-sense?

[Quality Start Machine]

Of course, the Dems are guilty, in that phrases like "Targeting strategy" and the like are never used in, say, marketing or advertising.

And the Democratic candidates for office were full of "Second Amendment Solutions" and "Don't retreat-RELOAD".

Are they saints? Of course not. Politics is shitty business.

That being said, there may (hopefully) be 2 positives to come out of all this:

1) Sarah Palin becomes so politically toxic that she is no longer a factor on the National stage, and

2) People in both parties understand that, like it or not, you better make sure somebody is fully vetted before you put them on Camera 1.

You pretty much nail the entire purpose of the Democratic strategy to stop Sarah Palin or anyone else that dares to defy Democrats. Say as much crazy, made up up crap, that is never supported by facts in an attempt to make them toxic.

Your positive is to associate something that has nothing to do with Palin in the hopes it makes her more toxic.

Really it just prove my entire point about this non-sense about associating it with Palin. It doesn't really matter whether its true or not as long as the end goal is the destruction of Palin. Thats the positive you get out of it? Holy fuck that is a warped reality. I bet Dan Rather used that same logic loop when he ran his last story for CBS Nightly News.

Hoping Palin exits the political arena isn't my wish as a Democrat, it's my wish as an American. She benefits my party but harms the Nation.

[Canadouche]

I can point to things 10,000 times as bad as a Palin site with targets, there is about a decade of evidence of all the left wing hate speech, and violent imagery against Bush. Palin has had her fair share thrown at her and her family as well.

since you've paraphrased Michelle Malkin's latest screed here, allow me to rebut.

There are plenty of websites, imagery, etc. with all kinds of hate on them - Nobody is truly President of the United States until he's been caricatured as Hitler - but all Malkin's examples (and, by extention, anything you'd provide) are done by the left-wing version of Birthers.

Not by former Vice Presidential nominees, probably Presidential candidates, or groups funded by the DNC. You are comparing apples to basketballs.

DPD.  Damnit Fork, your insistence on acting like one of these parties is better than the other (hint - it's not) has forced me to post this.  I've tried to stay out of this, mainly because a nutjob's a nutjob and all this bullshit about the rhetoric causing anything is, well, bullshit.

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=253055&kaid=127&subid=171



Those look like bullseyes, a "targeting strategy," and "BEHIND ENEMY LINES."  From the DLC.  So stop acting like it's "The right does rhetoric like THIS, the left like THIS."

Also, Oleg's conclusion is perfect.  Well said, indeed.

Holy shit!  The democrats want to assassinate 8 states - and Florida!

[Bort]

I can point to things 10,000 times as bad as a Palin site with targets, there is about a decade of evidence of all the left wing hate speech, and violent imagery against Bush. Palin has had her fair share thrown at her and her family as well.

since you've paraphrased Michelle Malkin's latest screed here, allow me to rebut.

There are plenty of websites, imagery, etc. with all kinds of hate on them - Nobody is truly President of the United States until he's been caricatured as Hitler - but all Malkin's examples (and, by extention, anything you'd provide) are done by the left-wing version of Birthers.

Not by former Vice Presidential nominees, probably Presidential candidates, or groups funded by the DNC. You are comparing apples to basketballs.

DPD.  Damnit Fork, your insistence on acting like one of these parties is better than the other (hint - it's not) has forced me to post this.  I've tried to stay out of this, mainly because a nutjob's a nutjob and all this bullshit about the rhetoric causing anything is, well, bullshit.

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=253055&kaid=127&subid=171



Those look like bullseyes, a "targeting strategy," and "BEHIND ENEMY LINES."  From the DLC.  So stop acting like it's "The right does rhetoric like THIS, the left like THIS."

Also, Oleg's conclusion is perfect.  Well said, indeed.

Holy shit!  The democrats want to assassinate 8 states - and Florida!

I thought it was a map of Who concerts.

[CT III]

I can point to things 10,000 times as bad as a Palin site with targets, there is about a decade of evidence of all the left wing hate speech, and violent imagery against Bush. Palin has had her fair share thrown at her and her family as well.

since you've paraphrased Michelle Malkin's latest screed here, allow me to rebut.

