The Jeff Samardzija Defenestration Thread

[Eli]

Especially after refusing to understand what the Cubs were trying to do.

I'm sure he understood what they were doing. Doesn't mean he had to like it, as a player.

[InternetApex]

Some random dude on Twitter is tweeting at anyone and everyone that his friend knows Snork or whatever and the Cubs are going to announce at 4/$65 mil deal this week:

https://twitter.com/ZlaticAlex/with_replies

I'm mostly posting it to antagonize Bort, not because I really believe it.

His conversation with AL has the making of something truly special.  HE WANTS DETAILS DAMNIT!

Conversely, I would be pretty happy with 4/65 for Snork.

My favorite was that guy having to explain to Al the ins and outs of how DMs work.

But yes, I agree that 4/$65 would be a nice value for Shark, especially if you buy the idea that Cooper messed him up and Bosio can fix him.

The only way this deal is good for the Cubs is if there's a guarantee Bosio is here for the entirety of it.

I'm not sure why he wouldn't be.

Somebody could offer him more money, or maybe he wants a managing gig?

But if the Cubs are going to invest that kind of dough based upon a pitcher's success with a pitching coach, shouldn't they also protect the investment by giving Bosio a deal to match in terms of length?

What if Snork still sucks?

Well, objectively speaking, as much as everyone may hate him, he doesn't actually suck.

His 2015 was fairly sucky. It's just a matter of whether you believe he's more 2014 Snork or 2015 Snork.

His career as a starter:



He's a pile of meh.

800+ innings of a 3.69 FIP isn't meh.

Yeah, that's like Brandon McCarthy, Bronson Arroyo territory.

*consults imaginary physician regarding air boner lasting more than four hours*

Brandon McCarthy has never managed to put together multiple 200 inning seasons, and actually is a pretty good pitcher when healthy, which is almost never. Which is actually part of Snork's appeal, because it turns out that when investing a lot of money in a pitcher it helps to invest it in one who doesn't get hurt a lot.

Look here, kiddo. I have an agenda. And if you think you're going to derail this train with your inexplicable bullshit toleration and fuzzy laptop science, pack a lunch.

I don't want Snork back either. The White Sox might have broken him, and I just don't like him. Don't ruin this unbelievably likable team with his lame ass. Especially after refusing to understand what the Cubs were trying to do.

These people would bring back Snork and trade Soler because REASONS. It's just too much to fucking fathom. These are people who I normally like too. Which means I'm bad at picking friends or something.

[Quality Start Machine]

These people would bring back Snork and trade Soler because REASONS. It's just too much to fucking fathom. These are people who I normally like too. Which means I'm bad at picking friends or something.

Your friends are worse at it.

[InternetApex]

Especially after refusing to understand what the Cubs were trying to do.

I'm sure he understood what they were doing. Doesn't mean he had to like it, as a player.

And as a result of that attitude, the Cubs were able to nab Addison Russell and some other turd that should be traded instead of Soler. So, back then his inflated sense of self-worth worked out to our benefit. This should make me hate him less but it doesn't. If things don't go well for him he'd likely end up in the bullpen and I dare say he won't take that well.

[InternetApex]

These people would bring back Snork and trade Soler because REASONS. It's just too much to fucking fathom. These are people who I normally like too. Which means I'm bad at picking friends or something.

Your friends are worse at it.

Lucky for both of us then because otherwise we'd have none.

[SKO]

Especially after refusing to understand what the Cubs were trying to do.

I'm sure he understood what they were doing. Doesn't mean he had to like it, as a player.

And as a result of that attitude, the Cubs were able to nab Addison Russell and some other turd that should be traded instead of Soler. So, back then his inflated sense of self-worth worked out to our benefit. This should make me hate him less but it doesn't. If things don't go well for him he'd likely end up in the bullpen and I dare say he won't take that well.

I think you're really overstating how badly people want to trade Soler. I think Eli mentioned trading him for Felix Hernandez. I'd need somebody that good or better to throw Jorge into the deal. I ain't trading him for some slapdick third starter from Tampa Bay or whatever.

[InternetApex]

Especially after refusing to understand what the Cubs were trying to do.

I'm sure he understood what they were doing. Doesn't mean he had to like it, as a player.

And as a result of that attitude, the Cubs were able to nab Addison Russell and some other turd that should be traded instead of Soler. So, back then his inflated sense of self-worth worked out to our benefit. This should make me hate him less but it doesn't. If things don't go well for him he'd likely end up in the bullpen and I dare say he won't take that well.

