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Re: Ricketts Family Annoyance Thread
« Reply #660 on: January 22, 2014, 11:45:11 AM »
Quote from: Slaky on January 22, 2014, 11:39:44 AM
Not sure guys. I think I'm done.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/25113883-418/wrigley-field-deal-fell-apart-at-stormy-session-with-cubs-rooftop-owners.html



I haven't followed all this very closely, but I guess I have never understood why rooftop owners feel they have the right to a clear view inside Wrigley Field.

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Re: Ricketts Family Annoyance Thread
« Reply #661 on: January 22, 2014, 11:49:05 AM »
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: Slaky on January 22, 2014, 11:39:44 AM
Not sure guys. I think I'm done.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/25113883-418/wrigley-field-deal-fell-apart-at-stormy-session-with-cubs-rooftop-owners.html



I haven't followed all this very closely, but I guess I have never understood why rooftop owners feel they have the right to a clear view inside Wrigley Field.

Who owns the view is a big legal question.

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Re: Ricketts Family Annoyance Thread
« Reply #662 on: January 22, 2014, 11:58:58 AM »
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 22, 2014, 11:49:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: Slaky on January 22, 2014, 11:39:44 AM
Not sure guys. I think I'm done.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/25113883-418/wrigley-field-deal-fell-apart-at-stormy-session-with-cubs-rooftop-owners.html



I haven't followed all this very closely, but I guess I have never understood why rooftop owners feel they have the right to a clear view inside Wrigley Field.

Who owns the view is a big legal question.

I understand that it's a complicated legal issue. But from a common-sense perspective, I don't think the rooftops owners deserve anything. Again, just me.

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Re: Ricketts Family Annoyance Thread
« Reply #663 on: January 22, 2014, 12:07:51 PM »
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:58:58 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 22, 2014, 11:49:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: Slaky on January 22, 2014, 11:39:44 AM
Not sure guys. I think I'm done.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/25113883-418/wrigley-field-deal-fell-apart-at-stormy-session-with-cubs-rooftop-owners.html



I haven't followed all this very closely, but I guess I have never understood why rooftop owners feel they have the right to a clear view inside Wrigley Field.

Who owns the view is a big legal question.

I understand that it's a complicated legal issue. But from a common-sense perspective, I don't think the rooftops owners deserve anything. Again, just me.

I would very much like to see someone raze their fucking buildings overnight. I don't care who is inside.

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Re: Ricketts Family Annoyance Thread
« Reply #664 on: January 22, 2014, 12:14:25 PM »
Quote from: Slaky on January 22, 2014, 12:07:51 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:58:58 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 22, 2014, 11:49:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: Slaky on January 22, 2014, 11:39:44 AM
Not sure guys. I think I'm done.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/25113883-418/wrigley-field-deal-fell-apart-at-stormy-session-with-cubs-rooftop-owners.html



I haven't followed all this very closely, but I guess I have never understood why rooftop owners feel they have the right to a clear view inside Wrigley Field.

Who owns the view is a big legal question.

I understand that it's a complicated legal issue. But from a common-sense perspective, I don't think the rooftops owners deserve anything. Again, just me.

I would very much like to see someone raze their fucking buildings overnight. I don't care who is inside.

Mayor Daley, Chicago needs you.  He hates the Cubs, he loves tearing shit up at midnight, he's a perfect fit.
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Re: Ricketts Family Annoyance Thread
« Reply #665 on: January 22, 2014, 12:16:12 PM »
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:58:58 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 22, 2014, 11:49:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: Slaky on January 22, 2014, 11:39:44 AM
Not sure guys. I think I'm done.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/25113883-418/wrigley-field-deal-fell-apart-at-stormy-session-with-cubs-rooftop-owners.html



I haven't followed all this very closely, but I guess I have never understood why rooftop owners feel they have the right to a clear view inside Wrigley Field.

Who owns the view is a big legal question.

I understand that it's a complicated legal issue. But from a common-sense perspective, I don't think the rooftops owners deserve anything. Again, just me.

Question for the lawyers of the board since it's not mentioned in that article. It's been a while since I studied land use/property law, but I seem to recall there being easements that property owners can get which "run with the land" and allow the owner of the property the right to a viewshed (usually for beachside properties, but this would seem to be the same principle)? Do the rooftop owners have such easements?

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Re: Ricketts Family Annoyance Thread
« Reply #666 on: January 22, 2014, 12:23:30 PM »
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:58:58 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 22, 2014, 11:49:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: Slaky on January 22, 2014, 11:39:44 AM
Not sure guys. I think I'm done.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/25113883-418/wrigley-field-deal-fell-apart-at-stormy-session-with-cubs-rooftop-owners.html



I haven't followed all this very closely, but I guess I have never understood why rooftop owners feel they have the right to a clear view inside Wrigley Field.

Who owns the view is a big legal question.

I understand that it's a complicated legal issue. But from a common-sense perspective, I don't think the rooftops owners deserve anything. Again, just me.

