The Jeff Samardzija Defenestration Thread

[Yeti]

Samarja was a fifth round pick. And didn't Eli or someone mention a while back that part of the reason the Samarja pick was so dumb, was that the Cubs went for a relatively cheap first round pick (Colvin) in order to 'save up' and offer Samarja a big contract in the 5th?

I don't think anyone knows for sure, but that's the theory.  Since the Cubs didn't have 2nd, 3rd or 4th round picks that year, they probably went safe with Colvin because he was seen as a signable college guy who was a decent bet to make the majors, but probably never be a star.  In doing so, they passed over riskier, higher-upside guys like Kyle Drabek and Travis Snider. That left money for them to go after Samardzija, who most teams were afraid of drafting because he was viewed as not very good a tough sign.

THEY SHULD HAAVE TRAYDED 2 GIT LINSEECUM!

Or signed him when they drafted him in the first place?

Thanks for sucking the joyful positive out of me.. Thanks a lot.

[SKO]

Samarja was a fifth round pick. And didn't Eli or someone mention a while back that part of the reason the Samarja pick was so dumb, was that the Cubs went for a relatively cheap first round pick (Colvin) in order to 'save up' and offer Samarja a big contract in the 5th?

I don't think anyone knows for sure, but that's the theory.  Since the Cubs didn't have 2nd, 3rd or 4th round picks that year, they probably went safe with Colvin because he was seen as a signable college guy who was a decent bet to make the majors, but probably never be a star.  In doing so, they passed over riskier, higher-upside guys like Kyle Drabek and Travis Snider. That left money for them to go after Samardzija, who most teams were afraid of drafting because he was viewed as not very good a tough sign.

THEY SHULD HAAVE TRAYDED 2 GIT LINSEECUM!

Or signed him when they drafted him in the first place?

Thanks for sucking the joyful positive out of me.. Thanks a lot.

Sweet Jesus, they drafted Lincecum? I've lost all faith in humanity.

[PenFoe]

Samarja was a fifth round pick. And didn't Eli or someone mention a while back that part of the reason the Samarja pick was so dumb, was that the Cubs went for a relatively cheap first round pick (Colvin) in order to 'save up' and offer Samarja a big contract in the 5th?

I don't think anyone knows for sure, but that's the theory.  Since the Cubs didn't have 2nd, 3rd or 4th round picks that year, they probably went safe with Colvin because he was seen as a signable college guy who was a decent bet to make the majors, but probably never be a star.  In doing so, they passed over riskier, higher-upside guys like Kyle Drabek and Travis Snider. That left money for them to go after Samardzija, who most teams were afraid of drafting because he was viewed as not very good a tough sign.

THEY SHULD HAAVE TRAYDED 2 GIT LINSEECUM!

Or signed him when they drafted him in the first place?

Thanks for sucking the joyful positive out of me.. Thanks a lot.

Sweet Jesus, they drafted Lincecum? I've lost all faith in humanity.

Well, to be fair it was out of high school in the 48th round.
Lincecum correctly predicted that college would bump up his draft status.

This is more kudos to the Cubs for even recognizing his talent at such an early level.

How's that for Joyful Positive??

[Quality Start Machine]

Samarja was a fifth round pick. And didn't Eli or someone mention a while back that part of the reason the Samarja pick was so dumb, was that the Cubs went for a relatively cheap first round pick (Colvin) in order to 'save up' and offer Samarja a big contract in the 5th?

I don't think anyone knows for sure, but that's the theory.  Since the Cubs didn't have 2nd, 3rd or 4th round picks that year, they probably went safe with Colvin because he was seen as a signable college guy who was a decent bet to make the majors, but probably never be a star.  In doing so, they passed over riskier, higher-upside guys like Kyle Drabek and Travis Snider. That left money for them to go after Samardzija, who most teams were afraid of drafting because he was viewed as not very good a tough sign.

THEY SHULD HAAVE TRAYDED 2 GIT LINSEECUM!

Or signed him when they drafted him in the first place?

Thanks for sucking the joyful positive out of me.. Thanks a lot.

Sweet Jesus, they drafted Lincecum? I've lost all faith in humanity.

Well, to be fair it was out of high school in the 48th round.
Lincecum correctly predicted that college would bump up his draft status.

This is more kudos to the Cubs for even recognizing his talent at such an early level.

How's that for Joyful Positive??

