The Jeff Samardzija Defenestration Thread

[Armchair_QB]

I'm stunned to discover Luis Montanez played in that many major league games.

[PenFoe]

I'm stunned to discover Luis Montanez played in that many major league games.

They were all 08-09 in Baltimore.

[Bort]

I'm stunned to discover Luis Montanez played in that many major league games.

They were all 08-09 in Baltimore.

Wait, playing for Baltimore counts as Major League experience? You learn something new every day.

[CBStew]

"Lance Broadway"?  Wasn't he in a recent episode of "Glee"?

[MAD]

Had Prior stayed healthy, the Cubs would have done as well in the 1st as any other team than the Phillies.

But he didn't.

I mean, if a plane crashed into Colby Rasmus' house, killing him, the Cardinals'  list would be seriously fucked.  

Come on.  5 out of those  7 guys never even played in a single major league game, and of those 5, only 1 made it as high as AA.  As bad as some of those other names were, many of them at least made the bigs (or, I can assume above double-freaking A).

I'm not asking for our corpulent GM to have drafted guys who were all big-league studs.  Just guys who aren't out of fucking pro baseball within 4 years.

And I like my panties bunched, thankyouverymuch.

[CT III]

Had Prior stayed healthy, the Cubs would have done as well in the 1st as any other team than the Phillies.

But he didn't.

I mean, if a plane crashed into Colby Rasmus' house, killing him, the Cardinals'  list would be seriously fucked.  

Come on.  5 out of those  7 guys never even played in a single major league game, and of those 5, only 1 made it as high as AA.  As bad as some of those other names were, many of them at least made the bigs (or, I can assume above double-freaking A).

I'm not asking for our corpulent GM to have drafted guys who were all big-league studs.  Just guys who aren't out of fucking pro baseball within 4 years.

And I like my panties bunched, thankyouverymuch.

I just ask that he trade guys like Brownlie and Pie when they actually have some fucking value and not afterwards.

[Chuck to Chuck]

I just ask that he trade guys like Brownlie and Pie when they actually have some fucking value and not afterwards.

He got Lee for Choi.  You want more?

[SKO]

I just ask that he trade guys like Brownlie and Pie when they actually have some fucking value and not afterwards.

He got Lee for Choi.  You want more?

Bobby Hill and Jose Hernandez for Ramirez and Lofton was a much, much bigger depantsing.

[Saul Goodman]

That said....if you do want to get depressed, 1st round picks, 1999-2005 (Colvin was 2006)

Year   Name            Current Status                           Total Major League Games
1999   Ben Christiansen   Out of Baseball                                     0
2000   Luis Montanez   Minor Leagues, Baltimore                        67
2001   Mark Prior           Out of Baseball                                    106
2002   Bobby Brownlie   Newark Bears, Independent League        0
2003   Ryan Harvey   AA, Rockies                                              0
2004   Grant Johnson   Gary, Independent League                        0
2005   Mark Pawelek   A, Cincinnati                                             0

Jesus Christ Jim Hendry's a tub of shit.  I already knew who all the draft picks were but seeing that list the way it is makes me want to vomit.

If I'm correct, Hendry hired someone new and that's why the ones from Tyler Colvin to present look decent, right?

Correct.

Not so fast.

We didn't really do it by design, as we thought those guys were our best options, talent-wise, when we picked--in the case of Samardzija, one of the best in the whole draft.

[BH]

Had Prior stayed healthy, the Cubs would have done as well in the 1st as any other team than the Phillies.

But he didn't.

I mean, if a plane crashed into Colby Rasmus' house, killing him, the Cardinals'  list would be seriously fucked.  

Come on.  5 out of those  7 guys never even played in a single major league game, and of those 5, only 1 made it as high as AA.  As bad as some of those other names were, many of them at least made the bigs (or, I can assume above double-freaking A).