There are plenty of websites, imagery, etc. with all kinds of hate on them - Nobody is truly President of the United States until he's been caricatured as Hitler - but all Malkin's examples (and, by extention, anything you'd provide) are done by the left-wing version of Birthers.

Not by former Vice Presidential nominees, probably Presidential candidates, or groups funded by the DNC. You are comparing apples to basketballs.

DPD.  Damnit Fork, your insistence on acting like one of these parties is better than the other (hint - it's not) has forced me to post this.  I've tried to stay out of this, mainly because a nutjob's a nutjob and all this bullshit about the rhetoric causing anything is, well, bullshit.

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=253055&kaid=127&subid=171



Those look like bullseyes, a "targeting strategy," and "BEHIND ENEMY LINES."  From the DLC.  So stop acting like it's "The right does rhetoric like THIS, the left like THIS."

Also, Oleg's conclusion is perfect.  Well said, indeed.

Holy shit!  The democrats want to assassinate 8 states - and Florida!

I thought it was a map of Who concerts.

Nonsense, there'd be one on Cincinnati if that were the case.

[Bort]

I can point to things 10,000 times as bad as a Palin site with targets, there is about a decade of evidence of all the left wing hate speech, and violent imagery against Bush. Palin has had her fair share thrown at her and her family as well.

since you've paraphrased Michelle Malkin's latest screed here, allow me to rebut.

There are plenty of websites, imagery, etc. with all kinds of hate on them - Nobody is truly President of the United States until he's been caricatured as Hitler - but all Malkin's examples (and, by extention, anything you'd provide) are done by the left-wing version of Birthers.

Not by former Vice Presidential nominees, probably Presidential candidates, or groups funded by the DNC. You are comparing apples to basketballs.

DPD.  Damnit Fork, your insistence on acting like one of these parties is better than the other (hint - it's not) has forced me to post this.  I've tried to stay out of this, mainly because a nutjob's a nutjob and all this bullshit about the rhetoric causing anything is, well, bullshit.

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=253055&kaid=127&subid=171



Those look like bullseyes, a "targeting strategy," and "BEHIND ENEMY LINES."  From the DLC.  So stop acting like it's "The right does rhetoric like THIS, the left like THIS."

Also, Oleg's conclusion is perfect.  Well said, indeed.

Holy shit!  The democrats want to assassinate 8 states - and Florida!

I thought it was a map of Who concerts.

Nonsense, there'd be one on Cincinnati if that were the case.

Now that was just inflammatory. I call for Dan Rather to outlaw your speech or something.

[CBStew]

Your positive is to associate something that has nothing to do with Palin in the hopes it makes her more toxic.

You nailed his positive.  Now what about his negative?

[Oleg]

I can point to things 10,000 times as bad as a Palin site with targets, there is about a decade of evidence of all the left wing hate speech, and violent imagery against Bush. Palin has had her fair share thrown at her and her family as well.

since you've paraphrased Michelle Malkin's latest screed here, allow me to rebut.

There are plenty of websites, imagery, etc. with all kinds of hate on them - Nobody is truly President of the United States until he's been caricatured as Hitler - but all Malkin's examples (and, by extention, anything you'd provide) are done by the left-wing version of Birthers.

Not by former Vice Presidential nominees, probably Presidential candidates, or groups funded by the DNC. You are comparing apples to basketballs.

DPD.  Damnit Fork, your insistence on acting like one of these parties is better than the other (hint - it's not) has forced me to post this.  I've tried to stay out of this, mainly because a nutjob's a nutjob and all this bullshit about the rhetoric causing anything is, well, bullshit.

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=253055&kaid=127&subid=171



Those look like bullseyes, a "targeting strategy," and "BEHIND ENEMY LINES."  From the DLC.  So stop acting like it's "The right does rhetoric like THIS, the left like THIS."

Also, Oleg's conclusion is perfect.  Well said, indeed.

Holy shit!  The democrats want to assassinate 8 states - and Florida!

I thought it was a map of Who concerts.

Nonsense, there'd be one on Cincinnati if that were the case.

Now that was just inflammatory. I call for Dan Rather to outlaw your speech or something.

What's the frequency, indeed.