Same way Mark Prior went to USC after being drafted late by the Yankees out of HS.

Boy, I bet they're kicking themselves over missing out now.

[Powdered Toast Man]

Samarja was a fifth round pick. And didn't Eli or someone mention a while back that part of the reason the Samarja pick was so dumb, was that the Cubs went for a relatively cheap first round pick (Colvin) in order to 'save up' and offer Samarja a big contract in the 5th?

I don't think anyone knows for sure, but that's the theory.  Since the Cubs didn't have 2nd, 3rd or 4th round picks that year, they probably went safe with Colvin because he was seen as a signable college guy who was a decent bet to make the majors, but probably never be a star.  In doing so, they passed over riskier, higher-upside guys like Kyle Drabek and Travis Snider. That left money for them to go after Samardzija, who most teams were afraid of drafting because he was viewed as not very good a tough sign.

THEY SHULD HAAVE TRAYDED 2 GIT LINSEECUM!

Or signed him when they drafted him in the first place?

JOSH HAMILTON?  TIM LINCECUM?

[PenFoe]

That said....if you do want to get depressed, 1st round picks, 1999-2005 (Colvin was 2006)

Year   Name            Current Status                           Total Major League Games
1999   Ben Christiansen   Out of Baseball                                     0
2000   Luis Montanez   Minor Leagues, Baltimore                        67
2001   Mark Prior           Out of Baseball                                    106
2002   Bobby Brownlie   Newark Bears, Independent League        0
2003   Ryan Harvey   AA, Rockies                                              0
2004   Grant Johnson   Gary, Independent League                        0
2005   Mark Pawelek   A, Cincinnati                                             0

[MAD]

That said....if you do want to get depressed, 1st round picks, 1999-2005 (Colvin was 2006)

Year   Name            Current Status                           Total Major League Games
1999   Ben Christiansen   Out of Baseball                                     0
2000   Luis Montanez   Minor Leagues, Baltimore                        67
2001   Mark Prior           Out of Baseball                                    106
2002   Bobby Brownlie   Newark Bears, Independent League        0
2003   Ryan Harvey   AA, Rockies                                              0
2004   Grant Johnson   Gary, Independent League                        0
2005   Mark Pawelek   A, Cincinnati                                             0

Jesus Christ Jim Hendry's a tub of shit.  I already knew who all the draft picks were but seeing that list the way it is makes me want to vomit.

[CT III]

That said....if you do want to get depressed, 1st round picks, 1999-2005 (Colvin was 2006)

Year   Name            Current Status                           Total Major League Games
1999   Ben Christiansen   Out of Baseball                                     0
2000   Luis Montanez   Minor Leagues, Baltimore                        67
2001   Mark Prior           Out of Baseball                                    106
2002   Bobby Brownlie   Newark Bears, Independent League        0
2003   Ryan Harvey   AA, Rockies                                              0
2004   Grant Johnson   Gary, Independent League                        0
2005   Mark Pawelek   A, Cincinnati                                             0

Hendry's just biding his time until he can trade Brownlie for that final piece to the puzzle.

[Yeti]

That said....if you do want to get depressed, 1st round picks, 1999-2005 (Colvin was 2006)

Year   Name            Current Status                           Total Major League Games
1999   Ben Christiansen   Out of Baseball                                     0
2000   Luis Montanez   Minor Leagues, Baltimore                        67
2001   Mark Prior           Out of Baseball                                    106
2002   Bobby Brownlie   Newark Bears, Independent League        0
2003   Ryan Harvey   AA, Rockies                                              0
2004   Grant Johnson   Gary, Independent League                        0
2005   Mark Pawelek   A, Cincinnati                                             0

Jesus Christ Jim Hendry's a tub of shit.  I already knew who all the draft picks were but seeing that list the way it is makes me want to vomit.

If I'm correct, Hendry hired someone new and that's why the ones from Tyler Colvin to present look decent, right?

[BH]

That said....if you do want to get depressed, 1st round picks, 1999-2005 (Colvin was 2006)

Year   Name            Current Status                           Total Major League Games
1999   Ben Christiansen   Out of Baseball                                     0
2000   Luis Montanez   Minor Leagues, Baltimore                        67
2001   Mark Prior           Out of Baseball                                    106
2002   Bobby Brownlie   Newark Bears, Independent League        0
2003   Ryan Harvey   AA, Rockies                                              0
2004   Grant Johnson   Gary, Independent League                        0
2005   Mark Pawelek   A, Cincinnati                                             0

Jesus Christ Jim Hendry's a tub of shit.  I already knew who all the draft picks were but seeing that list the way it is makes me want to vomit.