I think you're really overstating how badly people want to trade Soler. I think Eli mentioned trading him for Felix Hernandez. I'd need somebody that good or better to throw Jorge into the deal. I ain't trading him for some slapdick third starter from Tampa Bay or whatever.

What about Tyson Ross?

[SKO]

Especially after refusing to understand what the Cubs were trying to do.

I'm sure he understood what they were doing. Doesn't mean he had to like it, as a player.

And as a result of that attitude, the Cubs were able to nab Addison Russell and some other turd that should be traded instead of Soler. So, back then his inflated sense of self-worth worked out to our benefit. This should make me hate him less but it doesn't. If things don't go well for him he'd likely end up in the bullpen and I dare say he won't take that well.

I think you're really overstating how badly people want to trade Soler. I think Eli mentioned trading him for Felix Hernandez. I'd need somebody that good or better to throw Jorge into the deal. I ain't trading him for some slapdick third starter from Tampa Bay or whatever.

What about Tyson Ross?

Nay. My butthurt in such an instance could be mitigated if they announced the signing of Jason Heyward that same day, but I would still be opposed to the idea that Tyson Ross merits a Jorge Soler on principle.

[InternetApex]

Especially after refusing to understand what the Cubs were trying to do.

I'm sure he understood what they were doing. Doesn't mean he had to like it, as a player.

And as a result of that attitude, the Cubs were able to nab Addison Russell and some other turd that should be traded instead of Soler. So, back then his inflated sense of self-worth worked out to our benefit. This should make me hate him less but it doesn't. If things don't go well for him he'd likely end up in the bullpen and I dare say he won't take that well.

I think you're really overstating how badly people want to trade Soler. I think Eli mentioned trading him for Felix Hernandez. I'd need somebody that good or better to throw Jorge into the deal. I ain't trading him for some slapdick third starter from Tampa Bay or whatever.

What about Tyson Ross?

Nay. My butthurt in such an instance could be mitigated if they announced the signing of Jason Heyward that same day, but I would still be opposed to the idea that Tyson Ross merits a Jorge Soler on principle.

Ok.

[Quality Start Machine]

Especially after refusing to understand what the Cubs were trying to do.

I'm sure he understood what they were doing. Doesn't mean he had to like it, as a player.

And as a result of that attitude, the Cubs were able to nab Addison Russell and some other turd that should be traded instead of Soler. So, back then his inflated sense of self-worth worked out to our benefit. This should make me hate him less but it doesn't. If things don't go well for him he'd likely end up in the bullpen and I dare say he won't take that well.

I think you're really overstating how badly people want to trade Soler. I think Eli mentioned trading him for Felix Hernandez. I'd need somebody that good or better to throw Jorge into the deal. I ain't trading him for some slapdick third starter from Tampa Bay or whatever.

What has Jepstink done to indicate this is in the realm of the possible?

[SKO]

Especially after refusing to understand what the Cubs were trying to do.

I'm sure he understood what they were doing. Doesn't mean he had to like it, as a player.

And as a result of that attitude, the Cubs were able to nab Addison Russell and some other turd that should be traded instead of Soler. So, back then his inflated sense of self-worth worked out to our benefit. This should make me hate him less but it doesn't. If things don't go well for him he'd likely end up in the bullpen and I dare say he won't take that well.

I think you're really overstating how badly people want to trade Soler. I think Eli mentioned trading him for Felix Hernandez. I'd need somebody that good or better to throw Jorge into the deal. I ain't trading him for some slapdick third starter from Tampa Bay or whatever.

What has Jepstink done to indicate this is in the realm of the possible?

The hell does that even mean? They've traded for people before? Sometimes really good ones? They once traded Hanley Ramirez for Josh Beckett? They're major league baseball GMs?

[Oleg]

I guess 65MM was a bit low.

[SKO]

I guess 65MM was a bit low.

God that's got to be bullshit. If it's not, hello Scott Kazmir and John Lackey! Pay Fowler or Heyward and let's all go home.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

I guess 65MM was a bit low.

God that's got to be bullshit. If it's not, hello Scott Kazmir and John Lackey! Pay Fowler or Heyward and let's all go home.

That information comes from Samardzija's "representatives" so I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit on the grounds that his team is just trying to drum up interest by artifically inflating demand for him.

[Bort]

I guess 65MM was a bit low.

God that's got to be bullshit. If it's not, hello Scott Kazmir and John Lackey! Pay Fowler or Heyward and let's all go home.

I took one look at that headline and thought "FUUUUUCK that."