I give the rooftops credit for turning three dudes hanging out with a grill into bleachers packed with 100+ paying customers. Couldn't the Cubs, back in the day, have bought up all those buildings themselves for a song and done the same thing themselves?

Still, that doesn't give the roofies ownership of the view, and reduces my desire to see the rooftops burned to the ground very little.

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Re: Ricketts Family Annoyance Thread
« Reply #667 on: January 22, 2014, 12:24:39 PM »
Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 22, 2014, 12:14:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on January 22, 2014, 12:07:51 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:58:58 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 22, 2014, 11:49:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: Slaky on January 22, 2014, 11:39:44 AM
Not sure guys. I think I'm done.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/25113883-418/wrigley-field-deal-fell-apart-at-stormy-session-with-cubs-rooftop-owners.html



I haven't followed all this very closely, but I guess I have never understood why rooftop owners feel they have the right to a clear view inside Wrigley Field.

Who owns the view is a big legal question.

I understand that it's a complicated legal issue. But from a common-sense perspective, I don't think the rooftops owners deserve anything. Again, just me.

I would very much like to see someone raze their fucking buildings overnight. I don't care who is inside.

Mayor Daley, Chicago needs you.  He hates the Cubs, he loves tearing shit up at midnight, he's a perfect fit.

Rahm seems to have the all tools he needs.
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Re: Ricketts Family Annoyance Thread
« Reply #668 on: January 22, 2014, 12:36:08 PM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 22, 2014, 12:24:39 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 22, 2014, 12:14:25 PM
Quote from: Slaky on January 22, 2014, 12:07:51 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:58:58 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 22, 2014, 11:49:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: Slaky on January 22, 2014, 11:39:44 AM
Not sure guys. I think I'm done.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/25113883-418/wrigley-field-deal-fell-apart-at-stormy-session-with-cubs-rooftop-owners.html



I haven't followed all this very closely, but I guess I have never understood why rooftop owners feel they have the right to a clear view inside Wrigley Field.

Who owns the view is a big legal question.

I understand that it's a complicated legal issue. But from a common-sense perspective, I don't think the rooftops owners deserve anything. Again, just me.

I would very much like to see someone raze their fucking buildings overnight. I don't care who is inside.

Mayor Daley, Chicago needs you.  He hates the Cubs, he loves tearing shit up at midnight, he's a perfect fit.

Rahm seems to have the all tools he needs.

Probably a good idea, Daley might "accidentally" swerve into, say, the left field bleachers.  Actually, no.  Go ahead.
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Re: Ricketts Family Annoyance Thread
« Reply #669 on: January 22, 2014, 12:42:45 PM »
Quote from: motown on January 22, 2014, 12:23:30 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:58:58 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 22, 2014, 11:49:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: Slaky on January 22, 2014, 11:39:44 AM
Not sure guys. I think I'm done.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/25113883-418/wrigley-field-deal-fell-apart-at-stormy-session-with-cubs-rooftop-owners.html



I haven't followed all this very closely, but I guess I have never understood why rooftop owners feel they have the right to a clear view inside Wrigley Field.

Who owns the view is a big legal question.

I understand that it's a complicated legal issue. But from a common-sense perspective, I don't think the rooftops owners deserve anything. Again, just me.

I give the rooftops credit for turning three dudes hanging out with a grill into bleachers packed with 100+ paying customers. Couldn't the Cubs, back in the day, have bought up all those buildings themselves for a song and done the same thing themselves?

Still, that doesn't give the roofies ownership of the view, and reduces my desire to see the rooftops burned to the ground very little.

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Re: Ricketts Family Annoyance Thread
« Reply #670 on: January 22, 2014, 01:19:34 PM »
Quote from: ChuckD on January 22, 2014, 12:16:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:58:58 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 22, 2014, 11:49:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: Slaky on January 22, 2014, 11:39:44 AM
Not sure guys. I think I'm done.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/25113883-418/wrigley-field-deal-fell-apart-at-stormy-session-with-cubs-rooftop-owners.html



I haven't followed all this very closely, but I guess I have never understood why rooftop owners feel they have the right to a clear view inside Wrigley Field.

Who owns the view is a big legal question.

I understand that it's a complicated legal issue. But from a common-sense perspective, I don't think the rooftops owners deserve anything. Again, just me.

Question for the lawyers of the board since it's not mentioned in that article. It's been a while since I studied land use/property law, but I seem to recall there being easements that property owners can get which "run with the land" and allow the owner of the property the right to a viewshed (usually for beachside properties, but this would seem to be the same principle)? Do the rooftop owners have such easements?

I just saw the roofies more or less under the same principle as stealing cable. Getting the goods and services without paying for it. Would that type of law be more applicable?
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Re: Ricketts Family Annoyance Thread
« Reply #671 on: January 22, 2014, 02:07:11 PM »
Quote from: ChuckD on January 22, 2014, 12:16:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:58:58 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 22, 2014, 11:49:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: Slaky on January 22, 2014, 11:39:44 AM
Not sure guys. I think I'm done.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/25113883-418/wrigley-field-deal-fell-apart-at-stormy-session-with-cubs-rooftop-owners.html



I haven't followed all this very closely, but I guess I have never understood why rooftop owners feel they have the right to a clear view inside Wrigley Field.