If I'm correct, Hendry hired someone new and that's why the ones from Tyler Colvin to present look decent, right?

Yes. Tim Wilkens had a good draft record for the blue jays. He now works for the Cubs. And our prospects seem much better.
Even though I'm sure they'll still suck when my Kubbeez need them.

[Brownie]

That said....if you do want to get depressed, 1st round picks, 1999-2005 (Colvin was 2006)

Year   Name            Current Status                           Total Major League Games
1999   Ben Christiansen   Out of Baseball                                     0
2000   Luis Montanez   Minor Leagues, Baltimore                        67
2001   Mark Prior           Out of Baseball                                    106
2002   Bobby Brownlie   Newark Bears, Independent League        0
2003   Ryan Harvey   AA, Rockies                                              0
2004   Grant Johnson   Gary, Independent League                        0
2005   Mark Pawelek   A, Cincinnati                                             0

Jesus Christ Jim Hendry's a tub of shit.  I already knew who all the draft picks were but seeing that list the way it is makes me want to vomit.

If I'm correct, Hendry hired someone new and that's why the ones from Tyler Colvin to present look decent, right?

Probably. But let's just consider where this team was when Colvin was drafted. I think his introduction to the Cubs brass went like this.

[R-V]

That said....if you do want to get depressed, 1st round picks, 1999-2005 (Colvin was 2006)

Year   Name            Current Status                           Total Major League Games
1999   Ben Christiansen   Out of Baseball                                     0
2000   Luis Montanez   Minor Leagues, Baltimore                        67
2001   Mark Prior           Out of Baseball                                    106
2002   Bobby Brownlie   Newark Bears, Independent League        0
2003   Ryan Harvey   AA, Rockies                                              0
2004   Grant Johnson   Gary, Independent League                        0
2005   Mark Pawelek   A, Cincinnati                                             0

Jesus Christ Jim Hendry's a tub of shit.  I already knew who all the draft picks were but seeing that list the way it is makes me want to vomit.

If I'm correct, Hendry hired someone new and that's why the ones from Tyler Colvin to present look decent, right?

Correct.

[PenFoe]

That said....if you do want to get depressed, 1st round picks, 1999-2005 (Colvin was 2006)

Year   Name            Current Status                           Total Major League Games
1999   Ben Christiansen   Out of Baseball                                     0
2000   Luis Montanez   Minor Leagues, Baltimore                        67
2001   Mark Prior           Out of Baseball                                    106
2002   Bobby Brownlie   Newark Bears, Independent League        0
2003   Ryan Harvey   AA, Rockies                                              0
2004   Grant Johnson   Gary, Independent League                        0
2005   Mark Pawelek   A, Cincinnati                                             0

Jesus Christ Jim Hendry's a tub of shit.  I already knew who all the draft picks were but seeing that list the way it is makes me want to vomit.

If I'm correct, Hendry hired someone new and that's why the ones from Tyler Colvin to present look decent, right?

Correct.

Based on nothing but that article, he sounds like an asshole.

[Pre]

That said....if you do want to get depressed, 1st round picks, 1999-2005 (Colvin was 2006)

Year   Name            Current Status                           Total Major League Games
1999   Ben Christiansen   Out of Baseball                                     0
2000   Luis Montanez   Minor Leagues, Baltimore                        67
2001   Mark Prior           Out of Baseball                                    106
2002   Bobby Brownlie   Newark Bears, Independent League        0
2003   Ryan Harvey   AA, Rockies                                              0
2004   Grant Johnson   Gary, Independent League                        0
2005   Mark Pawelek   A, Cincinnati                                             0

Jesus Christ Jim Hendry's a tub of shit.  I already knew who all the draft picks were but seeing that list the way it is makes me want to vomit.

Before you all get your panties in a bunch, let's see how all the recent World Series champions have done...

