Starlin Castro Unbridled Manlove with a Side Order of Sploogetasticism Thread

[PenFoe]

Should I be worried about him?

Depends on what your initial expectations were.

I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.

You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton, so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.

As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks.

I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here.

the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro?

I think it's because we are hoping he's going to be a great shortstop, not a great Cubs shortstop, which are two very different things, as you've pointed out.

[Quality Start Machine]

Should I be worried about him?

Depends on what your initial expectations were.

I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.

You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton, so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.

As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks.

I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here.

the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro?

I think it's because we are hoping he's going to be a great shortstop, not a great Cubs shortstop, which are two very different things, as you've pointed out.

He's stil only 23. His career path is far from being determined. That includes whether or not he'll even be a shortstop once Baez is ready...Baez might wind up being even better than Castro.

[BH]

Should I be worried about him?

Depends on what your initial expectations were.

I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.

You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton, so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.

As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks.

I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here.

the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro?

I think it's because we are hoping he's going to be a great shortstop, not a great Cubs shortstop, which are two very different things, as you've pointed out.

He's stil only 23. His career path is far from being determined. That includes whether or not he'll even be a shortstop once Baez is ready...Baez might wind up being even better than Castro.

Why are we still talking about Castro?

[PenFoe]

Should I be worried about him?

Depends on what your initial expectations were.

I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.

You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton, so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.

As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks.

I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here.

the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro?

I think it's because we are hoping he's going to be a great shortstop, not a great Cubs shortstop, which are two very different things, as you've pointed out.

He's stil only 23. His career path is far from being determined. That includes whether or not he'll even be a shortstop once Baez is ready...Baez might wind up being even better than Castro.

Why are we still talking about Castro?

Because this is the Castro thread.

[BH]

Should I be worried about him?

Depends on what your initial expectations were.

I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.

You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton, so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.

As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks.

I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here.

the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro?

I think it's because we are hoping he's going to be a great shortstop, not a great Cubs shortstop, which are two very different things, as you've pointed out.

He's stil only 23. His career path is far from being determined. That includes whether or not he'll even be a shortstop once Baez is ready...Baez might wind up being even better than Castro.

Why are we still talking about Castro?

Because this is the Castro thread.

Ok, let's continue then. So is he good? or great? cubs good only? or cubs great?

[J. Walter Weatherman]

Should I be worried about him?

Depends on what your initial expectations were.

I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.

You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton, so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.

As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks.

I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here.

the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro?

I think it's because we are hoping he's going to be a great shortstop, not a great Cubs shortstop, which are two very different things, as you've pointed out.

He's stil only 23. His career path is far from being determined. That includes whether or not he'll even be a shortstop once Baez is ready...Baez might wind up being even better than Castro.

We'll have to see how it plays out.

[Yeti]

One thing's for sure, he's the best SS of our (sans Stew) generation

[Eli]

Good effort, everyone.

[CBStew]

Should I be worried about him?

Depends on what your initial expectations were.

I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.

You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton, so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.

As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks.

I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here.

the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro?

True.  I had the pleasure of watching the great Roy Smalley

[CT III]

Good effort, everyone.

Really?

[CBStew]

One thing's for sure, he's the best SS of our (sans Stew) generation

"Smalley's best season statistically was 1950. He posted career highs in home runs (21), RBI (85), runs (58), hits (128) and doubles (21), including hitting for the cycle on June 28. He struck out a league-leading 114 times. He made 51 errors (the last time a player made at least 50), but he also led NL shortstops in total chances per game, as he had in 1949, and in double plays."

In 1953 they replaced him with some guy named Banks.

[Slaky]

Good effort, everyone.

Really?

Not even a little.

[Quality Start Machine]

One thing's for sure, he's the best SS of our (sans Stew) generation

"Smalley's best season statistically was 1950. He posted career highs in home runs (21), RBI (85), runs (58), hits (128) and doubles (21), including hitting for the cycle on June 28. He struck out a league-leading 114 times. He made 51 errors (the last time a player made at least 50), but he also led NL shortstops in total chances per game, as he had in 1949, and in double plays."

In 1953 they replaced him with some guy named Banks.

Terwilliger-to Smalley-to Addison Street?

[Internet Apex]

Castro has two hits today. Everybody shut up.

[PenFoe]

Castro has two hits today. Everybody shut up.

Two bad things just happened to Starlin Castro: He got thrown out by Travis Snider going for a double down three runs; he twisted an ankle.

Don't try and JO into the DOOOOOOOOMtex, bro.