Who owns the view is a big legal question.

I understand that it's a complicated legal issue. But from a common-sense perspective, I don't think the rooftops owners deserve anything. Again, just me.

Question for the lawyers of the board since it's not mentioned in that article. It's been a while since I studied land use/property law, but I seem to recall there being easements that property owners can get which "run with the land" and allow the owner of the property the right to a viewshed (usually for beachside properties, but this would seem to be the same principle)? Do the rooftop owners have such easements?

I had always assumed that the revenue sharing agreement that the two sides signed probably afforded some sort of protection to the rooftop owners view.  Nice choice, Crane.

Also, this shit is just infuriating:

QuoteSources said the rooftop owners demanded that the massive video scoreboard planned for left-field also be moved to the top of a rooftop building.

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Re: Ricketts Family Annoyance Thread
« Reply #672 on: January 22, 2014, 02:08:45 PM »
Quote from: CT III on January 22, 2014, 02:07:11 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on January 22, 2014, 12:16:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:58:58 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 22, 2014, 11:49:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: Slaky on January 22, 2014, 11:39:44 AM
Not sure guys. I think I'm done.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/25113883-418/wrigley-field-deal-fell-apart-at-stormy-session-with-cubs-rooftop-owners.html



I haven't followed all this very closely, but I guess I have never understood why rooftop owners feel they have the right to a clear view inside Wrigley Field.

Who owns the view is a big legal question.

I understand that it's a complicated legal issue. But from a common-sense perspective, I don't think the rooftops owners deserve anything. Again, just me.

Question for the lawyers of the board since it's not mentioned in that article. It's been a while since I studied land use/property law, but I seem to recall there being easements that property owners can get which "run with the land" and allow the owner of the property the right to a viewshed (usually for beachside properties, but this would seem to be the same principle)? Do the rooftop owners have such easements?

I had always assumed that the revenue sharing agreement that the two sides signed probably afforded some sort of protection to the rooftop owners view.  Nice choice, Crane.

Also, this shit is just infuriating:

QuoteSources said the rooftop owners demanded that the massive video scoreboard planned for left-field also be moved to the top of a rooftop building.

HAHA. Yeah, just put that scoreboard on my building. Yep.

Oh that's mine now, btw. I'm gonna show some movies on it when the Cubs aren't playing and make more money.

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Re: Ricketts Family Annoyance Thread
« Reply #673 on: January 22, 2014, 02:57:47 PM »
Quote from: Fork on January 22, 2014, 01:19:34 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on January 22, 2014, 12:16:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:58:58 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 22, 2014, 11:49:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: Slaky on January 22, 2014, 11:39:44 AM
Not sure guys. I think I'm done.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/25113883-418/wrigley-field-deal-fell-apart-at-stormy-session-with-cubs-rooftop-owners.html



I haven't followed all this very closely, but I guess I have never understood why rooftop owners feel they have the right to a clear view inside Wrigley Field.

Who owns the view is a big legal question.

I understand that it's a complicated legal issue. But from a common-sense perspective, I don't think the rooftops owners deserve anything. Again, just me.

Question for the lawyers of the board since it's not mentioned in that article. It's been a while since I studied land use/property law, but I seem to recall there being easements that property owners can get which "run with the land" and allow the owner of the property the right to a viewshed (usually for beachside properties, but this would seem to be the same principle)? Do the rooftop owners have such easements?

I just saw the roofies more or less under the same principle as stealing cable. Getting the goods and services without paying for it. Would that type of law be more applicable?

That may had been the case in the past, but the rooftop owners have been paying 17% of their gross to the Cubs for a while now.  Apparently the revenue sharing deal has some language that could be construed as saying that in exchange for those payments the Cubs will not make changes to the bleachers that would adversely effect the views, but it is apparently far from clear exactly what the langague says or how it applies here (which is what courts are for).
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Re: Ricketts Family Annoyance Thread
« Reply #674 on: January 22, 2014, 03:21:37 PM »
Quote from: Slaky on January 22, 2014, 12:07:51 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:58:58 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 22, 2014, 11:49:05 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: Slaky on January 22, 2014, 11:39:44 AM
Not sure guys. I think I'm done.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/25113883-418/wrigley-field-deal-fell-apart-at-stormy-session-with-cubs-rooftop-owners.html



I haven't followed all this very closely, but I guess I have never understood why rooftop owners feel they have the right to a clear view inside Wrigley Field.

Who owns the view is a big legal question.

I understand that it's a complicated legal issue. But from a common-sense perspective, I don't think the rooftops owners deserve anything. Again, just me.

I would very much like to see someone raze their fucking buildings overnight. I don't care who is inside. the Cubs follow through on their threats to move somewhere else.

Seeing that hag cow Beth Murphy and her merry band of self-righteous freeloaders choking on their own vomit would make my year'd.
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