Yankees

  2005   Carl Henry, ss   17
  2004   Philip Hughes, rhp   23
  2003   Eric Duncan   27
  2002   NONE   --
  2001   John Ford-Griffin, 3b   23
  2000   David Parrish, c   28
  1999   Danny Walling, rhp   27

Cardinals

  2005   Colby Rasmus, cf   28
  2004   Christopher Lambert, rhp   19
  2003   Daric Barton, c   28
  2002   NONE   --
  2001   Justin Pope, rhp   28
  2000   Shaun Boyd, 2b   13
  1999   Chance Caple, rhp   30

White Sox

  2005   Lance Broadway, rhp   15
  2004   Joshua Fields, 3b   18
  2002   Royce Ring, lhp   18
  2001   Kris Honel, rhp   16
  2000   Joe Borchard, rf   12
  1999   Jason Stumm, rhp   15
  1999   Matt Ginter, rhp   22

Red Sox

  2005   Jacob Ellsbury, cf   23
  2004   NONE   --
  2003   David Murphy, of   17
  2002   NONE   --
  2001   NONE   --
  2000   Phillip Dumatrait, lhp   22
  1999   Rick Asadoorian, of   17

Phillies

    2005   NONE   --
    2004   Gregory Golson, cf   21
    2003   Timothy Moss, 2b   85
    2002   Cole Hamels, rhp   17
    2001   Gavin Floyd, rhp   4
    2000   Chase Utley, 2b   15
    1999   Brett Myers, rhp   12

Had Prior stayed healthy, the Cubs would have done as well in the 1st as any other team than the Phillies.

I mean, it's not a _good_ list, but it's pretty much par for the MLB.  I think the Cubs refusal to spend serious
money on scouting and development was a far bigger issue and something to hate the Tribune for.  The
Tribune ran the organization for total shit until the last couple years as they tried to throw on a new coat of
paint to sell.

[PenFoe]

That said....if you do want to get depressed, 1st round picks, 1999-2005 (Colvin was 2006)

Year   Name            Current Status                           Total Major League Games
1999   Ben Christiansen   Out of Baseball                                     0
2000   Luis Montanez   Minor Leagues, Baltimore                        67
2001   Mark Prior           Out of Baseball                                    106
2002   Bobby Brownlie   Newark Bears, Independent League        0
2003   Ryan Harvey   AA, Rockies                                              0
2004   Grant Johnson   Gary, Independent League                        0
2005   Mark Pawelek   A, Cincinnati                                             0

Jesus Christ Jim Hendry's a tub of shit.  I already knew who all the draft picks were but seeing that list the way it is makes me want to vomit.

Before you all get your panties in a bunch, let's see how all the recent World Series champions have done...

Yankees

  2005   Carl Henry, ss   17
  2004   Philip Hughes, rhp   23
  2003   Eric Duncan   27
  2002   NONE   --
  2001   John Ford-Griffin, 3b   23
  2000   David Parrish, c   28
  1999   Danny Walling, rhp   27

Cardinals

  2005   Colby Rasmus, cf   28
  2004   Christopher Lambert, rhp   19
  2003   Daric Barton, c   28
  2002   NONE   --
  2001   Justin Pope, rhp   28
  2000   Shaun Boyd, 2b   13
  1999   Chance Caple, rhp   30

White Sox

  2005   Lance Broadway, rhp   15
  2004   Joshua Fields, 3b   18
  2002   Royce Ring, lhp   18
  2001   Kris Honel, rhp   16
  2000   Joe Borchard, rf   12
  1999   Jason Stumm, rhp   15
  1999   Matt Ginter, rhp   22

Red Sox

  2005   Jacob Ellsbury, cf   23
  2004   NONE   --
  2003   David Murphy, of   17
  2002   NONE   --
  2001   NONE   --
  2000   Phillip Dumatrait, lhp   22
  1999   Rick Asadoorian, of   17

Phillies

    2005   NONE   --
    2004   Gregory Golson, cf   21
    2003   Timothy Moss, 2b   85
    2002   Cole Hamels, rhp   17
    2001   Gavin Floyd, rhp   4
    2000   Chase Utley, 2b   15
    1999   Brett Myers, rhp   12

Had Prior stayed healthy, the Cubs would have done as well in the 1st as any other team than the Phillies.

I mean, it's not a _good_ list, but it's pretty much par for the MLB.  I think the Cubs refusal to spend serious
money on scouting and development was a far bigger issue and something to hate the Tribune for.  The
Tribune ran the organization for total shit until the last couple years as they tried to throw on a new coat of
paint to sell.

Why are the Cardinals and White Sox on this list?
Weirdo.