I'm not asking for our corpulent GM to have drafted guys who were all big-league studs.  Just guys who aren't out of fucking pro baseball within 4 years.

And I like my panties bunched, thankyouverymuch.

I just ask that he trade guys like Brownlie and Pie when they actually have some fucking value and not afterwards.

When did Brownlie ever have any fucking value? I don't think you can trade a guy before you draft him.

[MAD]

Had Prior stayed healthy, the Cubs would have done as well in the 1st as any other team than the Phillies.

But he didn't.

I mean, if a plane crashed into Colby Rasmus' house, killing him, the Cardinals'  list would be seriously fucked.  

Come on.  5 out of those  7 guys never even played in a single major league game, and of those 5, only 1 made it as high as AA.  As bad as some of those other names were, many of them at least made the bigs (or, I can assume above double-freaking A).

I'm not asking for our corpulent GM to have drafted guys who were all big-league studs.  Just guys who aren't out of fucking pro baseball within 4 years.

And I like my panties bunched, thankyouverymuch.

I just ask that he trade guys like Brownlie and Pie when they actually have some fucking value and not afterwards.

When did Brownlie ever have any fucking value? I don't think you can trade a guy before you draft him.

He had value before the Cubs drafted him; before he blew out his arm.

[Chuck to Chuck]

I just ask that he trade guys like Brownlie and Pie when they actually have some fucking value and not afterwards.

He got Lee for Choi.  You want more?

Bobby Hill and Jose Hernandez for Ramirez and Lofton was a much, much bigger depantsing.

Yes, but people weren't on love with Hill and Jose like they were with Choi.

[Canadouche]

Had Prior stayed healthy, the Cubs would have done as well in the 1st as any other team than the Phillies.

I mean, it's not a _good_ list, but it's pretty much par for the MLB.  I think the Cubs refusal to spend serious
money on scouting and development was a far bigger issue and something to hate the Tribune for.  The
Tribune ran the organization for total shit until the last couple years as they tried to throw on a new coat of
paint to sell.

Except all of the players from the other teams actually made the majors, while the Cubs only had two, none of those teams were as consistently poor as the Cubs were when they were grabbing their first round draft picks (the Cubs won fewer than 70 games in 3 of those seasons, whereas all of those teams were drafting from the middle or end of the first round pretty much every single one of those years) and, most importantly of all ... unlike every team you are comparing them to, the Cubs never won a World Series in the 00's.  Why you'd compare the Cubs draft habits to perpetually successful baseball franchises is beyond me; the comparison totally irrelevant. 

I get that you're not really trying to be an apologist for how ridiculously shitty an appraiser of talent Jim Hendry is, but make no mistake.  Jim Hendry is a ridiculously shitty appraiser of talent. 

[Slaky]

We are going to THROW Jeffery out a window.

[SKO]

Had Prior stayed healthy, the Cubs would have done as well in the 1st as any other team than the Phillies.

I mean, it's not a _good_ list, but it's pretty much par for the MLB.  I think the Cubs refusal to spend serious
money on scouting and development was a far bigger issue and something to hate the Tribune for.  The
Tribune ran the organization for total shit until the last couple years as they tried to throw on a new coat of
paint to sell.

Except all of the players from the other teams actually made the majors, while the Cubs only had two, none of those teams were as consistently poor as the Cubs were when they were grabbing their first round draft picks (the Cubs won fewer than 70 games in 3 of those seasons, whereas all of those teams were drafting from the middle or end of the first round pretty much every single one of those years) and, most importantly of all ... unlike every team you are comparing them to, the Cubs never won a World Series in the 00's.  Why you'd compare the Cubs draft habits to perpetually successful baseball franchises is beyond me; the comparison totally irrelevant. 

I get that you're not really trying to be an apologist for how ridiculously shitty an appraiser of talent Jim Hendry is, but make no mistake.  Jim Hendry is a ridiculously shitty appraiser of talent. 

If you were anyone other than you, I'd THIS this.